1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Tammy Hembro's 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: online breakdown as she's spotted on a second date with 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Bailey Smith as she binds, opens up about her husband's 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: drinking problem, and Sarah's Day's Secret project. But first, Kati 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Milan has jumped on the I'm Just a Girl TikTok 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: trend and shared a recent relatable mishap. She told her 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: followers it's the most fucking stupid, pointless activity that she's 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: put herself through in a long time. 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: That's a big call, but I think she may be correct. 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: So earlier in the year, the Australian influencer who now 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: resides in the UK decided she wanted to leave London 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: because she quote hated it, so despite loving her rental, 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: she ended up cutting a lease a year early. However, 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: by the time her moving date came around, she decided 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: that she didn't want to go, and of course she 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: made the revelation just as landlord found new tenants to 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: move in. So it turns out that luckily for Katia 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: the house next door was up for rent, so she's 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 2: now in the process of moving all her belongings next door. 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: And the way the house is designed, she showed herself 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: moving boxes across the balcony. 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: It sounds like a complete headfuck. I cannot imagine having 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: to pack up all of my belongings to move them 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: literally next door. 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: If I was here, I would have suggested to the landlord, oh, 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: could you get the new tenants that are moving in 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: here just to move next door instead, so I don't 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: actually have to move. 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's just some bullshit paperwork that stopped it. 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: Well, it turns out she was the one delaying the 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: whole process because she was meant to move out in May, 34 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: but extended her lease a little bit more and that's 35 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: when they found the new tenants, so it was just 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: really bad timing. Apparently the new place has got a bath, 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: which is a bit of an upgrade from the other one, 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: at least. 39 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's worth moving your whole life 40 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: from one house to the other for the bath, though. 41 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: I can't wait to show you, guys. And I'm not 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: trying to be annoying and like something's coming, like guess what. 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: But I just want to wait till it's all before 44 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: I reveal everything. 45 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: But I'm so excited Sarah's day has revealed it She's 46 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: in the midst of major change in her life. The 47 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: og fitness influencers shared she's working on a secret project 48 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: as well as waiting and praying on another big opportunity. 49 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: The updates come off the back of Sarah dramatically losing 50 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: her partnership with Australian perfume house Who Is Elijah. 51 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: It seems like Sarah has been scrambling to prove her 52 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: worth ever since she got sensationally dumped by Who Is Elijah, 53 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 2: And last week she made a really big deal on 54 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: an Instagram story about how she was going above and 55 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: beyond for a photo shoot with the electroac company that 56 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: she's invested in. She's also been teasing that she's working 57 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 2: on a second cookbook, sharing a lot of vision of 58 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: her photographing food and testing recipes. So I think it's 59 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 2: really hit a nerve and she's trying to say, oh, well, 60 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, I've got all of these projects on 61 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: the go. 62 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: That is exactly how it's coming across. And on Wednesday 63 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: last week, She revealed on her Instagram story that she 64 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: was feeling a mixture of excitement, overwhelm, and nervousness. So 65 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: she was vlogging from her car when she. 66 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: Said this, there is so much happening in my life 67 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: at the moment. And remember a few vlogs ago. I 68 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: think it was like a month ago. I've been so 69 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: bad at flogging, I said. I think Kurt and I 70 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: were sitting together and we said, we just feel like 71 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: there's a change in the air, and truly we didn't 72 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: know what that was, whether it was like family, lifestyle, work, 73 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: no more babies. 74 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: Sarah went on to say that there were two major 75 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: things going on. One of them she still doesn't have 76 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: clarity on, but she said she was praying and waiting 77 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: until she felt one hundred percent that it was the 78 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: right direction. As for the other, Sarah dropped that a 79 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: secret project that she's been working on for the last 80 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: few months was fully coming to fruition. 