WEBVTT - MZUKI & ALLYAH - AUSTRALIAN IDOL - CHANNEL SEVEN

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload, the podcast last.

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<v Speaker 2>Week that life.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with

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<v Speaker 1>Mazuki Alia, the first two eliminated booted contestants from Australian

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<v Speaker 1>Idol's Top twelve. The competition is really heating up and

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<v Speaker 1>after a nail biting first week of performances, it was

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone's guest on who was going to be sent home.

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely think both of these girls have something really

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<v Speaker 1>special and I know that you're going to hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>In my chat today, Mazuki will talk about the online

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<v Speaker 1>trolling and how that affected her time on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Alia will share how the songs were picked and what

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<v Speaker 1>producers wanted her to lean into. I find out about

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<v Speaker 1>the dynamics between this year's Top twelve and what the

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<v Speaker 1>girls think of the friendship that they now have with

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<v Speaker 1>the remaining artists left in the competition. You will get

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<v Speaker 1>everything from their thoughts on the judges, if the remaining

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<v Speaker 1>artists have the tenacity to match their talent, and what

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<v Speaker 1>part of the singing competition that doesn't count. But leaves

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<v Speaker 1>the audiences knowing what they're missing. There is actually so

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<v Speaker 1>much to talk about, with so many inside revelations as

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<v Speaker 1>per usual, So sit back and relax as we unpack

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<v Speaker 1>the wonderful world of austrain Idol, which returns this Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>night on Channel seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hi Van, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good? Have you been to bed? Live? TV is

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<v Speaker 1>a bitch?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, isn't it? Isn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm surprisingly doing quite well considering the outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>My head's pretty highest steels.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations though, And can I just say I have learnt

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<v Speaker 1>from you from watching you and your humble nature, your empathy,

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<v Speaker 1>your kindness. I just think, and I'm forty five and

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<v Speaker 1>so we're always learning. But I just thought, yeah, dled

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<v Speaker 1>that so well?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you? No, that means a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look I again, like I have to look around

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<v Speaker 3>the room and see who I'm up against. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like someone had to go home. Unfortunately it was me,

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<v Speaker 3>But I can happily look at top ten and go and.

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<v Speaker 2>Every one of them deserve that spot. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that my partner was still working

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<v Speaker 1>last night as the live episode was happening, and I

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<v Speaker 1>watched Australian idol, like people watch the Super Bowl a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of screaming, a lot of yelling, and he heard

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<v Speaker 1>both songs and he said to me, oh, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>clearly know who's going to win out of those two girls.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, no, you don't know. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anyway, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Not with the public society, and you really never know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was shocking. I'm shocked.

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<v Speaker 3>No. I appreciate that, thank you, and that support things

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<v Speaker 3>means a lot, means you for something in me, So

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<v Speaker 3>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so strange because this particular season, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bit of a genuine bond going on with everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that manufactured for television or were you all getting

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<v Speaker 1>along like a house on fire?

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<v Speaker 3>I love this lot off camera, like I have a

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<v Speaker 3>genuine connection to these people.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we have all bonded so quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so fine with the verdict, like not fine,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean excepted my fate being eliminated, and I

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<v Speaker 3>had I walked off, you know, with my head held high,

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<v Speaker 3>proud of what I had done out there, and I

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<v Speaker 3>kept it together until I walked into the room full

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<v Speaker 3>of the contestants. The minute I saw all their faces

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<v Speaker 3>was just the silence was loud. Everyone just stopped talking

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<v Speaker 3>and we had a little group cuddle. It was that

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<v Speaker 3>moment that I saw them and I realized, damn, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get to see you guys and spend time

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<v Speaker 3>with you guys anymore. That really hit me and the

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<v Speaker 3>water work started from there. So it is a genuine

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<v Speaker 3>connection with these lots.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the movie Speed where Sandra Bullock says relationships

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<v Speaker 1>based on in intense situations. On the way she says

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<v Speaker 1>in Speed that they don't work out, that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>bad quote. Let's leave that way.

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<v Speaker 3>I already yeah, we're already planning trips to go to

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<v Speaker 3>peopful states and you know, have a little catch up

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<v Speaker 3>after the show, because yeah, I just can't let these

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<v Speaker 3>people go. We would just forget that I spent all

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<v Speaker 3>this time with them and we experienced things together. Definitely

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<v Speaker 3>be making an effort outside of the show to see these.

