1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: From the Daily Os. I'm Billy fitz Simon's and this 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,039 Speaker 1: is no silly questions. It's time for another Thursday Explainer 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: with tda's explainer in Chief, our political journalist Tom Crowley. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Hey Tom, Hi, Billy explainer in Chief. I feel like 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: you give me a new, completely ridiculous and very much 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: untrue title every week. None of those are my actual 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: job title. I think I'm just a journalist, but I 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: enjoyed their creativity. 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. It's my mission for myself every week to 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: give you a new title. Now. Listeners might not know, 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: but the election could literally be called by Prime Minister 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: Scott Morrison at any second now, and we're definitely expecting 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: it to be called anytime in the next week. So 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: today we thought it would be apt to look at 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: how do elections actually work? So Tom, I think I 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: should put you under the time pressure like we did 17 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: last week. So in sixty seconds, can you just explain 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: how the federal election actually does work. 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: I can give it a go. This is going to 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: be a tough one. In sixty seconds. I don't know 21 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: if we're actually sort of formally timing this or if 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: I have a clock that I have to look at 23 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: us absolutely as I can, all right. The first thing 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: to say is we don't vote for the prime minister, 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: and we don't vote for who the government is. What 26 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: we do vote for is people to represent us. And 27 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: there's two types. People who represent us in our neighborhood 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: and people who represent the state or territory we live in. 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: Our vote indirectly effects who the PM will be and 30 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: who the government will be. But our job is just 31 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: to pick our representatives. I'll start with the neighborhoods. The 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: formal term for them is electorates. The country is split 33 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: up into one hundred and fifty one electorates, and each 34 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: one has one seat in the House of Representatives. And 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: those one hundred and fifty one people, they're the ones 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: who decide who the government is and who the Prime 37 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: minister is. Whoever controls those one hundred and fifty one 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: seats forms the government. That's their job. Our job is 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: just to pick our one representative, and the way that 40 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: we do that is by ranking all the candidates for 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 2: our electorate in order of preference. Whoever has the most votes. 42 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: Once our preferences are tealied up, the winner. Now to 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: the other type of representative, the ones for our state 44 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: and our territory. They go in the Senate. The territories 45 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: have two senators each. The states have twelve, but in 46 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: each election we only pick six. Now, the Senate doesn't 47 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: affect two forms government or who the prime Minister is, 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: but it can make their lives easy or difficult. So 49 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: it is important. Now, picking six people for a whole 50 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: state is a complicated business, and the voting process is 51 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: a little bit more complicated, but we'll get into that later. 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: Bel because I think my minute is up. 53 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: There was a lot you packed into that. Let's unpack it. 54 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: So let's start with these local representatives for the House 55 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: of Reps. Now, if all of it is just one 56 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one local representatives getting together to decide 57 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: the government, can you explain how we always end up 58 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: with labor or the coalition? Like, where do those parties 59 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: come from? 60 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really good question, And I think the 61 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: first place to start is that the parties actually don't 62 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: have to be there at all. So there's no law. 63 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: There's nowhere in the constitution does it say that there 64 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: have to be political parties. They don't really have an 65 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: official role. They just sort of come into being, I 66 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: guess almost sort of naturally. And in most governments around 67 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: the world, in parliament based systems, parties tend to evolve 68 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: really naturally. And I suppose, like I mean, maybe I'll 69 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: put it this way. You know, you can imagine if 70 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: we just had our one hundred and fifty one local 71 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: representatives and they were all independents, and they all just 72 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: have to kind of sit in a room, and as 73 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: I say, you know, the rule is, if you can 74 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: control a majority of the seats, if you can band 75 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: together with the majority of those one hundred and fifty one, 76 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: you get to be in government. You get to be 77 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: the prime minister. Now, maybe those one hundred and fifty 78 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: one could sort of sit in a room together as 79 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: a bunch of independents and find a way through that. 80 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: Maybe that might work well. But what tends to happen 81 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: more commonly, sort of over time in political systems is 82 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: that people bond together with people who have a common interest. 