1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Celebrating International Women's Day. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: It's a special Will and Woody podcast Mini It's International 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Women's Day. We've got a swathe of amazing guests. Woulds 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: and Shark's going to join it. Our mums are going 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: to be on the show, Taylor Harris as well. So 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: really some some wonderful guests to celebrate International Women's Day, 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: but all of them are phenomenal. We're going to kick 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: it off with a cracker as well. We've had her 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: on the show before. She was on Obviously Get Me 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: out of Here a little while ago. She is a 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: phenomenal writer, comedian, TV presenter, all the above things. Her 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: name's Melbudo. 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: The last time we spoke to this lovely lady, she 14 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: was telling us how hungry she was after a stint. 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: In the jungle. 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: She was in there for a whole forty seven minutes 17 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: before I free. It was thanks to Culvin and she 18 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: likes Firstly, I think she. 19 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: Was missing the taste of Victoria Sponge and a freshly 20 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: baked Scott do much time on Australia's bakof She's not 21 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: made for the jungle and that's okay. She's made for 22 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: comedy and shoe Pastry. Welcome back to the show, our 23 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: very special guests. 24 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: Fitting it's a National Women's. 25 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: Day, our favorite video. 26 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: Belve that's someone who's afraid of snakes. 27 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: Mel Bottle, how are you, Kiora boys? 28 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm good for someone who's trapped outside of the borders 29 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: of their own country, keeping the spirits up here? 30 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: Where are your mel Bottles? 31 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm in New Zealand to film a TV show and 32 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: obviously borders have gone up and being bang bong anyway, 33 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: looking forward to doing double quarantine? 34 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: Ah? 35 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: Nice? Do you think you think you learn from the 36 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: first quarantine though? So the second one will be a breeze? 37 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: No, I think the second one will be absolutely mentally crushing. 38 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it works like that. Before we go on, we 39 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: threw it to Melo going and she said kia aura boys, 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: which is obviously kiwi maudi for good. How you going? 41 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: And you said where are you? 42 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Not the brightest. 43 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: And you're learning that and everyone's learning that. I just 44 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: thought she was dropping in a bit of kiwi. I 45 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: didn't think that meant she was calling really confusing. 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: I'm calling from Patagonia. 47 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: With potentially potentially. But let's move right past that, mel 48 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: because we've got you on. Well, one of the reasons 49 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: we've got you on, Mel is because it's International Women's 50 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: Day today and we are celebrating some phenomenal women in Australia. 51 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: I've got some great people coming up, but you are 52 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: the only comedian we've got on the show. And I'm 53 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 3: interested to ask you, Mel about how you know, how 54 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: your experience as a woman in this stand up comedy 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: scene has been And if you think it was more 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: difficult for you because you're a. 57 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: Woman, well, it's not more difficult because I'm supremely talented 58 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: one of the you know, oh how to say that 59 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: without sounding It's like every workplace, you know, there's always 60 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: little little grotty grubs in every workplace, and comedy is 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: no different. You know, There's there's always guys that introduce 62 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: you to stage by implying to the audience that they've 63 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: had sex with you and stuff like that. But you know, 64 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: like it's all right, it's singings. It's a lot better 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: than when I started. 66 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting thing for me. You've got you've kind 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: of like really becoming entered into the spotlight, Mel in 68 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: a period of wild transition for comedy where I'd like 69 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: to think that we're you know, steadily moving away from uh, 70 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: really tired stereotypes and really like lazy jokes to be 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: honest that we're based on those stereotypes. Have have you 72 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: have you felt that transition through your career in comedy, Like, 73 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: have you really felt a shift there? And do you 74 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: think there's still a shift to that needs to happen 75 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: or do you think it's in a good spot now? 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: I really watching go a bit more? I reckon I 77 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: could certainly, you know, to be given a few more opportunities. 78 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: Like what the frustrating thing is is you start comedy 79 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: with some boys, right, and then we all plod along 80 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden the blanks who've started 81 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: with have their own TV show and you're still you know, 82 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: doing the dubo RSL and proudly so. 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 3: We love the RSL. On this show, We've got melmore 84 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: Mel Buddle up next Mel just a reference for everybody 85 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: before we got to a song. 86 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: She's gonna be in the Melbourne Comedy Festival if you're 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: in Melbourne, a wonderful chance to see some brilliant homegrown talent. 