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<v Speaker 2>People for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about the way in which they

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<v Speaker 1>split the groups, because like back in the day, we

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<v Speaker 1>just had to do like a four hour episode. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm exaggerating because that's me. That's on brand for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But like you know, they would put everyone together and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone had to sing against each other. But we're splitting

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<v Speaker 1>people in a very different strategy. I would say, for

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<v Speaker 1>how the episodes rolled out on a Sunday on a Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you think that that affects the way in

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<v Speaker 1>which people go home? Or do you think it does?

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely think that, you know, having the two separate

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<v Speaker 3>heat does alter the overall public vote for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually didn't know that that's how it went. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that, Okay, I understand that there was Heat one

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<v Speaker 3>and Heat two, but I thought when it came down

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<v Speaker 3>to the voting that it was everyone overall together.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was actually surprise to me to find out that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was split into But well, definitely, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>has a lot to do with the results.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think it's interesting because like with the

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<v Speaker 1>way in which it happens, you get like a save

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<v Speaker 1>me song, but people have already been voting. How much

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that saved me song affect the way

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<v Speaker 1>in which the outcome was? Do you think that saved

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<v Speaker 1>me song factored in? Because in this situation, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love both of you girls like I I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been rooting for both of you, but it was very

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<v Speaker 1>clear to me that your song was better, which makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think, how much does that save me song factor?

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<v Speaker 2>In should be.

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<v Speaker 3>Completely straight up with you save me song has absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>no bearing on a decision that was already made before

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<v Speaker 3>we came out of the stage and saying that saved

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<v Speaker 3>me song. So I know it seems a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>like pointless in a way, like why would we do.

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<v Speaker 2>A save me song when it doesn't save you?

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<v Speaker 3>But I think if I look at it glass past four,

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<v Speaker 3>I was super proud of the performance that I put on,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was more so a second opportunity to show

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<v Speaker 3>my fans and the public what a great performer I am.

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<v Speaker 3>And that performance I feel like, will assistance follow.

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<v Speaker 2>Me of my journey outside of the Bible.

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<v Speaker 4>Had a role and you went away not you know

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<v Speaker 4>round no one.

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<v Speaker 1>Not know because it was one of your best performances.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I mean, you never did a bad performance,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ask me. Every single time we saw you

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<v Speaker 1>come out right from the start, like you know, Angel

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<v Speaker 1>of Mine. I think you know, God is a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I can't I can't remember them all

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<v Speaker 1>and figured me if you're not remembering them all, But

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<v Speaker 1>anytime you came out and sung something, I was like, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>this person really has it, Like thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I even knowing that song had no

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<v Speaker 3>bearing on the decision that was already made, I still

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<v Speaker 3>was going to go out there and give it one

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds and ten percent because again I knew it was

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<v Speaker 3>just another opportunity to show the public wide I should

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<v Speaker 3>support me outside of idle. And you know I was

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<v Speaker 3>saying this, but the gross I've made from audition up

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<v Speaker 3>until my last performance, it has been tremendous. I have

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<v Speaker 3>improved leaps and bounds, and I'm finding my confidence and

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<v Speaker 3>when being on stage, so going out every performance, find

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<v Speaker 3>myself getting more and more comfortable, more and more confident.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that was proof of last night's performance.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's just again another step up, another opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to perform. And yeah, I was in flight flight broad

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I still wanted to fight for that spot

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<v Speaker 3>and show people what it should have been me And hear.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're saying, but I honestly would say to you,

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<v Speaker 1>you are the type of artists that we will be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about in twenty years, Like you are not a

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<v Speaker 1>reality TV show artist. If you ask me I genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>think there's something very special, Like if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>a few of them that have been in IDOL over

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<v Speaker 1>the years that don't make it all the way through

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<v Speaker 1>the competition, but stay in the chart. That's who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in your bones, like every time you came out

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<v Speaker 1>and sound, feel that you're in your bones, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have enough that's saying yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I definitely, I definitely feel that. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously well, being so new to me, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh god, how am I going to go being on

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<v Speaker 3>camera and you know, sharing my whole personal life to

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<v Speaker 3>the world and playing with a live band the first

