1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Get a. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional oversharer. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: about their highs as well as they're lows, all in 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Right. 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: Oh. Aleira Potter on the pod today, Spiritual mindset coach, 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: mental health advocate, First Nations woman, absolute legend of a 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 2: human being. We've been doing Wonderluss Festival together. That's how 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: this podcast interview came about. 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: And really Alira has been in viewing me on. 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: Stage and I've been talking about failure and why I'm 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: so passionate about fearlessly failing. And literally from the moment 16 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 2: we met, I was like, you're a legend, and then 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: she was like, oh, you're a legend. 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: And we just got on like a house on fire. 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: So this pod had to happen on I feel this 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: pod is for anybody that just really wants to connect 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 2: to themselves. But also like, if you're into a little 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: bit of the witchy spiritual stuff, I think you're gonna 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: love it. But also if you're not, you'll just love 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: this because this is an honest human just sharing their 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: ups and downs and being really truthful about where they are, 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: and it's a very inspiring chat. I hope you love it, Aalira. 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 2: I think you're wonderful. And I've said it before, I'll 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: say it again. I feel like we're mates now. 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: And I really really really like you. 30 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: I think you're an amazing human being. All Right, gangles 31 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: over to you. I hope you love this chat, and yeah, 32 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: let me know what you think of it, Aleira, You're wonderful. 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Alira Potter, Welcome to the pod, mate. 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: I'm excited to be here in what your hotel room? 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Are you delirious? We have been together. We've only got 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: one more day. 37 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 3: I've only had one coffee today. 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: May I've had two. I'm like, where am I? 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: What's going on? 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: My first one was before six am. I know. 41 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: So we're delirious. We need food and we need like 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: relaxation tonight. 43 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's absolutely chill time tonight. 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you on the pod. Do 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: you know when I found out? 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: So we have been working together on the beautiful wonder 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: loss FESTI you are or True North you are the MC. 48 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: How's a fucking doller. 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: I know. I'm so glad when I saw your name 50 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: pop up, I was like, we're going to be friends 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: from the get go. I was like, yes, I'm interviewing Lola. 52 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: It's happening. But it's been great. Hey, it's been so 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 3: much fun. 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: But I think that's a testament to you. 55 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: You bring this like grounded, earthy like because you do 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: everything barefoot. 57 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: I've noticed, yes I do. 58 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: I whip off my shoes and I'm straight on the sane. 59 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, how good. 60 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: And I feel like that brings this like and I 61 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: think as an MC, you have to be the glue 62 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: right that that's on you. 63 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 64 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: And it's really funny because I've had friends come to 65 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: each show and everyone's like, I've never seen you work 66 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 3: in quotation mark and I'm like, what do you mean. 67 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: They're like, you have such a different voice when you're working, 68 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh okay, and they're like, yeah, 69 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: you sound like a bogan in like everyday life, but 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: as soon as you're on stage it's so different. And 71 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I can see that. I can 72 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: see that. 73 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: I don't find you sounding both like when I'm on 74 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: stage with you, I don't. 75 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: Because I've got my work voice on. 76 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: Oh that's because I reckon. I'm more Bogan in work mode. 77 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: I love that. 78 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: Maybe I should do that. 79 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: Nah, i'd probably no, no, no, you got it, nail, Yeah, 80 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: you got it down back. 81 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Okay, Well you're doing so good. You're doing so good. 82 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: How was it in viewing Mick Fanning last Mate. 83 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: The Nerves before when I was with you. When I 84 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: was interviewing you, I was like, yeah, cool, Like I'm 85 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: interviewing Fanning after this, I was shitting brick. 86 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 2: Because he you know, he was sitting there watching us, 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: like yeah, and you and me going on about meeting 88 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: him was outside and he's just like, oh these two 89 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: gears these But no, you did so well and you 90 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: talked about really heavy topics yeah, really like. 91 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: Like genuinely, but also you held space gently for him. 92 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: I think I think it was really good because it 93 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: was just so niceeing a blowup on stage, being so 94 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: vulnerable and talking about grief. So he was amazing because 95 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: his energy is quite masculine, you say, like he's like yeah, yeah, Australia, 96 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: you know, but on stage, I was like, yeah, I 97 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: really like. I just love his energy. He's just so 98 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: grounded and so down to earth, and I think that's 99 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: probably why a lot of people love him, because he's 100 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 3: so just like an everyday bloke. 101 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you seen him on the Chris Hamsworth Docco? No, 102 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: on the Disney Channel. It's just I think it's like, 103 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: it's It's Disney Special docco. That hemy did to like that? 104 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: I used that press never meant him, but hemmy that 105 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: you know. One day I was flying back from Sydney 106 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: to Byron Baker. I never said this story before. And 107 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: his beautiful wife, Elsa. 108 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: She's she's like a little angel. 