1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Good money. It's a Christian Colors Show podcast. 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Hey, thank you very much for downloading this. We do 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: this with our big interviews and we're doing this with 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: Ricky Gervais. Was lucky enough to catch up with Ricky 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: live from London, Live to Australia. This is the full 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: raw unedited interview for your ears if you haven't checked 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: it out yet. After Live Season two, which obviously the 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: a lot of this chat is about, is out now 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: on Netflix wherever you are in the world. It is outstanding. 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: I can't recommend it enough. For now, though. Let's crack 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: on Ricky Jervas talking life, love, mops, badminton, all of it, 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: enjoying Hello, you're right hello mate. First of all, all 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: we talk about after Live season two, I'm keen to 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: catch up and let me please let us know. How 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: are you coping in lockdown? 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: Fine? 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: I've said so many times. You never hear me complain. 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: When there's nurses doing forteen. 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: Hour shift in their house and left found its house 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: to do. It's good work. 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm I'm a writer, so I 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: can do that at home. I'm not, but I could 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: be if I wanted it. 24 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: I should be writing I'm just not so. 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: I've always got enough boothing for a nuclear winter. I'm 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: always on the couch by six pm, drinking wine and 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: watching Netflix, so that hasn't changed. Obviously, the gigs are postponed, 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: but you know what you're going to do. I reckon 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: there'd be the last things back because it's like, you know, 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: ten thousand theaters, so. 31 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: Hopefully they happen next year. So I'm good, you know. 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: And the. 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Fact that season two has gone down the storms really 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: given me a little spring in my step to start. 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: Thinking about season three. So I'm good. Driving Jane mad 36 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: because she usually gets the house to. 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Us out an office down the road where I have 38 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: meetings and work, so I'm home all the time. 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: So I've heard this quite a lot. Okay, keep quiet 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: from it. Let me just finish this sentence about maybe 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: in a minute. 42 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: It's like she's got now she's got a kid who's 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: at home, who's normally at school, but he's a fifty 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: something kid. 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's feel weird. 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Six Yeah, but you know what it's it's it's fine. 47 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: I'm getting used to it. I've never used zoom so much. 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: Oh well, that's a good thing about it. 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: As well, because like usually you have to you know, 50 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: travel to do interviews, and now I just do them 51 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: all on zoom. So I think I've done back twice 52 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: as many interviews because I'm just. 53 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: At home on the bon In my mind, You've got 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: like about twenty four different clocks on the wall with 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: all different time zones. Because as I was watching the 56 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 2: credits roll after the last episode of After I've Season two, 57 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: I see all the credits afterwards. If you let it roll, 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: you'd obviously be aware of this, but they surprise me 59 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: of it's vi actually every single one hundred and fifty 60 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: whatever it is countries in the world, Turkey, it goes 61 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: all Africa, it goes all around the world with all 62 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: the different credits, the little slide of. 63 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: It mad I mean, I translated it into undred and 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: fifty languages. 65 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: I didn't even know they were undred and fifty languages. 66 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: It's incredible. There've got one hundred and seventy million. 67 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: Subscribers around the world, so you can imagine when that 68 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: all comes out and exactly the same time, whatever your 69 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: time zone. The reaction is incredible. And I see it 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: on Twitter. I wake up and I've had like eight 71 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: hours worth of people tweeting me through the night from 72 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: all over the world. And I mean it's like the 73 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: first few days, it's like a couple of tweets every second. 74 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: It was mental and I try and read them and see, 75 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, like them all, but it's crazy. 76 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: You just can't give her. And that grows. 77 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: Because obviously the first season, it took months for everyone 78 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: who watched it to watch it. People were finding it 79 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: all the time, but those people were waiting for the 80 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: second season to come out. So it's like the year's 81 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: worth of people who watched the first season watched the 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: second in the first few days. So it's been it's 83 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: been phenomenal. But I don't I don't know. I don't 84 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: know the figures really. I know, you know, I know 85 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: it goes down well, but I don't know how many 86 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: people watch it in the India and Russia. 