81 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: Now. Sarah was quite coy on the details, but she 82 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: did reveal that she was inspired to create something after 83 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: feeling like she'd lost her sense of self and her 84 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: cup was empty. Now, She's been talking about this quite 85 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: a lot ever since having her son Harlow, ten months ago. 86 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: So she said the fact I've worked on this and 87 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: designed it in a way that is going to make 88 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: me feel so full in every sense and I don't 89 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: have to pause motherhood. A couple of days later, she 90 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: also shared a screenshot of her computer and I feel 91 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: like whenever she does this, everyone zooms in because in 92 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: the past, her pregnancy announcement was actually spoiled because she 93 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: had a messenger screen up that said, you know, she 94 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: was telling someone that she was pregnant. So that's exactly 95 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: what I did. I screenshot and zoomed in, and I 96 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: could see the title, and I think there's a dollar 97 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: sign in front of it. The other words, I could 98 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: definitely read what's sixty challenge? So it's a little bit 99 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: anti climatic, but it seems like she's doing some sort 100 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: of fitness challenge because she wrote, haven't been this inspired 101 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: in a really long time. I cannot wait to share 102 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: this with you because this is what I need designing 103 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 2: it for my fellow girls who need to fill their cup, 104 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: have fallen into habitual routines that don't serve. You need 105 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: to commit to something and can lean on a community 106 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: to keep you accountable. 107 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: Well, as you said, those clues really point to it 108 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: being a fitness challenge. I mean, it's more on brand 109 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: for her to be releasing something like this. I thought 110 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: the perfume was always. 111 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 2: A bit odd, and it's all one hundred percent cash 112 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: to her. I'm wondering if she's playing on the whole 113 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 2: seventy five hard challenge that is going around social media 114 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: at the moments. People have done their own spin on 115 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: it and done seventy five soft. 116 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: Well, whatever it is, I'm sure it's going to be 117 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: some kind of toxic fitness challenge that's packaged up to 118 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: be some kind of inspiring thing for mothers. 119 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 2: We've been seeing a lot of that recently on us. 120 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: The timing's a bit weird, though, because she's only just 121 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: recently launched her postpartum fitness guides, and she took years 122 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: and years to get them out, So I don't know 123 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: if it's just like I've got more time, I might 124 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: try and flog another one off, a quick sixty day 125 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: challenge that suits everyone else, just not mothers. I mean, 126 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: she spoke a lot about filling up your cut, but 127 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: she did specify that it wouldn't just be something for Mums. 128 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: It was for everyone looking. 129 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: To do that. 130 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: And on Friday, Sarah decided to drop some more clues, 131 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: so she filmed herself in a meeting with her graphic designer, 132 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: and in it she did not hold back. It was 133 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: quite uncomfortable to watch. 134 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: She was really happy to tell the. 135 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: Graphic designer watch didn't like let's throw to some of 136 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: the audio, that whole thing. 137 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: Because I don't like the font. I don't like the colors. 138 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: I hate a gradient, you know, I hate a gradient. 139 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 4: It just looks boring, like it's too tall. I don't 140 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 4: like it. It looks like hospitality to me. It doesn't 141 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: look strong and like energetic and athletic. Slant the six 142 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: or something. 143 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: Do soft of the colors. 144 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 5: It need to be a little bit more. 145 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: No, I think. 146 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: It's a nice no no, no, no, no. 147 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 5: I think colors. 148 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: Why are you doing the pink to me? 149 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: Purple? Am allergic to purple? I am I like break 150 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: out into her purple. 151 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 5: No, no, no no. 152 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: When I first saw the video, I just was like, wow, 153 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: she was so rude to the graphic designer. But then 154 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, it's actually super helpful when 155 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: someone is that direct about what they want. 156 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know how you could watch that 157 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: back and think, oh, yeah, I think I'll post that 158 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: up as a reflection of what I acted like in 159 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: a meeting. 160 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: But so many people were commenting on TikTok saying, oh, 161 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm also allergic to purple. 162 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: It is interesting to see how Sarah rolls out this 163 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: next project, because I feel like we've seen a lot 164 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: of influencers move away from the whole secret project strategy 165 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: side of thing and just share what they're doing. But 166 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: I think Sarah really got burnt with being so open 167 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: about her partnership with who Is Elarga, and I'd love 168 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: to know how she's feeling about it all. Because the 169 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: co founder of who Is Elijah, Raquel Boris, put up 170 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: a question box on her Instagram story asking for people 171 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: to nominate themselves to be an ambassador for them. So 172 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: she wrote, who is Elijah is looking for the best 173 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: of the best social media girlies. Do you have amazing experience, 174 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: live and breathe? Socials love content and creation. Sarah would 175 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: be absolutely affuming because they claim that they didn't have 176 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: the capacity to do an ambassadorshit with her. 177 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder how many of her friends. She's got 178 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: to message in saying her name. 179 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: Oh, well, it's quite awkward because Ellie Watson, who Sarah 180 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: has had on a podcast before. So I don't know 181 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: if they're actually friends, but I know Sarah draws a 182 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: lot of inspiration from Ellie. She put up a story 183 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: thanking who was Elijah for a pr package they sent her, 184 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: so potentially she may be on their list, and that 185 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: would be such a slap in the face for Sarah 186 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: because if you put them both on paper, they're very similar. 