Speaker 1: Hey, Legends, Welcome back to the Mason cock Show. Today's
Speaker 1: guest or a very very good friend of mine and
Speaker 1: someone I cannot wait to get into this chat with.
Speaker 1: They are a real estate agent, Adelaide, Adelaid, premiership player
Speaker 1: at Channel seven, commentator Australia's traveling no about as I
Speaker 1: like to say sas, and survivor, contestant, owner of the
Speaker 1: clothing brand Blindside, and many many more things we'll get into.
Speaker 1: But it is a good friend, Abbi Halmes. Now we
Speaker 1: just talked about this.
Speaker 2: The carrot cake is going to be a here's my
Speaker 2: carrot cake.
Speaker 1: There's a whole thing between us now. I make a
Speaker 1: mean carrot cake for those people out there, very good
Speaker 1: icing just and that's going to be my payment for
Speaker 1: you helping me out today.
Speaker 3: And I'm very upset that it's not right here in
Speaker 3: front of us.
Speaker 1: I've let you down. Yeah, it's a great start to
Speaker 1: this event.
Speaker 3: But I honestly cannot give high enough praise for your
Speaker 3: carrot cake.
Speaker 2: I hate the word moist.
Speaker 3: I hate it, but your carrot cake is like the
Speaker 3: most perfect level of moisteness.
Speaker 2: That they could possibly be in a case.
Speaker 1: We've said moist twice now, three times. I think people
Speaker 1: worked to I will say this. Matt Preston was on
Speaker 1: the podcast. I still think you didn't like it. Carrot
Speaker 1: Cake and everything. Yep, tried it. I think he wasn't
Speaker 1: as impressed. Well, it's a tough crowd to please whever
Speaker 1: it's Matt Preston obviously, so maybe our palette's just not
Speaker 1: as refined as the great mister Preston. I want to
Speaker 1: start this off. You've got a crazy life and I've
Speaker 1: known you pretty well over the past few years and
Speaker 1: the amount of stuff you do is insane. Now I
Speaker 1: want to ask you this, like as a kid growing
Speaker 1: up looking at yourself now, like, could you have fathomed
Speaker 1: you being in the position you are now?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, And I'm a big one for sliding doors moments.
Speaker 3: I love that, Like, you know what if you didn't,
Speaker 3: if you didn't go out to this combine, well you
Speaker 3: know we wouldn't be here to you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But I was a realistic agent only when what twenty fourteen,
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen selling houses up in the territory and yeah,
Speaker 3: just through you know, a number of I guess achievements
Speaker 3: in the footy world got thrown into a completely different
Speaker 3: landscape in media and you know, flown down for the
Speaker 3: Footy show and playing in Legends games and just thrown
Speaker 3: in front of a camera and behind microphones on radio
Speaker 3: and that kind of thing. So to think that, you know,
Speaker 3: over the last ten years in particular, how much my life.
Speaker 2: Has changed, it really does blow my mind.
Speaker 3: And I pinch myself on a day to day basis
Speaker 3: because I can honestly see here and say to you
Speaker 3: right now that I'm living my dream. It honestly feels
Speaker 3: like I never work a day in my life, even
Speaker 3: though I'm a hustler and I grind every day, but
Speaker 3: it honestly feels like I don't work a day in
Speaker 3: my life because I legitimately love everything that I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hustler is the number one word I think of
Speaker 1: whenever I think of Abbi Holmes. And You're never not
Speaker 1: doing anything. I mean, we drove here and I said,
Speaker 1: what are you up to? And you just like, I'm
Speaker 1: just busy. I'm just busy, And that's so y, I
Speaker 1: do know what.
Speaker 3: That's one of my pet peeves is when you go
Speaker 3: how are you and people say busy, and it's like.
