Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms Flex and Firms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh everybody, No, I'm scared. Who is Cleo nor Cleo?
Speaker 3: Phoebe Tonkin?
Speaker 1: Oh from H two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out Jamie Timini who was in the show
Speaker 2: Friend of Mine Mossy listeners to music anyway?
Speaker 1: Was that a tangent?
Speaker 3: Keep it tied?
Speaker 4: Anyway?
Speaker 3: So what show was that? And my friend?
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, we're gonna be talking about the end of
Speaker 2: the world. I was just trying to like bring the
Speaker 2: energy up because you're about to shoot it down out
Speaker 2: of the skygirl.
Speaker 1: Here's the body he flex and Firms Flexen fromes.
Speaker 4: Cater Never miss a Beat.
Speaker 3: I said.
Speaker 4: One of my twenty twenty three outs was respectability politics,
Speaker 4: and that's you know, a lot of us find us
Speaker 4: shackled by the idea that we have to say things
Speaker 4: in the right way to be heard or the polite way,
Speaker 4: and I'm just over it.
Speaker 3: This year.
Speaker 4: I'm getting really annoyed because I feel like we've spent
Speaker 4: the last five years learning how to critically critically think
Speaker 4: like unpacked staff become smarter, and yet we keep asking
Speaker 4: ourselves really silly questions or ones that don't need this
Speaker 4: much thought at all. This Am I the asshole in particular?
Speaker 4: No shade to the author, but I just feel like,
Speaker 4: is this what we need to be thinking about on a.
Speaker 1: Day to day and yet you're hooked?
Speaker 3: You're here. I am the problem. I am what do
Speaker 3: you call it a problem?
Speaker 4: Am I the asshole for buying a gift card as
Speaker 4: a birthday gift? Off the top woft? No, no, we'll see.
Speaker 4: So am I the asshole for buying my mother in
Speaker 4: law a gift card for her birthday? It was a
Speaker 4: marvelous night, lots of fun until she opened my present
Speaker 4: and everyone stared at me with effing, flaming daggers. Mother
Speaker 4: in law had no issue at all, or she's a
Speaker 4: very talented actress using her best smile. My significant other
Speaker 4: significant other thinks I'm the asshole because I'm supposed to
Speaker 4: give someone an actual gift on their birthday, which I
Speaker 4: did a Nike gift card for seventy five dollars to
Speaker 4: buy workout clothes from her favorite brand. I feel I'm
Speaker 4: not the asshole for the simple fact that my gift
Speaker 4: had thought and value. Meanwhile, there were some very heavy
Speaker 4: hitting gifts jewelry expensive shoes, Bloomingdale clothes, et cetera. And
Speaker 4: I can't even afford more than seventy five dollars without
Speaker 4: breaking Christmas budget or you know, paying my rent. Am
Speaker 4: I the crazy one here?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 4: I know I'm already conflicted about the situation. I felt
Speaker 4: bad enough that the rest of the night I hit
Speaker 4: in the bathroom.
Speaker 3: Because of the food.
Speaker 1: It was not the food that is the real issue.
Speaker 3: It was not the food.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: That one is a little bit more complex because gifting culture,
Speaker 4: much like tipping culture, a lot of unspoken rules and
Speaker 4: not a lot of like middle ground at all. Do
Speaker 4: not say too much, missus, and not.
Speaker 2: This is just a horrible, horrible situation on behalf of
Speaker 2: everybody but this woman first and foremost. Am I ever
Speaker 2: going to be getting my mother in law's seventy five
Speaker 2: dollars gift card?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Sorry, gift full stop? Absolutely not, oh never.
Speaker 2: I think there's either under fifty or if it's like
Speaker 2: the first birthday with your partner or like your parents,
Speaker 2: you do in the upper one hundreds. Okay, seventy five
Speaker 2: is the weirdest amount, so.
Speaker 3: It's the number amount that's really got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has seventy five dollars, Like, how did you
Speaker 2: think about it? You may as well just have done
Speaker 2: like sixty two or something. I will say it's very thoughtful.
Speaker 2: Nike is her favorite brand, and sports where is something
Speaker 2: that's very particular. I don't want someone going out and
Speaker 2: buying me a pair of short It's like a very
Speaker 2: specific type. I personally have nothing against gift cards.
Speaker 4: Who started anti gift card propaganda because I think a
Speaker 4: few people have Number one, overestimated their importance to assume
Speaker 4: that I have enough time, space and energy to go
Speaker 4: out and find you a physical gift. When you can
Speaker 4: do that in your own time, it's your gift. ME
Speaker 4: providing the resources for you to get exactly what you
Speaker 4: want feels like the most thoughtful thing to do.