109 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: Two massive boxes of Krispy Kreme donuts. It's like a beautiful, 110 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: flowing like looks straight off like the cover of vote. 111 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Krispy Kremes. 112 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: Taken it home for the kids. Yeah, why not? Loved 113 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: it balance total. 114 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: But in the docco, Mick Fanning features super heavily because 115 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: they're both advert surfers, of course, and they go surf 116 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: like in Iceland or somewhere freezing together because Chris was 117 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: exploring like hot cold exposure and how that affects you longevity. 118 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to watch this Trainer Sydney trailer. 119 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: It's really good. 120 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: That episode alone is really okay, amazing, highly recommend. I 121 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: totally digress. I want to talk more about you now, mate. 122 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: What a journey you've been on. I know, holy mad, 123 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 2: I know. So you've done so much in what feels 124 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: like I guess because I've researched you in a short 125 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: amount of time, but like it feels like it's kind 126 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: of gone. Yeah, you've taken a not even a turn, 127 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: but you've just been like, right, massive life change. And 128 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: like even when I first put up a selfie of 129 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: you and I last week at the Melbourne one, so 130 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: one wrote to me and they're like, I knual era 131 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: when when they were a chef and married, and I 132 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: was like, what coming in? Like I had met you 133 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: not twenty minutes before, So crazy, that's a massive, huge 134 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: Can you take me through a little bit of like 135 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: the ship went through there? 136 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yes. So I got married really young, 137 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: like twenty one and then divorced twenty seven right at 138 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 3: the Satins Return. We were talking about that yesterday and yeah, 139 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: we divorced because he wanted like kids in a family 140 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: and I was like, my career, I just feel like 141 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: I've got more to give, I've got more to put 142 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: out there. That's not to say you can't do it 143 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: all as a mom, but I just I felt like 144 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to be on my own path. And yeah, 145 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: we split up and it was so beautiful. It was great. 146 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: That was a great time of my life. But then 147 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: it sort of led me to where I am now, 148 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: like tapping into spirituality and understanding that hey, I'm actually 149 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: really gay, I'm not actually into men, and I don't 150 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: know that's how it's sort of everything just really kicked 151 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: off in that sounds return. 152 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: Ah, I'm mean a beautiful girlfriend. Yeah, she's what a 153 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: sweety she's the best. You two together too, I'm like, oh, 154 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: this is cure, I know, like put a ring on it. Absolutely, 155 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: So what about it? Although that was like beautiful that 156 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: like and it sounds like you're very honest, You're a 157 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: heart on your sleep kind of a human being. What 158 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: was the challenges that came with that? Was it confronting 159 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: to be like, oh my goodness, like maybe the I've 160 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: been not living alone, but like maybe this isn't true 161 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: to who I am. 162 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I feel like let's go back. So I 163 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: lost my mom at seventeen to cancer, so really really young, 164 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: and I don't think I didn't process the grief probably 165 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: until the divorce. And so once I processed that grief, 166 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: I went through those like waves of emotion. I actually 167 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: I really spiraled with drugs and alcohol as well too, 168 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: because I was just trying to like look for a 169 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: coping mechanism, look for like an outlet, and that was 170 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 3: like my poison for like a solid twelve months. And 171 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 3: then once I sort of realized I needed to get 172 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: out of this cycle, that's where I lent into spirituality. 173 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: And I was dealing with the grief of my mom, 174 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: the grief of a marriage break down, because that is 175 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: a grieving process. And I started just just doing things 176 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 3: for me. I was doing all my self development. I 177 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: started coaching at Beautiful You Academy. I just did. I 178 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: did a lot, a lot of really cool things. And 179 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: I leant into also my sexuality, where I typical joined 180 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: a footy team just because I wanted to be surrounded 181 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: by other people. Yeah footy, yeah, afl yeuh yeah. And 182 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: I just started hanging out with girls and I was like, oh, 183 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: this makes so much sense. To me, like why I 184 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: was always dating very feminine men and then I just 185 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: started like dating very sort of masculine women. And then yeah, 186 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: from that point, oh, I'm not that we need to 187 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: label anything. I was like, Oh, I actually really like women. 188 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: And that was a really big pivotal moment for me 189 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: in my big whole journey. 190 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: How cool can I ask not to like deep on 191 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: the darker stuff? But was there a moment with like 192 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: the booze and the drugs where You're like, uh, I 193 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: got to pull the handbrake up. 194 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: This is going down a really scary part. It was 195 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: so have goosebumps this. I will never forget this moment. 196 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: So it would have been March of March of twenty twenty, 197 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: just before we went into the lockdown, and I'd just 198 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: been on a three day bender with a group of 199 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: my party friends. You know those party friends you only 200 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: party with you've got nothing else like in common except 201 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: like partying. And I remember I woke up the next 202 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: day and my guy friend had stayed over and he 203 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: sort of said to me, what the fuck are you doing? 