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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
Speaker 1: thank you for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with
Speaker 1: Mazuki Alia, the first two eliminated booted contestants from Australian
Speaker 1: Idol's Top twelve. The competition is really heating up and
Speaker 1: after a nail biting first week of performances, it was
Speaker 1: Anyone's guest on who was going to be sent home.
Speaker 1: I genuinely think both of these girls have something really
Speaker 1: special and I know that you're going to hear that.
Speaker 1: In my chat today, Mazuki will talk about the online
Speaker 1: trolling and how that affected her time on the show.
Speaker 1: Alia will share how the songs were picked and what
Speaker 1: producers wanted her to lean into. I find out about
Speaker 1: the dynamics between this year's Top twelve and what the
Speaker 1: girls think of the friendship that they now have with
Speaker 1: the remaining artists left in the competition. You will get
Speaker 1: everything from their thoughts on the judges, if the remaining
Speaker 1: artists have the tenacity to match their talent, and what
Speaker 1: part of the singing competition that doesn't count. But leaves
Speaker 1: the audiences knowing what they're missing. There is actually so
Speaker 1: much to talk about, with so many inside revelations as
Speaker 1: per usual, So sit back and relax as we unpack
Speaker 1: the wonderful world of austrain Idol, which returns this Sunday
Speaker 1: night on Channel seven.
Speaker 2: Oh hi Van, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? Have you been to bed? Live? TV is
Speaker 1: a bitch?
Speaker 2: Oh, isn't it? Isn't it?
Speaker 3: No, I'm surprisingly doing quite well considering the outcome.
Speaker 2: My head's pretty highest steels.
Speaker 1: Congratulations though, And can I just say I have learnt
Speaker 1: from you from watching you and your humble nature, your empathy,
Speaker 1: your kindness. I just think, and I'm forty five and
Speaker 1: so we're always learning. But I just thought, yeah, dled
Speaker 1: that so well?
Speaker 2: Oh thank you? No, that means a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look I again, like I have to look around
Speaker 3: the room and see who I'm up against. And yeah,
Speaker 3: like someone had to go home. Unfortunately it was me,
Speaker 3: But I can happily look at top ten and go and.
Speaker 2: Every one of them deserve that spot. Well.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that my partner was still working
Speaker 1: last night as the live episode was happening, and I
Speaker 1: watched Australian idol, like people watch the Super Bowl a
Speaker 1: lot of screaming, a lot of yelling, and he heard
Speaker 1: both songs and he said to me, oh, well, you
Speaker 1: clearly know who's going to win out of those two girls.
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, you don't know. You don't
Speaker 1: know anyway, you don't know.
Speaker 2: Not with the public society, and you really never know.
Speaker 1: It was shocking. I'm shocked.
Speaker 3: No. I appreciate that, thank you, and that support things
Speaker 3: means a lot, means you for something in me, So
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 1: It's so strange because this particular season, it looks like
Speaker 1: there's a bit of a genuine bond going on with everyone.
Speaker 1: Is that manufactured for television or were you all getting
Speaker 1: along like a house on fire?
Speaker 3: I love this lot off camera, like I have a
Speaker 3: genuine connection to these people.
Speaker 2: You know, we have all bonded so quickly.
Speaker 3: I was so fine with the verdict, like not fine,
Speaker 3: but I mean excepted my fate being eliminated, and I
Speaker 3: had I walked off, you know, with my head held high,
Speaker 3: proud of what I had done out there, and I
Speaker 3: kept it together until I walked into the room full
Speaker 3: of the contestants. The minute I saw all their faces
Speaker 3: was just the silence was loud. Everyone just stopped talking
Speaker 3: and we had a little group cuddle. It was that
Speaker 3: moment that I saw them and I realized, damn, like,
Speaker 3: I don't get to see you guys and spend time
Speaker 3: with you guys anymore. That really hit me and the
Speaker 3: water work started from there. So it is a genuine
Speaker 3: connection with these lots.
Speaker 1: It's like the movie Speed where Sandra Bullock says relationships
Speaker 1: based on in intense situations. On the way she says
Speaker 1: in Speed that they don't work out, that's that's a
Speaker 1: bad quote. Let's leave that way.
Speaker 3: I already yeah, we're already planning trips to go to
Speaker 3: peopful states and you know, have a little catch up
Speaker 3: after the show, because yeah, I just can't let these
Speaker 3: people go. We would just forget that I spent all
Speaker 3: this time with them and we experienced things together. Definitely
Speaker 3: be making an effort outside of the show to see these.
Speaker 2: People for sure.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the way in which they
Speaker 1: split the groups, because like back in the day, we
Speaker 1: just had to do like a four hour episode. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating because that's me. That's on brand for me.