Speaker 2: I just I just really genuinely busy though, did that
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 3: And I'm so oh sorry, But I said to you,
Speaker 3: I can't believe we're already heading into round sixteen of
Speaker 3: the AFL. Like once you get into the grind of
Speaker 3: you know, round one, round two, round three, one, three, eight,
Speaker 3: it all just blends into one and to you blink
Speaker 3: and you're at round sixteen. It's unbelievable. But as I said,
Speaker 3: I'm a die hard, you know, footy lover.
Speaker 2: I love the game. I know the game, I played
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 3: So to think that it's my job to sit there
Speaker 3: on the sidelines and talk smack, really it really is
Speaker 3: a dream.
Speaker 1: He told me earlier years before you got into this,
Speaker 1: that you consider yourself. One thing people don't really know
Speaker 1: about you is you can consider yourself. And I quote
Speaker 1: this from you because I had to question the word
Speaker 1: a shazzar y chaza jazzar chaza. Sorry there's an a
Speaker 1: in the I don't know, I just the Australian language,
Speaker 1: but yeah, a shaza. You had to try to explain
Speaker 1: that to me. Is what about you makes you a shazar?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just you knock about I don't know gal
Speaker 3: who I'm not much of a city girl. To be honest,
Speaker 3: not too many people would actually know that about me.
Speaker 3: I would prefer to be you know, remote in an
Speaker 3: indigenous community out in the middle of nowhere with red dirt.
Speaker 3: Then I would be, you know, going shopping in downtown
Speaker 3: Melbourne or anything like that. I think you could describe
Speaker 3: it as a little bit of a bogan, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a tough, classy, a classy bogan.
Speaker 3: Can we go there like a chaser, Well, i'd say
Speaker 3: Clay a classy bogan.
Speaker 2: Maybe let's jazz it off a little bit.
Speaker 1: Okay, classy boger. We will get into the NT stuff
Speaker 1: and everything else, but I want to start off, like
Speaker 1: a lot of people know you for your commentating at
Speaker 1: the moment, obviously doing AFL W and AFL and you're
Speaker 1: constantly on television left, right and center, and we'll get
Speaker 1: into the Survivor and sas and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But the thing you're doing at the moment, and the
Speaker 1: thing that's why I've taking up most of your time
Speaker 1: is coming commentating, and I want to dive into a
Speaker 1: bit of the background. So a lot of people see
Speaker 1: you and they say, okay, yep, she makes comments here
Speaker 1: and there. Yes, you know she's in the MTV, but
Speaker 1: people don't understand the meticulous nature behind it and how
Speaker 1: on you have to be on television. There's no re
Speaker 1: records or anything else. It is pure live, so you
Speaker 1: can't screw it up, and you have to know all
Speaker 1: of your facts and make sure they're all correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what all.
Speaker 1: Goes into Like explain to me the start of your
Speaker 1: weekend before you get into the footy.
Speaker 2: Live television is a pretty scary place.
Speaker 3: Sometimes petrifying if you make a mistake, like it goes
Speaker 3: to a nation.
Speaker 2: And trust me, they are bloody, relentless Twitter and people
Speaker 2: come for you.
Speaker 3: If you pronounce something wrong or you get something wrong
Speaker 3: and mix in a number that's not right, they'll let
Speaker 3: you know. But yeah, you're right, everybody kind of sees
Speaker 3: you on game day on screen, but there is so
Speaker 3: much more that goes into it than that. We're always
Speaker 3: getting sent stats from you know, the champion data guys
Speaker 3: and legends, and you're always kind of just.
Speaker 2: Working your way through it.
Speaker 3: And as I said, watching press conferences, pregame, postgame, I
Speaker 3: try and come at it from a little bit more
Speaker 3: of a personal point of view, so like it's my
Speaker 3: responsibility and I don't take this life lead to bring
Speaker 3: the I guess, the emotion from the players into the
Speaker 3: lound rooms of all Australians across the country. I don't
Speaker 3: want to go up to a player and just talk
Speaker 3: to them about you know, how many contested marks Mason
Speaker 3: Cox took and you know riveting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I want to delve into the individual a little bit more.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I really try and bring that to the
Speaker 3: broadcast sense. But as I said, I'm a die hard
Speaker 3: footy fan, so it doesn't feel like work for me.