83 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: So we talked on the podcast before about left and 84 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: right and these kind of different sets of values that 85 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: exist in politics. It kind of makes sense if you 86 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: see other people you know in politics who share your 87 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: values to sort of bond together and to work as 88 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: a team, and I guess to be more powerful as 89 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: a result. And so I think that's why sort of 90 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: parties naturally come into being. But they don't have to be, 91 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: you know, any particular party. So the fact that we 92 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: have Labor and the Liberal parties wasn't always that way. 93 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: There are some different parties that have been in government 94 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: over the course of Australian history. These are the ones 95 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: we have now. But yeah, I suppose that they're kind 96 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: of like a natural consequence where the local representatives tend 97 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: to kind of you know, band together join political parties. 98 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: The parties are more organized, they have more resources, and 99 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: that's kind of you know, where it comes from. And 100 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: so what we end up talking about in the election 101 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: is not you know, who are these one hundred and 102 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: fifty one people going to be? We end up having 103 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: this conversation about which one of the big parties is 104 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: going to get to the finish line, which one is 105 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: going to get to this majority of seventy six seats. 106 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: That's the way that it tends to shake out in practice. 107 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: That's why we spend so much time talking about the parties. 108 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: I think we could devote a whole podcast episode to 109 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: the parties, and we may do that at some point. 110 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: I guess it doesn't have to be that way. And 111 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: what you should think about your task is picking just 112 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: one person who you think will be a good represent 113 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: entitive for your local area, whether they happen to belong 114 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: to a party or not. 115 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: And you mentioned in that sixty second overview before that 116 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: the way we vote for these representatives is via a 117 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: preferential system. Can you explain what a preferential system actually is? Yep. 118 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: So there are lots of ins and outs of the 119 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: preference system. I won't get into all the detail. The 120 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: really simplest thing to know is that your job is 121 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: to put all of the people who are running to 122 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: be your local representative in order. It's not just about 123 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: picking who you want to vote for. I think that's 124 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: sometimes the way we talk about it, like I'm a 125 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: labor voter, I'm a Greens voter, I'm a Liberal voter, 126 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: I'm a Nationals voter. But it's not just about who 127 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: you put number one. It's about the whole ranking, because 128 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: what ends up happening in the count is you sort 129 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: of slowly eliminate the basically the bottom of the ladder 130 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: until you end up with only two left, and everybody's 131 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: preferences end up getting kind of redistributed to one of 132 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: the top two. So suppose you vote for somebody who's 133 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: not very popular and they get knocked out in the 134 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: first round, then it's whoever you've got laider down your 135 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: preference shed it's whoever you put second and third and 136 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: fourth that your vote might end up going to. So 137 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: that order really matters as well. And your job in 138 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: the House of Reps is not just to think about 139 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: who's the one person I want to be my representative. 140 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: It's to look at the full list and decide, in 141 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: order of preference, from first to last, who do you 142 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: want to represent to you, And those preferences can make 143 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: a really big difference in deciding who your local representative is. 144 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get to the Senate because it kind 145 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: of is like we have two elections in one one 146 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: for the House of Representatives, which he just went through 147 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: tom and one for the Senate. But what happens in 148 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 1: the vote for the Senate doesn't determine who forms the government. 149 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: The House of Representatives vote does, so why is the 150 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: Senate important? 151 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Senate's a bit of a funny one. I 152 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: think the Senate can be a little bit of an 153 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: after thought for people sometimes, and it's not as glamorous 154 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: as we've said. The House of Representatives is really where 155 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: the big stuff happens, what everyone cares about on election night, 156 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: who's the government going to be, who's the Prime Minister 157 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: going to be? The Senate doesn't really have any say 158 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: in that, but the Senate does matter a whole lot. 159 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: We'll devote a whole podcast episode, i think, to explaining 160 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: in more detail what these two houses actually do day 161 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: to day outside of an election, but for now, suffice 162 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: to say, the Senate can make life really difficult or 163 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: really easy for the government. So if the government has 164 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: control of the Senate as well, they get to basically 165 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: always do whatever they want in terms of passing laws 166 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: because they have that support in both houses. But if 167 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: they don't can be really tricky. They've got to work 168 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: with a whole bunch of other people to get things done. 169 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: So the Senate does matter. And one of the other 170 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: things that interests us about the Senate is because we're 171 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: picking more than one person at once, right, So in 172 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: our local seat, we're picking just one representative in the Senate. 