1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: Now we've been talking about ambulance wait times this morning 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: and they're certainly back on the agenda after was revealed 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: by the ABC News earlier this week that a Darwin 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: dancer waited for more than six hours for an ambulance 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: to arrive after dislocating her knee at a dance competition 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: on Saturday. So, twenty year old Banique Drives fell to 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: the ground and started screaming in pain at about eight 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: fifteen pm. Now she was told by emergency call operators 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: or her mum, was to stay pushed until paramedics arrived. 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: The problem is that ambulance didn't arrive for hours. Now, 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Monique and her mum, Rebecca, joined me in the studio 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: this morning. Good morning to you both, Thanks so much 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: for your time. 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: Good morning, thank you. 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Now, Monique, what happened on Saturday night? 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 3: So I was coming to the end of my routine 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: and I went to go do my first lunch and 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: I assume money is like hyper extend and back and 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: then it's just like let and slapped the floor and 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: assume when it did that, it's just like popped my 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: knee cap out. 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Goodness me, So it's dislocated, you know, Yes, what happened next? 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: You've obviously fallen to the ground and screamed in pain 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: and then laid there. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was laying there holding my knee. It wasn't 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: until I looked at it till I realized like, okay, 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: this is something more than just like a twined muscle 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: or something. And everyone like that was there didn't know 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: what was happening until like they saw it. 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: Mannie, can you describe for me what that pain like 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: felt like? Have you ever have you experienced something like 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: that before? 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 3: So this is my first major injury to myself. It 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: was really painful. Like I don't think like a sprain 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: ankle is nothing compared to what yea and dissocated news. 36 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: And so what happened next? Rebecca? From your perspective, I'm 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: assuming you've I've seen your daughter go down and thought, 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, what's happened here? What happened next? 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: So we contacted an ambulance to come and give some assistance, 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: and we were told like they were pretty busy for 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: the night. We were ringing them every hour for the 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: first couple of hours. Then after about four hours, we 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: decided to try and move her ourselves because I made it. 44 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: One of the phone calls, I had asked the operator 45 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: if it would be easier if we did try and 46 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: move her, and they did tell us that was a 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: choice that only I could make, and I thought, well, 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: we didn't know how long it was going to be, 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: so I thought, well, I would try at least to 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: get her some help that she needed. We ended up 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: getting her onto a luggage trolley that the hotel had 52 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: let us use, but then realized because her knee was 53 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: like her leg was at like a right angle, so 54 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: we couldn't actually fit her in the car once we 55 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: got downstairs into the lobby. 56 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: Oh, that's making me sort of WinCE in pain just 57 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: thinking about it and thinking about you guys trying. 58 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: To do that. 59 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you must have felt, you know, like I look 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: at it from a real mom perspective as well, and 61 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: my daughter's a few years younger. You must have felt 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: pretty helpless in that moment, thinking I want to do 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: everything I can to help my daughter. 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: Definitely, it was quite confronting as a parent to see. 65 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: And then I ended up bringing the email and service 66 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: again about two thirty in the morning and just asking 67 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: them if it was okay if I could give her 68 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: some pain relief just to try and help until they 69 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: could get to us. They said that that would be 70 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: fine because they didn't know how long it was gonna be. 71 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: And then probably an hour after we gave pain relief, 72 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: they managed to turn up, which was really great. 73 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: We spoke to Saint John a little bit earlier this 74 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: morning and they said that they've been in contact with 75 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: you guys or they've spoken to you guys, and that 76 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: they had four crews that were you know that our 77 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: emergency ambulances on Saturday night. I believe they had about 78 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: thirty two different categorized incidents, so no doubt they were 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: really busy. But they also revealed that they've spent two 80 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: thousand hours over the last three months ramping at the hospital. 81 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: Now I know that when you guys arrived, you then 82 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: you were outside the hospital in the ambulance as well. 83 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: Weren't you for quite some time? Is that right? 