204 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: And I was like, what do you mean. We're like, 205 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: I've just been like partying, and he's like you are 206 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: wasting your potential right now? Why are you going out 207 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: every week? And like what's the purpose? What's the drive? 208 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 3: Why are you like taking all these drugs? And I 209 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: was like why am I? Why am I doing all 210 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 3: these things? 211 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: And I just. 212 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: Remember waking up and that I think it was like 213 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: a Monday or Tuesday. I was like, I'm going to 214 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: go sober. 215 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. 216 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go cold turkey. So I went sober for 217 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: about like six months just to change my relationship with 218 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: alcohol and to stop taking drugs. And luckily, like we 219 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: were in a you know, I guess it was shit 220 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: in a lockdown, but it gave me time to go inwoods. 221 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: That's when a lot of people, A, yeah, be really 222 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: uncomfortable in like dealing with my emotions. And I just 223 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: fully change the relationship with alcohol and like partying. I 224 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: mean I love to party. My friends will be like, 225 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: you still love to like go and have fun, Yeah, 226 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 3: but I do it within reason. I'm not just going 227 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 3: out for the yeah. 228 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean. 229 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: And that's also like a lot of personal strength there 230 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: because I know, like people can say, ah, I'm going 231 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: to go sober and it can last like two, three, four, 232 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: five days and then like you know, it creeps back 233 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: in and so the it's a testament to you and 234 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: your strength that you're able to be like, this is 235 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: something that I need to be so disciplined with if 236 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: I want to make a change. 237 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And then it sounds like it was a huge 238 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: turning point in your life. 239 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: Big turning point, because that's when I leant into spiritual way. Yes, 240 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: I found my mom's deck of oracle cars, and I 241 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: just remember being like, oh, maybe she left them like 242 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: for a reason and or whatever. And I just started 243 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: playing with them, like having heaps of fun with them. 244 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: And then I started doing my little daily readings. And 245 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: then my social media only had like maybe a couple 246 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: thousand people on there, and I just started putting like, 247 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: choose a card. 248 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: Everyone, I choosing my I choose a little card. 249 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: And then I really discovered that I had something like 250 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: a bit of a gift. I really unlocked my intuition, 251 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: and I was receiving what people would call downloads, Like 252 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: things were just dropping me in and I was like, 253 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: why is that happening? And then messages were just coming 254 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: to me, and I started saying to friends, can I 255 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: give you a card reading. Just give me, like the 256 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: honest truth. If it's shit, just tell me. If it's good, 257 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: let me know. And friends, I was doing like free 258 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 3: readings and people were like, what the fuck, how did 259 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: you know that? And I was like, oh, I don't know. 260 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: It just came to me. 261 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: Oh how cool. 262 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: And then yeah, Instagram, I just started sharing it on 263 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: there and. 264 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: Boom, mate, I love it. There's a deck of cards 265 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: that you and I both had. 266 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 3: Yes, we were talking about this, the Mermaid Dolphins said, 267 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: and I only just got that deck of cards. 268 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: A friend for like five years. 269 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: I reckon, Yeah, a friend has them, and I was like, 270 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 3: I love those cards and they're discontinued, they can't buy 271 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: them anywhere. Next minute, she's jumped on eBay found them 272 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: and brought them for me. If I was like, I 273 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: was meant to have these. 274 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: They're such good, such a good deck. Like is that 275 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: part of your spiritual practice? Card for yourself every single day? 276 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 277 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: Every day? 278 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: Part of my little ritual. 279 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk rituals, Like what is and now I 280 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: get to the is shoes on the other foot. You've 281 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: been the last few years, you know, but what is 282 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: part of like take me through something your spiritual non negotiable. 283 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, non negotiables. I feel grounding every single morning is 284 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: a really big thing for me. Whether that's just taking 285 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: a moment to meditate and be still in the hotel room, 286 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: or it's me going on my beachwalk with Cosmo the dog, 287 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: just those little things. It's pulling the card every single morning. 288 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: If I don't do that, I feel out of whack. 