Speaker 3: But when you actually strip it back and you look
Speaker 3: at how many hours commentators do spend kind of nutting,
Speaker 3: nutting out and working at their craft, it's pretty unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Do you have help kind of like on game day,
Speaker 1: like I feel like the behind the scenes, like before
Speaker 1: a game, you would sit there and you've talked about
Speaker 1: this with me, is you go and watch every single
Speaker 1: game games before, try to figure out satistical stuff about
Speaker 1: each single player so whenever it comes up in the game,
Speaker 1: you can instantly go, bang, I've got a fact for that, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like in the moment of the heat of the games,
Speaker 1: is anyone else that's kind of like helping you. Like,
Speaker 1: I think about these ear pieces, right, and like, what's
Speaker 1: going on in this ear the biggest secrets? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just chaos behind it. And then you just have
Speaker 1: to be calm collective, like someone's not screaming in your ear.
Speaker 1: That's seven different things are going on at the same time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So obviously we've got our produce so that talks in
Speaker 3: a year, that that produces the entire game, you know,
Speaker 3: and they've got to hit things down to the second.
Speaker 3: But we've also got some pretty very very handy and
Speaker 3: incredible stats people. We'll always have one on with us
Speaker 3: per game. Josh Ka Swamp, the two that we use
Speaker 3: at seven and they are absolute gurus.
Speaker 1: So they just crunching numbers in the backgrounding away yep, yep.
Speaker 3: And and look we've all done a prep so we've
Speaker 3: all got numbers in our head.
Speaker 2: But if it's you know, first.
Speaker 3: Of the moment and you just need to know how
Speaker 3: many contested marks, Mason Cox has boom swamp.
Speaker 1: Swamp up to the box, swampy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, swamp Abs, and he'll be like, yes, Abs, I said,
Speaker 3: how many contested marks?
Speaker 2: Is Mason Cox. He goes he's got seventeen seventy take
Speaker 2: that slight down.
Speaker 3: And that's how quick they are, you know what I mean, Like, yes,
Speaker 3: they've got a computer and everything in front of them
Speaker 3: as well, but these guys are incredible minds.
Speaker 2: You know that they know.
Speaker 3: Basically every stat that there is in terms of history
Speaker 3: of the game, and you know clubs and where they
Speaker 3: sit with certain things from a week to eat basis.
Speaker 2: They're unbelievable. So we're very lucky to have them.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a moment like we do Clanger
Speaker 1: of the Week on this podcast every single week, what's
Speaker 1: like the biggest one that you've just like either if
Speaker 1: it's personally you or it's like the production team just
Speaker 1: like no one knows what's going on. It's just chaos,
Speaker 1: like all over the tib Well.
Speaker 3: I'll talk about one early days in just a moment,
Speaker 3: but lights out at the Gabba in.
Speaker 1: Round two, I got they're not even in person there,
Speaker 1: weren't they like they were in Melbourne.
Speaker 3: So so I honestly had to feel for twenty eight
Speaker 3: minutes and with nothing, and I remember the our director
Speaker 3: at the time counting us back in from a break
Speaker 3: and she's going teen T nine eight five four.
Speaker 2: And I'm gone, what are we talking about?
Speaker 3: And they're like, we don't know, just talk and I'm like,
Speaker 3: welcome back to the gabo with the lights are out,
Speaker 3: and it's like you know that like the duck with
Speaker 3: the little.
Speaker 2: Legs swimming underneath it. Then you guys just see this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was insane. But I remember early days, I
Speaker 3: was doing well. I was working for Channel seven with
Speaker 3: the VFL coverage. That's that's where I first kind of
Speaker 3: got my got my opportunity with seven. And thankfully this
Speaker 3: was only in a rehearsal, and we rehearsed for a reason, but.