84 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? Like they got me inside and we like I 85 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: was probably laying there in their bed from the ambulance 86 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 3: for like a good thirty minutes waiting for a free 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: bed to go get an extray done on my knee 88 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: because we tried to get an extra done in the 89 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: bed from the ambulance and they couldn't get the best results, 90 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: so they had to train. 91 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: So it sounds like they really tried to sort of 92 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: do all that they could once you got into their care. 93 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah they did. 94 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean look for you guys, what does it 95 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: sort of what does it demonstrate for you going through 96 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: the situation over the weekend, Because for me, I heard 97 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: it and I've spoken to other parents as well who've 98 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: called for an ambulance after an injury at you know, 99 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: a basketball game, at a footy match, Who've had to 100 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: wait for quite some time. And it indicates to me 101 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: that our ambulance systems Saint John are under a lot 102 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: of pressure and they're bloody busy, but our health system 103 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: is you know, equally under pressure, and it means that 104 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: people like yourself, Monik, are waiting for hours to be 105 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: able to get in. Like what do you think it 106 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: sort of shows you about the health system and about 107 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, the way in which things are operating right 108 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: now across the Northern Territory. 109 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: I reckon they need a lot more help, and not 110 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: from just us as a public, but from the government 111 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 3: and like more money to be able to get the 112 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: fundings for the hospital and the ambulance services. 113 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think, mam? 114 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the same, Like we need to invest 115 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: more in the house system and the emergency services because 116 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: everyone is doing it tough out there, and we have 117 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: got nothing negative to say about any of the service 118 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: that we got because it was all one hundred percent. 119 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: It was fantastic, but it was just that, like that 120 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: waiting period. But if we don't talk about it, nothing's 121 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: going to change. So that's why we thought, well, hey, no, 122 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: we need to speak up and say, you know, this 123 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: is not okay. 124 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: Good on you guys, because I know it can be 125 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: difficult putting yourself out of your comfort zone and speaking publicly, 126 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: particularly after you've gone through what is a really traumatic event, 127 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: but your spot on. You know, if you don't speak 128 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: about it, and if the government isn't aware of the 129 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: pressures that everyday Territorians are then being placed under as 130 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: a result of those stresses to our health system, then 131 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: nothing will ever change. 132 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: No, that's exactly right. It's just yeah, very frustrating. 133 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 134 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: I feel for the employees of Saint John one hundred 135 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 2: percent more than what I feel for us, because I 136 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: know how hard that they do do it. 137 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, look, how long are you gonna be off 138 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: your leg now? In terms of your dancing. 139 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: Probably six weeks, but I'm hoping a lot shorter. Yeah, 140 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: get back quicker. 141 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: So tell me were you I mean, I'll get to 142 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: the nitty gritty now that we've gone through the real 143 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: serious stuff. Will you compete? Was it a competition or 144 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: was it a you know, like an exam? What was it? 145 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: So it was an actual competition where they've come up 146 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: from all parts of Australia. Like, this was my fifth 147 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: one for the season, and it was like the last 148 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: one and it was my last dance. I'm probably happy 149 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: that the dance was that section was the last one 150 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: from the other three I did. Yeah, probably worked out 151 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: in my favor. 152 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: Oh goodness me your poor thing right at the end 153 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: as well. So did you get like did you get 154 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, a score or anything or what should hurt yourself? 155 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: That was it? 156 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: So from all my other routines, I had a lower 157 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: score from that, but from the one that I injured myself, 158 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: I got like eighty seven point five. 159 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: Oh wow, so you did really well, true champion. 160 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: I reckon definitely. 161 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: I've never still three of us girls, but I was 162 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: gone on Place third anyway, but they still okay. Showed 163 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: up the next day and everyone was just like, so surprised, 164 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: how I come backlash. 165 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: That's beautiful, still showing up, still being there to support 166 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: your mates as well, and to support everybody despite what 167 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: you'd gone through the night before, your little legend. That's awesome. Hey, 168 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: thank you both so much for joining me in the 169 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: studio this morning. I really appreciate it. 170 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, Patie, thank you