Speaker 2: Now as an adult, I realize why people think that
Speaker 2: it's rude to get gift cards, because I understand how
Speaker 2: hard it is to make time to get gifts. If
Speaker 2: that makes sense. Yes, I used to never think it was.
Speaker 2: I didn't think there was anything difference between going out
Speaker 2: and getting a gift card and buying something in terms
Speaker 2: of like the labor, I will.
Speaker 4: Say there is a difference, like if there's anyone in
Speaker 4: my life who's important enough to me that warrants a
Speaker 4: gift or expects a gift. I will do the due
Speaker 4: diligence and go out and get them a gift, right,
Speaker 4: But a mother in law is a very specific niche
Speaker 4: of gift giving, Like I don't really know you like
Speaker 4: that I might know.
Speaker 3: Of you, so I feel like a gift. But to be.
Speaker 4: Honest, I would go to like six No six, a
Speaker 4: dip teek candle and call it a day.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the hand crem not the hand crem
Speaker 2: pack from where just a body shop number.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're not we're not doctor.
Speaker 3: That's built different, different, and that's okay.
Speaker 2: Mother in law is specifically with the awkwardest. Actually, a
Speaker 2: father in law might be awkward as well.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm not getting him a gift.
Speaker 2: I got my ex's sister A we're doing siblings. It
Speaker 2: was yeah, I was like meant to go up and
Speaker 2: see it. We ended up like breaking up, but I
Speaker 2: already got in the present.
Speaker 1: But then we bring it up.
Speaker 2: But I gotta like a Mason Balzac, like the carafe
Speaker 2: and the class moment before it was very popular, mind you, okay,
Speaker 2: just saying taste maker so yeah, but never met her
Speaker 2: actually either, So just be.
Speaker 1: Careful you were doing too much. I was doing a lot,
Speaker 1: that's okay, that's okay. I went out in Style Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms, they're the best.
Speaker 3: What a duo.
Speaker 2: Flex is looking at me very alarm because I've just
Speaker 2: tried to stuff a piece of paper back in my.
Speaker 4: Fold, just that we are on borrow time right now,
Speaker 4: like there's so much to do today, so little time,
Speaker 4: and the one time for me decides to open our
Speaker 4: clipboards that Brooks so lovingly creates for us with all
Speaker 4: of our notes. She's like fussing about trying to like
Speaker 4: stuff it in neatly. It's not the time, babe, It's
Speaker 4: not the time. It is the time, however, to talk
Speaker 4: about your transformation.
Speaker 2: Yes, my shift, my metamorphosis. As you know, I'm a
Speaker 2: blonde head girl. Maybe you don't know that if you're
Speaker 2: just listening on the radio. But I've been blonde for
Speaker 2: fifteen years, okay. My shift from a dark brunette into
Speaker 2: a light peroxide blonde started when I was in year
Speaker 2: six got my first highlights, or maybe year seven, one
Speaker 2: of those years. It actually began. A friend of mine's
Speaker 2: mum was a hairdresser and I went over there and
Speaker 2: she died it red and like remember when we were
Speaker 2: really younger, there was like you'd cut all the top
Speaker 2: of it so it was spiky.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it was one of those numbers kind of
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It looked horrible on me, shocking, one of my worst
Speaker 1: looks ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not big enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a bit chicken vibes with that really
Speaker 2: francy chicken. Anyway, I died at brown on a whim.
Speaker 1: The other day.
Speaker 2: My hair had started breaking off ferociously from the bleach.
Speaker 2: It finally said no more, and so I've gone back
Speaker 2: to my original color, which is dark brown.
Speaker 3: Initial thoughtslex phenomenal. I actually saw a soft launch.
Speaker 4: I don't think you intended it to be released to
Speaker 4: the public, you know, unbeknownst to you, without your consent.
Speaker 4: But I did see a story on a mutual friend's page,
Speaker 4: not hard launching the color change. But you were padding
Speaker 4: a dog at a cafe and I said, hold on,
Speaker 4: hold on, and then you did a hard launch on
Speaker 4: the feet and I was saying, it makes you look
Speaker 4: so luminous. But I don't know you as a brunette.