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<v Speaker 3>time of being on stage and having a spotlight, like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to deal with all that, and

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<v Speaker 3>to see how naturally it all came to me. It

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<v Speaker 3>comes down to as what you said, like it's in

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<v Speaker 3>my bones, within my DNA to do this. I'll hold

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<v Speaker 3>on to that for sure, and I'm definitely going to

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<v Speaker 3>keep going with music.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a crazy good candise.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you like a Matt Corby, because like

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Corby is of course an Australian IDOL, you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an alumni. Yeah, and you can't take that away

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<v Speaker 1>from any of the alumni, but in the same breath

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<v Speaker 1>of saying that he went on and transcended beyond it,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of where I see your trajectory going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, for sure, and I'll take.

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<v Speaker 3>Ricky leeas even a massive insortation for that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, obviously she didn't win either, but look at

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<v Speaker 3>what she's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>She's better, She's doing better than some of those winners.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just it's it's what I do with this

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<v Speaker 3>experience and platform that I've been given is going to

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<v Speaker 3>determine my fate moving forward, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you shocked by some of the Saves this week

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<v Speaker 1>because we've got Marshall and Elish and both of them

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<v Speaker 1>are amazing artists in themselves. I mean, it's almost a

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<v Speaker 1>personality story going on with them as well. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just a great voice. There's like a full something or

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<v Speaker 1>rather going on. Were you shocked by the choices in them?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you think that a large part of their

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<v Speaker 1>choices in keeping them there is because there is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more of a personality story going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually wholeheartedly agreed with the Saves, both Eilish and Marshall.

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<v Speaker 3>I know Marshall was in My Hate and Our Calum

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<v Speaker 3>on the bat and said, yeah, like so beal like

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<v Speaker 3>they should have picked you, Like he's something very special,

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<v Speaker 3>and so is Eilish. I think that performance that she

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<v Speaker 3>did the Top twelve was wildly good. I obviously understand

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<v Speaker 3>that having the full package is part of being a star.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't be a great performer.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, shit bricks when they were the camera in

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<v Speaker 3>front of you, doesn't you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk a bit of gray hand in hand.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that both Marshall and Eilish are phenomenal

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<v Speaker 3>on an off camera and I don't actually don't think

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<v Speaker 3>that their stories or anything had any bearing on them

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<v Speaker 3>making it through. I wholeheartedly can say that the performance

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<v Speaker 3>is that they put.

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<v Speaker 2>On all well deserved to be pushed through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Top ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there were some moments in Eilish's song where

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<v Speaker 1>I was like that that's a choice to how like

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<v Speaker 1>that in a song that it really worked. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm it really works. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I love seeing Eilish come alive, like she's so sweet,

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<v Speaker 3>she's such a cute opportunity off the camera and on camera,

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<v Speaker 3>and then she just her alter ego takes over when

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<v Speaker 3>she gets on stage, and I feel really proud of her,

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<v Speaker 3>like her young girl to do what she's doing, like

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<v Speaker 3>like she deserves that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she gonna make it though? Like it? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>could she be the person? Because I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the artists that have survived in Australia, like

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<v Speaker 1>Kylie Minogue will tell you the historian, there's tenacity and

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<v Speaker 1>there's talent, and Kylie talked about the tenacity of being

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<v Speaker 1>able to ring people, put tracks down and never give up.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a large part of being a successful artist is

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<v Speaker 1>not winning a reality competition or is not having a

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<v Speaker 1>number one single. Is the phone calls that you make

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<v Speaker 1>off the back of that. I mean there's something in

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<v Speaker 1>this figure as well, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you want to put that work in? Can I

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<v Speaker 1>lash do that? I mean, is she going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to pick up those calls and fight for it?

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<v Speaker 3>I think if I was telling the right team behind her.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously she's quite young, you know, she's probably wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 3>know what direction what road to take, you know, So

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<v Speaker 3>I think if she's got the right team behind her,

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<v Speaker 3>because there's definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>An audience for her out there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they love her.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it is justinitely an audience.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think being so young, she wouldn't even have

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<v Speaker 3>a clue what direction to go. So I think with

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<v Speaker 3>the right team behind her, she could do really, really

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<v Speaker 3>great things.

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<v Speaker 2>She's phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>And the last thing I was going to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>about in regards to this competition was about the song choices.

