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Speaker 1: Good morning. We are coming to live from a trestle

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Speaker 1: table in Sydney's East and it is Friday, the twenty

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Speaker 1: fifth of June. My name is Zara and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by the co founder of The Daily Oz, Sam Koslowski.

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Speaker 1: And Sam, what are we talking about today?

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Speaker 2: We're talking about not only an impending lockdown in New

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Speaker 2: South Wales.

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Speaker 1: Possible impending lockdown and as we speak, I have just

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Speaker 1: gotten my negative results.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there we go. We're also going to

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Speaker 2: be talking about Astrozenka.

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Speaker 1: Some good news about Tanzania.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to deep dive into Britney Spears conservatorship

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Speaker 2: and guardianship in Australia. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: New South Wales hasn't figured out how to report their

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Speaker 1: cases any less confusingly, so let's take you through what

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Speaker 1: we found out yesterday. There were eighteen locally acquired cases

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Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen to eight pm on Wednesday, and thirteen

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Speaker 1: of those cases we knew about on Tuesday. There were

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Speaker 1: then another six new locally acquired cases that we found

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Speaker 1: out about on Thursday morning. And gladysbary Jiclian this to.

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Speaker 3: Say, I'm as upset as anybody frustrated as much as anybody.

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Speaker 3: We all work so hard and it's really disappointing when

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Speaker 3: things don't go the way they should. I live and

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Speaker 3: breathe it every day and I feel it intensely every day.

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Speaker 3: We also rely on tens of thousands of outstanding people

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Speaker 3: every day to do jobs that we wouldn't do to

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Speaker 3: be in contact with people with the virus. So I

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Speaker 3: want to continue to thank from the bottom of my

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Speaker 3: heart all those people who put themselves on the line

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Speaker 3: every day. But I also want to say to those

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Speaker 3: people in and around the system who think complacency is okay,

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Speaker 3: it's not okay.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday was also a big day for New South Wales

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Speaker 1: Parliament because one of the parliamentarians, Agriculture Minister Adam Marshall,

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Speaker 1: tested positive for COVID nineteen, which meant that everyone who

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Speaker 1: had been in his proximity had to get tested, including

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Speaker 1: the Premiere, the Health Minister and Barnaby Joyce. And just quickly,

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Speaker 1: it is not just New South Wales that is battling

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Speaker 1: with some COVID cases. Last night we found out that

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Speaker 1: they are now two positive cases in Victoria linked to

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Speaker 1: a return traveler from Sydney.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep you updated on that in Vaccine News. Australia

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Speaker 2: will phase out the astrosenica COVID nineteen vaccine except on request,

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Speaker 2: from October this year, as it's expected that most people

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Speaker 2: over the age of sixty will be vaccinated by then.

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Speaker 1: And this is the important point because this was going

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Speaker 1: around Twitter and a lot of people were saying that

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Speaker 1: they were worried, having gotten the astrosenica vaccine that it

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Speaker 1: was now being phased out completely. The idea here is

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Speaker 1: that it was always going to be phased out at

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Speaker 1: this time because the government expected everyone over the age

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Speaker 1: of sixty to have received their vaccine by this stage.

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Speaker 2: And it will help that twenty seven point six million

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Speaker 2: doses of Pfizer will be delivered to Australia to immunize

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Speaker 2: the rest of the population from October to December.

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Speaker 1: So Sam and I are going to do a deep

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Speaker 1: dive on this topic a bit later. But Britney Spears

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Speaker 1: addressed a court yesterday regarding her conservatorship, calling it abusive.

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Speaker 1: She alleged that and I quote he loved the control

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Speaker 1: he had over me one hundred thousand percent, speaking about

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Speaker 1: her father, James Spears, who was appointed her conservator in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. This was after a series of

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Speaker 1: really public struggles around her mental health. Spears also told

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Speaker 1: the judge that it was her wish and her dream

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Speaker 1: for the conservatorship to end. We do know that there's

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Speaker 1: another hearing regarding the estate's accounting documents set for July fourteenth.

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Speaker 2: And the end of your week. Good news is from

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Speaker 2: Tanzania where they will offer secondary school dropouts the opportunities

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Speaker 2: to resume studies in alternative colleges. The senior official at

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Speaker 2: the Ministry of Education had this to say, we are

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Speaker 2: offering an alternative path to education to all children who

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Speaker 2: missed their education for any reason, including those girls who

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Speaker 2: got pregnant while in school. Gray, when do we wanting now?

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Speaker 1: Those were the sounds of people chanting free Brittany outside

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Speaker 1: a court case where Britney Spears was for the first

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Speaker 1: time speaking publicly about the power her father holds over her.

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Speaker 1: We did a post on this on our Instagram about

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Speaker 1: what conservator ship actually is and what it means. But Sam,

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Speaker 1: if anyone hasn't read it, can you please just run

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Speaker 1: us through.

