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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week.

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Speaker 2: I'm Sophie Torber and coming up on.

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Speaker 1: Today's show, Adele Petropolis dramatically calls off her wedding Tammy

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Speaker 1: Hembrose psychologists urge her not to marry, Matt Zakowski, Anna

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Speaker 1: Macavoy's torturous travel day, and Steph Claire Smith's postpartum rage.

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Speaker 1: But first, Lily Brown and Jack Kenny are officially engaged.

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Speaker 1: The former Gladiator popped the question during their holiday in

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Speaker 1: Europe after almost three years together. Okay, I had to

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Speaker 1: do a double take when I saw this. I was like,

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Speaker 1: is it actually true this time? Because there's been so

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Speaker 1: many engagement rumors. There's also been pregnancy rumors which were

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Speaker 1: sparked by Jet Kenny and some weird post of Lily

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Speaker 1: as an animated egg.

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Speaker 2: That was bizarred.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is actually true. It's coming from Lily. She

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Speaker 1: broke the news on her Instagram by sharing a Lady

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Speaker 1: and the Tramp style video of her and Jet eating

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Speaker 1: this piece of past and kissing, and in it, Lily

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Speaker 1: grabs his face to show off this massive engagement ring.

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Speaker 1: You can't see it that well. It looks like it's

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Speaker 1: a rectangular diamond, which is refreshing because I feel like

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Speaker 1: all we've seen lately is oval diamonds.

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Speaker 2: There's the thing wrong with those. I have an over good.

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Speaker 1: They are stunning. Now she captured the post that's amore

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Speaker 1: and did a ton of emojis. They were crying faces,

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Speaker 1: love hearts, rings, Italian flag, so.

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Speaker 2: They did get engaged in Italy.

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Speaker 1: It appears, will you say appears because we actually haven't

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Speaker 1: seen the post out sales because Lily Brown blocked our

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Speaker 1: accounts on Instagram after that smelly pajama incident.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I felt so desperate because someone posted it in the

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Speaker 1: group and I had to be like, can anyone share

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Speaker 1: some more details? Send mere screenshot? I don't know what's happening. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well us where I saw the news first, and I

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Speaker 1: actually didn't know who the people were because it was

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Speaker 1: a screenshot of the video and I couldn't see the handle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people in our Facebook community were also confused.

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Speaker 1: They were saying, I'm so happy for this couple. This

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Speaker 1: is lovely news. But all I'm seeing is bold at

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Speaker 1: the moment because Jack Kenny is rocking a bald head.

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Speaker 2: Who are these people?

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Speaker 1: But once people knew who it was, there has been

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Speaker 1: a lot of excitement about this engagement. Lily's post has

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Speaker 1: been absolutely flooded with positive messages, and she took to

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Speaker 1: her Instagram story to thank her followers. So she said,

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Speaker 1: thank you all so much for the comments, texts, etc.

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Speaker 1: We're so overwhelmed with the love. We are very much

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Speaker 1: in the bubble right now, such a well wind of

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Speaker 1: a week. Genuinely have been waking up every day since

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Speaker 1: it happened thinking it was a dream. Can't wait to

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Speaker 1: share more soon, but for now soaking it all up.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if Jet's father, now that they're engaged, will

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Speaker 1: want them out of the house because they are currently

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Speaker 1: living with him at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Well it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jet had to save up for this beautiful

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Speaker 1: engagement ring and a trip to Europe.

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Speaker 4: My band's flew on a flight with all the boys

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Speaker 4: to go to Vegas today for bucks. Enjoying yourselves, boys,

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Speaker 4: have the best time in the universe. You enjoy Okay,

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Speaker 4: do you know what this man left me with? A

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Speaker 4: single fucking egg.

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Speaker 1: Adele Petropolis has shocked her followers by announcing she's canceling

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Speaker 1: her wedding just three months out from the big day.

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Speaker 1: In a bit to turn a negative into a positive,

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Speaker 1: the TikToker is doing a massive wedding giveaway for her followers.

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Speaker 1: Before you get into the drama, cap firstly, who is Adele.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't actually familiar with Adele before this news broke,

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Speaker 1: but I am now a massive fan of her. I

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Speaker 1: was just scrolling her content and laughing so much. I

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Speaker 1: got so deep into her profile.

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Speaker 2: So she is a thirty year.