Speaker 2: I remember them.
Speaker 1: You know. It was.
Speaker 3: Jason Bennett, Nigel Carmeny talking, talking, talking through to me,
Speaker 3: and I knew exactly what I wanted to say and
Speaker 3: how I want to say it, and who I was
Speaker 3: talking about and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But they threw to me and I just.
Speaker 3: Went completely and utterly blank, like I'm just looking down
Speaker 3: the barrel of the camera, just wanting to sink into
Speaker 3: the ground, just wanting to fall into some black hole.
Speaker 2: Tell you they were alive, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then I just had nothing on you. Oh
Speaker 3: my God, so that has been but you know what,
Speaker 3: it's these things that make you better.
Speaker 2: Hopefully hopefully learn from.
Speaker 1: Stronger.
Speaker 3: Yeah so no, there's As I said, live television can
Speaker 3: be a pretty brutal place sometimes, but we've all had him.
Speaker 1: Is there anything, like, you know, obviously you've worked with
Speaker 1: the lights of people like Brian Taylor, who is somewhat
Speaker 1: controversial attied we could say we love VT here. Is
Speaker 1: there anything that he's dying that sticks out in your
Speaker 1: head that you just go, oh, wow, we're going to
Speaker 1: roll with this.
Speaker 2: Well, that's effectively roaming Bryan.
Speaker 1: I was like a million episodes of that.
Speaker 3: You cannot produce roaming Brian, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like you're in a very happy environment where siders obviously
Speaker 3: just want a game of footage. You're with the friends,
Speaker 3: the family, the fans, supporters, so you just never know
Speaker 3: what he's going to come out of the mouth of
Speaker 3: anybody that Brian gets his hands on. But that's the
Speaker 3: best thing about it, and that's why we love roaming
Speaker 3: Brian and is that it's so authentic and real.
Speaker 1: Does he just get unleashed or does he just he
Speaker 1: has no direction? He just goes, oh, here's the room.
Speaker 3: They basically just hand over the rains to him. Yeah, gosh,
Speaker 3: that's talent, it is and that's.
Speaker 2: Not you know what.
Speaker 3: So BT the other day, I can't remember who had played,
Speaker 3: but it was a Friday night at the g We're
Speaker 3: in the winning side rooms and he said, Abs, do
Speaker 3: you just want to go and go and find someone
Speaker 3: and have a chat, like if I need a chop out?
Speaker 2: And I was like no. I was like, what do
Speaker 2: you mean, what do you mean, Bt, what do you
Speaker 2: mean just go and speak to someone? Rand it?
Speaker 3: And I said to him afterwards, I said, I got overwhelmed.
Speaker 3: It freaked me out. I don't know how you do it,
Speaker 3: and it is. It's such a skill for him to
Speaker 3: be able to go up to anybody and just have
Speaker 3: a question ready and to get some of the absolute
Speaker 3: gold that he gets out of these people. I absolutely
Speaker 3: love roaming Brian.
Speaker 1: I like, I love these names because the people have
Speaker 1: got to know over the years, and like it is
Speaker 1: insane the stuff that I see him say on to Vision,
Speaker 1: like some of.
Speaker 2: The wowyes, wow, poor boy.
Speaker 3: There's lots of old boys in particularly from our probably
Speaker 3: production truck with the producers just going like oh uh, well.
Speaker 1: You mentioned in your early days obviously getting into commentating
Speaker 1: in the vfl W actually the vfl W, r VFL
Speaker 1: VFL Sorry, And I just feel like, like any advice
Speaker 1: for anyone that's going out there in the media world
Speaker 1: that wants to become someone like yourself, who's you know,
Speaker 1: looking to go down that path, you know, and those
Speaker 1: initial steps are always I feel like the hardest. Is
Speaker 1: there any advice you would give someone that's coming out
Speaker 1: there and wanting to do the same thing.
Speaker 3: Just say yes to every single opportunity that presents itself.