Speaker 1: But like you know, they would put everyone together and
Speaker 1: everyone had to sing against each other. But we're splitting
Speaker 1: people in a very different strategy. I would say, for
Speaker 1: how the episodes rolled out on a Sunday on a Tuesday,
Speaker 1: how do you think that that affects the way in
Speaker 1: which people go home? Or do you think it does?
Speaker 3: I definitely think that, you know, having the two separate
Speaker 3: heat does alter the overall public vote for sure.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 3: I actually didn't know that that's how it went. I
Speaker 3: thought that, Okay, I understand that there was Heat one
Speaker 3: and Heat two, but I thought when it came down
Speaker 3: to the voting that it was everyone overall together.
Speaker 2: So that was actually surprise to me to find out that.
Speaker 3: It was split into But well, definitely, I think that
Speaker 3: has a lot to do with the results.
Speaker 1: And I also think it's interesting because like with the
Speaker 1: way in which it happens, you get like a save
Speaker 1: me song, but people have already been voting. How much
Speaker 1: do you think that saved me song affect the way
Speaker 1: in which the outcome was? Do you think that saved
Speaker 1: me song factored in? Because in this situation, and I
Speaker 1: love both of you girls like I I mean, I've
Speaker 1: been rooting for both of you, but it was very
Speaker 1: clear to me that your song was better, which makes
Speaker 1: me think, how much does that save me song factor?
Speaker 2: In should be.
Speaker 3: Completely straight up with you save me song has absolutely
Speaker 3: no bearing on a decision that was already made before
Speaker 3: we came out of the stage and saying that saved
Speaker 3: me song. So I know it seems a little bit
Speaker 3: like pointless in a way, like why would we do.
Speaker 2: A save me song when it doesn't save you?
Speaker 3: But I think if I look at it glass past four,
Speaker 3: I was super proud of the performance that I put on,
Speaker 3: and it was more so a second opportunity to show
Speaker 3: my fans and the public what a great performer I am.
Speaker 3: And that performance I feel like, will assistance follow.
Speaker 2: Me of my journey outside of the Bible.
Speaker 4: Had a role and you went away not you know
Speaker 4: round no one.
Speaker 1: Not know because it was one of your best performances.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I mean, you never did a bad performance,
Speaker 1: if you ask me. Every single time we saw you
Speaker 1: come out right from the start, like you know, Angel
Speaker 1: of Mine. I think you know, God is a woman.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't I can't remember them all
Speaker 1: and figured me if you're not remembering them all, But
Speaker 1: anytime you came out and sung something, I was like, shit,
Speaker 1: this person really has it, Like thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I even knowing that song had no
Speaker 3: bearing on the decision that was already made, I still
Speaker 3: was going to go out there and give it one
Speaker 3: hundreds and ten percent because again I knew it was
Speaker 3: just another opportunity to show the public wide I should
Speaker 3: support me outside of idle. And you know I was
Speaker 3: saying this, but the gross I've made from audition up
Speaker 3: until my last performance, it has been tremendous. I have
Speaker 3: improved leaps and bounds, and I'm finding my confidence and
Speaker 3: when being on stage, so going out every performance, find
Speaker 3: myself getting more and more comfortable, more and more confident.
Speaker 3: And I think that was proof of last night's performance.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just again another step up, another opportunity
Speaker 3: to perform. And yeah, I was in flight flight broad
Speaker 3: you know, I still wanted to fight for that spot
Speaker 3: and show people what it should have been me And hear.
Speaker 1: What you're saying, but I honestly would say to you,
Speaker 1: you are the type of artists that we will be
Speaker 1: talking about in twenty years, Like you are not a
Speaker 1: reality TV show artist. If you ask me I genuinely
Speaker 1: think there's something very special, Like if you look at
Speaker 1: a few of them that have been in IDOL over
Speaker 1: the years that don't make it all the way through
Speaker 1: the competition, but stay in the chart. That's who you are.
Speaker 1: You're in your bones, like every time you came out
Speaker 1: and sound, feel that you're in your bones, Like I
Speaker 1: don't have enough that's saying yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I definitely, I definitely feel that. You know,
Speaker 3: obviously well, being so new to me, I was like,
Speaker 3: oh god, how am I going to go being on
Speaker 3: camera and you know, sharing my whole personal life to
Speaker 3: the world and playing with a live band the first
Speaker 3: time of being on stage and having a spotlight, like
Speaker 3: I don't know how to deal with all that, and
Speaker 3: to see how naturally it all came to me. It
Speaker 3: comes down to as what you said, like it's in
Speaker 3: my bones, within my DNA to do this. I'll hold
Speaker 3: on to that for sure, and I'm definitely going to
Speaker 3: keep going with music.