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Speaker 1: Old influencer with one hundred and fifty eight thousand followers

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Speaker 1: on TikTok and forty thousand on Instagram. She is a

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Speaker 1: makeup artist and pilates instructor and films a lot of

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Speaker 1: cooking with Me videos.

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Speaker 2: She's just so funny.

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Speaker 1: I love her takes on things and she speaks a

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Speaker 1: lot about her Greek heritage. Now, she was engaged to Anthony.

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Speaker 1: She calls him Antha on her profile, and they had

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Speaker 1: been dating since twenty twenty, so they actually met on

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Speaker 1: a dating app and six weeks into their relationship had

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Speaker 1: to decide whether they were going to go into lockdown

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Speaker 1: with each other. And she's pretty big in the influencer space.

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Speaker 1: She is currently the of a Maybolene ad. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: familiar with her content before she called off her wedding either,

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Speaker 1: and now I just can't get enough of it. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this is so engaging and enthralling. Yeah, it keeps popping

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Speaker 1: up in my algorithm now, which I'm very thankful for. Now,

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Speaker 1: to give this story more context, I want to take

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Speaker 1: you back a couple of months. So in July, Adele's fiance, Anthony,

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Speaker 1: went on a week long trip to Vegas with his

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Speaker 1: mates for a Bucks party. Now, if it wasn't bad

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Speaker 1: enough that Adele's fiance was on a boy's trip to Vegas,

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Speaker 1: to add insult to injury, while he was gone, the

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Speaker 1: ceiling in their bedroom of their apartments started leaking, so

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Speaker 1: poor Adele was forced to deal with the cleanup and

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Speaker 1: sleep in her makeup room while it was all being fixed.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it was fixed just in time for Anthony

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Speaker 1: to get home. Can you imagine the text messages going

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Speaker 1: back and forward on this trip.

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Speaker 2: I would not be pleased.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She actually shared one of the videos that she sent

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Speaker 1: him that I had these big industrial fans and now

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Speaker 1: trying to clear it all up. Now, before Anthony's flight home,

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Speaker 1: he told Adele that he had a present for her,

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Speaker 1: which he bought on the las last day of the trip. Now,

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Speaker 1: Adele shared the news to her TikTok followers, saying, this.

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Speaker 6: My fiance is in the doghouse. He is in the

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Speaker 6: wolf wolf house. I gotta be quick because I've got

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Speaker 6: to run in and go to go teach my classes. Okay,

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Speaker 6: how I know he's in the doghouse. I don't know

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Speaker 6: why he's in the doghouse yet. Okay, boys are coming

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Speaker 6: back from a week long trip in Vegas. Okay, Vegas. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: God knows what happened in Vegas. What happens to Vegas?

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Speaker 6: Stays a man as shot fu. Huh hello a love,

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Speaker 6: come back home?

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Speaker 3: No support?

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Speaker 6: Huh club swaata right here. I'm gonna hosee him down

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Speaker 6: in bleach before he comes home. He did buy me

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Speaker 6: in present though, all right. My theory is the bougie

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Speaker 6: of the present. What has he done to be sorry for?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: So she did pick up on a vibe that something

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Speaker 1: was going down on this trip. What did he bring

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Speaker 1: back for her? Well, it wasn't looking good because she

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Speaker 1: unpacked on camera. A designer handbag, and she looked pretty

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Speaker 1: shocked when she opened the parcel, and she goes, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry for ripping into you. So you could tell that

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Speaker 1: they'd been fighting, and Anthony said it was also for

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Speaker 1: her upcoming thirtieth and joked for Christmas and New Year's too,

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Speaker 1: because it's bag retails for around five thousand dollars. Well,

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Speaker 1: followers began speculating that he must have done something bad

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Speaker 1: in Vegas off the back of Adele's original video about

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Speaker 1: him being in the doghouse. So this gift seemed to

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Speaker 1: spark a lot of conversation. Yeah, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: it was all a lit little bit of tongue in

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Speaker 1: cheek because Adele had said, oh my god, what must

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Speaker 2: And that's her sense of humor.

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Speaker 1: I actually had a colleague, maybe I shouldn't say claim,

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Speaker 1: an ex colleague, who told me that her ex boyfriend

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Speaker 1: bought her a designer bag the day before he married

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Speaker 1: someone else, almost as a bit of a sorry present.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean, so he sent it to her? Oh,

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Speaker 2: he arrived at her.