187 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: Well, I just wonder are they actually looking for an 188 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: influencer to be an ambassador or are they asking their 189 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: customer base to put themselves forward to be part of 190 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: a campaign. 191 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: When I saw this question box go out, I was like, Oh, 192 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: it must have been a budget thing as to why 193 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: they cut Sarah's day. Because Sarah's day, she's a massive influencer. 194 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: She's got over a million followers. She would demand a 195 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: pretty big salary for being an ambassador for who is Elijah? 196 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: Whereas if you put it out to the community, you're 197 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: almost asking people to apply for the role and you 198 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: take any hand away that they have, so there's not 199 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: much bargaining room. If they're actually putting themselves forward. 200 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: See. I don't know if it was just a budgeting thing, 201 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: but I think maybe it was more so the brand 202 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: looked at these type of partnerships with huge influencers and 203 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: thought they're a bit tone deaf, and that's why maybe 204 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: they're reaching out to members of their own community to 205 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: be the face of their perfume brand instead. 206 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: See. I don't think they're necessarily looking for just a 207 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: member of the general public. I think they're looking for 208 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: that tear of influencer who is competing against a lot 209 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: of others for brand deals and is probably quite desperate 210 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: and may just take product or a smaller amount of money. 211 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 5: Honestly, feels so weird, like posting that video that I 212 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 5: just posted. 213 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,239 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro has given fans a glimpse into her emotional 214 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: state during her short marriage to Matt Sakowski. Over the weekend, 215 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: the og fitness influencer uploaded a montage of old clips 216 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: of her crying uncontrollably with her wedding rings in full sight. 217 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: The video comes a week after she was spotted on 218 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: a date with geelong start Bailey Smith. 219 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Amy, but I found it 220 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: so difficult to watch the montage of clips because they 221 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: were so raw it felt like something we shouldn't be 222 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: looking at it. 223 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very uncomfortable and for those who haven't 224 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: seen it, the video was set to the song to 225 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: Build a Home by the Cinematic Orchestra, so the video 226 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: opened with text which read, it felt like the heaviness 227 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: would never end. 228 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: Tammy then went on to share numerous clips of her 229 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: breaking down. So in one clip she showed her hand 230 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: uncontrollably shaking, while in another she was rolling around on 231 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: the floor banging her hand on the ground, and in 232 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 2: another scene, Tammy was uncontrollably crying while brushing her hair. 233 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: And following the montage of sad clips, the video then 234 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: transitioned to happier clips of Tammy with her kids and 235 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: friends enjoying life, with the text that said, but then 236 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: I noticed the light creeping back in. 237 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: So in the caption, Tammy wrote, I made this so 238 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: long ago and honestly never thought i'd share it. Watching 239 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: it back makes me genuinely feel ill. But with everything 240 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: happening right now, if there was ever a time to 241 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: share it, it's now. I'm posting this for the person 242 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: who feels like they're drowning the way I once did. 243 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: The person who can't see a way forward. I want 244 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: you to know it does get better, I promise you. 245 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: Some traumas shake you so deeply they change the way 246 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: you see literally everything, the world, the people around you, 247 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: and even yourself. But little by little, the light comes back. 248 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: No one else knows your whole story. No one has 249 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: felt what you've felt, seen what you've seen, or carried 250 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: what you've carried. This is your life, your journey, but 251 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: you are not alone in it. One day you'll look 252 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: back and realize you survived what you thought would break you. 253 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: Now. My initial thought when I watched the video was 254 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: how does someone capture themselves crying genuinely? And someone had 255 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: the exact same thought as me, so they wrote under 256 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: Tammy's video on Instagram, just curious do you cry first, 257 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: then film or set up the camera and then cry. 258 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: Tammy ended up replying to the comment saying these were 259 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: actually just videos of me talking that I sent to 260 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: my siss that were never intended to see the light 261 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: of day. Hope this helps. Tammy's sister Amy added her 262 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: own insight in the comments, writing, my heart was breaking 263 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: for you during this time. This brought me to tears. Now, Amy, 264 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: We've been through a lot together over the last thirty 265 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: six years, but I've never received a video of you 266 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: breaking down and crying. 