Speaker 2: I've got a crazy good candise.
Speaker 1: I think if you like a Matt Corby, because like
Speaker 1: Matt Corby is of course an Australian IDOL, you know, yes,
Speaker 1: he's an alumni. Yeah, and you can't take that away
Speaker 1: from any of the alumni, but in the same breath
Speaker 1: of saying that he went on and transcended beyond it,
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I see your trajectory going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure, and I'll take.
Speaker 3: Ricky leeas even a massive insortation for that as well.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously she didn't win either, but look at
Speaker 3: what she's doing.
Speaker 2: She's better, She's doing better than some of those winners.
Speaker 3: So it's just it's it's what I do with this
Speaker 3: experience and platform that I've been given is going to
Speaker 3: determine my fate moving forward, for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, you shocked by some of the Saves this week
Speaker 1: because we've got Marshall and Elish and both of them
Speaker 1: are amazing artists in themselves. I mean, it's almost a
Speaker 1: personality story going on with them as well. It's not
Speaker 1: just a great voice. There's like a full something or
Speaker 1: rather going on. Were you shocked by the choices in them?
Speaker 1: And do you think that a large part of their
Speaker 1: choices in keeping them there is because there is a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a personality story going on.
Speaker 3: I actually wholeheartedly agreed with the Saves, both Eilish and Marshall.
Speaker 3: I know Marshall was in My Hate and Our Calum
Speaker 3: on the bat and said, yeah, like so beal like
Speaker 3: they should have picked you, Like he's something very special,
Speaker 3: and so is Eilish. I think that performance that she
Speaker 3: did the Top twelve was wildly good. I obviously understand
Speaker 3: that having the full package is part of being a star.
Speaker 2: You can't be a great performer.
Speaker 3: I mean, shit bricks when they were the camera in
Speaker 3: front of you, doesn't you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Talk a bit of gray hand in hand.
Speaker 3: And I think that both Marshall and Eilish are phenomenal
Speaker 3: on an off camera and I don't actually don't think
Speaker 3: that their stories or anything had any bearing on them
Speaker 3: making it through. I wholeheartedly can say that the performance
Speaker 3: is that they put.
Speaker 2: On all well deserved to be pushed through.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Top ten.
Speaker 1: I mean there were some moments in Eilish's song where
Speaker 1: I was like that that's a choice to how like
Speaker 1: that in a song that it really worked. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm it really works. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love seeing Eilish come alive, like she's so sweet,
Speaker 3: she's such a cute opportunity off the camera and on camera,
Speaker 3: and then she just her alter ego takes over when
Speaker 3: she gets on stage, and I feel really proud of her,
Speaker 3: like her young girl to do what she's doing, like
Speaker 3: like she deserves that.
Speaker 1: Is she gonna make it though? Like it? I mean
Speaker 1: could she be the person? Because I mean, if you
Speaker 1: look at the artists that have survived in Australia, like
Speaker 1: Kylie Minogue will tell you the historian, there's tenacity and
Speaker 1: there's talent, and Kylie talked about the tenacity of being
Speaker 1: able to ring people, put tracks down and never give up.
Speaker 1: Like a large part of being a successful artist is
Speaker 1: not winning a reality competition or is not having a
Speaker 1: number one single. Is the phone calls that you make
Speaker 1: off the back of that. I mean there's something in
Speaker 1: this figure as well, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you want to put that work in? Can I
Speaker 1: lash do that? I mean, is she going to be
Speaker 1: able to pick up those calls and fight for it?
Speaker 3: I think if I was telling the right team behind her.
Speaker 3: Obviously she's quite young, you know, she's probably wouldn't even
Speaker 3: know what direction what road to take, you know, So
Speaker 3: I think if she's got the right team behind her,
Speaker 3: because there's definitely.
Speaker 2: An audience for her out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they love her.
Speaker 2: You know, it is justinitely an audience.
Speaker 3: But I think being so young, she wouldn't even have
Speaker 3: a clue what direction to go. So I think with
Speaker 3: the right team behind her, she could do really, really
Speaker 3: great things.
Speaker 2: She's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: And the last thing I was going to ask you
Speaker 1: about in regards to this competition was about the song choices.
Speaker 1: The song choices for me are really interesting. So these
Speaker 1: the songs that you would put out, is this the
Speaker 1: artist that you are? Were you happy with the way
Speaker 1: in which you could choose these songs or are these
Speaker 1: songs kind of attributed to you?