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<v Speaker 1>The song choices for me are really interesting. So these

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<v Speaker 1>the songs that you would put out, is this the

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<v Speaker 1>artist that you are? Were you happy with the way

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<v Speaker 1>in which you could choose these songs or are these

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<v Speaker 1>songs kind of attributed to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Good question, So I would say that, yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 3>say my picks that I've done on the show are

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<v Speaker 3>a very good representation of maybe half of the artist

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<v Speaker 3>that I am. I am sing the show really wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of tap into that old school ninetieth R

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<v Speaker 3>and B vibe, which is absolutely part of me.

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<v Speaker 1>That is like, that is still a part of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's on my playlist. That's what I'm Jemmy in

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<v Speaker 2>a card to his old school R and B.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I grew up around my parents from lasting

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<v Speaker 3>two back and stuff on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely my vibe. I feel like there was my other

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<v Speaker 3>more modern R and B that I would have probably

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<v Speaker 3>loved to show.

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<v Speaker 2>A bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>I did gul a taste of that when I got

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<v Speaker 3>in the Weekend pull out my Name, So that was

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<v Speaker 3>really fun when I did that song. But I definitely

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<v Speaker 3>probably would have loved to showcase my other R and

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<v Speaker 3>B side, the more modern R and B side, because

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<v Speaker 3>I do both.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you do. I mean I think that call

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<v Speaker 1>out my Name by the Weekend, I think is when

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<v Speaker 1>you transcended with the audience. And I think that there

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<v Speaker 1>is something about singing something current. You know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to work twice as hard on an older song because

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<v Speaker 1>for starters, sending office time after time is such an

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<v Speaker 1>iconic song. We are attributing how that song sounds that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and that doesn't a use song. It in some ways

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<v Speaker 1>better than she ever did. But that's a really hard

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<v Speaker 1>space to be in, do you know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really hard space when you're working with older

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<v Speaker 1>tracks versus stuff that's very you know now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And you're gonna upset someone out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna upset someone when you put your flip on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I respect that, and you know, I try to

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<v Speaker 3>respect the integrity of the song as much as possible,

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<v Speaker 3>but faking it my own as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's those old school classics that people have loved over

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<v Speaker 3>the years and got used to the way that that sounds.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you put your own little pin on it,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes it's not received well. But I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>that had a bearing on my outcome. So I can

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<v Speaker 3>look back at my performance and I personally think that

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<v Speaker 3>I did a really good job and that that was

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<v Speaker 3>one of my best performances. I'm just every week coming

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<v Speaker 3>more and more out of my shell and feeling more

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<v Speaker 3>and more comfortable on that stage.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, I helped you mat of.

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<v Speaker 3>The broken place you gave me.

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<v Speaker 6>For you.

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<v Speaker 4>List a boot you won't up, A boot.

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<v Speaker 7>You won't up.

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<v Speaker 6>I claims, you're so proud and no.

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<v Speaker 1>To come in.

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<v Speaker 7>I kid you, so tell me want I pt you.

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<v Speaker 7>I want it, OK, I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. I'm just gonna tell you right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in your audience. I think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people watch the show that are in your audience, Like

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<v Speaker 1>this is just the start. This is like a jumping

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<v Speaker 1>off point this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like you, Oh, thank you so much. That means

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<v Speaker 2>the world. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like going to the pool and not wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>dive in, but then just taking a small dive and

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<v Speaker 1>then at the end winning, Yeah, picks. That's the vision board.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where we're going. You know, before I let you go,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to ask you this question, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>I ask everyone who runs the podcast, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>something of what is a behind the scenes moment? And

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<v Speaker 1>is it really hard to do with these behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes moment of what you're allowed to say? But is

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<v Speaker 1>there What I'm interested in asking you is when you

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<v Speaker 1>look back at this experience, what do you think is

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<v Speaker 1>the moment? Like we all look back at experiences, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's high school, a job that we've had, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a moment that we go that's sort of what we remember.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think in ears to come that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>look back at and think that was my idle experience

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<v Speaker 1>sort of summed up at that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I think the goal of a ticket moment for

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<v Speaker 3>me was such such a shot. I really did not

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<v Speaker 3>think that I was going to get through, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was almost like that validation that I needed. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>that was the beginning of that self doubt slowly fading away.