267 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't really send videos like this, Like 268 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who send voice notes 269 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: to one another. I mean, this is taking it a 270 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: step further, actually videoing yourself and sending them as messages. 271 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad that Tammy actually clarified that these are videos 272 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: she was sending her sister, because I find it so 273 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: odd that people will be crying at home and their 274 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: first thought is, Oh, I'm gonna whip out my phone 275 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: and start filming this. Yeah. 276 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: It always seems very performative when influencers share videos of 277 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: themselves crying. So I'm glad she provided that further context. 278 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 2: And I suppose I'm here saying, oh, well, I've never 279 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: received a video of you crying and talking to the camera. 280 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: But we're not influencers, and I think talking to the 281 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: camera is just second nature to them, So it kind 282 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: of makes sense that this is how Tammy would communicate 283 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: I'm with her sisters. 284 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the other thing, Like, I don't 285 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: whip my phone out and film my whole day. So 286 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: for some influencers, maybe it does make sense to think, oh, 287 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: I'm about to tear up, let's bring the camera out 288 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: and capture this. I mean, I think some people film 289 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: themselves crying because they think it's really authentic, and it's 290 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: almost like they're trying to prove to their audience. No, 291 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't just have great times here. I am also sad. 292 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: It's going to be my least favorite type of content 293 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: and influencers shares and I'm going to be quite brutal here, 294 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: and I'm sorry if anyone actually does film themselves crying. 295 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: But whenever I see that type of content, I just 296 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,119 Speaker 2: think to myself, oh my god, are you're a narcissist, 297 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: because like the fact that you've set the camera up, 298 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 2: filmed yourself, and reviewed it and then thought, yeah, I'm 299 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: gonna post that on my story, I look good crying 300 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: because whenever I've seen myself crying, and I'm trying to 301 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: think when that would be because I don't film it, 302 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: but you know, when you see yourself in the mirror 303 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: and you've just had a cry, I'm like, I think 304 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: I'm an ugly crier. I mean, Kim Kardashian is the 305 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: most famous ugly cry that there is. 306 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you cry, your eyes go a 307 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: really bright color. 308 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: Oh, some people's eyes look really good when they're crying. 309 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: Those are the ones that are posting it on social media. 310 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: But you're right, there's so many steps to it. So 311 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: it's not only you're just taking your phone out to 312 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: film it. You're then reviewing it. You're then putting it up. 313 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: You know, you're loading it onto Instagram or TikTok and 314 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: then having to push publish. 315 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: And then also selecting like emotive music and like the 316 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: caption to Anyway, Tammy ended up jumping on her story 317 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: to provide further clarity around why she decided to post 318 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: the video and how she actually got the shot. This 319 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: is what she said. 320 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 5: I made it and it was just like too much 321 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 5: for me, So I was like, I'm not like gonna 322 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 5: post it like I made it so long ago. But 323 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 5: I mean, it's about that now, and I just know 324 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 5: that I like, when I was going through it, videos 325 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 5: like that helped me so much. So if I can 326 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 5: like do that for one person, then that's all I want. 327 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 5: But also I don't I don't like just film myself 328 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 5: crying mid breakdown, Papa. Yeah, I don't usually for myself 329 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 5: mid breakdown. Most of those videos, I was actually talking 330 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 5: in them and sending to my sister, So that's that anyway. 331 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 5: I never want to you look at any of those 332 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 5: videos ever again. So hope everyone has a good day. 333 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: Tammy has just given a real insight into her TikTok algorithm. 334 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: She must have been deep in breakup TikTok for videos 335 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: of people filming themselves crying to be penetrating her feed 336 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: so much. 337 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 338 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, those sort of videos just make me feel uncomfortable, 339 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: Like I would never sit back and go, oh, this 340 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: is making me feel better. 341 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: To be fair, I haven't gone through a breakup since 342 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: TikTok has been a thing, so maybe that really would 343 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: have hit a note with me if I'd been in 344 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: the breakup trenches. 