Speaker 3: Good question, So I would say that, yeah, I would
Speaker 3: say my picks that I've done on the show are
Speaker 3: a very good representation of maybe half of the artist
Speaker 3: that I am. I am sing the show really wanted
Speaker 3: to sort of tap into that old school ninetieth R
Speaker 3: and B vibe, which is absolutely part of me.
Speaker 1: That is like, that is still a part of you.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's on my playlist. That's what I'm Jemmy in
Speaker 2: a card to his old school R and B.
Speaker 3: That's what I grew up around my parents from lasting
Speaker 3: two back and stuff on the weekend.
Speaker 2: So that is.
Speaker 3: Absolutely my vibe. I feel like there was my other
Speaker 3: more modern R and B that I would have probably
Speaker 3: loved to show.
Speaker 2: A bit more.
Speaker 3: I did gul a taste of that when I got
Speaker 3: in the Weekend pull out my Name, So that was
Speaker 3: really fun when I did that song. But I definitely
Speaker 3: probably would have loved to showcase my other R and
Speaker 3: B side, the more modern R and B side, because
Speaker 3: I do both.
Speaker 1: Of course you do. I mean I think that call
Speaker 1: out my Name by the Weekend, I think is when
Speaker 1: you transcended with the audience. And I think that there
Speaker 1: is something about singing something current. You know, you have
Speaker 1: to work twice as hard on an older song because
Speaker 1: for starters, sending office time after time is such an
Speaker 1: iconic song. We are attributing how that song sounds that way,
Speaker 1: and that doesn't a use song. It in some ways
Speaker 1: better than she ever did. But that's a really hard
Speaker 1: space to be in, do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: that's a really hard space when you're working with older
Speaker 1: tracks versus stuff that's very you know now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you're gonna upset someone out there.
Speaker 2: You're gonna upset someone when you put your flip on it.
Speaker 3: And I respect that, and you know, I try to
Speaker 3: respect the integrity of the song as much as possible,
Speaker 3: but faking it my own as well.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 3: It's those old school classics that people have loved over
Speaker 3: the years and got used to the way that that sounds.
Speaker 3: So when you put your own little pin on it,
Speaker 3: sometimes it's not received well. But I don't know if
Speaker 3: that had a bearing on my outcome. So I can
Speaker 3: look back at my performance and I personally think that
Speaker 3: I did a really good job and that that was
Speaker 3: one of my best performances. I'm just every week coming
Speaker 3: more and more out of my shell and feeling more
Speaker 3: and more comfortable on that stage.
Speaker 6: Now, I helped you mat of.
Speaker 3: The broken place you gave me.
Speaker 6: For you.
Speaker 4: List a boot you won't up, A boot.
Speaker 7: You won't up.
Speaker 6: I claims, you're so proud and no.
Speaker 1: To come in.
Speaker 7: I kid you, so tell me want I pt you.
Speaker 7: I want it, OK, I can't.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I'm just gonna tell you right now,
Speaker 1: I'm in your audience. I think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people watch the show that are in your audience, Like
Speaker 1: this is just the start. This is like a jumping
Speaker 1: off point this.
Speaker 2: Is like you, Oh, thank you so much. That means
Speaker 2: the world. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Just like going to the pool and not wanting to
Speaker 1: dive in, but then just taking a small dive and
Speaker 1: then at the end winning, Yeah, picks. That's the vision board.
Speaker 1: That's where we're going. You know, before I let you go,
Speaker 1: I have to ask you this question, which is what
Speaker 1: I ask everyone who runs the podcast, and that is
Speaker 1: something of what is a behind the scenes moment? And
Speaker 1: is it really hard to do with these behind the
Speaker 1: scenes moment of what you're allowed to say? But is
Speaker 1: there What I'm interested in asking you is when you
Speaker 1: look back at this experience, what do you think is
Speaker 1: the moment? Like we all look back at experiences, whether
Speaker 1: it's high school, a job that we've had, and there's
Speaker 1: a moment that we go that's sort of what we remember.
Speaker 1: What do you think in ears to come that you'll
Speaker 1: look back at and think that was my idle experience
Speaker 1: sort of summed up at that moment.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think the goal of a ticket moment for
Speaker 3: me was such such a shot. I really did not
Speaker 3: think that I was going to get through, and it
Speaker 3: was almost like that validation that I needed. And that's
Speaker 3: that was the beginning of that self doubt slowly fading away.
Speaker 3: From that day, that self doubt just slowly started fading
Speaker 3: and I became more and more. I came into myself.
Speaker 3: I found myself, you know. But that moment was the
Speaker 3: start of finding myself. So I'll hold on to that,
Speaker 3: you know, for sure. And having having all three judgers
Speaker 3: give me yesters and also walk out to come and
Speaker 3: tell my family and friends that I got three yesters
Speaker 3: like that was a standout moment for me as well,
Speaker 3: because they don't get up out of their seeks to
Speaker 3: walk out with every contestant, so that was.
