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Speaker 1: Now, I've got to tell you I was a bit disappointed.

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Speaker 2: I was certainly hoping that my next guest was going

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Speaker 2: to be the Minister for Northern Australia. He joins me

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Speaker 2: in the studio right now, it is Luke Gosling, the

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Speaker 2: Member for Solomon.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Luke.

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Speaker 3: How are you Katie?

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Speaker 1: Oh mate?

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Speaker 2: I was waiting for it to come out, and I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you weren't the only one hoping that.

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Speaker 1: All in good time? Were you disappointed?

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Speaker 3: I certainly, naturally. I suppose it's a you know, it's

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Speaker 3: lot of high quality people and a lot of a

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Speaker 3: lot of ambition. But it's kind of one of the

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Speaker 3: things that we always struggle with from the territory is numbers.

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Speaker 3: You know, politics is at numbers game, as you know,

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Speaker 3: so some of the other states obviously had a bit

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Speaker 3: more pool. But having said that, I was really encouraged

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Speaker 3: Like I'm really clear on that that there is a

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Speaker 3: future in the ministry for me, and as time goes

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Speaker 3: on that very may well occur. But in the meantime

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Speaker 3: it's just such a big job taking over government getting

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Speaker 3: sorted out in the portfolio area. So I'll just be

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Speaker 3: assisting those that are in like Madeline King who's in

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Speaker 3: that role, and also Matt Keo, both from WA in

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Speaker 3: that role, and I'll be working closely with them.

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Speaker 1: She's based in Rockingham.

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of our listeners asking during the week,

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Speaker 2: you're in Rockingham.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you know, obviously Northern Western Australia is

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Speaker 1: As in Kunara, not Rockingham.

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Speaker 3: I do know about Madeline is that she does get

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Speaker 3: happy about is that Northern Australia has gone into cabinet,

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Speaker 3: that's obviously what my job is and what I'm passionate about.

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Speaker 3: Just because I'm not in that room doesn't mean that

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Speaker 2: Any word on when she's going to have her first

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Speaker 3: Now she's looking at her diary right now, she's reading

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Speaker 2: And were speaking a little bit earlier this morning about

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Speaker 1: Are exporting our gas.

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Speaker 2: But how important do you think that that is going

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Speaker 3: What's it called when they keep some of their own

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Speaker 1: We did talk about that a bit earlier this morning.

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Speaker 2: Actually, guess the reserve is that I can't remember exactly

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Speaker 2: It seems only right I think when you're talking about

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Speaker 2: sort of structuring that Veterans Affairs had fallen out of

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Speaker 2: I've got a message here from Ian Ingray and it says, Hi, Katie,

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Speaker 2: as a veteran, can you ask Luke Gosling his thoughts

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Speaker 1: Do you think that it's going to have any impact now.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm going to Perth tomorrow. I'm going

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Speaker 3: I guess, judge this movement before time. But one thing

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Speaker 3: But I'll be fighting every day for Territorians, and my

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Speaker 2: Well look, there's lots of messages coming through, but there's

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Speaker 2: one here that says, don't worry Luke, just keep doing

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Speaker 1: It's only a matter of time before elbow.

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Speaker 2: Works out at Rockingham is at the bottom, not at

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Speaker 2: the top. Your day will come, brother says that text message.

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Speaker 3: Look, I've really appreciated all the messages of support from people,

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Speaker 3: I'll be making sure we do well.

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Speaker 2: Luke Gosling, it is always good to catch up with you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: She will good stuff. Good on you, Luke. Thank you