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<v Speaker 3>From that day, that self doubt just slowly started fading

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<v Speaker 3>and I became more and more. I came into myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I found myself, you know. But that moment was the

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<v Speaker 3>start of finding myself. So I'll hold on to that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for sure. And having having all three judgers

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<v Speaker 3>give me yesters and also walk out to come and

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<v Speaker 3>tell my family and friends that I got three yesters

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<v Speaker 3>like that was a standout moment for me as well,

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't get up out of their seeks to

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<v Speaker 3>walk out with every contestant, so that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Very, very near and dear to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, okay, I've impacted them in a

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<v Speaker 3>way that I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Even imagine, Like it's happening. Yeah, it's happening. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>who unfold baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Girls. I just want to say thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for being so generous and talking to me today. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I really have enjoyed watching you on this show. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you've done such a fantastic job. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see what you do with this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be quite exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you so much. The pleasure talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your kind words, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Your HiPE girl. Just call me when if you wake

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<v Speaker 1>up any day of the week, any day of the

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<v Speaker 1>week and you're having a bad day, slide into the

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<v Speaker 1>DMS and I'm just like, whoop, whoop ah.

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<v Speaker 2>My head's my head's so big. After the conversation, how dare.

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<v Speaker 1>You What a fabulous chat I had with a liar?

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<v Speaker 1>Some really good insights there, I'm sure. Now we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to unpack the Australian Idol journey with Mazuki, who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure is going to also have some pretty exciting

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<v Speaker 1>tales to tell. Hi.

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<v Speaker 5>Ben, how's it going.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good mate, how are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Good?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you congratulations on making it into the Australian Idol

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<v Speaker 1>Top twelve. I don't think it would be the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing if it wasn't for your contribution. I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to say that, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really sweet. I really appreciate that. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a really hard thing as an artist to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to sing the sort of music that you sing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to say that because I'm in awe

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<v Speaker 1>of anyone that can speak that fast, let alone wrap

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<v Speaker 1>that fast. And even try and find your breath. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my life, they told me that awarded. She can't sing.

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<v Speaker 5>We hate rap.

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<v Speaker 4>Katrine's talk big, don't shine, don't speak Your better shrink

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<v Speaker 4>is she's talking on the mic like she's not even singing.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 7>Where to tell?

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<v Speaker 3>Then?

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the accident.

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<v Speaker 7>Who let the tall ben?

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<v Speaker 1>How does she get in?

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<v Speaker 3>I hate rapping, just hate the same believe.

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<v Speaker 7>In the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>What's an age were you when you realize that you

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<v Speaker 1>could do something like this?

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<v Speaker 5>That wasn't even my fastest rapping that was honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh they turned you down?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, do a lot more than that. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very grateful for the comment.

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<v Speaker 5>Just a long time of practice and dedication to the craft.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, I mean, it's such a huge accomplishment to get

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<v Speaker 1>onto a show like this. Are you Are you still

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<v Speaker 1>processing the whole experience because that was a live episode

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<v Speaker 1>last night. That's very hard to do live TV because

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<v Speaker 1>then you're processing everything in real time with the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of Australia. What is your head doing today, my friend?

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<v Speaker 5>I know it definitely was a big shot to the

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<v Speaker 5>system for sure, but you know, I'm very grateful for

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<v Speaker 5>what I've done I'm proud of being able to be

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<v Speaker 5>the first person globally to crack the top twelve without

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<v Speaker 5>seeing a single note and being able to showcase wrap

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<v Speaker 5>deserve the place, and just showcase diverse voices and diverse genres.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what did you think of this experience in

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<v Speaker 1>this in the sense of, like what you thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be? Like, you're a very soulful person,

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<v Speaker 1>You're a very like what's the best way to describe it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're connected to the universe in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>I think other people are not. And so when you

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<v Speaker 1>are connected to the universe the way that you are,

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<v Speaker 1>did you have a feeling of how this would all go?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great point.

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<v Speaker 5>I definitely was guided to come onto the show how

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<v Speaker 5>it was going to play out. I wasn't really concerned about.

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<v Speaker 5>I knew that I was being guided to apply and

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<v Speaker 5>I was guided to do what I've done. So how

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<v Speaker 5>the kind of cards fall isn't really up to me.