Speaker 2: Very, very near and dear to me.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, I've impacted them in a
Speaker 3: way that I can't.
Speaker 2: Even imagine, Like it's happening. Yeah, it's happening. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: who unfold baby.
Speaker 1: Girls. I just want to say thank you so much
Speaker 1: for being so generous and talking to me today. You know,
Speaker 1: I really have enjoyed watching you on this show. I
Speaker 1: think you've done such a fantastic job. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what you do with this whole thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be quite exciting.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. The pleasure talking to you.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your kind words, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Your HiPE girl. Just call me when if you wake
Speaker 1: up any day of the week, any day of the
Speaker 1: week and you're having a bad day, slide into the
Speaker 1: DMS and I'm just like, whoop, whoop ah.
Speaker 2: My head's my head's so big. After the conversation, how dare.
Speaker 1: You What a fabulous chat I had with a liar?
Speaker 1: Some really good insights there, I'm sure. Now we are
Speaker 1: going to unpack the Australian Idol journey with Mazuki, who
Speaker 1: I'm sure is going to also have some pretty exciting
Speaker 1: tales to tell. Hi.
Speaker 5: Ben, how's it going.
Speaker 1: I'm good mate, how are you.
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 1: Thank you congratulations on making it into the Australian Idol
Speaker 1: Top twelve. I don't think it would be the same
Speaker 1: thing if it wasn't for your contribution. I'm just going
Speaker 1: to say that, Oh.
Speaker 2: That's really sweet. I really appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 1: It's it's a really hard thing as an artist to
Speaker 1: be able to sing the sort of music that you sing.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to say that because I'm in awe
Speaker 1: of anyone that can speak that fast, let alone wrap
Speaker 1: that fast. And even try and find your breath. Oh
Speaker 1: my life, they told me that awarded. She can't sing.
Speaker 5: We hate rap.
Speaker 4: Katrine's talk big, don't shine, don't speak Your better shrink
Speaker 4: is she's talking on the mic like she's not even singing.
Speaker 4: I don't get it.
Speaker 7: Where to tell?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 1: I hate the accident.
Speaker 7: Who let the tall ben?
Speaker 1: How does she get in?
Speaker 3: I hate rapping, just hate the same believe.
Speaker 7: In the kids.
Speaker 1: What's an age were you when you realize that you
Speaker 1: could do something like this?
Speaker 5: That wasn't even my fastest rapping that was honestly.
Speaker 1: Oh they turned you down?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, do a lot more than that. But
Speaker 2: I'm very grateful for the comment.
Speaker 5: Just a long time of practice and dedication to the craft.
Speaker 1: Really, I mean, it's such a huge accomplishment to get
Speaker 1: onto a show like this. Are you Are you still
Speaker 1: processing the whole experience because that was a live episode
Speaker 1: last night. That's very hard to do live TV because
Speaker 1: then you're processing everything in real time with the rest
Speaker 1: of Australia. What is your head doing today, my friend?
Speaker 5: I know it definitely was a big shot to the
Speaker 5: system for sure, but you know, I'm very grateful for
Speaker 5: what I've done I'm proud of being able to be
Speaker 5: the first person globally to crack the top twelve without
Speaker 5: seeing a single note and being able to showcase wrap
Speaker 5: deserve the place, and just showcase diverse voices and diverse genres.
Speaker 1: You know, what did you think of this experience in
Speaker 1: this in the sense of, like what you thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be? Like, you're a very soulful person,
Speaker 1: You're a very like what's the best way to describe it,
Speaker 1: Like you're connected to the universe in a way that
Speaker 1: I think other people are not. And so when you
Speaker 1: are connected to the universe the way that you are,
Speaker 1: did you have a feeling of how this would all go?
Speaker 2: That's a great point.
Speaker 5: I definitely was guided to come onto the show how
Speaker 5: it was going to play out. I wasn't really concerned about.
Speaker 5: I knew that I was being guided to apply and
Speaker 5: I was guided to do what I've done. So how
Speaker 5: the kind of cards fall isn't really up to me.
Speaker 5: It's more so about me just doing what I'm told
Speaker 5: to do. And I think I've said what I needed
Speaker 5: to say, and I think it's just the beginning and
Speaker 5: then maybe like a ripple effect beyond what I've done
Speaker 5: so far on the stage.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because, like you know, if you're reading cards,
Speaker 1: if you're doing that kind of stuff, it's one power,
Speaker 1: but then you've also got this music power. Do these
Speaker 1: two coexist in a weird way?