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Speaker 1: Doorstep with a designer bag literally the day before he

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Speaker 2: So did she know he was getting married?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? She did.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my god, is that sort of a bit of

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Speaker 2: a shut up present?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: Was there stuff going on before the wedding?

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Speaker 1: Or Look, I don't know all of the ins and outs,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like there must have been something going

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Speaker 1: on the sea so at that So should we all

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Speaker 1: be pleased that our partners have never bought us a

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Speaker 1: designer hand? Like?

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Speaker 2: Is that a sign of guilt?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: In August, the couple traveled to Europe for a friend's wedding,

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Speaker 1: and Adele shared a lot of travel vlogs throughout the trip,

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Speaker 1: and on the third of September, while they were in Athens,

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Speaker 1: she unexpectedly shared this written statement saying that she would

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Speaker 1: ready now. The day before, she had posted, as usual

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Speaker 1: she was in Athens with Anthony. She ended up taking

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Speaker 1: back online to share a video of her in bed

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Speaker 1: with texts that read PTSD loading and a caption that

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Speaker 1: said offline for a reason. We now know what that

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Speaker 1: reason was. So last week, Adele announced that she was

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Speaker 1: canceling her wedding just three months out from the big day.

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Speaker 1: Let's throw to some of what she said.

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Speaker 8: Do you know what I didn't have on mid a

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Speaker 8: Bingo card for this year? Where I didn't have on

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Speaker 8: my Bingo card for this year, for this fucking year,

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Speaker 8: canceling my fucking wedding. Canceling my fucking wedding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so sorry for her.

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Speaker 9: I know.

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Speaker 1: It turns out she left Anthony in Athens and flew

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Speaker 1: home by herself. She said it's the hardest thing she's

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Speaker 1: ever gone through, but she wasn't going to be that

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Speaker 2: She admitted that her.

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Speaker 1: Heart was racing during the video and that she felt sick,

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Speaker 1: but she said she always shows her authentic self online,

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Speaker 1: so it would be no different. Now it'd be so

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Speaker 1: difficult because by announcing it online it almost makes it

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Speaker 1: more real. Well, she had to because he was a

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Speaker 1: permanent fixture on her TikTok. Now, she hasn't gone into

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Speaker 1: the details about what actually caused the breakup, but she

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Speaker 1: said this.

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Speaker 8: On a very fucking surface level, very fucking service level.

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Speaker 4: Something happened or has happened.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's all I'm going to say about that. That

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Speaker 8: didn't allow with my principles, didn't align with my values

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Speaker 8: as a human being on this fucking earth that has

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Speaker 8: made a lifelong commitment to someone and I have decided

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Speaker 8: to walk away.

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Speaker 1: As soon as someone says I'm not going to explain

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Speaker 1: the full story, but then they touch on the fact

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Speaker 1: that what the person did did in align with their principles,

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Speaker 1: you automatically assume it must.

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Speaker 2: Be infidelity that's caused a breakup.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's important to point out we don't

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Speaker 1: actually know, and there are a lot of rumors swirling around.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at the time of recording, that breakup announcement

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Speaker 1: has amassed over two point seven million views, and I

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Speaker 1: Kayler jade So for those not familiar with Kayler, she

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Speaker 1: is a popular TikToker who shares her life as a

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Speaker 1: Tammy Henbury has hinted that her therapist warned her not

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Speaker 1: liking Olema Amiga's parody about her crime. I don't know

440
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 1: if she'd actually take a swipe at Matt Paul like this.

441
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 1: They seem to have a pretty good co parenting relationship.

442
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 1: But then he went and publicly liked this derogatory video

443
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 1: about her. So I think she's well within her riots

444
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 1: to say. I know some people have disappointed me and

445
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: not been loyal, because it was quite disloyal.

446
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 2: Now we're coming to you.

447
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: From the future precisely about an hour after recording our

448
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Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrow segment, because news has just dropped the Bailey

449
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 1: Smith is definitely not taking Tammy Hembro to the Brownlow.

450
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 1: He revealed that during an interview on The Kyle and

451
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: Jackie Oshow, he also completely dissed her by saying they're

452
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Speaker 1: just mates. Let's throw to some of what he said.

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Speaker 4: Tonight or no, no, I'm not No, I didn't want

454
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Speaker 4: to bore her with Footy all night.

455
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Speaker 3: So yeah, she's not a big Footy fan and no,

456
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Speaker 3: we're just mates. So nah, you guys aren't like schools

457
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Speaker 3: of all. My boyfriend girlf mad just mate.