289 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 3: And I also just do like this weird thing where 290 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: I have to like cleanse the house every single morning 291 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: and I'm just creating space. Do you do that with 292 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: like say s or like incense or just sort of 293 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: like just smoking the house and just being like, yeah, 294 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: we're set up for the day, which is nice. 295 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: So is this where the idea for the book where 296 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: the book talk me through the book? 297 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 298 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know what? It's so funny. Yeah, I 299 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: will send you a copy. Done. Done, Do a trade, 300 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: Do a trade. I got approached to write a book, 301 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: and I thought why why would I Why would I 302 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: write a book? And then I thought, no, why would 303 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: I write a book? Like, come on earlier, get with it. 304 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: And so when I started planning what I would write, 305 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: I wanted to write a book that I didn't have 306 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: as a teenager or a young adult, a book that 307 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: was like a toolbook for people to go to when 308 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: they were struggling with maybe a friendship breakdown, or going 309 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: through grief, or wanting just to know more about mental 310 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: health health. So I created Wild and Witching and it's 311 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: just a little self help book for when you're going 312 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: through the shit stuff but also want to learn about 313 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: like spiritual stuff, the Basic Bitch Guide. 314 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so good, just good. How does it 315 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: feel to have a book. 316 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: Out in the world. 317 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: It's so funny because I feel like, and my friends 318 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: will say this, I am probably the most humble human 319 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: you'll ever meet. That I forget sometimes that I've got 320 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: a book down at Camar do you know? 321 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: Do you know what? 322 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: Though? One thing I've learned I used to get embarrassed 323 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: when people say stuff about books. And then I went 324 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: to America, and because Americans take you so literally, like 325 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: if you're like, yeah, I just wrote this little book thing, they'd. 326 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: Be like, oh, what's wrong with it? 327 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: Like they'd literally think, unless you're telling us how great 328 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: it is. 329 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: And so I learned really. 330 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: Quickly in America because I used to be like, oh, yeah, 331 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: I just don't know how it looks like. 332 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: I used to hate and hate it. 333 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: And then a friend Maum, was like, no, Americans will 334 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: believe you when you don't sell yourself, and so like 335 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: now when an American literally says to me like, also, 336 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: like do you write books, I'm like, yeah, I've written 337 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: eleven and they're like really eleven And it's just and 338 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: I don't care. This is not even ego, just like, 339 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: well that's the truth. I'd rather be honest than kind 340 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: of like feel awkward. But I used to be like uncomfortable. 341 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, though I feel I think maybe it's 342 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe it's the people that I'm around 343 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: as well too. I'm also like conscious that my life 344 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: seems very glamorous and seems really cool that I forget. 345 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: You know, my friends they've just got like everyday jobs 346 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: and that's they love their life and that's so fine. 347 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: So I'm always like tiptoeing around maybe being like oh yeah, 348 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: like I wrote a book, or like oh yeah, I've 349 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: done me. It's like, oh cool. 350 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: Do you know my boyfriend all the time, you've met 351 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: beautiful Matt. He reminds me all the time. He's like, 352 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: do you not realize how on the outside, how good 353 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: your life books And I'm like, what are you talking about. 354 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: We've got a bloody mortgage. We've been and he's like, 355 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: are you joking. He's like, one, you've got a house. 356 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: Two you live in La Three you live in Byron Ba. 357 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: He's like, are you kidding? You? Dam down? But he 358 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: calls me Tornado Lola, like and I'm. 359 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: Like, I gotta do this, gotta do this this, But 360 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: it's I get it because I didn't realize, Like, because 361 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: when you're in it, it's sometimes hard to be grateful 362 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: for what you got because you're like, you're you know, 363 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: I know me, I'm focused on the next thing. 364 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: What's the next project, what's the next thing? You know? 365 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: Like, and I think it's like taking a minute. And 366 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: I think that's where this spirituality comes in, because all 367 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: those practices you're talking about that you do each day, 368 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: it's really bringing a sense of presence so that you're 369 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: connected to yourself and fear and your space is. 370 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: Clear and safe. 371 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 3: Exactly. 372 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: My question to you is, because we've been traveling so much, 373 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: do what is anything you do to like spiritually ground 374 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: yourself when you're traveling. 375 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I spoke about it last night, the whole 376 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: white light things. So I envision that white light left 377 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: side of my body to the right, and it's like 378 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: a little orb to protect me energetically. But like I 379 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: need downtime. I know we're on a tour with a 380 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 3: lot of people at the moment, and they're all like, 381 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 3: let's all do this and that, and I'm like, hell 382 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: fucking no, I want to be like in my hotel 383 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: room tonight and I want to just be like vegging mate. 384 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: You've got that doctor, I mean exactly, watch, but that's 385 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: what I need to do. Like if I'm traveling for work, 386 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 3: I need a moment to like decompress. 387 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: And I needed to just like breathe. Yeah. 388 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I call myself the lone wolf, like I have 389 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: to be like I have to have lone wolf time 390 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: because otherwise I burn out. 391 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: Exactly, you give a lot energy. 392 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: Can I ask why you say when you talk about 393 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: the orb, why is it left to right? 394 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. 395 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: I feel like I don't that's a good question. 396 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. 397 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 3: That probably is spiritually, but for me, I've always just 398 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 3: gone like left to the right. 