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: And were you worried about, obviously promoting a show which 88 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: is coming out in such an extraordinary time like Lockdown, 89 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: whether a show about grief and those kind of things 90 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: would be a buzzkill people would avoid it. 91 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't because you've got to ignore those things, because 92 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, you can you can read. 93 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: Things into anything. 94 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: Like I'll be doing a joke on tour for a 95 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: year and then something happens in the news and. 96 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: You've sort of got to acknowledge it. 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: But because people think, as you just made that joke tonight, 98 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: after that terrible thing happens, you know, but there's always 99 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: a terrible thing happening. And at least with this, people know, oh, 100 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: he must have written this and filmed it a year ago, 101 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, So people understand that. And people watch old 102 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: things and new things, and I don't think people are 103 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: watching this being reminded of the it's there, you know, 104 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: how could you forget that there's a pandemic? So I 105 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: think if anything, it's escaping them like everything else. And also, 106 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, people are tired of watching TV programs made 107 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: of zoom. 108 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: The high thing, you. 109 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: Know, lovely graining and dove and beautiful sounds great. And 110 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: also it's about things that are inside us and they're 111 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: always there. No one needs to be reminded that they've 112 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: gone through a grief or worries or anxiety. It's just 113 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: it's always there, and it's sort of about that, and 114 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: I think people embrace it. 115 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: Because real life's worse. 116 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: You know, and the overwhelming reaction was people's emotional response. 117 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: We've got three hundred letters my agent. That never happens, 118 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: and it was people telling their personal story. Where people 119 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: come at to me on the street. Usually it's well 120 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: done at the globes or love the office or whatever, 121 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: and this one people would side up to his say, 122 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: I've just got to say, I lost my brother three 123 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: weeks before I watched that and it was amazing. 124 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 3: That really helped it. It was me, that was me totally. 125 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: I went through that. 126 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: And so people like things they recognize because people want 127 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: to know that they're normal, you know, and everyone's grieving. 128 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: Everyone is grieving to some extent all the time, you know, 129 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: and one in four people suffer from some form of 130 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: mental illness, whether it's depression or anxiety or just a 131 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: little bit nervous sometimes around people. You know, it can 132 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: be anything. And so people like seeing themselves reflected in 133 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: something because it tells them they're not there's nothing wrong 134 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: or abnormal about them. And I think people are drawn 135 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: to that and they want it to be to discussed 136 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: intelligently and in a funny way. No harm can come 137 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 1: from discussing taboos subjects. We also second guess the public 138 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: way too much. 139 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: We sit at artists and creator and studios. 140 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: They go or the general public can't take that, or 141 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: they don't like swearing, or they can't take things. But listen, 142 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: real life is steel scarier than fiction, and we create 143 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: our own heroes and villains. There's role playing for the soul. 144 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: People love taking themselves through this scary forest of emotions 145 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: and they come out the other side and they're better, 146 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: They feel stronger. Crying makes you feel just as good 147 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: as laughing. And I really don't distinguish between sort of 148 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: comedy and drama. It's just it's me facting emotions to 149 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: strangers around the world and and then they download their 150 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: own emotions and and and that's good. That's a that's 151 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: a great workout. It makes people feel and that's what's. 152 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: Great about it. 153 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so true. Isn't it great? Ar what it is music, comedy, 154 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: film is about. Actually, it's it's about making us feel 155 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: less alone. It's about feeling your feelings better, isn't it Well? 156 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: Exactly? 157 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: Because even if you go on I'm not going to 158 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: go there, I'm not going to think about it, You're 159 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: still thinking about it in your subconscious Your stomach is 160 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: thinking about it. 161 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: You know, you don't get away with it. It comes 162 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: out in your dreams or or something. 