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Speaker 1: Bruce Hopo Hopkins. You know, I'm from Bondai Rescue. He

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Speaker 1: is also a Swim Safer Ambassador, and with it being

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Speaker 1: that time a year and some alarming research about kids

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Speaker 1: not learning to swim, he's joining us. Now, Hopkins, can

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Speaker 1: you hear us?

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Speaker 2: We got to Yeah, I can hear.

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Speaker 3: For some reason there was a gremlin in the machine.

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Speaker 3: But no longer you are.

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Speaker 1: The Swim Safer Ambassador and we're hearing of some alarming

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Speaker 1: you research that says kids aren't learning to swim. Why not?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is alarming the research something that we've come

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Speaker 2: together with Float to Survive and Swim Safe a week

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Speaker 2: and you know, trying to encourage kids to get out

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Speaker 2: and learn to swim and also learn to float and

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Speaker 2: trying to get that back into the Aussie culture.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. We're not talking about becoming overcoming Libby trick it,

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Speaker 3: are we, mate. We're talking about fundamentals and being able

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Speaker 3: to save your life and just basic swim skills.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the basics, the fundamentals of learning to float,

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Speaker 2: because if you can float, it's going to save your life.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you've fall in any waterway, whether it's

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Speaker 2: a river, lake, dam, a backyard pool or even the ocean.

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Speaker 2: You know, on a rip, if you float in a rip,

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Speaker 2: it'll take you across the sand bank and you'll be

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Speaker 2: able to stand up or where the waves are breaking.

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Speaker 2: So it's just not fighting the water. I think the

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Speaker 2: problem people drowning in Australia now is because they fight

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Speaker 2: the water and just get totally exhausted and then that's

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Speaker 2: when they start swallowing water.

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Speaker 1: This research suggests that one in five wa kids aren't

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Speaker 1: doing swimming lessons because of and I quote cost of living,

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Speaker 1: the cost of living crisis that everyone talks about all

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Speaker 1: the time. But hobbo, why does it have to be

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Speaker 1: Why can't their parents teach them to swim, or someone

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Speaker 1: who knows how to swim teach people to swim. Why

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Speaker 1: does it always have to be a cost of living thing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, especially with the float.

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Speaker 2: The floating you can do that because it's a bit

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Speaker 2: of a play thing. You know, you can do that

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Speaker 2: at the beach and do it in the pool. You

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Speaker 2: can do the parents around and it's basically getting that

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Speaker 2: skill where you get the feel of the water and

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Speaker 2: then people like getting the fill of the water without

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Speaker 2: having their head go under because that's where they get scared.

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Speaker 2: So one should learn that float technique. And you know

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Speaker 2: if a child falls in a backyard pool and you've

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Speaker 2: learned that, well, that's going to really help because others

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Speaker 2: be floating there and it gives you more time for

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Speaker 2: someone to rescue as well, if you've been able to

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Speaker 2: just float and stay calm, right.

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Speaker 3: Hypos horrible when human beings become stats. But we have

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Speaker 3: to look at the stats and the drownings on the rise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, drownings are going up, so it's not good news.

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Speaker 2: So that's why you floaters a vive. We're trying to

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Speaker 2: push that message out there because we know that it's

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Speaker 2: been working down here at Bondi. We've been you know,

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Speaker 2: people that have been in rips. We tell them to

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Speaker 2: float and then go with the flow of the water

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Speaker 2: and the ones that listen they end up getting to

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Speaker 2: the sandbank and save themselves. The ones that don't and

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Speaker 2: try and swim and exhaust themselves, we've got to rescue.

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Speaker 2: So reducing our rescues, so if we're reduced here, that

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Speaker 2: should help. If everyone listens and does that all around Australia,

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Speaker 2: we should start reducing the drowning.

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Speaker 1: All right, what's summer around the corner. What are your

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Speaker 1: five steps to surviving a water emergency.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you're in any water, just tilt your head back,

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Speaker 2: stay calm, and that regulates your breathing. And then also

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Speaker 2: just spread your arms and legs. You can move them

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Speaker 2: in a rotating your arms and rotating your legs just

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Speaker 2: to give the buoyancy and the feel of the water.

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Speaker 2: And that gives you time then to yell out or

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Speaker 2: put your hand up for help.

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Speaker 1: And the old never it never hurts to say this

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Speaker 1: enough times, the old rule about rips hopo, what's that?

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Speaker 2: The old rule gest just don't fight the water and

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Speaker 2: then try and come straight back to the beast. That's

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Speaker 2: what people do, is the says they can't stand up.

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Speaker 2: They want to swim directly back to where they were

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Speaker 2: they thought that was a safe spot and that's always

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Speaker 2: back into the rip. So remember this to go with

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Speaker 2: the flow of the water because it's your best.

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Speaker 3: Bet and probably the most frustrating thing for you, you

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Speaker 3: guys and girls who are rescuing people back because that's

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Speaker 3: how people They panic straight away, don't they.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a soonious people can't stand up and then

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Speaker 2: feel the bottom. That's when they go into this mass panic.

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Speaker 2: And the first thing you natural reaction is just to

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Speaker 2: use your arms as hup as you possibly can, and

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Speaker 2: it just totally exhausts you within you know, five to

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Speaker 2: ten seconds, and then that's it. They start swallowing water.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, float to survive three very key words there,

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Speaker 1: because it is about the floating. Thank you hop over

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Speaker 1: for joining us this morning. We are girt by seas.

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Speaker 1: I always say there is no excuse for not learning

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Speaker 1: how to swim, and you don't have to have a

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Speaker 1: fancy go for your bronze medallion swimming lesson. Just get

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Speaker 1: someone to teach your kids the basics.

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Speaker 2: That's right, it's the basic survival skills.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we haven't had some of the hot weather

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Speaker 3: you've had over there yet, but it's on the way mate,

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Speaker 3: So we really appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Hypo, Thanks thanks for having me