Speaker 4: And so it's really bizarre. But the reason why I
Speaker 4: asked if you're going to talk about it is because
Speaker 4: about two years ago I discovered that there was law
Speaker 4: and you know, a bit of controversy in the Caucasian
Speaker 4: community about hair color. One would say, a social hierarchy.
Speaker 4: I didn't think it was that deep, right. I think
Speaker 4: I made an offhand remark about how you know, if
Speaker 4: you were born blonde and then you get to the
Speaker 4: age thirteen and your hair is brunette, then you are
Speaker 4: a brunette, right, And everyone's like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: you do have to specify that you were a blonde
Speaker 4: now and I and there's all different types of blondes.
Speaker 4: And I think my I didn't intend for it to
Speaker 4: be flipping because I didn't understand the layers there were
Speaker 4: to it. And so to go from a peroxide blonde
Speaker 4: like the level that you were at, the blondest of
Speaker 4: the blonde, to go straight dark on a whim, not
Speaker 4: even ash blonde, honey, blonde, caramel dark, I said.
Speaker 3: Is everything well? Is everything well? In your heart?
Speaker 1: You know what it's that I was unwell?
Speaker 2: I was always a dark brown brunette girl. And me
Speaker 2: becoming blond was because I wanted to jump up the hierarchy.
Speaker 2: I'm a social climber. What can I say? And I
Speaker 2: just one more time, and I'm a social climber. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not going.
Speaker 3: To be Can I just get that on video? If
Speaker 3: we could just really quickly one more time?
Speaker 2: No, I've been put on the spot. I'm not a
Speaker 2: social climber.
Speaker 1: No I am.
Speaker 2: I have social climbing tendencies, as does everybody in this society.
Speaker 1: I think it's only fair to have social climbing tendency.
Speaker 3: He's a social boulderer.
Speaker 1: Up against it.
Speaker 2: But I say this all to say going off blonde, like,
Speaker 2: to me, blonde was like my edge. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm Paula Yates, I'm Jessica Rowe, I'm all these things.
Speaker 2: I'm different, and so to be brown to me is
Speaker 2: to be basic and to be not looked at. But
Speaker 2: I think for me, you're right, it's deeper for some people.
Speaker 4: I think for a lot of people, hair generally is deep.
Speaker 4: I don't care what anybody says. Hair is deep, but
Speaker 4: it's good to understand what your personal relationship towards your
Speaker 4: hair is.
Speaker 2: My relationship was like I'm either going to have a
Speaker 2: shaved head or I'm going to be blonde because I
Speaker 2: wanted to be edgy and different. But now as I'm
Speaker 2: getting older, I'm kind of like I want to get
Speaker 2: used to not having to look a certain way.
Speaker 1: And it's not in the defeatist capacity.
Speaker 2: It's more like I want to be okay with not
Speaker 2: having my appearance define how cool I am. If that
Speaker 2: makes sense, that's huge, and I think I only got
Speaker 2: here through starting to like who I am. As crazy
Speaker 2: as that's but yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: All very personal.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about my hair, actually feel good about it,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to grow it out long. So I'm
Speaker 2: going to be one hundred percent basic, the basic of
Speaker 2: the basic, and I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: No offense to brunettes have long hair, but.
Speaker 4: Sorry Brooke, our producer, I'm going to be quickly looking
Speaker 4: at the corner, like where do I go.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have no personality.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna shine anymore, but I'm gonna be happy
Speaker 4: with it like the rest of you.
Speaker 1: Damn it'd be like that. Well that's me.
Speaker 2: So if you're seeing the videos next week of us
Speaker 2: on cater and you see brunette don't think the Friomi
Speaker 2: is gone. I'm just in a new case cater.
Speaker 1: Flex and fromes.
Speaker 3: You're listening to flex and frooms.
Speaker 1: What the frick flex you?
Speaker 2: I've got to listen to Submission. It's from a woman
Speaker 2: who will not be named. Thank you for protecting her
Speaker 2: bad Hi Freemi, hope you will for the show. Can
Speaker 2: we discuss the intricacies and complexities when it comes to
Speaker 2: mother daughter relationships? Spicy, I feel like you're either extremely
Speaker 2: close to your mum, talk every day, et cetera, or
Speaker 2: your relationship is incredibly strained and distant personally on the ladder, Babe,
Speaker 2: my mum is still pierced off at me about not
Speaker 2: making entire speech dedicated to her at my twenty first
Speaker 2: Oh now I'm thirty and it's been years of us
Speaker 2: going through stages, a semi connection.
Speaker 1: And complete strangers.
Speaker 3: Why are you love, babe?