163 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: And and all the symptoms of anxiety are incredible. They 164 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: feel they all feel like something else. You know, you 165 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: can have heart palplications, headaches, temperature. 166 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 3: Upset stomach, you can have all these things that I'm ill. 167 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: And all it is is you're you're feeling. 168 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: Anxious or you're worried about something, you know, And I 169 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: really think that we're living in a time now there's 170 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: never been a better time to discuss these things. 171 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: I think back when I was a kid, a working 172 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: class kid on a counselor estate where you know, it 173 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: was all manual workers and. 174 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: The same amount of people were probably depressed. But in 175 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: those days, a bloke, you know, he had a drink 176 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: and went to bed. And you know, I think a 177 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: number of times when that they weren't diagnosed. 178 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: They were depressed, but they didn't. 179 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: Know it, or they didn't want to admit it, or 180 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: there was there was no one to talk to. 181 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: There was just no one to talk to. 182 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: And you know, it's only been in recent times in 183 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: my lifetime. 184 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: Where you know, men can go you. 185 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: Know, I think I'm depressed it's really it's incredible. So 186 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: this shining away from stuff, I've never been one for 187 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: it either commediately automatically, and people want you to go there. 188 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: They want to, They want to go through this. They 189 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: want to. Whether whether we think they do or not, 190 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: they do and they can take it. 191 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: I think, actually, Ricky, I think there's TV show and 192 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: what it really talks about, because actually it starts with 193 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: being about grief. But actually, when I finished watching the 194 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: second season, you will is actually it's about love. And 195 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: I think that goes back a lot of your work. 196 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: If you go back to David Brent and the office. 197 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: Right to me, if I've got it right or certainly 198 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: not my interpretation of it, what does that matter? But 199 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: mind too much. It was a guy that needed a hug. 200 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 2: It was a guy who was alone, right, struggling, it's scared. 201 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: It all comes down to this. We all want to 202 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: be happy. We don't know how to do it. Sometimes 203 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: we're sold bad advice people. You know, people think that 204 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: fame can make them happy, so they go for that 205 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: and they go, oh, I'm not happy. 206 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 3: Why am I happy? Well, because you're not doing someone 207 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: you love, You're not you know. 208 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: I think people don't realize that having work is a 209 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: huge thing to tick off before you can feel happy. 210 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: You and h and fame is not the place for it, 211 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: you know that. I see these reality shows where people 212 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: go on there and they're bordering on you know, mental 213 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: illness in a way, and it's not good for them. 214 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: It's not good for them. 215 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: And these people that think, oh, if if I look 216 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: could just be loved and accepted by strange. 217 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: That we have to well know that that's not true either. 218 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: You know, you've got to learn to sort of love 219 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: yourself and know you're okay inside. 220 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: And then there's another problem. 221 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: Because narcissism for people people think, well I just love myself. 222 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: Well yeah, but you but you can't love yourself for 223 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: no reason. You know, You've got. 224 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: So you've got to make yourself a better person to 225 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: then you know, be proud. 226 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: Of yourself in a way. 227 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: So there's all these things, all these things going on 228 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: in our head, right and you know, there's a line 229 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,479 Speaker 1: in this one where Tony says, you know, we're chimps 230 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: with brains the size of a planet. No wonder we 231 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: go mentally. You know, it's hard. It's all these the 232 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: sight or questions that have been they've been invented by 233 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: our evolution. 234 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: Our biological evolution. 235 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: Has not kept up with all the technology and all 236 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: these fads and things. So it is confusing social media 237 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: it amplifies all these problems. It's not normal. So of 238 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: course people feel anxious. Anxious is A is the new 239 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: big illness at the moment. And you're right that all 240 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: it comes down to is people want to be loved and. 241 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: They sometimes they need a hug. And this is literally 242 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: about love as well. 243 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: I realized halfway through, right in the second season, this 244 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: was a love story. It is, you know, it started 245 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: the high concept is A is a you know, fun 246 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: with a missing throb who's lost everything and he can 247 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: say what he wants. 