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<v Speaker 5>It's more so about me just doing what I'm told

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<v Speaker 5>to do. And I think I've said what I needed

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<v Speaker 5>to say, and I think it's just the beginning and

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<v Speaker 5>then maybe like a ripple effect beyond what I've done

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<v Speaker 5>so far on the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because, like you know, if you're reading cards,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're doing that kind of stuff, it's one power,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you've also got this music power. Do these

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<v Speaker 1>two coexist in a weird way?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? Are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you bring those as soon as we saw you,

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<v Speaker 1>when we saw your story? These are the questions that

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to know. I'm like, do these go hand

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<v Speaker 1>in hand in some way?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think that my spiritual journey and my

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<v Speaker 5>musical journey are inextricably linked, and that as I grow

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<v Speaker 5>as an artist, and as I grow spiritually, I grow

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<v Speaker 5>as an artist, and as I grow as an artists

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<v Speaker 5>need to reach more people with my message. And I

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<v Speaker 5>think the two are very linked. And I'm teen to

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<v Speaker 5>see how it continues to play out.

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<v Speaker 1>And like, I know a lot of people that are

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>in that sphere, and they talk about not necessarily knowing

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 1>or predicting or understanding their own journey where that's going

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:18.639
<v Speaker 1>to go, but then they can do it with other people.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's true. Did you meet the top twelve the

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<v Speaker 1>other eleven? And are you do you have an idea

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<v Speaker 1>where you think this is going to go? That's what

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, look, I do have an idea of where I

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<v Speaker 5>do like where I do think it's going to go

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of the competition, but I'll keep that word

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<v Speaker 5>on the hush.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to look at this article. By the way,

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>there's an article that was out yesterday. I don't want

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to click on it because I do not want anything

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to take away from my idle journey. There was an article, yes,

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.400
<v Speaker 1>so it says the winner is basically revealed, and I

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, this is a live TV show, no one

0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>knows anything. People could fall down, you know, fall off

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:53.679
<v Speaker 1>the stage and knock the two front teeth out, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know who's going to win.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, definitely, No, I haven't actually seen that article.

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 5>That's that's the curious one. But honestly, I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>beyond who wins or you know, how it kind of

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:09.640
<v Speaker 5>plays out. I think we've had such an amazing group

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 5>of talent this year, so I'm excited for everyone's individual journeys.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, it's interesting as well about this show. It's a

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>very tough job to sign up and be a judge.

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 1>To be on that panel, I think would be very

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<v Speaker 1>hard because They've got a very tough job to do.

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:26.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't just turn up and be like

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>that was beautiful, do you know what I mean? You

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>need to have some criticism, You need to have some

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:34.600
<v Speaker 1>color in what you're offering these young people. What was

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>your relationship with Kyle Sandalans, Marsha Hines and Amy Shark,

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<v Speaker 1>Like do you think that they're doing a great job

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and do you think that they represent sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>faces or the powers that be that need to be

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<v Speaker 1>offering criticism.

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, I've loved my interaction with the judges. I think

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.479
<v Speaker 5>the judges know what they're talking about. I think that

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 5>they can see they know, they know about the music industry,

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 5>and they can see like what is going on. So

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 5>I think they are a good panel. Amy obviously, she's

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 5>killing it in her own field, and she's like current

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:10.679
<v Speaker 5>touring musician who's like doing such amazing thing, so she

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 5>kind of understands what it takes to be in the

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 5>music industry. And speaking with her has been really great

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 5>just because I think she gets me sort of level

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 5>of life. And then Marsha is so needed. She's an

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 5>absolute legend, and I think she's like even to have

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 5>like this powerful like woman black woman as well, who's

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 5>just been in the industry for so many years, and

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 5>I think she stands by herself in that lane where

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 5>we don't really have any other black women that are,

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, in that sort of position. So she's just

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 5>a testament and an inspiration, honestly, I think. So she's

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 5>very powerful to have up there. And then Kyle as well,

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.120
<v Speaker 5>he's right there with the times. You know, he's got

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 5>his on the radio. He's in touch with what's happening

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 5>and what the current trends are. And I think that's why,

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:57.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, I've gotten a lot of support from him,

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 5>because he is in touch with the culture globally with

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:05.400
<v Speaker 5>music and you know, like you know, wrap and hip

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 5>hop and R and B, and he gets it. So

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 5>it's good to just have someone who just gets it

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 5>so you don't have to kind of like explain yourself.