Speaker 3: Like? Are you?
Speaker 1: Can you bring those as soon as we saw you,
Speaker 1: when we saw your story? These are the questions that
Speaker 1: I wanted to know. I'm like, do these go hand
Speaker 1: in hand in some way?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that my spiritual journey and my
Speaker 5: musical journey are inextricably linked, and that as I grow
Speaker 5: as an artist, and as I grow spiritually, I grow
Speaker 5: as an artist, and as I grow as an artists
Speaker 5: need to reach more people with my message. And I
Speaker 5: think the two are very linked. And I'm teen to
Speaker 5: see how it continues to play out.
Speaker 1: And like, I know a lot of people that are
Speaker 1: in that sphere, and they talk about not necessarily knowing
Speaker 1: or predicting or understanding their own journey where that's going
Speaker 1: to go, but then they can do it with other people.
Speaker 1: If that's true. Did you meet the top twelve the
Speaker 1: other eleven? And are you do you have an idea
Speaker 1: where you think this is going to go? That's what
Speaker 1: I want to know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I do have an idea of where I
Speaker 5: do like where I do think it's going to go
Speaker 5: in terms of the competition, but I'll keep that word
Speaker 5: on the hush.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to look at this article. By the way,
Speaker 1: there's an article that was out yesterday. I don't want
Speaker 1: to click on it because I do not want anything
Speaker 1: to take away from my idle journey. There was an article, yes,
Speaker 1: so it says the winner is basically revealed, and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is a live TV show, no one
Speaker 1: knows anything. People could fall down, you know, fall off
Speaker 1: the stage and knock the two front teeth out, Like
Speaker 1: you don't know who's going to win.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, definitely, No, I haven't actually seen that article.
Speaker 5: That's that's the curious one. But honestly, I think it's
Speaker 5: beyond who wins or you know, how it kind of
Speaker 5: plays out. I think we've had such an amazing group
Speaker 5: of talent this year, so I'm excited for everyone's individual journeys.
Speaker 1: Really, it's interesting as well about this show. It's a
Speaker 1: very tough job to sign up and be a judge.
Speaker 1: To be on that panel, I think would be very
Speaker 1: hard because They've got a very tough job to do.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't just turn up and be like
Speaker 1: that was beautiful, do you know what I mean? You
Speaker 1: need to have some criticism, You need to have some
Speaker 1: color in what you're offering these young people. What was
Speaker 1: your relationship with Kyle Sandalans, Marsha Hines and Amy Shark,
Speaker 1: Like do you think that they're doing a great job
Speaker 1: and do you think that they represent sort of the
Speaker 1: faces or the powers that be that need to be
Speaker 1: offering criticism.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I've loved my interaction with the judges. I think
Speaker 5: the judges know what they're talking about. I think that
Speaker 5: they can see they know, they know about the music industry,
Speaker 5: and they can see like what is going on. So
Speaker 5: I think they are a good panel. Amy obviously, she's
Speaker 5: killing it in her own field, and she's like current
Speaker 5: touring musician who's like doing such amazing thing, so she
Speaker 5: kind of understands what it takes to be in the
Speaker 5: music industry. And speaking with her has been really great
Speaker 5: just because I think she gets me sort of level
Speaker 5: of life. And then Marsha is so needed. She's an
Speaker 5: absolute legend, and I think she's like even to have
Speaker 5: like this powerful like woman black woman as well, who's
Speaker 5: just been in the industry for so many years, and
Speaker 5: I think she stands by herself in that lane where
Speaker 5: we don't really have any other black women that are,
Speaker 5: you know, in that sort of position. So she's just
Speaker 5: a testament and an inspiration, honestly, I think. So she's
Speaker 5: very powerful to have up there. And then Kyle as well,
Speaker 5: he's right there with the times. You know, he's got
Speaker 5: his on the radio. He's in touch with what's happening
Speaker 5: and what the current trends are. And I think that's why,
Speaker 5: you know, I've gotten a lot of support from him,
Speaker 5: because he is in touch with the culture globally with
Speaker 5: music and you know, like you know, wrap and hip
Speaker 5: hop and R and B, and he gets it. So
Speaker 5: it's good to just have someone who just gets it
Speaker 5: so you don't have to kind of like explain yourself.
Speaker 5: It's like you just understand what you're doing and can
Speaker 5: see how that's going to play out on like the
Speaker 5: world stage and globally. So it's great to have him
Speaker 5: there and have your support as well.
Speaker 1: They all sort of represent different things as well, like
Speaker 1: you know, you're being given sort of some lessons, some
Speaker 1: guided lessons throughout what they've been able to offer you.
Speaker 1: There was a few times where they talked about people
Speaker 1: saying negative things online.