399 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: That just makes sense for me. Yeah. Oh, I love it. 400 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: I love it. 401 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I've heard you talk about the power of manifestation, 402 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: law of attraction stuff before, but it's such a good 403 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: refresher the way you say, So, can you share to 404 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 2: me what manifestation means to you and then how you 405 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: implement that in your own life. 406 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: So manifestation for me is literally just putting it out 407 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: to the universe and speaking as if it's already happened 408 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: or it's like about to happen. 409 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: And I try not to. 410 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 3: Be greedy with the universe in terms of things that 411 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 3: I want to bring in, Like I've been manifesting mc 412 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: gigs this whole year, and then wonder last was like 413 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: a big one. 414 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: May and you're nailing it, absolutely nailing it. 415 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: Because Yeah, I do manifestation in a way that's simple. 416 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 3: I'll write it down. I'm allowing five hundred dollars to 417 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: come into my bank account, and I'm visualizing that money 418 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: already in the bank account, and I'm already feeling into, 419 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: oh my god, what feeling am I going to feel 420 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: when I see that money in my bank account. I'll 421 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: put little manifestations in my like iPhone notepad, just like 422 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: those little things, and then daily practice is all. I 423 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 3: guess it's also much daily practice is manifesting. It's more 424 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: so like a monthly thing. I'll check in with myself 425 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: to be like, how is everything running? How is everything? 426 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: Is it running smoothly? So I think that's probably like 427 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: the basic bitch guide to manifesting. 428 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: And what do you do? 429 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: Not to be like a negative Nancy or anything, but 430 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: what do you do if you're like, fuck, that thing's 431 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: not manifesting. But I really wanted to get man. 432 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I used to be, like, it used 433 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: to be like fucking how like, come on, I've done 434 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: the work. Why isn't it happening? Now I'm at the 435 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: point where I'm like, the universe will give me or 436 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 3: give me what I'm supposed to receive, like when it's 437 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: the right time, And that's okay, and that's cool because 438 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: the universe fully has my back. 439 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: Ah. 440 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: Nice. I'm reading a book right now that I feel 441 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: like you would love. 442 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: It's called The War of Art and it's basically about 443 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: acceptance versus resistance, which, yeah, exactly what you just said 444 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 2: of just being like I trust and. 445 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: I trust the process exactly. Oh and it's really freaky 446 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 3: like talking about manifestations. So the other week, my girlfriend 447 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 3: was over at my house and I said to her, 448 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: you're gonna think I'm weird, but I literally manifested you, Like, 449 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 3: not so much the timing, but I wrote down specifics. 450 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm open to receiving like the love 451 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: of my life, soulmate, and I literally wrote specifics. 452 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: They're tall, they're blonde, blue eyes. 453 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 3: You've met my girlfriend, she's athletic, like all these things. 454 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: And she read it and was like, what the fuck? 455 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: And I was like, I manifested you. 456 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. 457 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: I've heard as well. When you talk about manifesting, you've 458 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: got to remove the ego. Can you share what you. 459 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: Mean by that? 460 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: Remove the ego? So I think when you're manifesting, I 461 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 3: want my clients to take a moment and understand, is 462 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 3: this something that I really desire right now? Is this 463 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: something I really really need? How is it going to 464 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: impact me? Because if you think if you're manifesting, say 465 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 3: a soulmate kind of love, it's not just going to 466 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: impact you as an individual, it's going to impact your 467 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: circle because you're creating space for someone to come in. 468 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: So it's like, have a think before you're like, universe, 469 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: I want this, I want ten thousand dollars. Do you 470 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 3: really need ten thousand dollars right now? Are you comfortable? 471 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 3: Are you safe? Like that's what I mean when I'm saying, like, 472 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 3: make sure that you're not coming from a place of ego. 473 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. 474 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: And I think like it's so like ego's a tricky, 475 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: slippery little sucker. You know, it can sneak in and 476 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: even I can notice in my mental talk, I'm like, 477 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: that is coming from a place of want, not me, 478 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: And it's coming from a place of like notoriety or 479 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: wanting something out like extrinsic versus intrinsic, you know what 480 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 2: I mean. It's coming from something that is actually not 481 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: going to serve me or the greater good kind of thing. 482 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: And so it's interesting when you catch yourself on those 483 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: little like hooks like egois you know completely. Okay, friend, 484 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 2: I could ask you literally, but I do want to 485 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: know because I am. 486 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: I am a little bit obsessed with Halloween. 487 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. 488 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: Your book has spells in it, right, yes, do you 489 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 2: have a favorite spell? 490 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: You know what? 491 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: My friendship group and I always joke about the freezer 492 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: bag spell. 