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 5>It's like you just understand what you're doing and can

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:17.679
<v Speaker 5>see how that's going to play out on like the

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 5>world stage and globally. So it's great to have him

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 5>there and have your support as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They all sort of represent different things as well, like

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're being given sort of some lessons, some

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>guided lessons throughout what they've been able to offer you.

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>There was a few times where they talked about people

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<v Speaker 1>saying negative things online.

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<v Speaker 6>I loved it as well. And guess what, I know

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:43.360
<v Speaker 6>a little bit about having haters. Yeah, yes, I do.

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 6>You know what. I enjoyed that you you use that

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 6>hate and you did a little rap about it. But

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 6>this is what I was told years and years ago

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 6>because I used to obsess over the haters. Why don't

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 6>they love me? I can't understand it. I really couldn't

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.919
<v Speaker 6>understand it. They don't get me. Do they have been

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.959
<v Speaker 6>listen to even know what I do? And then I realized, Oh,

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 6>they're just winkers at home that have got nothing better

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 6>to do. Because I thought, who wouldn't have haters?

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:14.400
<v Speaker 6>Who are three people that might not have haters? Jesus,

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 6>Beyonce and Ronald McDonald. Guess what, there's multiple hate sites

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 6>about all those three people. So you have to be

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 6>a hated and loved to be anything that anyone even notices. Well,

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 6>so take that and ride with it. You did an

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 6>amazing dress.

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.439
<v Speaker 1>You know, to me, you don't really strike me as

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the sort of person that's going to read the comment

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 1>section or let something like that bother you. But what

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>is your relationship with Australian Idol being Like, considering that

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you do get people commenting, you do get people saying

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 1>their opinions online, how did that affect your Idle journey?

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<v Speaker 5>I think to comment, like, there's been so much overwhelming support,

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 5>and I'll start there, like, I've been so grateful for

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 5>the amount of people who have directly reached out, just

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.640
<v Speaker 5>supporting and encouraging me and being so happy to see

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 5>something different on the idol stage. And teach who work

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 5>with kids who don't necessarily resonate with idle and like

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 5>the regular idle format, but the kids who would like

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 5>resonated with Wrap and they're like, that's actually cool. I

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 5>can get behind that. So that was really cool that

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm impacting people who aren't necessarily the demographic of Idle viewers.

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 5>But then it's also very also disheartening to read some

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 5>of those, especially on Facebook a lot of the comments,

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 5>and there just seems to be this kind of underlying

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 5>just with the older generation, of underlying kind of like

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:37.680
<v Speaker 5>slight racism and sexism that's there, and that's quite sad

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 5>to see.

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think maybe that's also not your platform as well.

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Like Facebook's kind of like a weird place, right, been

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>around for a long time, telling people that are left

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>there are these weird boomers that are like right, right,

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and they don't represent the wider community. They're the minority.

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>The minority is in Facebook now, and I would hope

0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to believe the minority are the sorts of people that

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>have a picture of a crow or a cat and

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>jump online and have something to say about a young,

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>beautiful artist like you.

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.959
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, definitely, And I think, you know, I've been

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 5>guided into this space and I think, you know, me

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 5>showing up in my full authenticity and not hiding myself

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 5>and just being who I am, and you know, being

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 5>put into these people's faces is also powerful because it

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 5>needs to be known that, you know, Australia, we're a

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 5>diverse community. And I mean, I'm second generation Australian, but

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 5>we're a diverse community, and there's different voices that also

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 5>need to be in these mainstream spaces. And you know,

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 5>if I can be that person to inspire the kids

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 5>that look like me who don't necessarily get to see

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 5>that celebrated as much, I mean, that's just powerful in itself,

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 5>and you know, being able to speak my truth on

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 5>that world like for that idle stage is just really powerful.

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 5>And I hope that it shifts the culture forward to

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 5>towards more acceptance of diverse voices, more celebration of diverse

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 5>talent as well, especially women, you know, just building each

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 5>other up.

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I could imagine you going to schools and singing and performing.