Speaker 6: I loved it as well. And guess what, I know
Speaker 6: a little bit about having haters. Yeah, yes, I do.
Speaker 6: You know what. I enjoyed that you you use that
Speaker 6: hate and you did a little rap about it. But
Speaker 6: this is what I was told years and years ago
Speaker 6: because I used to obsess over the haters. Why don't
Speaker 6: they love me? I can't understand it. I really couldn't
Speaker 6: understand it. They don't get me. Do they have been
Speaker 6: listen to even know what I do? And then I realized, Oh,
Speaker 6: they're just winkers at home that have got nothing better
Speaker 6: to do. Because I thought, who wouldn't have haters?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: Who are three people that might not have haters? Jesus,
Speaker 6: Beyonce and Ronald McDonald. Guess what, there's multiple hate sites
Speaker 6: about all those three people. So you have to be
Speaker 6: a hated and loved to be anything that anyone even notices. Well,
Speaker 6: so take that and ride with it. You did an
Speaker 6: amazing dress.
Speaker 1: You know, to me, you don't really strike me as
Speaker 1: the sort of person that's going to read the comment
Speaker 1: section or let something like that bother you. But what
Speaker 1: is your relationship with Australian Idol being Like, considering that
Speaker 1: you do get people commenting, you do get people saying
Speaker 1: their opinions online, how did that affect your Idle journey?
Speaker 5: I think to comment, like, there's been so much overwhelming support,
Speaker 5: and I'll start there, like, I've been so grateful for
Speaker 5: the amount of people who have directly reached out, just
Speaker 5: supporting and encouraging me and being so happy to see
Speaker 5: something different on the idol stage. And teach who work
Speaker 5: with kids who don't necessarily resonate with idle and like
Speaker 5: the regular idle format, but the kids who would like
Speaker 5: resonated with Wrap and they're like, that's actually cool. I
Speaker 5: can get behind that. So that was really cool that
Speaker 5: I'm impacting people who aren't necessarily the demographic of Idle viewers.
Speaker 5: But then it's also very also disheartening to read some
Speaker 5: of those, especially on Facebook a lot of the comments,
Speaker 5: and there just seems to be this kind of underlying
Speaker 5: just with the older generation, of underlying kind of like
Speaker 5: slight racism and sexism that's there, and that's quite sad
Speaker 5: to see.
Speaker 1: And I think maybe that's also not your platform as well.
Speaker 1: Like Facebook's kind of like a weird place, right, been
Speaker 1: around for a long time, telling people that are left
Speaker 1: there are these weird boomers that are like right, right,
Speaker 1: and they don't represent the wider community. They're the minority.
Speaker 1: The minority is in Facebook now, and I would hope
Speaker 1: to believe the minority are the sorts of people that
Speaker 1: have a picture of a crow or a cat and
Speaker 1: jump online and have something to say about a young,
Speaker 1: beautiful artist like you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, definitely, And I think, you know, I've been
Speaker 5: guided into this space and I think, you know, me
Speaker 5: showing up in my full authenticity and not hiding myself
Speaker 5: and just being who I am, and you know, being
Speaker 5: put into these people's faces is also powerful because it
Speaker 5: needs to be known that, you know, Australia, we're a
Speaker 5: diverse community. And I mean, I'm second generation Australian, but
Speaker 5: we're a diverse community, and there's different voices that also
Speaker 5: need to be in these mainstream spaces. And you know,
Speaker 5: if I can be that person to inspire the kids
Speaker 5: that look like me who don't necessarily get to see
Speaker 5: that celebrated as much, I mean, that's just powerful in itself,
Speaker 5: and you know, being able to speak my truth on
Speaker 5: that world like for that idle stage is just really powerful.
Speaker 5: And I hope that it shifts the culture forward to
Speaker 5: towards more acceptance of diverse voices, more celebration of diverse
Speaker 5: talent as well, especially women, you know, just building each
Speaker 5: other up.
Speaker 1: I could imagine you going to schools and singing and performing.
Speaker 1: I honestly think you have a lot to offer young
Speaker 1: people in your learnings and your findings. I think there's
Speaker 1: something in that. I mean, yes, a music artist you know,
Speaker 1: would love to sell out arenas, but I genuinely think
Speaker 1: that there's something a little deeper than you that's also
Speaker 1: very inspiring. And your ability to use your voice and
Speaker 1: articulate yourself is quite amazing, and young people need that.
Speaker 1: Young people need to feel inspired and to see that
Speaker 1: they can do it.