248 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: That's you know, that's that's actually the eye first. 249 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: But actually it is a love story between a man 250 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: and his wife. It's as simple as that. And again 251 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: all his confusions, he doesn't he's going through the seventh 252 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: stages of grief. We hit the ground running with sort 253 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: of like denial, shock, anger. Now he's going through negotiations saying, so, okay, 254 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: why why should I stay around? 255 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: It? Ask the big. 256 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: Question if you lose everything, his life's worth living? And 257 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: he keeps He asked himself that question every day. And 258 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: he needs reasons. He needs reasons to stay alive. And 259 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: he's trying. He's trying stuff. In the first season he 260 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: tried violence and drugs didn't help. Now he's trying kindness 261 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: and you know, and again it doesn't always work, because 262 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: it's got to be real. If you know you've got 263 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: you've got to feel good in your own head. That's 264 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: all that matters. It doesn't matter what's happening outside. 265 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what stunny or rain, doesn't matter. There's 266 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 3: a war on. If you're not good in your own head, 267 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: you're not good. That's it. 268 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought at the end of it, especially the 269 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: last three episodes of season two, it felt like it 270 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: was a love letter to love. You know, the love 271 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: you have for your friends, the love you have for 272 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: hopefully your partner. And when it's not there, what is grief. 273 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: It's the it's the yearning, it's the betting for the 274 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: love that is still there in you but not obviously 275 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: externally and around you. Then trying to find your way 276 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: into a new love. And the last line, I don't 277 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: want to ruin it for people who haven't seen it, 278 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: yet the last line just flawed me. I literally just 279 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: open me up. It was one of the most beautiful lines. 280 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: It comes out of nowhere and it's so tender, well done. Ricky. 281 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: I think it's your. I actually think it's not you. 282 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: It's your most personal work so far. And I don't 283 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: think you could have written this and performed it so 284 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: well twenty or thirty years ago, because I get the 285 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: feeling that when we get into the kind of second 286 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: half of our lives, you want to try and make 287 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: sure you're saying all the stuff that's actually really important. 288 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: That's absolutely right. 289 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: You suddenly realize that although cliches the cliches for a. 290 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: Reason, they're absolutely true. They're absolutely true, that the. 291 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Big things are things like love and oneness and kindness 292 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: and all these things. It's like, you know, you have 293 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: to Everyone knows it deep down, but they have to 294 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: go through it and realize that it's uh. 295 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: And if you can, you. 296 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: Know, the earlier you realize that that, I think the 297 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: better life you'll have. But it is hard because there's 298 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: there's so many there's so many I don't know, diversions. 299 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: You know. 300 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: The new thing about it was fame and people fell 301 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 4: for it. They thought fame would make them happy. And 302 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: also now with social media, everyone's living a line and 303 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 4: everyone's believing it. People see, you know, people with these 304 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: amazing filters next to a bot that isn't there, and 305 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: people go, well, I'm a failure. 306 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: I'm a failure. Then I need abbs in a boat. 307 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: Now you don't. You don't need abs in a boat. 308 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: You need friends. That's what you need, and you need honesty. 309 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: And when I when I was growing up, right as 310 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: I say, I was the. 311 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: Fourth child of an immigrant labor on a counselor state, 312 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: a poor counter state. We had no money at all, 313 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: and my mum was a you know, a homemaker and 314 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: she could do everything she could. 315 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: She grew a verst. 316 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: Well she'd cooked, she's sold, she made clothes, she decorated, 317 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: she did everything with no money. And she gave me 318 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: everything except money, right, and that made me realize that 319 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: the best things were free. That was nature, learning and friends. 320 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: And that hasn't changed. It hasn't changed. 