Speaker 2: So the twenty first year maggot love mom.
Speaker 3: I just want to thank you for pushing me through
Speaker 3: your birds and yeah.
Speaker 1: Birth pain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, yeah, that doesn't happen, babes.
Speaker 1: It really doesn't.
Speaker 4: And I will say because we've been very much impacted
Speaker 4: by the patriarchy, conversational daddy issues are very like, very commonplace.
Speaker 4: You say daddy issues, Everyone's like, yeah, we know exactly
Speaker 4: what this means. The complexities of it for all genders
Speaker 4: and non genders. We get it mummy issues, though people
Speaker 4: don't think they're as serious or they're not spoken of
Speaker 4: as much. There's no sexiness, No, it's mixing sexiness. But
Speaker 4: I also think it's complex in a way that people
Speaker 4: don't want to unpack because I don't think that it's
Speaker 4: I think it's just really easy to like frame dads
Speaker 4: as deadbeats and mom's as saints, and so when you
Speaker 4: want to contradict that narrative, it gets really confusing for people.
Speaker 3: We also watched.
Speaker 4: Everything Everywhere All at Once, and that was a really
Speaker 4: good movie about the complexities of not only mummy issues
Speaker 4: but cross continental cultural mother daughter relationship issues. What I
Speaker 4: will say is that I really do imply to people
Speaker 4: who don't have good relationships with their mum. I haven't
Speaker 4: always had a great relationship with mine because it wasn't
Speaker 4: modeled to me. I just remember observing shout out to
Speaker 4: my ex boyfriend had such a good relationship with his mom,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I like my mom this much,
Speaker 4: and I don't call her multiple times a week, I.
Speaker 3: Don't check in, I don't text her.
Speaker 4: And so I remember confessing this to my mom and
Speaker 4: her are really like, it would make my life if
Speaker 4: you just sent me a text, It would make my
Speaker 4: existence if you just told me.
Speaker 3: What you were doing.
Speaker 4: And I was like, what, that's it, and she's like,
Speaker 4: that's all I want, and I do, and let me
Speaker 4: tell you.
Speaker 3: It's like the best thing ever. I'm obsessed.
Speaker 4: What I will say though, is that like it's really
Speaker 4: it's a big task, as like a young person or
Speaker 4: as a child, as an adult to try and like
Speaker 4: heal your parents. And like, if your mom's pissed off
Speaker 4: at you for not acknowledging her at your twenty first
Speaker 4: and it's been nine years, that is a problem bigger
Speaker 4: than you can fix on your own.
Speaker 2: It's just also like, so my relationship with my mum,
Speaker 2: or my experience growing up was that mum is a saint.
Speaker 1: She does no wrong. She's never once done something to
Speaker 1: hurt me. That's big.
Speaker 2: That's like, how do you say that's unachievable? Like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if I could do that for my daughter,
Speaker 2: because I have to put myself first. Sometimes I'm not
Speaker 2: criticizing what she did, but there was like entirely selfless.
Speaker 2: But I understand as a person and my relationship with
Speaker 2: other people, sometimes you are mad at people. There'd be
Speaker 2: times when I'm piecing my mum off, you know, so
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 1: See why the mum's upset. Because everybody has these.
Speaker 3: Like nice figures.
Speaker 1: I don't know some people whole grudges.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it's tricky what I will say.
Speaker 4: It's not Karen to I just think what's happening now
Speaker 4: is you're matching each other's energy, and if you want
Speaker 4: different results, you have to try different things.
Speaker 1: It's very hard though.
Speaker 2: It's very hard dealing with someone who is emotional, who
Speaker 2: is convinced that you did something to really hurt them.
Speaker 2: This is a case where you have to just swallow
Speaker 2: your pride if.
Speaker 3: You want the relationship.
Speaker 2: I think so because something that you learn, something that
Speaker 2: I've learned with like repairing my relationship with my sister,
Speaker 2: for example, nothing in life.
Speaker 1: Is better than not beefing with somebody. Nothing. I never
Speaker 1: thought it. I never thought it bothered me.
Speaker 2: And now that we're friends, I'm like, my life is
Speaker 2: exponentially better. But I would have never thought of it
Speaker 2: because I just didn't think a relationship was on the
Speaker 2: cards for me and my sister. So if you could
Speaker 2: just put your pride to the side and just go
Speaker 2: full steam ahead trying to repair it with your mum
Speaker 2: and take your ego out of it, take your feelings
Speaker 2: out of it for the short term, then I think
Speaker 2: you will see results that will make it so you
Speaker 2: don't feel the need to message us.