458
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Speaker 2: Didn't he sound so young?

459
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Speaker 1: I would be so pissed off if I was Tammy

460
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: Henbury listening to this, Like it's a complete slap in

461
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Speaker 1: the face. It's like, why did you hard launch your

462
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: relationship on your Instagram or soft launch? Really?

463
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 2: I think it was a hard launch.

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Speaker 1: The fact that he shared her story on his Instagram

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Speaker 1: account and they were out on a date.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon maybe.

467
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Speaker 1: They are just friends and they've been trying to make

468
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Speaker 1: Matt Szakowski.

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Speaker 2: Jealous making out.

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Speaker 1: No, but do you reckon that it's all for a

471
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Speaker 1: bit of fun, Like because I've heard before in the

472
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Speaker 1: past that they did know each other before this incident,

473
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Speaker 1: and maybe Tammy, being the pr mastermind that she seems

474
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 1: to be, maybe thought, look, this is going to generate

475
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Speaker 1: some attention. It's going to get my name out there.

476
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: It looks like I've moved on from this relationship and

477
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Speaker 1: this divorce. No, I don't think so. I think that,

478
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Speaker 1: you know, Hammy said it herself on a YouTube. She

479
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: is a lover, She loves love, and you know, she

480
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 1: gets into things really quickly. I think she would be

481
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 1: hurt by this. It was clearly a rebound though it

482
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: was a bit of fun. But still I think that

483
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 1: when you have a rebound so close to, like a big,

484
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: major relationship breakdown, there's sometimes more difficult to deal with.

485
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: There's a whole tripe of you know you, It's harder

486
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Speaker 1: to get over a situationship than a full term relationship.

487
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift made that pretty clear with all her whole

488
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Speaker 1: album poets about Matt Healy. Yeah, and I mean clearly

489
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Speaker 1: Tummy was invited originally to the Brownlow, Like you know,

490
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Speaker 1: she was getting a skin ready for it. I'm wondering though,

491
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Speaker 1: because she uploaded this TikTok a couple of days ago

492
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Speaker 1: and she was miming to FANTASYE by Mariah Carey when

493
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Speaker 1: she got what she called a wild notification. She wrote,

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Speaker 1: point of view, you get a wild notification mid Mariah solo.

495
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Speaker 2: I wonder maybe if it was a text to say

496
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Speaker 2: you're invited to the Brownlow dump. Do you also think

497
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Speaker 2: that maybe Tinder have something to do with this.

498
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that they paid Bailey Smith a lot of

499
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Speaker 1: money to be the face of their new campaign, and

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Speaker 1: they've said, hey, look, could you call things down a

501
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: bit at least.

502
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Speaker 2: Pretend that you're single and seeing people.

503
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Speaker 1: No This is definitely coming from Geelong Football Club and

504
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't read into it too much because do

505
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Speaker 1: you think also he's just a typical footballer and he's

506
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Speaker 1: done a bit of a root and boot.

507
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Speaker 7: No.

508
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Speaker 1: I think it's all about destruction leading into, you know,

509
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: the most important game in his.

510
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: Career, the Grand Final. He doesn't want your long fans

511
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: blaming Tammy Hembro.

512
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: He wants to make it clear she's not going to

513
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: be at the Brownlow, she's not hanging around me, She's

514
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: not going to be at the Grand Final. And then maybe,

515
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, once the Grand Finals over, we might see

516
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: them rekindle things. If anything, from watching the prelim on

517
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: the weekend, he's taken any stride and Tammy's been good

518
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: for him because he played so well. He was getting

519
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: booed by the crowd. I think that was to do

520
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: with him giving the bird to that photographer. But you know,

521
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: if anything, he's been in great form. I personally think

522
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: that they're going to rekindle things more publicly once the

523
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: footy season is over and they've just been told to

524
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 1: publicly cool it down. The mainstream media are so confused

525
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: with what's going on because they were reporting that Tammy

526
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: posted about having a crash out and it must have

527
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: been about Bailey Smith.

528
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: That was about Matsakowski. Okay, so I was.

529
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: Getting confused, and let's keep up. If they do need

530
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: some expert opinions on these matters, they can contact Yeah,

531
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Speaker 1: Pooty Classified if you need us for comments, we're here.

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00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 9: I'm so excited about Hawaii.