345 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: Maybe we're just emotionally inept. Maybe it's us true. I 346 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: think that could be also. I mean, it's clear that 347 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: Tammy had a lot of support from the influencer community 348 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: because beloved TikTok chef and former makeup guru Michael Finch 349 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: commented under Tammy's video, Oh Babe, the shaking love you. 350 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: It's funny because when I was putting together the deep 351 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: Dive on Tammy Hembro, I watched a lot of Tammy's 352 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: old YouTube videos and Michael Finch actually popped up on 353 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: one and around twenty eighteen when he was at his 354 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: height of his makeup guru fame, and he was actually 355 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: in attendance Shani Grimman at Emily Hembro's gender reveal. 356 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: Oh that's so weird. I didn't even place those twos 357 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: together as being friends. I mean, it makes sense them 358 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: both being in Queensland. 359 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: On the Gold Coast. Talking about Gold Coast influencers, former 360 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: b Brother contestant and also friends of Michael Finch, Sky 361 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: Wheatley added, this makes me cry strongest, most independent woman. 362 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: I've got to correct you, Kate, former friend of Michael Finch. 363 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: I forgot that they weren't friends anymore. That's really sad. Yeah, 364 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: I love seeing them together. 365 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Well og influenzer Kati Milan also wrote I love you, 366 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. But there was one comment 367 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: that raised eyebrows and it was from controversial Only Fans 368 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: star Anna Paul, who wrote, happiness always comes back. 369 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: I feel like that was more of a self serving 370 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: comment from Anna Paul. It was kind of like, I'm 371 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: going to insert myself into this internet drama and kind 372 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: of make people feel a bit sorry for me as well. 373 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think she's just glad that Tammy Hembro 374 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: has taking a bit of the heat off her. 375 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the biggest influencer story at the start 376 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five was Anna Paul. We're now in 377 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: the Tammy Hembro era. I want aways happened for the 378 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: next couple of months of the year. 379 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: I think the Tammy drama is just going to continue 380 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: until Christmas time. To be honest, I personally. 381 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: Found the timing of Tammy's video very interesting because it 382 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: appears to be in direct response to the claims Matt 383 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: Zakowski made on his podcast on Thursday. So in that episode, 384 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: Matt really painted a picture that he was the one 385 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: that was unhappy in the marriage. He claimed he was 386 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: the one that ended things with Tammy and it was 387 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: all for his mental health. Tammy's then gone hol my 388 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: beer Matthew and given a real insight into just how 389 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: she was feeling during her marriage, and it makes me 390 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: think she's sick of Matt trying to play the victim 391 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: and control the narrative. 392 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: Well, it's obviously getting nasty because we spoke a few 393 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: weeks ago about how the lawyers have become involved. So 394 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: I think the gloves are off for Tammy Henbro. We've 395 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: seen it in how she's lauding her new relationship with 396 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: Bailey Smith. Things are getting nasty. 397 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people think that the photo was 398 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: a setup pap shot. Tammy has also managed to combat 399 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: Matt's claims that they only broke up eight weeks ago, 400 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: because she made such a big point of saying that 401 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: this video was made so long ago and she didn't 402 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: think that she was going to share it. So it's 403 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: really clear that she wants people to know that this 404 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: relationship was done for a while before she moved on 405 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: with Bailey Smith. She saying, look, it wasn't too quickly 406 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: as Matt claimed, and late last week, Tammy's best friend 407 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: Isabelle Laws also hit back at Matt's claim that Tammy 408 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: had blindsided him by moving on after eight weeks. So 409 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: under the Geelong Advertisers coverage of Tammy and Bailey, she 410 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: wrote eight weeks is crazy with the laughing face emoji 411 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: closer to six months laugh out loud. Now six months 412 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 2: would make the breakup mid February. To with that into perspective, 413 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: the couple only got married at the end of November 414 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 2: and got back from their honeymoon late December, so that 415 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: is a very quick turnaround. 416 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, the honeymoon period literally ended after the honeymoon. 417 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're all witnessing at the moment 418 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: a master class and how Tammy has managed to attract 419 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: twenty million social media followers and keep them entertained because 420 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: she is super strategic with the content that she is 421 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: posting at the moment. 422 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: So you don't think that she's actually posting this to 423 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: help others. You think, no, this is just to get 424 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: it Matt. 425 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: Oh, it is completely to shut down what Matt said 426 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: on his podcast and also to the media. She had 427 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: this video ready to go in her bag of tricks 428 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: to shift public sentiment when it was needed. 