Speaker 5: And I think there's been so many people and people
Speaker 5: have even interacted with in person, who have said, you know,
Speaker 5: that they've stopped pursuing their dreams because people like bullied
Speaker 5: them in high school and like they wanted to be
Speaker 5: a singer, and they post that then people would pick
Speaker 5: on them and say that they stuck, you know, and
Speaker 5: like really bully them, and that literally talked them out
Speaker 5: of them pursuing that as of air dream. And I
Speaker 5: think that that's really disheartening. But also it's important to
Speaker 5: have voices that amplify hey, follow your dreams despite no
Speaker 5: matter what other people think of that, and just stand
Speaker 5: in your power and stay true to yourself in whatever
Speaker 5: space that you want to pursue, no matter what that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. You know, when you are in a
Speaker 1: bottom two scenario and we sort of bottom falls scenario technically,
Speaker 1: but you're in a subsection of the bottom two, do
Speaker 1: you feel in that moment like you know what the
Speaker 1: outcome is going to be. That's what I always think.
Speaker 5: I didn't know how it was going to go. I
Speaker 5: think once I was up there with Jisella, I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: I know that. I mean the bottom two, Like it's like,
Speaker 5: you know, I was just like, girl, you are so
Speaker 5: undeniably going through and so undeniably talented. I mean the
Speaker 5: whole thing. I didn't think that that was how going
Speaker 5: to go.
Speaker 3: So it was a bit shocking for me to kind
Speaker 3: of process everything.
Speaker 5: But I think that it's gone how it was meant
Speaker 5: to go, And you know, I've done what I was
Speaker 5: meant to do on the show. You know, if I
Speaker 5: would guided to just come out there and you know,
Speaker 5: crack Top twelve, get to you know, write my own
Speaker 5: wrap and flip that negativity into positivity and inspire people.
Speaker 5: I think that's my job done well.
Speaker 1: I think that there's lots of spaces and places that
Speaker 1: you're going to find yourself in, you know, with an
Speaker 1: open heart and open mind and a brilliant singing voice,
Speaker 1: like I think, you know, it's up to you where
Speaker 1: you want to take this.
Speaker 5: Yes, one hundred percent. Now, there's definitely somewhere else that
Speaker 5: I'm being guided towards. So I'm going to continue on
Speaker 5: the journey and trust that path.
Speaker 1: Well before you go. The last thing I ask everyone
Speaker 1: is what is something from behind the scenes? And I
Speaker 1: was wondering for you behind the scenes question is how
Speaker 1: the hell do you manage to get a good pop
Speaker 1: song and put your own words into it? What is
Speaker 1: the process like in being able to work faster? These
Speaker 1: other artists are just singing a song that you know,
Speaker 1: some of them have been around for a very long time.
Speaker 1: Where you're remastering, which is very clever, you know, are
Speaker 1: you in that room longer with the coaches trying to
Speaker 1: work out how to do it.
Speaker 5: I'm definitely doing it by myself. I've been songwriting and
Speaker 5: producing and you know, rapping, singing, I play guitar, like,
Speaker 5: I've been an artist for a long time, so I'm
Speaker 5: like a very seasoned artist. So that was kind of
Speaker 5: effortless to me, Like I mean that, laughs up. I
Speaker 5: think I channeled down and wrote in like five or
Speaker 5: ten minutes. So it just comes down to that's just
Speaker 5: who I am as an artist, and I got to
Speaker 5: I'm grateful that I got to showcase a little bit
Speaker 5: of my artistry. I think that's also something that I
Speaker 5: was there to do was to change hearts in mind
Speaker 5: as opposed to.
Speaker 2: Win the show.
Speaker 5: It's more so, okay, let me showcase wing change for
Speaker 5: some halfs of minded people who are never going to
Speaker 5: see someone like me other than me being on the
Speaker 5: show for them, you know.
Speaker 1: And beyond of course, yeah, it's the there's something more.
Speaker 1: There's a higher power to you, I think, And I
Speaker 1: just want to say thank you for being so generous
Speaker 1: and unpacking your idle journey with me this morning, because
Speaker 1: I have really enjoyed watching you on the show, and
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what you want to do
Speaker 1: with this. You know, I think that there's a lot
Speaker 1: of opportunity there for you. But but yeah, thank you
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 5: It's such such a pleasure.
Speaker 2: It's been actually so beautiful to chat with you.
Speaker 5: It's been it really great, was really great, decent passion session.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I want. I'm like, But what a
Speaker 1: joy that I even am allowed to do this with you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was last night on my couch screaming
Speaker 1: and yelling at Austrayan Idol and then now I'm talking
Speaker 1: to you today. It is quite amazing. It's quite amazing
Speaker 1: for me because I'm in your audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's so beautiful.
Speaker 5: It's been an absolute pleasure to chat with you.
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