533
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: Anna macavoy has opened up about the reality of traveling

534
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: with a baby. The former Love islander and her husband

535
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: Michael Staples are currently holidaying in Hawaii with their three

536
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Speaker 1: month old son Swede. I remember even before Swayede was

537
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Speaker 1: born that Anna was really adamant that having a baby

538
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: wasn't going to stop her travel.

539
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: Plans at all.

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00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: I remember hearing that on her podcast while driving and

541
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: scoffing and like, yeah, right, you are not going anywhere.

542
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: But she has really proven us wrong. She's been off

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00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: to Hawaii.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing.

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00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: She does share a lot on her Instagram about holiday content.

547
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't call her a travel blogger, but

548
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Speaker 1: the most notable holiday that she shared about was her

549
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: wedding in Greece, and they often traveled to Thailand and

550
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Speaker 1: Bali They recently went to Palm Cove for their baby moon,

551
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Speaker 1: so it's quite clear that before they had Swayed, they said,

552
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: we love traveling. We're going to continue doing it even

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00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: when we have him. And they had a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a rehearsal leading into the overseas trip.

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00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 2: So they did a.

556
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: Stay ca in the city for Michael's birthday and things

557
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: did not run to plan. On the way to the hotel,

558
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: Swayed did a pool explosion in the car. They also

559
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: forgot his sleep suit any parents worst nightmare? Really, Well,

560
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: Michael had to make this mad dash to came out

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Speaker 1: to go and get a cheapo version of his sleep suit,

562
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: and he could only find a larger size, so they

563
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: had to get the little sewing kit in the room

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00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: to make it smaller.

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00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I probably would have just packed up and

566
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: gone home.

567
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 9: Right by that.

568
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Speaker 2: You're not enjoying it, are you.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty brave. They went on to book the overseas trip.

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Speaker 1: If that had been me, I would have been shaken

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Speaker 1: by the whole thing.

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00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: And we're not doing it for a couple of years.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 2: Also, despite the.

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Speaker 1: Setback, Anna ended up sharing this video of her and

576
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: Swayed looking out the hotel window and she captioned it,

577
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Speaker 1: you're a minder that travel doesn't need to end when

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Speaker 1: you have a baby. So there's a lot of mixed

579
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: messaging going on, like, you know, on an Instagram story,

580
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: oh it's hell, but then on the Instagram feed it's like, oh,

581
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: it's so magical taking your baby on a holiday. Swayede

582
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: is literally only a couple of weeks older than Luca,

583
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Speaker 1: and I just couldn't even comprehend taking him on an

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00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: international holiday. But in saying that, I really admire the

585
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Speaker 1: parents who just say, fuck it, we're doing it. I

586
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: personally don't have, but in me, it just seems like

587
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: such a hassle. And also it seems like a lot

588
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: of money to spend on a holiday that might not

589
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: go to plan. And hmm, I mean a lot of

590
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Speaker 1: people say to do it before the age of six months,

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00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: which makes sense to me because you're not feeding your

592
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: baby solids and they're also not moving may But then again,

593
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: you're dealing with sleep progressions, you're dealing with having too,

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Speaker 1: you know, constant feeding of milk, breast milk.

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Speaker 2: It's just being unknown, isn't it.

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00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, And leading into the trip, you could tell that

597
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Anna was starting to feel a bit apprehensive. On her

598
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: podcast Where's Your Head At, she told her co host

599
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: Matt Zakowski that Swede has suddenly awoken from his newborn

600
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Speaker 1: slumber and had a very big personality. Let's have a

601
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Speaker 1: listen to some of what she said.

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Speaker 9: But anyway, Yeah, I'm so excited about Hawaii, little bit

603
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 9: nervous about the flight with Swede. I'm not even gonna lie.

604
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Speaker 9: It's a ten hour direct flight. That's okay.

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Speaker 2: He'll be fine.

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Speaker 9: It's okay. But as I've said in previous episodes of

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Speaker 9: this podcast, he has awoken from his newborn sleep like

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00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 9: he is wide awake. He lets you know if he's

609
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 9: not happy. So yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Just put his dummy in for when they're landing.

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00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: In that for the ears.

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Speaker 9: I think you breastfeed them on the way up and

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Speaker 9: down to stop them because they may though.

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Speaker 2: I think so the seat belts in that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: That's what people have told me to do, so I'm

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Speaker 9: gonna If he's screaming, I'm obviously going to feed it.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Matzakowski was like, oh, ten hours, that'll be no problem.