493 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: Can you share this because I love. 494 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: Need to get you a copy of my book. So 495 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 3: when you are wanting to I guess essentially get rid 496 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 3: of somebody or just get them out of your life, 497 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: then you'll write their name on a piece of paper, 498 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: put their name in a freezer bag, and then you'll 499 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 3: fill that freezer bag with water. You'll send blessings to 500 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: that person because karma a regardless of what they've done 501 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: to you. And you put them in the freezer so 502 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 3: good and watch them like disappear. But it's weird, like 503 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: the universe will just do its thing, like the person 504 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: will just slowly just disappear out of your life, or 505 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: it's like you'll just subconsciously just stop thinking about them, 506 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: and it's crazy. But yeah, the freezer bag spells. 507 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: And what if you want to bring something in, Like 508 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: what if it's like like, I know I've got a 509 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: career thing that I really want to bring in at 510 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: the moment, and I can I feel I know that 511 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: I'm holding on too tight to the outcome, Like I 512 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 2: can feel that right now. Like I Matt, and I 513 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: was like, oh, Mat, can I follow up yet? And 514 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: He's like, no, you need to let it be. Yeah, 515 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: follow up yeah, is detached? 516 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that the trick? 517 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: That is the trick. So you detach. So like, if 518 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 3: you're wanting to bring in that really big career thing, 519 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 3: you would I guess write it down or put it 520 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: out to the universe. Yeah, and then you feel into it. 521 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 522 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's happening, it's amazing. I'm so excited to be 523 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 3: doing this blah blah blah. But then you just let 524 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: it go. You have to detach. That's the hardest bit 525 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: made it's the best bit because it's like a you 526 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: really have. 527 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: To what's the word. 528 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 3: You just have to be like, no, I need to 529 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 3: detach from this to really allow this to come on in. 530 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: Oh. 531 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: So you're a spiritual mindset coach, right? Is that when 532 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: you say you've got clients, like people would sit with 533 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: you and like ask questions away, I am like, fuck, 534 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: this thing's going on in my life. 535 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: I want to I want to Yeah. Or it could 536 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: be like in a group setting. Sometimes I run cool 537 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: workshops manifestation workshops, which is fun. 538 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you a crystal kid? Yeah? What do it? 539 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: What's your fave? 540 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm a sucker And it's like the 541 00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: basic bitch, but a rose. 542 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It's pure love. 543 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm a Labrador, right girl, Yeah, manifesting. 544 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: Ye see, I'm like that with the rose Quats. I'm 545 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: always like self love love. I would just want to 546 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: be surrounded by love all the time. 547 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: Attracts for who you are. 548 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes like the black tormaline will be like number 549 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: one for protection and for traveler love. 550 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: A bit of black tormally. Yeah, I've got one in 551 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: my suitcase. 552 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: I was like, I bet you you've got something your 553 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: travel us suitcase. 554 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 555 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: So if this year you've manifested the amazing MC gigs, 556 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 2: you're absolutely and natural and so and can I just 557 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: say to people listening, no AUTOQ for you, Yeah, you 558 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: got no at any All that I've seen is a 559 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 2: countdown timer. 560 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: That is the only thing I've seen. 561 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 3: My little clipboard with just some random notes, and then 562 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: I just it's a free for all, scary So most 563 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: have an autok No, I feel like, what's the point 564 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 3: that's boring? 565 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: I know my testament to you. 566 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel like as an MC as well too, 567 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: in like hosting the wonder Last events, I'm able to 568 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: pick up on the energy in that way, I can 569 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 3: be like how am I going to talk today? What 570 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: am I gonna say? Because I can pick up on 571 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: the energy of course. Yeah. 572 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: Do you also notice you onet of those people that 573 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 2: when you meet someone, you'll get a vibe pretty quick 574 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 2: and you'll be like, oh yeah. 575 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah. 576 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: No, because people will say to me like you will 577 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 3: either tell someone if you like them or you don't, 578 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 3: because I can pick up on the energy straight away, 579 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: and I'm just like, nah. 580 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: It's tricky in the wellness space too, because the wellness 581 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: space you would think is like very wholesome and m 582 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: but like it's also a isn't it like a billion 583 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 2: dollar industry, So there's like a business money making side, 584 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: which is like a different energy again not saying it 585 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: bad energy, but like people come in with different motives 586 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: into this space and you can really feel if it's 587 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: not the same, if it's just a different energy to 588 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 2: where you're at, and you quickly like, oh, I need 589 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: to protect myself from this. 590 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: You really do. And I think me being like a 591 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 3: First Nations woman, there's just so much whitewash in here 592 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 3: as well too that it's just like whoa you can 593 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: really tell. 594 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: You and I touched on this when we were chatting 595 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: yesterday about privilege as well, like, and I mean, I'm 596 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: sitting here as a very privileged white woman who's grown 597 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: up you know, Melbourney's. 598 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: And suburbs, you know, right, Yeah, And it's. 599 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: Just it's interesting because like you as somebody that's like 600 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: been in the wellness space for friggin years now, Like 601 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 2: I'm thirty eight. I wrote my first book when I 602 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: was twenty two, and so I've been in this space friggin' yonks. 