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Speaker 2: What it is. So in two thousand and eight, Spears's father,

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Speaker 2: James Spears was appointed her conservator, and that ultimately means

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Speaker 2: he's a representative to manage Britney's personal affairs and her

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Speaker 2: daily life because Britney was deemed to be unable to

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Speaker 1: And why was that.

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Speaker 2: That was because of the mental health issues that were

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Speaker 2: very public in around two thousand and eight. Since about

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, Spears has been trying to remove her father

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Speaker 2: as her conservator. It's an incredibly complex legal arrangement with

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Speaker 2: incredibly complex legal processes to get something like that overturned.

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Speaker 2: So it's no surprise really that it's taken many years

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Speaker 2: for it to reach a point where Britney can actually

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Speaker 1: And before we go any further, I wanted to read

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Speaker 1: out a tweet that I read yesterday that really resonated

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Speaker 1: because it's not often that we talk about pop stars

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Speaker 1: on this podcast. It's not often we write about pop

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Speaker 1: stars on our Instagram. But the reason that this is

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Speaker 1: so important is because, as someone from The Guardian wrote,

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Speaker 1: it is interesting because she is so famous, because they've

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Speaker 1: been able to get away with this in the public eye.

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Speaker 1: To a woman who has the superficial trappings of power,

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Speaker 1: what happens to women who aren't known. How much worse

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Speaker 1: could it be if this abuse wasn't full And that

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Speaker 1: was a tweet from Carla Wildquist from The Guardian. We

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Speaker 1: heard things yesterday from the court about how Brittany had

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Speaker 1: wanted to expand her family and have more children, but

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Speaker 1: that she had had an IUD, which is a form

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Speaker 1: of contraception inserted so that she didn't feel pregnant, and

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Speaker 1: that she wasn't under the conservator ship allowed to make

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Speaker 1: an appointment with a doctor to get it removed. This

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Speaker 1: was just one of many anecdotes that she recalled that

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Speaker 1: really pulled into focus why this is such a big issue.

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Speaker 2: So we actually have a very similar system in Australia

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Speaker 2: of guardianship, and you'll notice the difference in names between

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Speaker 2: conservatorship and guardianship. And whilst in Australia, like in the US,

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Speaker 2: the rules vary from state to state, the general notions

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Speaker 2: are pretty similar. A really interesting legal point that has

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Speaker 2: kind of not been talked about that much in the

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Speaker 2: news is the two different types of conservatorship in the US. Now,

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Speaker 2: in the US and in California specifically where the Spears

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Speaker 2: case is playing out, you can have a conservator of

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Speaker 2: the estate and of the person. So some people might

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Speaker 2: be deemed to be incapacitated just to make the financial decisions,

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Speaker 2: but they can still have control over their body, like

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Speaker 2: what you were talking about before. In Spears's case, she's

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Speaker 2: been ruled to not be in control of both her

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Speaker 1: And how long has this been going on? Because we're

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Speaker 1: only hearing about it. I feel like the Free Brittany

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Speaker 2: So the Free Britney movement has been around for almost

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Speaker 2: ten years now. So to take you back to two

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Speaker 2: thousand and eight, that's when the conservatorship was first tabled,

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Speaker 2: and it was tabled as a temporary conservatorship that lasted

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Speaker 2: seventy two hours when Spears had a breakdown.

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Speaker 1: And here we are in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Here we are in twenty twenty one. Now, the issue

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Speaker 2: that many Britney fans latched onto that gave birth to

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Speaker 2: the Free Britney movement was that even though she had

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Speaker 2: this really restrictive conservatorship over her, she was performing and

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Speaker 2: she was releasing songs, and she was making a lot

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Speaker 2: of money, and that money was of course going to

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Speaker 2: her father, not her that sparked the Free Britney movement,

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Speaker 2: and it's really just taken six or seven years for

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Speaker 2: that to come through the court system to where we

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Speaker 1: As I said when we open this discussion, it's not

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Speaker 1: just about some small thing that affects a pop start.

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Speaker 1: It is about having power over seemingly a woman's finances,

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Speaker 1: her life and also her body. So it's really really

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Speaker 1: significant and it's a legal challenge that will certainly lead

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Speaker 1: to precedent being formed and we'll guide a lot of

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Speaker 2: And we've seen incredible traffic on our stories covering this

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Speaker 2: topic on Instagram, and we all seem to really care.

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Speaker 2: They really care, and it's something that we'll keep reporting

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Speaker 2: on as the case moves through the courts, which I

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Speaker 2: don't expect to be a short time. That's all we've

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Speaker 2: got time for on the Daily OS this week, but

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Speaker 2: we just wanted to thank you for joining us. As always, we'll.

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Speaker 1: Be on Instagram on the weekend giving you updates on

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Speaker 1: the COVID situation across the country and on anything else

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Speaker 1: you might want to know about. Slide into our DMS

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Speaker 1: if there's anything in particular you want to learn more about.

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Speaker 1: Until then, have a fabulous, safe weekend