321 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: It never will. It just never will. 322 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: And you know the end, But what a tiny mine 323 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: because actually with it, I think the messages to come 324 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: out of after like season two are actually just what 325 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 2: the world needs right now, because as we're forced to 326 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: go inside our houses and making us go inside and 327 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 2: spend time with ourselves, and most of us don't want 328 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: to do that. You find any which way of spending 329 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: actually time with yourself because stuff starts coming up about 330 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: you know, are you happy in life? What's it all about? 331 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: The struggle of it all? And actually, right now we're 332 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 2: being forced to do that. So I think this is 333 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: the perfect time for your show to come out. 334 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think people are probably speaking to their 335 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: family more than they did. You know, you're certainly concerned, 336 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: and you think, oh, yeah, that's important. 337 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: I want them around, don't I don't want anything to 338 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: happen to them? And I totally agree. And it does 339 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 3: make you reflect and you want to if you miss 340 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 3: the things you didn't know you missed. I don't pot 341 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: around the shots. 342 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: I can't wait to now I can't. It's like it's 343 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's yeah. 344 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, and this show is about that as well. 345 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: This shows about the mundane being important, and the ordinance 346 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: being extraordinary and and a tiny life. 347 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: Everyone's got up. 348 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: Everyone's life is their universe, and we're all the same. 349 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: We're all the same. 350 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 5: And as soon as you realize, as soon as you 351 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 5: really get true empathy, you sort of go towards one 352 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 5: this as soon as you realize that even though you 353 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 5: think you're having the worst day ever, that everyone thinks, 354 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 5: you certainly. 355 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: Start thinking, maybe my life's not the bad. Maybe there's 356 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: that saying, isn't. 357 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: It that if the world got together and put all 358 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: their problems in the hat, and it took them out 359 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: and experienced everyone else's life, they'd want to return with 360 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: their own problems. They'd want to take their own problems 361 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: home with them, the ones they've put in the hat. 362 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: And I think I think it's true. I think it's true. 363 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 2: I you know, they say, and obviously you do right 364 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: about what you know. And this is where you are 365 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: in your life right now, and you're reflecting your stand 366 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: up and then your work as well. I know last 367 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: year because I actually sent you an email going where 368 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: did you get the mop from? On social media? You 369 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: are very excited you brought some new amazing mop. I'm 370 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: watching After Nice season two, and when the character starts 371 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: talking about this amazing mop and it starts going into 372 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: so much detail, I'm thinking, that's your that's your mop. 373 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: I dislike the idea, but it's you know, people would 374 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 3: be annoyed at a thoughtless present because it's suggested that 375 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 3: they're the ones that's going to do the mopping. 376 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: And that was obviously the comedity, which she's feeling sorry 377 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: for herself. Yeah, and I like the juxtaposition that she 378 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: suddenly realized that she's moaning about getting a mop and 379 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: not being happy yet at thirty and she's talking to 380 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: a man who's just lost his wife that as well, 381 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: And again it was an ined for her to say 382 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: she feels sorry to him for saying, oh, sort of 383 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: just be happy. And that was an important issue that 384 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: I learned from all the reactions to series one, because 385 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: I realized that I had to treat it responsibly because 386 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: people suddenly identified with the grief. I couldn't just have 387 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: him snap out of it, because that's not real. You 388 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: don't just get better, you don't just you know, many 389 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: times I tweeted once that saying to someone with depression 390 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: to just snap out of it is rather like saying 391 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: for someone just stop having cancer. 392 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: It's not that easy, you know. And so that was 393 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 3: that scene. But yes, I did buy him Mark. I 394 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: was very excited by it, and it worked. A tree 395 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: worked a tree. Thanks for asses. 396 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: That's all right, And so are you? Are you enjoying 397 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: the lack of meetings because in your line of work 398 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: on one of the worst is is you have to 399 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: have a lot of meetings, And are you enjoying that 400 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: now you can do quite a lot of them on 401 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: zoom and still get stuff done. 402 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: I love it. 403 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: I absolutely love it. I'm doing more. 404 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the world has realized that 405 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: you don't need to get on a plane to go 406 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: and have a meeting now, and you haven't really needed 407 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: to for about ten years. 