429 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's been able to cleverly reposition herself as a 430 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: victim again because Matt was really trying to pose as 431 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: the victim last week during his podcast. Yeah. 432 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: I predict Matt will hit back on his podcast on Wednesday, 433 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 2: which we'll get delayed till Thursday, and I'll be like, 434 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: when is this coming out? I need to hear it now. 435 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: Amongst all of the online chaos, Tammy and Bailey have 436 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: still managed to find time to have a second date. 437 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: And this was on Friday, so they were spotted walking 438 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: with their arms around each other at a beach on 439 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: the Gold Coast. One onlooker filmed the new couple and 440 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: sent her into Instagram watchdog account influencer updates AU. They 441 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: told the Instagram account they pulled up together in her car, 442 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: got coffee and went for a walk, then drove off 443 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: with him driving her car. 444 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: All I could think of was, how the hell has 445 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: Bailey Smith got approved time off from his football club 446 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: to fly from Melbourne to the Gold Coast to go 447 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: on a date. He had a game on Sunday in Sydney. 448 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 449 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: I just love though that the Bailey Smith factor has 450 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: brought all of these other commentators into the world of 451 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: Tammy hembro because I saw someone shared in our group 452 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: that former Carlton player and Big Brother contestant Daniel Goringe 453 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: he put up this hilarious TikTok video. So there was 454 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: a photo of Tammy and Bailey making out at some 455 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: restaurant that someone had taken and in the side of 456 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: the photo you can see another diner's plate and their 457 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: steak and chips were absolutely swimming in gravy and all 458 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: he could do was comment on this plate of food. 459 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: It was fucking hilarious. 460 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: It is funny seeing the footy commentator's way in what 461 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: I didn't like, and I didn't even want to talk 462 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: about it on this podcast. But there is a community 463 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: coach in Western Australia that's been sacked for saying the 464 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: most vile thing about Tammy. I'm not even gonna repeat 465 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: it because it's so offensive. 466 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: I saw this in a headline and I was like, 467 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: I am shocked that they put this term in the headline. 468 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: It seems like the headline created confusion for some because 469 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: we're going to actually basically have to say what this 470 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: guy said in order to give this story justice. But 471 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: there was a word used, and it was a sea word. 472 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: But it's not irregular sea word that people bleep out. 473 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: It was more of a disgusting sexual term. 474 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: So it wasn't see you next Tuesday. No it wasn't. 475 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: But my mom thought it was the sea word and 476 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: my mom said, well, what is a cunt bucket? And 477 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: I was like, Mom, it's a different from. 478 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: When they pronounce it coom tween boys. I felt like 479 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: alcohol always just kind of came. It was like this 480 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: invisible wet. 481 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: It wasn't visible. 482 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: It's like a wedge between us. Ashe Bines has revealed 483 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: that her husband's drinking problem almost broke up their marriage. 484 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: The og fitness influencer made the cantid confession during an 485 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: episode of her podcast, She rises. 486 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: I have to admit I usually find it quite difficult 487 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: to get through Ashy's podcast. I'm really not their target 488 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: mind when it comes to listening about self help and 489 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: toxic positivity. But I was hooked to this episode so 490 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: as she had her husband Steve Evans on the podcast 491 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: to reflect on their seventeen years together. Can you believe 492 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: they've been together that long? 493 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: Wow? 494 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 2: And they really didn't hold back so for full transparency. 495 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: Back in the day, I was more team Kayla than 496 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: I was team Ashiff. I never did the workout guy, 497 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: but I definitely knew who she was though, but I 498 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: wasn't familiar so much with her backstory, so I found 499 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: it pretty interesting when ash was reminiscing about how she 500 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 2: first met Steve. So she was only nineteen at the 501 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: time and he was twenty eight, and it turns out 502 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: that he reached out to her on Facebook of all places, 503 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 2: and they chatted for a few months before meeting up 504 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: in person. And she said when she first saw him, 505 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: she knew he was the one now, as she often 506 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: gushes about Steve online in the past, She's called him 507 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: her night in Shining Armor. And the podcast was even 508 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 2: entitled The Man who believed in Me before I did. 509 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: And this is because Steve was the one who introduced 510 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: Ashi to the fitness world. He was a personal trainer 511 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: for ten years before he met Ashi and as she 512 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: ended up actually falling in love with fitness by taking 513 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 2: one of his boot camps, and then they built Ashe's 514 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: fitness empire together. And it was interesting to hear Ash 515 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: talk not so glowingly about Steve on her podcast, particularly 516 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: when they spoke about their hardest times together as a couple. 