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Speaker 1: I gassed when I heard ten hours, like ten hours.

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Speaker 1: The thing is he said it with such conviction, yeah,

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Speaker 1: which it made me laugh because I'm like, oh, he's

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Speaker 1: got no idea what he's talking about. I mean, he

624
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: was a stepdad to Tammy Hembro's kids for a couple

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00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: of months. Posey was two or three at the time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't really compare that to a three

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Speaker 1: month old baby.

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Speaker 5: Can You.

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Speaker 1: Did make me laugh because he's like, oh, just put

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Speaker 1: his dummy in when the flight takes off, as if

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Speaker 1: that would solve all of the problems.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Anna and Michael, the flight was no walk

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Speaker 1: in the park. While Anna said that there weren't too

635
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Speaker 1: many meltdowns on board, there also wasn't much sleep, so

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Speaker 1: when they finally did get swayed to sleep in the

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00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: plane bassinet, there happened to be turbulence and they had

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Speaker 1: to quickly take him back out. She also said he

639
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: didn't love the basinet because it was all inclosed. Now overall,

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00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: apparently he only got about one and a half hour's

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Speaker 1: sleep on the ten hour flight, whilst they got about

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00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: an hour. So she said they were absolutely exhausted and

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00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: everyone around them was probably exhausted. Yeah, and I mean

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00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: once they were in Hawaii, it seemed like that travel

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00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: day and also the time zones really had a huge

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00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: effect on Swede because Anna ended up sharing a video

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Speaker 1: of Michael literally looking like he was at his wits

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Speaker 1: end and he was trying to calm Swayed down.

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Speaker 2: I felt so sorry for him.

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00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: He looked like a broken man, and she captioned it,

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Speaker 1: yesterday was the hardest day of parenting we've ever had.

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Speaker 1: Swayede was fighting his sleep like never before and was

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00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: inconsolably crying, which was heartbreaking. I'd love to tell you

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00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: the number of shushes. On a more positive note, he

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00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: has woken up super happy today. I was really relieved

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00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: to hear that he had a better day the next day.

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Speaker 1: The shushing thing cracked me up because I have this

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Speaker 1: Nannet sound machine and it's so good that it actually

659
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Speaker 1: makes a shushing sound for you so you don't have

660
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Speaker 1: to exhaust yourself. No, it's like, sh it's so funny.

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Speaker 2: I remember falling asleep to that.

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Speaker 1: I think it was week two and three of bringing

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Speaker 1: Luca home, and I woke up.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what is that annoying? That's quite annoying.

665
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Speaker 1: I have really been enjoying checking in on this holiday

666
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Speaker 1: and seeing the little updates now and then, because to

667
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Speaker 1: Anna's credit, she has been sharing the ups and the downs,

668
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Speaker 1: and there's been some really heartwarming moments within it that.

669
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Speaker 2: You're like, oh, maybe I will take my baby on holiday.

670
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Speaker 1: Well, it's clear she knows the videos that are also

671
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: going to do well on TikTok because she shared a

672
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Speaker 1: video of her and Michael showing Swede fireworks at the

673
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Speaker 1: resort for the first time, and she captioned it, what

674
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Speaker 1: if it all works better than you could have imagined.

675
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Speaker 1: And she did another sort of viral video where Swayede

676
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: was in the ocean with them and it said, your

677
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: mum and dad didn't stop traveling, so now you're three

678
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Speaker 1: months old and floating over waves in Hawaii. And it's

679
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Speaker 1: quite clear that she's trying to encourage other parents to

680
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Speaker 1: get out there and see the world. But I wonder,

681
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Speaker 1: if you're being a bit earnest, do you think it's

682
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Speaker 1: just because that content does really well on TikTok oh one,

683
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Speaker 1: because there's almost an element of rage baiting to it,

684
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Speaker 1: because you know the discussions that are being had in

685
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Speaker 1: the comments.

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Speaker 2: People are going to be.

687
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Speaker 1: Like, I would never take my kids on holdos and

688
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Speaker 1: oh my god, I love taking my kids on holidays,

689
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Speaker 1: and then there would be guides in the comments like yeah,

690
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Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of rage baiting going on.

691
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Speaker 1: And also it seems like Anna's not really sure which

692
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Speaker 1: path she's going down on parenting. Is she being really

693
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Speaker 1: raw and sharing the truth or does she want to

694
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Speaker 1: be one of those Instagram moms who only shows the polish.