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I honestly think you have a lot to offer young

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>people in your learnings and your findings. I think there's

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>something in that. I mean, yes, a music artist you know,

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>would love to sell out arenas, but I genuinely think

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>that there's something a little deeper than you that's also

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>very inspiring. And your ability to use your voice and

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>articulate yourself is quite amazing, and young people need that.

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Young people need to feel inspired and to see that

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>they can do it.

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 5>And I think there's been so many people and people

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 5>have even interacted with in person, who have said, you know,

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 5>that they've stopped pursuing their dreams because people like bullied

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 5>them in high school and like they wanted to be

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 5>a singer, and they post that then people would pick

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 5>on them and say that they stuck, you know, and

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 5>like really bully them, and that literally talked them out

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 5>of them pursuing that as of air dream. And I

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 5>think that that's really disheartening. But also it's important to

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 5>have voices that amplify hey, follow your dreams despite no

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 5>matter what other people think of that, and just stand

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 5>in your power and stay true to yourself in whatever

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 5>space that you want to pursue, no matter what that is.

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. You know, when you are in a

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>bottom two scenario and we sort of bottom falls scenario technically,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>but you're in a subsection of the bottom two, do

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you feel in that moment like you know what the

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>outcome is going to be. That's what I always think.

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know how it was going to go. I

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 5>think once I was up there with Jisella, I was like, okay,

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 5>I know that. I mean the bottom two, Like it's like,

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, I was just like, girl, you are so

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 5>undeniably going through and so undeniably talented. I mean the

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 5>whole thing. I didn't think that that was how going

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 5>to go.

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 3>So it was a bit shocking for me to kind

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 3>of process everything.

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 5>But I think that it's gone how it was meant

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 5>to go, And you know, I've done what I was

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 5>meant to do on the show. You know, if I

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 5>would guided to just come out there and you know,

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 5>crack Top twelve, get to you know, write my own

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 5>wrap and flip that negativity into positivity and inspire people.

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 5>I think that's my job done well.

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's lots of spaces and places that

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>you're going to find yourself in, you know, with an

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>open heart and open mind and a brilliant singing voice,

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>like I think, you know, it's up to you where

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to take this.

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 5>Yes, one hundred percent. Now, there's definitely somewhere else that

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm being guided towards. So I'm going to continue on

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 5>the journey and trust that path.

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Well before you go. The last thing I ask everyone

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>is what is something from behind the scenes? And I

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>was wondering for you behind the scenes question is how

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the hell do you manage to get a good pop

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>song and put your own words into it? What is

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the process like in being able to work faster? These

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>other artists are just singing a song that you know,

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>some of them have been around for a very long time.

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Where you're remastering, which is very clever, you know, are

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you in that room longer with the coaches trying to

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>work out how to do it.

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm definitely doing it by myself. I've been songwriting and

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 5>producing and you know, rapping, singing, I play guitar, like,

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 5>I've been an artist for a long time, so I'm

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 5>like a very seasoned artist. So that was kind of

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 5>effortless to me, Like I mean that, laughs up. I

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 5>think I channeled down and wrote in like five or

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 5>ten minutes. So it just comes down to that's just

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 5>who I am as an artist, and I got to

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm grateful that I got to showcase a little bit

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 5>of my artistry. I think that's also something that I

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 5>was there to do was to change hearts in mind

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 5>as opposed to.

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Win the show.

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 5>It's more so, okay, let me showcase wing change for

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 5>some halfs of minded people who are never going to

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 5>see someone like me other than me being on the

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 5>show for them, you know.

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>And beyond of course, yeah, it's the there's something more.

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>There's a higher power to you, I think, And I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say thank you for being so generous

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<v Speaker 1>and unpacking your idle journey with me this morning, because

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<v Speaker 1>I have really enjoyed watching you on the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see what you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>with this. You know, I think that there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of opportunity there for you. But but yeah, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much.

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<v Speaker 5>It's such such a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been actually so beautiful to chat with you.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been it really great, was really great, decent passion session.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's what I want. I'm like, But what a

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<v Speaker 1>joy that I even am allowed to do this with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was last night on my couch screaming

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<v Speaker 1>and yelling at Austrayan Idol and then now I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you today. It is quite amazing. It's quite amazing

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<v Speaker 1>for me because I'm in your audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, it's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been an absolute pleasure to chat with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Cheers by