517 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: Let's throw to what Steve said. 518 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 6: In the relationship. It's definitely been my drinking. It's caused 519 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 6: a lot of, I guess trust issues because withheld and 520 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 6: just the drinking is very triggering in general, no one 521 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 6: likes the person they are when they're drunk. But you know, 522 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 6: it didn't serve our relationship at all. But happy to say, 523 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 6: you know, we haven't had a drink for a really year. 524 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: So as She went on to explain that she found 525 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: Steve's issues with alcohol really triggering, and this is because 526 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: as she grew up with an alcoholic stepfather who was 527 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: also very abusive. So ashally said that a lot of 528 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: Hair and Steve's fights would center around alcohol and it 529 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: got so bad that their relationship coach told them to 530 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: break up. 531 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a pretty big deal for a relationship 532 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: coach to be like, actually, I can't help you. 533 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: I quit. 534 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm actually, yeah, I'm going to surrender being paid to 535 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: help you. You need to go your separate ways. Despite 536 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: this advice, though, Ashley and Steve managed to save their marriage. 537 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 2: So Steve ended up going through a group called Brotherhood. 538 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: So within this group, he took three to four meetings 539 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: a week, which included one on one training, breath work, 540 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: and talking to the group about his problems. The couple 541 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: also worked with a therapist, and ashually went on to 542 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: say the couple are now better than ever so when. 543 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: Did this all happen, Like, was this a recent thing 544 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: or was this years ago? 545 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: So they said it happened around five to seven years ago, 546 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: when their oldest son, Taj was very young. 547 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: That makes sense because if this only happened a year 548 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: or so ago, they probably wouldn't want to put it 549 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: out there. 550 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Steve said he's been sober for a year now, 551 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: so it seems to have been an ongoing thing for them. 552 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: This episode continued to be pretty juicy because Steve also 553 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: touched on ashe's infamous friendship breakdown. So he said, alongside 554 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: his drinking problems, one of the hardest things for him 555 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: was to see his wife go through friendship breakdowns. So 556 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: he is of course referring to Ash's recent friendship bust 557 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: up with her former best friend and podcast co host 558 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: Kiara Duro. 559 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: Well, Amy, I'm glad you're clarified to the listeners, because 560 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: Ash has of course infamously parted ways with her other 561 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: former best friends Sammy Leo and Gretti Rose. But I 562 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: do agree with you. I'm pretty sure Steve was referring 563 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: to Kiaraduro and when he was talking about these friendship breakups, 564 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: he explained that he and Ashy had learned a lot 565 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: of lessons after getting big quickly on social media. He 566 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: said one of the main ones was how to react, 567 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: and for him, that means not putting fuel on the fire. 568 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: This is what he said. 569 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 6: So when their friendship breakdown and I saw you know, 570 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 6: there was a few cases there where things were thrown 571 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 6: at you and sometimes untrue, sometimes on call for, sometimes 572 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 6: an overreaction to something. And it's been really hard to 573 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 6: sit there and watch you cap that because I know 574 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 6: the real story and the truth behind the scenes, and 575 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 6: because I know you're such a lover. You know you 576 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 6: wear your heart and your sleep, especially in friendships. You're 577 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 6: one of the best loyal friends. I know you're the 578 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 6: first one there for a birthday cake, you're the first 579 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 6: one to organize a dinner for someone's birthday, or you'll 580 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 6: always attend everything and be the best friend. And you 581 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 6: can see the people that you've drawn into your life. 582 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: Now. 583 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to refute what Steve is saying here, 584 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: but it's a little bit awkward when you get your 585 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: husband on your podcast to say what a great friend 586 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: you've been after all of these public friendship breaks down. 587 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like getting your mum to say what an 588 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: amazing person you are. Yeah, that's it. 589 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: Really did feel like that. Anyway, that is where we're 590 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: going to leave things today. If you do want to 591 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: hear more content from us, though, we drop a subscriber 592 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: only episode every Thursday. That episode is basically an extension 593 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: of our regular shows where we talk even more about 594 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: influence across it and. 595 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: If you did enjoy the show, we would really love 596 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: if you could go and leave us a five star 597 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: review because it really helps out the show. This episode 598 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people 599 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to elders past 600 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: and present.