Speaker 3: I'm the opposite.
Speaker 4: I think some things are too hard for you to
Speaker 4: deal with on your own, and she's not meeting you halfway,
Speaker 4: then like, act accordingly.
Speaker 1: Damn well, can let us know how you go? Girl?
Speaker 1: Flex and frims flex and frimes cater never miss a beat.
Speaker 4: I want to be honest, I want to be candid.
Speaker 4: I want to start twenty twenty three strong.
Speaker 1: Sorry interrupting. Are you ever not honest and candid?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: But I'm setting a point, you know how, Sometimes you
Speaker 4: just have to like let people know what you're doing,
Speaker 4: put context behind your behavior.
Speaker 1: So they don't get upset.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and also, I told you I have this thing
Speaker 4: where because of the tone of my voice, people think
Speaker 4: I'm being sarcastic and I'm being quite serious. This is
Speaker 4: one of those moments. We are closer to the end
Speaker 4: of the world than you think. Not a bit, not
Speaker 4: a joke, although it sounds like I'm smiling. I know
Speaker 4: I think I am smiling.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3: This is your PSA.
Speaker 4: Go commit that crime, send that text, fall in love,
Speaker 4: quit your job, maybe don't do any of these things.
Speaker 4: But yeah, the world is ending. An elits group of
Speaker 4: scientists who monitor the world for the possibility of an
Speaker 4: arm again and caused by humans, have released their annual report.
Speaker 4: So they've made.
Speaker 3: This really cute and helpful clock.
Speaker 4: It's called the doomsday clock and essentially yeah, something like goods. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And essentially, when this clock strikes to midnight visually, because
Speaker 4: you know, we're visual learners, when this clock visually strikes
Speaker 4: midnight's we know it's game over and the world has ended.
Speaker 4: So in twenty twenty, when COVID happened, we were one
Speaker 4: hundred seconds to midnight. That's very close to the end
Speaker 4: of all things.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: As of twenty twenty three, in January, the scientists have
Speaker 4: updated the clock. We are now ninety seconds to midnight.
Speaker 4: It's getting worse rapidly now, you might be wondering, how
Speaker 4: do they measure, like how close we are to the
Speaker 4: end of the world. It's a combination of like social
Speaker 4: based catastrophic events, the war in Ukraine, and also climate
Speaker 4: based catastrophic events, and there's been a lot of those
Speaker 4: happening in very quick succession, and so you might be wondering, well,
Speaker 4: what do we do with this information? I'm not sure,
Speaker 4: and I don't think the scientists know either, because, as
Speaker 4: you know, they've been chaining themselves to landmarks and trying
Speaker 4: to get our attention.
Speaker 1: Stopping on the Sydney hrbor Bridge slate Queen, doing all.
Speaker 4: They can to let us know that we are, you know,
Speaker 4: we're hitting the brink right Like it was breaking point
Speaker 4: twenty years ago when they were like, don't water your
Speaker 4: grass anymore and we were like, oh what, the.
Speaker 3: Grass needs to be green.
Speaker 4: And now we're hitting that point and like, if you
Speaker 4: don't laugh, you'll cry, And I'm trying to cry more, but.
Speaker 3: Not at work.
Speaker 4: Here is a quote though this scientist says humanity continues
Speaker 4: to face two simultaneous existential dangers, nuclear war and climate change,
Speaker 4: that are compounded by a threat multiplier, cyber enabled information
Speaker 4: warfare that undercuts society's ability ability to respond, which means
Speaker 4: that the issue is these things are happening at such
Speaker 4: intensity so quickly that we can't respond fast enough to
Speaker 4: fix it. Shout out to scientists, number one, Shout out
Speaker 4: to humanity.
Speaker 1: They're killing my vibe. To be perfectly honest.
Speaker 4: It's not great, but you know, it is information and
Speaker 4: information is power or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the end of the world is nigh, Yes,
Speaker 2: we I think it was a few months ago, mate,
Speaker 2: it was like literally almost a year ago.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: We were talking about how for a lot of people
Speaker 2: it kind of is the worst of the world right now.
Speaker 2: People who are hungry, people who are displaced by flooding xyz.
Speaker 2: So are we thinking that just the more it goes along,
Speaker 2: the more we will be impacted from where we are sitting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the conversations about the end of the
Speaker 4: world are very like Western centric because yeah, like I
Speaker 4: was saying, I mean think this would have been the
Speaker 4: last year most parts of the world. I wouldn't say
Speaker 4: most parts, but significant populations have been experiencing what we
Speaker 4: think is the worst possible case scenario in their everyday life.