Speaker 3: And you know, I say that to everybody because I
Speaker 3: am living proof of what that can do. So, as
Speaker 3: I said, I was a real estate agent up into
Speaker 3: o and kicked the hundred, got thrown into this this
Speaker 3: world that I knew nothing about in terms of TV
Speaker 3: and radio. Worked out very very quickly that I had
Speaker 3: a massive passion for that area. And there wasn't too
Speaker 3: many women working in the footy broadcasting space at the moment.
Speaker 3: There certainly was some, you know, Caroline Wilson, Sam Lane,
Speaker 3: There's been some amazing ladies that have really helped kind
Speaker 3: of pave the way for other people coming through. But
Speaker 3: I identified that there wasn't too many you know players,
Speaker 3: Whoman's players that were involved, Daisy Pierce obviously as well,
Speaker 3: but that was an area that I really wanted to
Speaker 3: get get into. As I said, I love footy, I
Speaker 3: know the game of played the game, and I was
Speaker 3: just hell bent to making a career and to following
Speaker 3: that path, and every single opportunity that presented itself, I
Speaker 3: said yes too. I had to borrow money from my family.
Speaker 3: I had to borrow money from my sister. I had
Speaker 3: to you know, ask for five hundred dollars so that
Speaker 3: I could book a flight to come down to Melbourne
Speaker 3: to have a meeting with someone about an opportunity and
Speaker 3: get back to dar When I was living in dal
Speaker 3: One at the time. I remember my I don't think
Speaker 3: I've ever told anyone this. I remember getting home in Darwin.
Speaker 3: I bought a place out there, was struggling to pay
Speaker 3: my mortgage. But I got home and my power was off. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I like, god, it makes me teary here, but
Speaker 3: I'm like I had to ring my mum and just
Speaker 3: be like Mom, like my powers off, and She's like, oh,
Speaker 3: just come home, like come to Mum's living up there
Speaker 3: and I'm like, God, like, it's all of these things
Speaker 3: that people don't actually realize is how much that you
Speaker 3: do put into put into growing and following a pathway
Speaker 3: and chasing opportunities. So I'm living proof that if you
Speaker 3: do that, then you can end up somewhere pretty special.
Speaker 1: She's always i'd have been a rude awakening.
Speaker 3: Especially in Darwin when it's a million degrees. So Mom's like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, come home, darling.
Speaker 1: Please please just just go to a nice courthouse. It's
Speaker 1: it's crazy, and I want to go back to the
Speaker 1: commotating side of things, like you have some amazing people
Speaker 1: that have kind of helped mentor yourself. You know, you
Speaker 1: talked about the Hamishes, I talk about BT's and all that, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, who's been the most influential from that act
Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of people see, you know,
Speaker 1: females and commentating. It's quite new, like there's not as
Speaker 1: many people in that industry. I feel like that are
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. It's really you and Daisy of
Speaker 1: the two that really come to mind. You know, early days,
Speaker 1: was there anyone that kind of was like a mentor
Speaker 1: in your sense that helped you kind of be able
Speaker 1: to guide you in the right direction and give you
Speaker 1: advice along the way.
Speaker 2: Hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Gary O'Keefe, who's the executive producer of the AFL at seven,
Speaker 3: he gave me my first opportunity in the VFL with seven,
Speaker 3: you know, putting a really green How old was I then,
Speaker 3: like twenty five year old or twenty four year old
Speaker 3: on screen in live television?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, exactly right, let's see how this goes.
Speaker 3: Jayce Bennett, Nigel Carmedy, Campbell Brown are the VFL call
Speaker 3: team and they've been unbelievable for my development as well
Speaker 3: in those early years. But I remember Gazz would bring
Speaker 3: me after every broadcast and just say, Abs, like you
Speaker 3: did this really well? Perhaps work on this.
Speaker 2: Don't do that all right, you know anything that sticks out?
Speaker 2: Just like please?