695
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Speaker 2: Version of mother.

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Speaker 1: Well, I suppose maybe she knows that there's ups and

697
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Speaker 1: downs and why not share both of them. I also

698
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Speaker 1: think that a lot of that more aspirational content is

699
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: happening on her TikTok account, because it's really on her

700
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: Instagram stories where she's sharing the reality. Because after that

701
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: post did quite well of the fireworks, she uploaded an

702
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: Instagram story where she said that it all looks great,

703
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: but in reality, Michael and I have to eat every

704
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: meal alone while the other person soothes swayed. She also

705
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: said that she's only been able to venture into the

706
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Speaker 1: adult pool area once and basically her and Michael did

707
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Speaker 1: this trade off where if he went.

708
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Speaker 2: For a run, she got to go on the pool.

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Speaker 1: And she also kept it real by showing that they

710
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Speaker 1: went out on this day excursion to Hawaii and basically

711
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: she was wearing this beautiful white skirt and swayed did

712
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Speaker 1: this huge.

713
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Speaker 2: Poo explosion on it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like she's almost got her social media platforms

715
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Speaker 1: mixed up, because if I was her, I would be

716
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Speaker 1: sharing the reality on TikTok and more of the aspirational

717
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: stuff on her Instagram feed, Like people love that stuff

718
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: on TikTok, But maybe she feels more comfortable on Instagram

719
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Speaker 1: because on Instagram, it's probably people who have followed her

720
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Speaker 1: since she was on Love Island and actually know her,

721
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Speaker 1: whereas TikTok is so random. Yeah, I mean there's a

722
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Speaker 1: lot of mum shaming and trolling on TikTok. Well, at

723
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Speaker 1: least it sounds like they've had a bit of a

724
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Speaker 1: couple time because Anna shared a screenshot of some flirty

725
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: text messages that she and her husband sent in this

726
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: photo dump, and it made me laugh because she was

727
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: calling him a hot dad and he replied calling.

728
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Speaker 2: Her a Megan milf. I hope that she shared that, like, oh,

729
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: it's like a little bit of a humble brag.

730
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Speaker 1: Oh Mike, I was like, oh, I don't know you

731
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: were sharing this in the commentation.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's kind of come to a point now where

733
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Speaker 10: I'm really feeling pretty shitty every day with how I'm

734
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 10: coping with things, and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just needing a bit of extra help.

736
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Speaker 1: Steph less Smith has opened up about her daily struggles

737
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Speaker 1: with ADHD since having her daughter, Billy. The Key co

738
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Speaker 1: founder said she's been experiencing emotional breakdowns and intense bouts

739
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Speaker 1: of rage. So if this feeling of overwhelm has led

740
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Speaker 1: Steph to seek some help, yeah, this really was a

741
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Speaker 1: very raw and honest look behind the curtain at how

742
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Speaker 1: Steph Klesmith's postpartum experience has gone so far. So she

743
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: had her daughter Billy only a few weeks before I

744
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: had Lucas, so I feel like I've had this weird

745
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: parasocial relationship with her pregnancy and also so her newborn journey.

746
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Speaker 1: And I just find it so fascinating to see what

747
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: an influencer's life looks like now that they're a new mum.

748
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Speaker 1: I just compare what I am going through, and if anything,

749
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Speaker 1: I felt like it looked like Steph had been flourishing

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Speaker 1: on her socials because Billy seemed to be a much

751
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: better sleeper than her son Harvey, and she'd been posting

752
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: all of these beautiful nap trapped moments and she seemed

753
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: to really be embracing at this time around, so I

754
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: was really surprised to hear that behind the scenes, she's

755
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: been struggling with these emotional breakdowns. It's really interesting being

756
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Speaker 1: a mum now. So I've got a fifteen month old

757
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: and you know, the newborn phase doesn't seem that long ago,

758
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: and you know, I've watched now you and Amy go

759
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: through it, and I do find it fascinating seeing how

760
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: other mums portray it on social media, and I've learned

761
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: that everyone does it so differently. But sometimes I'm like,

762
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: hang on, why is your baby not napping or you know,

763
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? And I've got to remind

764
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: myself what everyone does everything differently. And with Steph being

765
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Speaker 1: a second time mom, I was like, I'm really interested

766
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: to see what that is, like how they're dealing with it.