603 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: But like, I would hate to have thought that I 604 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: could have alienated people, but I'm sure I would have 605 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: just by like speaking from an unawareness and like a 606 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: bit of ignorance to be honest with you. And so 607 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: it's actually fucking cool now to have people be like no, 608 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: actually like like that shit, don't check out? 609 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is good. And I think that's why I 610 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: wanted to come into the wellness space because not only 611 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: am I black, but I'm also like a curby girl. 612 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: But I'm also like a fit, curby girl that loves 613 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: like wellness and fitness, and I wanted to change that 614 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: narrative to be like, you don't have to be a 615 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: size six, white white person. Yeah, you know what I mean, yeah, 616 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 3: like wellness is for everybody. 617 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: And we were talking about last night what what suits me? 618 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 3: Like? 619 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: Because I'm a nutritionist by train, right, and so like 620 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: every client that I take, I will always be like 621 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: I might do this health and wellness practice thing this 622 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: one Like, for example, sometimes I like to intermittent fast right. 623 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's not gonna work for everyone now, and. 624 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: It's not gonna work for someone with a blood sugar problems, right, 625 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: And so I just think every human being actually had 626 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: it's like a thumb print. We actually have different needs, 627 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: especially from out the wellness perspective. So I love that 628 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: you've been like shining a light on like what suits 629 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: meat doesn't, So you it's actually something to be celebrated. 630 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: Because I feel like there is so many trends on 631 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: TikTok at the moment. Whether it's like you see a 632 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: lot of that wellness girl TikTok where it's all green 633 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: smoothies and powders and like your hot girl walk every 634 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 3: day and you go to the gym, and it's like 635 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: that's not really accessible for a lot of people, especially 636 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: in this economy, Like it's not accessible and not everyone's 637 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: going to have time to hot girl walk. Not everyone's 638 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: going to have access to, you know, putting ten different 639 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: ingredients in this smoothie or buying greens powder like people, 640 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 3: it's just even. 641 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: Just reason buying because I like to make a green juice, right, 642 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: so get the juice. Are out throwing a bit of 643 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: greeny smith apple, some salery zucchini. Sounds like a weed 644 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: ingreening but it works in the juice. Yeah, yeah, whack 645 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: it all in right, And I'm like, holy shit, that 646 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: costs like fifteen bucks exactly to make it green. Yeah, 647 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: Like it's so wild. 648 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: But that's the other thing that I love that you're 649 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: passionate about. 650 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: And it's also mental health, and I feel like you 651 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: kind of meet people wherever they're at. 652 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, is that kind of something you're passionate about. 653 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: Love advocating for mental health and social media because I, 654 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: for one, obviously like when my mom died it was 655 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: a bit of PTSD, and I'm so transparent on socials. 656 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: I suffer from really bad anxiety and I'm medicated because yeah, 657 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 3: like I can't control how my brain works sometimes and 658 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: that's okay to be medicated. So I think normalizing and 659 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: destigmatizing on social media makes it a bit more human, 660 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 3: a human interaction. 661 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: On socials, and I think it makes other people feel 662 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: seen that I'm medicated. That would be like, oh, I 663 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: can't tell anybody, Yeah, And I think, yeah, there's something 664 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: very empowering when you just show up as who they 665 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: if you are, And not to overuse the word authenticity, 666 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, like, show up as 667 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: who you are, yeah, and that's going to connect with 668 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: more people. And I think we talked about it at 669 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: the first one to last, like I'd rather be honest 670 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: and people not like me than be like this prim 671 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: and proper like together. 672 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's that's boring to me. 673 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: Well, and I don't think it's sustainable or real even 674 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: like really healthy people have shitty days and binge on blocks. 675 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 3: Actually, Like, what did I say to you just before? 676 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 3: I was like, after the event last night, I couldn't 677 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: wait to get back to the fucking hotel and automakers. 678 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: You and Matt literally Matt. Matt was like that goes 679 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: I needed so lucky or chips or. 680 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: Like, And I was like, why don't you just go 681 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: to Woolies, mate, There's a Woolworst right there. 682 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: We can get you some healthy stacks and he's like, 683 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm getting chips, Yeah, got on or whatever you need? Balance? Yes, completely. 684 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: So You've had a really incredible year and I feel 685 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: very I've known about you for a while, but I 686 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: feel very lucky to have like you and I've just 687 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: been too little, like meant. 688 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: To have met people. I agree, But what's next for you? Like, 689 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: I feel like they've got. 690 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: Been another book in the works, hosting TV stuff. 