Speaker 1: Did I go dear in the headline first?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, But you know he's been so critical for
Speaker 3: me in terms of my growth and development and confidence
Speaker 3: in all honesty, like he's really, I guess, taken an
Speaker 3: interest in my development and continued to kind of work with.
Speaker 2: Me along the journey as well.
Speaker 3: And I certainly wouldn't be here, you know, where I
Speaker 3: am today without the guidance and support from him, you know,
Speaker 3: Glennie Postel, Dan Edwards. There's so many amazing producers at
Speaker 3: seven which ultimately make us look good if you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. But yeah, on screen, as I said,
Speaker 3: like Hamish, particularly last year for me with the com Games,
Speaker 3: it was my first kind of big, you know, GLO
Speaker 3: global kind of hosting opportunity, and he was awesome in
Speaker 3: the lead into that and just saying abs like don't
Speaker 3: do too much because I'm a crammer, Like I was
Speaker 3: just cramming everything.
Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, Like just chill out.
Speaker 3: BT, like even yeah, rich oh Hodgy this year, like
Speaker 3: they've they've just been so good in my confidence as well,
Speaker 3: you know, hosting that first seg on a Friday night
Speaker 3: and oh look, I could sit here and name them
Speaker 3: all to be honest, like, I'm so lucky and so
Speaker 3: grateful to be surrounded and supported by so many amazing
Speaker 3: people who legitimately just want to see you succeed and
Speaker 3: do well.
Speaker 1: So very very lucky girl, Incredible people. I've got to
Speaker 1: as this, how's the diet for some of these people?
Speaker 1: Behind the scenes. I've been told there are some macas
Speaker 1: rolling around every game day and.
Speaker 2: Lots of nassy gorings, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Lots of the go toosh at Marvel.
Speaker 2: There's the old nazi boring at the G.
Speaker 3: It's pretty good. We get fed quite well at the G.
Speaker 1: Fish and chip stops in the area.
Speaker 3: No, that's like a nice little maybe like even a
Speaker 3: little lamb curry or something.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yes, exactly, very bougie there.
Speaker 3: But no, look, I think you can sometimes fall into
Speaker 3: the track when you're working late nights, early mornings, you know,
Speaker 3: big hours, you can sometimes into the caffeine and sugar coffee,
Speaker 3: the coffees. Yeah, so we try and steer clear of that,
Speaker 3: but sometimes it's just that's just what you got to do.
Speaker 1: We'll go into women in sport and comment commentating specifically
Speaker 1: now yourself, Daisy Pierce, Aaron Phillips are kind of like
Speaker 1: the three. I feel like they're really transitioned from a
Speaker 1: fl W to being in media, whether it be radio,
Speaker 1: where it be TV, whatever it is. Can you talk
Speaker 1: on I guess like do you have a bit of
Speaker 1: a club kind of thing. I feel like the three
Speaker 1: you are very similar in your drive to want to
Speaker 1: be successful and things like that, Like there's days is
Speaker 1: amazing Aaron probably doesn't do it as much as Daisy
Speaker 1: in yourself, but she's doing her radio gig and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. It's it's amazing to see how AFLW has
Speaker 1: been able to give you opportunities to be able to
Speaker 1: do something bigger. Yeah, in the next step, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense, Like can you speak to that.
Speaker 3: Biggest supporters of females and you know women in this space,
Speaker 3: and particularly working alongside Daisy and Eron, like they are
Speaker 3: two of the best to ever you know, play the
Speaker 3: game from the AFLW perspective, but also their footy brains,
Speaker 3: my male or female two of the.
Speaker 2: Best analysts that there are.
Speaker 3: You know, both of them have taken different pathways this
Speaker 3: year and have landed in clubland, so Daisy obviously with
Speaker 3: Geelong and Aaron.
Speaker 2: At Port Adelaide.