Speaker 4: Extreme weather, displacement, poverty, like no access to clean water,
Speaker 4: no access to resources, no uber eats, you know, no medication,
Speaker 4: the basics, right, And so now we're getting to the
Speaker 4: point where not only is it impacting us in the West,
Speaker 4: but metropolitan places. That's where it's really messing people up there,
Speaker 4: like it shouldn't be asked because, if anything, it should
Speaker 4: be regional inland over there. And I feel like that's
Speaker 4: why these conversations always lack the urgency, because we're stuck
Speaker 4: in delusion that it shouldn't be us. Well, we're not
Speaker 4: from those places, we don't live in those places.
Speaker 3: That's not our narrative.
Speaker 4: And so because of that, I think we also struggle
Speaker 4: to prepare because I think that some of us live
Speaker 4: in this like if you prepare for it, you're acknowledging
Speaker 4: it or you are having to commit to changes that
Speaker 4: you don't want to believe are true. But then also
Speaker 4: I feel like people think it's out of their depth
Speaker 4: because what can you really do when a flood comes in?
Speaker 3: Like, what are you meant to do?
Speaker 1: So many sandbags?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I feel like, you know what happened in
Speaker 4: was it Lismo last year? Whereas like flood after flood
Speaker 4: after flood after flood after flood, and it's like, okay, cool,
Speaker 4: you could only just like live your day to day
Speaker 4: and hope that you have enough like energy to like
Speaker 4: keep living and stuff. And I also feel like the
Speaker 4: conversation about climate change has been so like highbrow, like
Speaker 4: philosophical and not practical. I it's just like, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: like the canoe tipping theory, and it's like, babes, listen
Speaker 4: to what that theory is, Like have you.
Speaker 2: Heard of it that like one day it like it
Speaker 2: rocks and rocks and rocks and one day just capsizes.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: So people often people often feel that the impacts of
Speaker 4: climate change will be like a slow burn or like
Speaker 4: it'll build sequentially, like you know, this will happen here,
Speaker 4: and then this will happen here, and then the temperature
Speaker 4: will raise zero point five degrees and this, like you know,
Speaker 4: we'll have time to adjust it every age, when realistically, no,
Speaker 4: it's going to be really extreme events and all of
Speaker 4: a sudden it's like, yeah, there it is.
Speaker 1: I kind of liken it to aging.
Speaker 2: So you know, when you're really young, you just think
Speaker 2: it's going to be this and then this and this,
Speaker 2: when in actuality the older you get the faster time goes,
Speaker 2: like scientifically, Yeah, you know, when you're one, your whole
Speaker 2: life is one, so it feels really long. And then
Speaker 2: when you're two you've got it dart and then by
Speaker 2: the time you're fifty, a whole year is in comparison
Speaker 2: to the other forty nine years. I do think though,
Speaker 2: it is a slow burn.
Speaker 4: I mean time is relative, right, like it's a slow burn,
Speaker 4: like from the dinosaurs to now, because yeah, it's been
Speaker 4: kind of slow or has it been like the last
Speaker 4: couple of.
Speaker 3: Years where every Christmas is raining? You know what I
Speaker 3: mean saying yes, that's the real impacts. No, I've had enough.
Speaker 4: What I will say though, I do like your point
Speaker 4: about being hopeful about it because I think for me personally,
Speaker 4: it's less about.
Speaker 3: Like what am I going to do today to make
Speaker 3: sure it doesn't.
Speaker 4: Float in Sydney and more so how can I maintain
Speaker 4: a lust for life?
Speaker 3: So I don't you know.
Speaker 2: Let's look at some things. The o'son layer is healing.
Speaker 2: I don't know how, but somehow it's healing. There's new
Speaker 2: like plastic technologies where they're gonna turn plastic around, so
Speaker 2: it's the same quality is virgin plastic.
Speaker 1: That's gonna change the game.
Speaker 2: So solar power that everybody just seeds to get there
Speaker 2: freaking fucking act together.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You start off following, Yeah, I'm on
Speaker 1: it anyway. One more thing.
Speaker 4: No, no, I just found this button in the studio.
Speaker 1: It does different.
Speaker 2: Okay, one more and oh no no no, no, no, no
Speaker 2: no no.
Speaker 1: Should we end?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Okay? Kisses everyone.
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