1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: We have got so many messages coming through on the 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: text line. I am going to get to those very shortly. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: But joining me live in the studio right now is 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: the Lord Mayor of. 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: Darwin convat Scarlets. 6 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 3: Good morning Conn, Good morning Kat, And I'm not surprised 7 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: you got so many messages. The situation was said Venice 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 3: and steer Park has been going on for god since 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 3: I was working for the health Department. I'm talking about 10 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety five. A lot of people complaining about it 11 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: because unfortunately Vinnie started to do the right thing. The 12 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: problem is they attract the wrong people. Not all of them, 13 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 3: I have to say, some of them are really genuine homeless. 14 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: Some of the others are homeless by choice because they 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: decide to come here and they run out of money 16 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: for verious viasons which we know very well where the 17 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: money go, and they turn up in the morning and 18 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: at night for food and look. I praise venues that 19 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: do a good job, probably they do it in the 20 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: wrong place. And I say that if you're going to 21 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: help the homeless people and the people that need you 22 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: can't have a facility about fifty minutes from a liquor store. 23 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: Well, and so they're looking to move from Stuart Hard 24 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: to Coconut Growth. The people of Coconut Grove are pretty 25 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: wild about it. 26 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: They don't they do it that one because they own 27 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: the property. The problem I've got is when a few 28 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: months ago I suggested that Gualadela Niki created such a 29 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: place where they can look after their own people. The 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: argument from the government side was, oh, we can't do that. 31 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: One's close to a liquor store. Willis Well, where vin 32 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: is proposed to go is working distance from Vini. So 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: I prays for what they're doing. But I urged them 34 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: to console with the community and find out is this 35 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: the right place. I know they want to go somewhere 36 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: in Karama, and the local Councilsiviclinaga King and then local 37 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: member objected to it, and I agree with them. 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: Look, the thing is they have to That's the thing 39 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: like people actually don't want those services in their backyard 40 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: because whether people want to sort of whether you know, 41 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: whether people want to acknowledge it or not, there does 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: come with it an element of anti social behavior. Right. 43 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: My suggestion always been find a place where you can 44 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: actually do something good and get all the services get 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: settled in a Health Department, Danila, Dilba not to be 46 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: a comprehension place where people can be fed, but they 47 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: be looked after. Wait, there's some places actually can do 48 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: it far away from the from the city, because you 49 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: want to take these people away from temptation, like areas 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: a lot of land past a very much road and 51 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 3: they can have a public unswer to bring them in 52 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: and take them out. You know, these people are very 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 3: very good find out they have the way to move around. 54 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: But again, you don't want to make enemies. You want 55 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: actually take people with you. The moment you actually serve 56 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: it down their throat, they're going to react. 57 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly right, and it look it does seem 58 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: like that is what is happening now. So veneas have saent. 59 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: It's a really extensive statement. I'll read the rest of 60 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: that out throughout the morning. But at this point in time, 61 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: people are really very upset about the posts. 62 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: If somebody wants to put something like that next to 63 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 3: your house. Coconut grove is a small area. Yes, it's 64 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: got this problem in some areas. I used to leave 65 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: the first claus I was it was a nation crescent 66 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: very close to Bakita crop I'll be objecting because they say, oh, 67 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: we're going to bring all these people in, Well, hold on, 68 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: what about the neighbors they have to put up with 69 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: all these things? If you thought about it, I think 70 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: that needs more thinking and garment has to come to 71 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: the party. They can't expect things to be done by 72 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: one organization. 73 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Well, look, I've already got messages saying no, do not, 74 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't want it out in the rural area. People 75 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: saying they don't want those services out in the rural area. 76 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: Look the rural area. Of course, again it depends where 77 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: you're putting. You don't have to put in the rural area. 78 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: There's plenty of crown land out there you can actually 79 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: put it. You don't have to put among people that 80 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: actually they do their everyday life. There are plenty. We're 81 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: a huge country, we're a huge territory. We're a huge 82 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: area outside very much road. They're quite an extensive land 83 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: that you can actually look at the prison there. We've 84 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: got now a new facility for youth offenders. There must 85 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: be a place to put a thousand squamas facility. 86 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Con I want to ask you about these cruise ships. 87 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: We had a heap of them apparently, or a couple 88 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: of them. 89 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: Yesterday. 90 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: Lots of people very happy that these cruise ships are 91 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: in town. Talk us through how many we've gotten, just 92 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: how busy it's been. 93 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: I have no idea how many we get. I believe 94 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: we're going to get about one hundred. The cool thing 95 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 3: is when I'm going down to the city to the 96 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: mall and I'm talking to the retailers, and tell me 97 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: when the cruise ships are here, they're celebrating because they 98 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: are people coming out of the cruise ships. They're buying 99 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 3: things from pearls to jewelry to Aboriginal art. It's really 100 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: really good. But I love very much the comments, Oh 101 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: it's so hot, so humid, welcome to our heaven. Come on, 102 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: this is dowwy. But the funny thing is, I bet 103 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 3: you these people who actually know we're in Singapore and 104 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: they never complain about the humidity because they were on holidays. 105 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, well and look we you know yesterday I actually 106 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: thought to myself, oh was. 107 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: It feeling slightly dry? Safely, I say, there was a 108 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: bit of a braze, but not quise. 