Speaker 3: So they're certainly not doing as much commentary as they did,
Speaker 3: you know previously, but that is because they're still heavily
Speaker 3: entrenched in clubland now. So but you know, I feel
Speaker 3: so lucky and so grateful to have those two as well.
Speaker 3: That Daisy in particular, because we've kind of been on
Speaker 3: this journey together for quite a long time now. She
Speaker 3: would always just send me a text and say, hey,
Speaker 3: did you want to catch up for a coffee and
Speaker 3: chat through you know, this weekend or whatever it might
Speaker 3: be at that point in time. Just to know that
Speaker 3: if I ever needed her or needed her you know,
Speaker 3: expertise or opinions or whatever, that I could just pick
Speaker 3: up the phone, give her a call or send her
Speaker 3: a text and she'd get back to me and vice versa. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's been really nice to be on that journey with them,
Speaker 3: but also to see those two in their own right
Speaker 3: go about their successes and Daisy to win a flag obviously. Yeah,
Speaker 3: season seven of the AFLW, Like there's nobody that deserved
Speaker 3: it more than Daisy Pierce and to go out you know,
Speaker 3: in terms of retirement on that front foward, it's just
Speaker 3: so would ask I think absolutely absolutely so.
Speaker 2: Daisy, you know, and Erin.
Speaker 3: They're two incredible people who ultimately can do no wrong,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like they can do whatever
Speaker 3: they want to do in the future, and that's because
Speaker 3: they work so hard at their craft. And yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: excited to see what their journeys look like in the
Speaker 3: next ten twenty thirty years time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be me really interesting. I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot more opportunities for females and sports.
Speaker 3: Well, I honestly, I honestly believe that Daisy Pierce could
Speaker 3: be the first you know, female coach of the men's competition.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, hands down, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I do find it interesting. The whole debacle of herbing
Speaker 1: and rooms.
Speaker 2: It is the biggest, stupidest shit. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: It was wild. I don't. Yeah, I means every club
Speaker 1: is different in their own ways. To me, it was
Speaker 1: like it's not like she's in the team meeting room
Speaker 1: like where they're giving their address, you know, like she's
Speaker 1: sitting at the door, like just hanging exactly right.
Speaker 3: And postmatch for Daisy peers to be in the rooms
Speaker 3: when all they're doing is going and talking to their
Speaker 3: friends and their family. They're not highlighting anything you know,
Speaker 3: overly strategic or anything. But AnyWho, that's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 3: And as I said, Daisy Piers, she honestly, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: could be the first head coach as a female of
Speaker 3: the IFL men's competition. And if she wants to pursue that,
Speaker 3: I'll back her in every.
Speaker 2: Day of the week.
Speaker 1: Feedback. You've been given much feedback, let's say, not from
Speaker 1: channel serving spell now it's gonna be super positive. But
Speaker 1: how if you handled I guess obviously not everyone loves changing, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, females and sport unfortunately, probably leads to some
Speaker 1: criticism from people over right. How have you kind of
Speaker 1: dealt with that? Because it was probably something you didn't
Speaker 1: have to deal with throughout a lot of your time,
Speaker 1: and then once you get to the TV prime time
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, you get all eyes on you
Speaker 1: and people will say anything and everything, aren't there, right,
Speaker 1: Social media is a hell of thing. It's a wild
Speaker 1: thing out there. It's the wild, wild wist. How have
Speaker 1: you kind of, like I guess from a mental health standpoint,
Speaker 1: dealt with whether it be criticism, upstowns, the all rounds
Speaker 1: have come with, you know, being out in the media more.
Speaker 2: It's been really challenging, you know.
Speaker 3: But over the last few years in particular, I've been
Speaker 3: so proud to see a drastic change in that area,
Speaker 3: and I think we owe a lot of that to
Speaker 3: the afl W competition now heading into season.
Speaker 2: Eh.