88 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: Mel Buttle live. Obviously a lot of thought in that 89 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 2: name Mel. We'll talk about that more next. We're kicking 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: it off with Mel buttle Or joins this. Right now, 91 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: you can see Melbourn's comedy festival, Mel Butterle Live. 92 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: Mel. 93 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you because the theme around 94 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: in National Women's Day this year is choose to Challenge, 95 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: and I just wanted to know whether, like a lot 96 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: of people who are in comedy, whether you started out 97 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: thinking you were going to do something else and then 98 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: you chose to challenge yourself to go and do comedy 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: and what that transition was like. 100 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, the harbit is keeping on going in comedy when 101 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: you were getting paid fifty dollars and or you can 102 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: eat hot chips. Yes, to push through that for the 103 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: first few years is difficult, but then but then someone goes, hey, 104 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: do you want one hundred dollars and you think to yourself, 105 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: my god, I am I'm a star. 106 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: All of a. 107 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: Sudden you get to go and I'm a celebrity. 108 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: To get me out of here, nice things explode? So Mel, sorry, 109 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: was that the moment for you, Mel, where you were going, Yeah, 110 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: this is going to work out and I'm home here. 111 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: That was kind of the biggest thing I've done that, 112 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, I was only on the show for forty 113 00:05:53,960 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: six minutes, but that's another issue. But yeah, certainly the 114 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: biggest mainstream thing I've been a part of. 115 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: But I suppose the reason I was asking you before 116 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: is because I saw that you'd said recently that I'd 117 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: love to talk to you about is and this hopefully 118 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: can time with International Women's Days that a big conception 119 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: or misconception of comedians is that they're they're they're confident 120 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: and like being the center of attention. Can I ask 121 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: you like, as a woman, I feel like historically there's 122 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: almost been like a perceived platform within which male sort 123 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: of patriarchal society has allowed women to be funny within 124 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: Tell me if I'm saying anything out of out of. 125 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: Turn here, You've You've chosen some very big words there. 126 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: Thanks very much. Are any of them fitting with with 127 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: with something that you've experienced before? 128 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. It's kind of like it. Look, 129 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: let's cut down to it. Comedy up until pretty recently 130 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: was a boy's job. I work with men. There's a 131 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: lot there's farmal men in the industry and then there 132 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: are women. But yeah, it's kind of it's still in 133 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I don't know what is wrong, but 134 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: people think they're giving you a compliment. And this comes 135 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: from men and women. People come up with me after 136 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: the show and they go, now, I don't normally like 137 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: female comedian, but you were pretty good. I'm like, just 138 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: cut out the first half of that comment, and so 139 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: I enjoyed. 140 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: The show, so true. Yeah, I knew a lot of 141 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: female comics when I was doing a little bit stand 142 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: up in wa Yeah, and that happened all the time. Now, 143 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: it wasn't you were great. It was like, oh, well 144 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: I never find women funny, but you were all right. Yeah, 145 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: And that was just like a constant threat. 146 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's kind of what I what I was 147 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: getting at before with all my big words is that 148 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: there was almost this like spot that we allowed women 149 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: to be funny within which didn't let them be necessarily, 150 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: you know, the lead funny person until well, for me, 151 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: like I'm just trying to think in my own experience, 152 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: feel like that got really broken with movies like Bridesmaids 153 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: and Tina. 154 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: Fa Amy Shumer. 155 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: These sorts of people were just like, you know what, Na, 156 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: we're actually bloody funny and we're going to be the 157 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: pinup person is and I don't need to be a 158 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: cameo have you? How do you feel about that? Because 159 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: I know Tina is a bit of an inspiration of yours. 160 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I I love it and I think unless 161 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: you can see it, you can't be it. And Tina 162 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: Fey and STANDI Rock was the first time I saw 163 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: a show with her central female character that he had 164 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: created and I was like, oh, like, are you allowed 165 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: to do that? 166 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: Is that? 167 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was allowed. So that was pretty inspirational. 168 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: But the it's but when we come back down to 169 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, comedy comedy club lineups in Australia, people say, oh, 170 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: now you must you must know Celia Pecola and I'm like, 171 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: I meant Celia maybe ty because you know, just because 172 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: the woman on the lineup on the woman on the lineup, 173 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: we're not going to be there. 174 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: So it's still you know, yeah, that is amazing. What's good. 175 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: It's good to hear we go in the right direction though, 176 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: mel And you are a genuine star. The first thing 177 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: you said to this interview was that you are supremely 178 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: talented and that is bloody true, Melo, that is bloody true. 179 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: Go and see her at the Melbourne Comedy Festival. It's 180 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: called Mel Buttle Live, which is really bloody exciting and 181 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: again we're going to hear a lot more of that 182 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: name Mel, which I'm really excited about. 183 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for joining us, well, thanks for all your 184 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: words on that. It's really interesting stuff. 185 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: My pleasure. Have a good one. 186 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: Boy. You hear more of the boys on the Full 187 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: Show podcast. 188 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: You know you want to