767
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Speaker 1: And I think she's been pretty open throughout it all,

768
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: but she hasn't touched upon the rage until now, and

769
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Speaker 1: I found that so refreshing because we all go through it,

770
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: even if you don't have ADHD see I found that

771
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: having my own postpartum experience has really changed me because

772
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: now whenever I hear that another mum is doing it tough,

773
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: it absolutely breaks my heart because I found the first

774
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: couple of months, while I'm only three months in, but

775
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: I found it so challenging, and really the first couple

776
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: of weeks I felt really down. So it breaks my

777
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: heart to see anyone experiencing these emotional breakdowns and also

778
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: this rage that she's been talking about, and particularly also

779
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: trying to navigate that with a pretty fresh ADHD diagnosis,

780
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: because Steph got that diagnosis when she was pregnant and

781
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: she wasn't at the time able to go on medication

782
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Speaker 1: for it.

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Speaker 2: So she announced on the.

784
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Speaker 1: Kickpod that that is something that she's looking to trial. Yeah,

785
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: and she actually released her own mini series on her

786
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: podcast about navigating eighty and she said that it was

787
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Speaker 1: because of that transparency early on that she wanted to

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Speaker 1: continue opening up about it, particularly during this postpartum time.

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Speaker 1: And she told her co host Laura Henshaw that she

790
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: isn't managing well, let's have a listen to some of

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Speaker 1: what she said.

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00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 10: And the unfortunate thing is outside of myself, you know,

793
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 10: my kids and Josh are the ones that are also

794
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 10: having to copy it. Really, and what I mean by

795
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 10: that is the overwhelm is sending me into immense amount

796
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 10: of rage and emotional breakdowns.

797
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Speaker 3: And basically I look.

798
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 10: Like Harvey, like I'm having full toddler tantrums and meltdowns

799
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 10: if she's like not going my way or things haven't

800
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 10: happened how I thought they would.

801
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: I just really appreciate her being so honest about this

802
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: because I think it will really help other mums going

803
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: through a similar experience. And as you said, Kay, I

804
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: think whether you have ADHD or not, it is so

805
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: common for women during this postpartum time to feel completely

806
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: overwhelmed and also experienced this sense of rage and resentment.

807
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: And it's clear for Steph that this is obviously exacerbated

808
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: by her ADHD. Yeah, I think it's really good that

809
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: Steph has provided that behind the scenes look, because she

810
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: does post a lot of beautiful photos of her with

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Speaker 1: her children, and you know, she's returned to work very

812
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: early on, She's been back at events, you know, a

813
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: couple of weeks after giving birth. Well it looks like

814
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: she's thriving really, Yeah, and it would be easy for

815
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: other mums to look at that and be like, oh

816
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: my god, why isn't she struggling like I am, Like

817
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: she has it so easy, And I was like, well,

818
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: that's actually not the reality. I mean, you don't really

819
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: want to pick up your camera when you're having a

820
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: massive argument with your husband and document it to the world. Well,

821
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: it's also that challenge of her going from one to two.

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Speaker 1: And she said that her son Harvey, has been having

823
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: meltdowns and that she and her husband Josh are at

824
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: a point where they've run out of patience.

825
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to more of what she said

826
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: about that.

827
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Speaker 10: And we are really struggling with Harvey at the moment.

828
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 10: He is just having really really big emotions. He's almost

829
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 10: pre emptying before we even say no to things, things

830
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 10: that we're going to say no, and then so he's

831
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 10: having a lot of mountdowns and stuff, and we are

832
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 10: just our patience has gone and we are both feeling

833
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 10: really guilty for that because at the end of the day.

834
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Speaker 3: They end up mirroring what you do, not what you say.

835
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Speaker 10: And I have not been a very good example for

836
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 10: him because of my emotional state at the moment, where

837
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 10: I'm just losing it over really little thing.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty brave of her to put up her hand

839
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: and say, hey, look, Harvey is acting out because of

840
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: me and the way that I act at home. There

841
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: seem to be a lot of self awareness there with that,

842
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: And as I briefly touched on, Steph is going to

843
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: be exploring potentially getting medicated for her ADHD. So she

844
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Speaker 1: has an appointment locked in with a psychiatrist, and she's

845
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Speaker 1: going to continue documenting her journey with her followers online,

846
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: which I think is really brave of her and I'm

847
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Speaker 1: interested to see how it all goes well. That is

848
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