173 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: If you live in a state, you're picking six because 174 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: we're picking like a top six. It's the kind of 175 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: system that naturally favors the smaller parties a little bit more. 176 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: And the Senate is the sort of place where where 177 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: minor parties, sometimes some very very minor parties, and random 178 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: independents can find their way into the Senate. And so 179 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: it's probably the place where the major parties have the 180 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: least told and it's a place where voting for smaller 181 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: hand that it can make a difference, and the makeup 182 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: of the Senate can be a little bit more colorful, 183 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: I guess, And so there are lots of interesting things 184 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: that happen in the Senate. It's certainly, you know, not 185 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: less important than the House of Representatives. It's a very 186 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: important part of your job on election day. 187 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: And so in the House of Representatives we have the 188 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: preferential voting system. How do we vote in the Senate 189 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: and how does the top six get picked. 190 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: It's a complicated system in the Senate, and not one 191 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: really that's worth explaining in all of its detail. The 192 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: basic principle is the same in terms of what your 193 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: job is your job is still to go into the room. 194 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: You'll see a whole bunch of different people who are 195 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: running for the Senate in your state or territory, and 196 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: your job is to put them in order. You can 197 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: either do it by party or by person. You've got 198 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: a number either six parties or twelve people, and that's 199 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: kind of hand off. That's your job there. But in 200 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: terms of the process of how those senators actually get decided, 201 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: whereas the House of Reps is this kind of it's 202 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: almost like a game show where the weakest link kind 203 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: of keeps getting eliminated until you're left with the top two. 204 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: The Senate kind of works in the other direction. So 205 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: if you get a lot of votes, you sort of 206 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: get into sort of the top spot, of the second spot, 207 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: of the third spot, but it ends up being kind 208 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 2: of like a fight for these last couple of positions, 209 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: and so you know you've got to pick this top six. 210 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: Sometimes by the time you're getting down to the sixth spot, 211 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: you've already got the big parties have already got their 212 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: spots in the Senate, and the fights down between a 213 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: bunch of people who didn't get that many votes. But 214 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: the preferences are kind of flowing around until somebody gets 215 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: enough votes to kind of get what we call a 216 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: quota to get them into the system. I've done a 217 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: very very quick job of explaining that, and I've left 218 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: out a lot of detail. The best way to think 219 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: about it is because you're picking a large number of 220 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: senators at once, and because the biggest ones sort of 221 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: get secure their positions first spot number one, spot number two, 222 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: spot number three, the race for kind of spot number 223 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: five and spot number six can be a little bit 224 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: more tight, and you can end up getting people who 225 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: have sort of a smaller amount of support. And so 226 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: that's where you know, kind of voting for minor parties, 227 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: voting for independence can make a big difference in the Senate, 228 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: and you can end up with a slightly more colorful composition. 229 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: And just finally, I know I have friends who are 230 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: kind of cynical about the impact of the vote. Can 231 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: you explain why our votes do matter? 232 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: I can, so it does. I mean, of course I'm 233 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: going to say that, but you know your vote does matter. 234 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: No entire seats can be decided have been decided by 235 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: just a few votes, So I guess you never know 236 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: how important your vote is. Going to be both in 237 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: the House of Reps and the Senate. These races can 238 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: end up being really tight. You can get recounts, you 239 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: can get individual votes being challenged. You know, it can 240 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 2: get really down to the wire. 241 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: Well safe to say that every vote counts even if 242 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: you are in a safe seat. 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