408 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 3: So I am happy with that. The only thing, you 409 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 3: know what, the only thing I'm. 410 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: Missing, obviously, you know, I want to roll around with 411 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: dogs on how to teeth, but you can't because people. 412 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: Are a bit nervous at the moment. But I suppose 413 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 3: the gigs it's an inconvenience. 414 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Though, And I was really loving the tour and going 415 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: to different places and experience it. 416 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 3: You know, but listen, you know you can't complain. We're 417 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 3: just postponing it. It's like we do it next year 418 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: where ever. Wee feels good and things are back to normal. 419 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm fine. 420 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely fine, And this is the. 421 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: Time that you realize that you really do you do 422 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: have to. 423 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: I never want anyone to complain about the NHS again. 424 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: I never want to hear people complaining about the way 425 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: or nurses or doctors or. 426 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, anyone on the front line. 427 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: I just think we've got to remember that we we 428 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: clapped them, and that that should always be there. 429 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 3: They should be you know, the New Year's Honors list 430 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 3: should not go to celebrities this year. It should go 431 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 3: to those people. 432 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: What a great idea. 433 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it should only go to those people every year, 434 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: the heroes. 435 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 3: It should go exactly, it should those people. Anyway, give 436 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: it to someone who gave a kidney to a stranger. 437 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: Don't give it to someone who invented a new type 438 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: of mascara. 439 00:22:54,640 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: You know, has it ever gone to someone who's got masco? 440 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to google it. 441 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 6: When I. 442 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: Know I've seen people uh given a knighthood services to 443 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: fashion want the. 444 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 6: Services to go and then great in my life, I mean, 445 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 6: it's Jesus Christ. 446 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: Ob services to a man who invented the. 447 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: Money people who are finding cure for cancer and ads and. 448 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: It's not that hard. 449 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: Are you finding a lockdown, Ricky that you go into 450 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: your fridge a lot more? Are you trying to be disciplined. 451 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: I'm not. I am trying to be disciplined. 452 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: And in fact, we've been ordering uh you know, sort 453 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: of you know, are groceries we haven't been doing. 454 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: We haven't been doing like you know, christ and nuts 455 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 3: to keep us. 456 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: In fact, I might even have had a bit less 457 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: to drink because I've been going to bed earlier, so 458 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, and I've been getting the same amount of exercise. 459 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 3: I'm doing a ma run or whatever, but making bad 460 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 3: with me in the garden. And you know what it feels. 461 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 3: It feels pressure that the air feels better, the less pollution, 462 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: the sky looks nicer. You know. I'm trying to find, 463 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 3: you know, all the positives in this, and there. 464 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: Are some, but you know, you sort of you like 465 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: the world, you know, and and slowly but surely I 466 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: hope it returns to normal for everyone's sake, because you 467 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: know better the devil, you. 468 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: Know, It's true. The image is so poud of you 469 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: out in the garden playing badminton is a powerful image 470 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: that will stay with me like a mad king. 471 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: Well it's weird as well, because you know, you play 472 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: badminton and you think you're playing a sport. 473 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 3: And then the shuttle Cup Land and with tennis, I 474 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: can pick that ball up without bending over. I can, 475 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: I can, you know, I can bang it or I 476 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 3: can put it okay and do that trick. With badminton, 477 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: I have to bend over. And you hear this every time. 478 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: It's such an extreme sport. It's such an extreme step. 479 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 3: And the and the rackets too, flims. If you need 480 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: to lean on it as. 481 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Well, I'll let you go, Ricky. It has always enjoyed 482 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: talking to you, and I thought after Live Season two, 483 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: I think it's as an actor as your best, what 484 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: you've ever done, and it is what the world needs 485 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: right now. Well done, my friend. It's brilliant, brilliant work. 486 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: I loved it. 487 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: Cheers man, Yeah. 488 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: Take care, Ricky, Thank you very much, Stay safe mate, byey. 489 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: Hello Christian O'Connell Show Podcast