691 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: You've done a reality. 692 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: TV too, I have, Oh my god, and I just 693 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: suppressed that memory because it was shocking. 694 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: I'll never do reality TV. I'm petrified in reality it's 695 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: so scary. 696 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, TV is the dream in terms of like 697 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 3: hosting it, and I'm literally manifesting that and have been 698 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 3: for a while. I'm open to whatever the universe is 699 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 3: going to give to me. That's That's where I'm at 700 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: at the moment. A book, yeah, one hundred percent. There's 701 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: definitely some talk behind the scenes. I can't go into 702 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: detail too much. And also cards as well too, in 703 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: like little affirmation cards. So I mean, there's lots happening, 704 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: but the last few years have been so busy that 705 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: I'm just at a point where I'm like, cool, it 706 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 3: will happen when it's supposed to happen. I'm not pushing 707 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: for anything at the moment. 708 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 2: I could see you doing a biography, like an autobiography, yeah, 709 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: maybe one day. 710 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: Or off to the side, maybe one day. 711 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: And I think affirmation cards are so cool something. 712 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: That you use daily exactly. 713 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: So for anybody listening to this that might be like, ah, 714 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: you know, this is a human that just lives their truth, 715 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: lives there, lives their dreams, and like, isn't afraid of 716 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: chasing their dreams. You know a lot of people the 717 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: fear gets in the way. What would your advice speed 718 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: is someone that's got a dream or a goal or 719 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 2: an aspiration and they're just kind of a bit scared 720 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: of taking that first step. 721 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, seriously, just do it. I know that's 722 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: like the cliche thing, but like for context, I quit 723 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 3: my corporate secure nearly ten year job during a pandemic 724 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: because I wanted to pursue everything that I'm doing now, 725 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: And in the backup my mind, I literally just kept saying, 726 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 3: what is the worst that's going to happen? You go 727 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 3: and get a job at like a retail store, what's 728 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 3: the worst is going to happen. If you do not 729 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: give this a go, you will live with regret. 730 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've just got to do it. Yeah, I'm 731 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: so big on not having regrets. 732 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 2: It's like my ultimate I don't want to be on 733 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: my deskbed and be like what if I went to 734 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: America and drive to me act like what? 735 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: I don't want that. 736 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: No worry, you just got to do it. Life's too short. 737 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and roll with it is hard. I think chasing 738 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: your dreams isn't easy. And I think, like. 739 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: You've written a book before, it's hard exactly right. 740 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: The edit's back and forth and your heart's in the 741 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: book and then there's a cut here and you're like. 742 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: What's going on? My baby? 743 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: Literally and it's hard. 744 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 2: Like I don't want to sugarcoat it for people going, 745 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 2: but chasing dreams is hard. 746 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: But I think you never regret it, Like. 747 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you never you never go oh regret writing that book, 748 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 2: Oh regret bringing out those affirmations you actually like even 749 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 2: the experience of doing that really hard thing is like 750 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: so rewarding. I saw a beautiful, very famous screenwriter in 751 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: La the week before I came back, and he's a 752 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: prevalent run seventy two years old, and he goes, you're 753 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 2: either writing or you're nut and I was like, oh 754 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: and being a writer myself and hit me in the 755 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 2: heart and I was like, oh, I've wrote this book. 756 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 2: I haven't been working on it. And I was like, 757 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm not writing at the moment, you know. And I 758 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 2: was just like, shit, I'm a writer, like right, and 759 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 2: just like day, Like, if it's something you're passionate about, 760 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 2: like something little towards it daily, don't you reckon? 761 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: I agree, And something that's going to like exactly, those 762 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 3: little things are going to feel your fire. 763 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 764 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 2: It's like an acting teacher once said to me, if 765 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: you've got a spark in your chest, you just got 766 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 2: to fan those fan those flames. 767 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: Mate. Can we please stay friends forever? 768 00:36:59,320 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 769 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: You're amazing. 770 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: I get not to toot my own home, but I 771 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 2: get a few people pitched me for this pod, and I'm. 772 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: Very particular now. Want legends, want legends here I am, 773 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: and so I know truly I mean it. 774 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so so much. It's been an honor to 775 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 2: have you on and you've absolutely brightened Mad. 776 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: I know how exhausted you are. 777 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 3: We both are. 778 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 2: Well. I think you might be a bit more than me. 779 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: You've been working your butt off, so thank you so much. 780 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: Honored to have you on the pod, my. 781 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 3: Friend, thank you, thanks for having me. 782 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: You're awesome. 783 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. 784 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: As always, thank you to our. 785 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 2: Guests and let's continue the conversation on Instagram. 786 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: I'm at Gyumo lollaberry. 787 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 2: This potty my word for podcast is available. 788 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: On all streaming platforms. 789 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: I'd love it if you could subscribe, rate and comment 790 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 2: and of course spread the loud.