109 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: I was in Camber for a started Local Gun Association 110 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: meeting and Canberra was thirty four degrees in humid. I 111 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: thought I was in dow w and they built up. 112 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: I could not believe it. 113 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: Now, con tell me where are things that with like Alexandra, 114 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: is it still closed? 115 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: Yes? 116 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: This unfortunately bacteria is still high up. We're testing every 117 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: two days and certainly we change the water and everything else. 118 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 3: But again we had a very interesting wet. We had 119 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 3: a lot of water running into the lake bringing with 120 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: it all the bacteria. It's an archer phenomenon. It would 121 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: take a while. We can't do much about it, which 122 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: is monitoring, and we let you know as soon as possible. 123 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Can't tell me clean up Australia, die, we know that 124 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: it happened with the council involved. 125 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: How'd it go? Or is every day? Clean up? 126 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: Down? 127 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: And die? 128 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: I was going to say, clean clean up Australia is 129 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: every day And thank god we have the people. They're 130 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 3: helping very much. And I think every little bit helps. 131 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 3: From not throwing things on the on the street when 132 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: you have a cool drink, putting the problem rubbish bin. 133 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: If uses something really on your walk, take it and 134 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: put in the bin. Doesn't take much. And I'll tell 135 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: you what's a little bit of effort goes a long way. 136 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: Our crew helps out, Our crew helps and takes things 137 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: to the rabbit ship where we throw them away. But 138 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: again I said you before clean Up Australia Day is 139 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: for us every day, Corne. 140 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: It has been an incredibly busy week. 141 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: We are just getting some further detail from the Northern 142 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: Territory Police about incidents from yesterday. 143 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: You know, we had a situation. 144 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: I spoke about it about myself being confronted by a 145 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: group of views yesterday. I'm trying to snatch my phone. 146 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm apparently amongst a long long list of people that 147 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: were targeted by the look of things the crime series 148 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: around our CBD. I mean, you, as the mayor of Darwin, 149 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 1: must be absolutely over. 150 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: I will just tell you what Marian Scrimjaw. You know, 151 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 3: Marian very well labor politician, remember for what it Springs 152 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: stated part in the newspaper just a week ago, but 153 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: the mainstream media ignored it. She said, don't think these 154 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 3: little kids are little angels. 155 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: No, I ran it on the show, so definitely the. 156 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: Mayor of Dawood, as the Mayor of Catherine asked Matt 157 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 3: pats Or, the mayor of Valley Springs, which just had enough. 158 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: I have to say that one, I think the opposition 159 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: is right. And my hate is that I love kids, 160 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: but these little kids, they're not little angels. There's something 161 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: serious and dropping the you know, taking the age of 162 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: criminal responsibility to what it's now, I think it was 163 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: a wrong move. These things now they've got the things, 164 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: they've got immunity. Well, we live in a society. There's 165 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: so many information. A ten year old kid can operate 166 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: a mobile phones better than me. He can actually operate 167 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: a table better than me. They get all this information. 168 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: Don't tell me that a ten year old kid does 169 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: know what's right or wrong. And if they don't know 170 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: what's wrong, why do they cover their face when the commuter. 171 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: CROs Do we need to go back to re riising 172 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: the age of criminal responsibility? 173 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: I think we should. And the other thing I believe 174 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: is that actually the way we treat these kids is wrong. 175 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: They haven't got family, so we have to actually put 176 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: a family in place for them. And I said before, 177 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: Dawn Dale is a place where people learn to become criminals, 178 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: hardcore criminals. Let's walk away from them. Let's just take 179 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: these kids and put them in a proper place. Where 180 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: they can get some schooling. Most of these kids can't 181 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: readly write their name. Most of these kids can't do anything. 182 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: Let's get them somewhere in a place where they get told. 183 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: They can be told they have to serve a sentence, 184 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: but they have to serve centers. But by going to 185 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: a class, reading a rite, and if they're a higher 186 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: age learning a trade and not in don Dale somewhere else, 187 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: that they actually got to be a little bit tough 188 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: to toughen them up and teach them that crime doesn't pay, 189 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: but be a proper deeds and read and writing can't pay. 190 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: Table have had an absolute of God. 191 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: I've been a plebel politica for a long time. You 192 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: know that very well. Everybody knows very well. But I'm 193 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: sorry this gun got it wrong. Listening to people in Melbourne, 194 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: they have no idea about what's happening here. This kid's 195 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 3: been abundant. I mean, I feel sorry for these kids. 196 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: Families don't care, or we take them home to a 197 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: responsible adult. If that kid is two o'clock in the morning, 198 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: is out in the street, who is the responsible adult 199 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: in his house? There is no one? 200 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is the thing. 201 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Connor it's a pretty big call for you 202 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: to say that, Yeah, they should actually reraise the age 203 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: of criminal responsibility. 204 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: But you know a lot of people are I'm. 205 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: Saying, put them in a place where they can be saved, 206 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 3: they can be fed, they can be housed, they have clothing, 207 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: and eight o'clock, eight third in the morning they go 208 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 3: to a class and learn to read and write, or 209 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: eight third in the morning they go to a workshop 210 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: where they learn to do things. Okay, instead of actually 211 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: learning how to break into houses, learn how to fix cars, 212 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: or learn how to fix engines. 213 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: Corn I always appreciate your time. Thank you so much 214 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: for joining us in the studio this morning. 215 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: I'm not going to be popular with some people, but 216 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: unfortunately I think we've gone too far trying to be 217 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: kind to people that are not little angels. As Maryon said, well, 218 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 3: that's right. 219 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: Contact Scolus. Thank you so much, Teton. 220 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: This moke