Speaker 3: So it's now been around for a little while. The
Speaker 3: old dinosaurs and you know, old fuddy duddies who didn't
Speaker 3: think women belong in football might have had their opinions
Speaker 3: changed over the last seven years, which is awesome, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But early days it was tough
Speaker 3: because there were still those people who had that belief
Speaker 3: that women didn't belong in footy and everything that I
Speaker 3: said wasn't good enough for them. It didn't matter what
Speaker 3: I said, it was never going to be good enough
Speaker 3: for them. But for me personally, my family, my mum,
Speaker 3: my dad, my sister McKeegan as well have been the
Speaker 3: biggest supports for me because it can be a pretty
Speaker 3: nasty place and you can you know, it's easier said
Speaker 3: than done for people to say just don't read it,
Speaker 3: just don't look at it, don't look at the tweets,
Speaker 3: don't look at the comments on Instagram, don't look at
Speaker 3: these things. But at the end of the day, they're
Speaker 3: right there in front of you, they're in the palm
Speaker 3: of your hand on your phone, notification about everything, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But I think just making sure
Speaker 3: that you've got suppose that positive support network around you
Speaker 3: first and foremost, but you're also.
Speaker 2: Very clear about who you are as a person, I
Speaker 2: think that's that's so critical. You know.
Speaker 3: I know that I came into this landscape when there
Speaker 3: wasn't too many women in that space. But that's also
Speaker 3: something that I'm very proud of because hopefully other women
Speaker 3: in five, ten, twenty years time, they never have to
Speaker 3: deal with that, you know what I mean. So you're
Speaker 3: kind of paving the way for other females to enter
Speaker 3: that space and to not have to put up with that.
Speaker 3: So if it's something that I needed to cop for
Speaker 3: a few years, then I'm totally willing to do that
Speaker 3: in order for other generations to never have to deal
Speaker 3: with that in their life.
Speaker 1: I think we're at the title of the pod Aby
Speaker 1: Holmes de Trailblazer, that is we'll go into I want
Speaker 1: to ask this also because I know we both are
Speaker 1: very passionate about an Indigenous community, and one of my
Speaker 1: favorite things is to see you up in the NT
Speaker 1: doing a bit of TV up there and reporting talk
Speaker 1: to us about I guess your connection back to community
Speaker 1: up there. Obviously, you've played football up in the NT
Speaker 1: with the war Tis. I've kicked one hundred goals. As
Speaker 1: you mentioned, that's been covered. Let's just say a few times, right,
Speaker 1: and it's a hell of an accomplishment. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Talk about like that connection, I want to dive deeper
Speaker 1: into you know, I guess more of who you are
Speaker 1: and why you feel so connected to it. I know
Speaker 1: we've talked about it and you've got the sister lives
Speaker 1: in Go Peninsula. I just went to Grood Island, which
Speaker 1: is like the next door which people wouldn't even know
Speaker 1: where that is in Australia, but talk about I guess
Speaker 1: like your connection back to the land, back to the
Speaker 1: people up there, and just kind of you know what
Speaker 1: it means to you.
Speaker 3: I think I honestly everything that I have today to
Speaker 3: my time in the Northern Territory and the opportunities that
Speaker 3: presented from that incredible place. I moved up there as
Speaker 3: a twenty one year old. I had never been to Darwin.
Speaker 3: I did not know a single person up there before
Speaker 3: I decided to make the move. And I was moving
Speaker 3: up there for a boy at the time. So my
Speaker 3: boyfriend was moving up to play for.
Speaker 2: Yes No.
Speaker 3: So he was moving up to play footy in the
Speaker 3: NTFL season and was originally just going to do the
Speaker 3: six months and then head back to Adelaide, but as
Speaker 3: most blokes do, fell in love with the place and
Speaker 3: didn't want to leave.
Speaker 2: So as a twenty one year old girl, I.
Speaker 3: Packed up my entire life, lived out at home, never
Speaker 3: stood on my own two feet, and I went to
Speaker 3: my dad and my mom and I said, Hey, I'm
Speaker 3: moving to Darwin.
Speaker 2: Any father's worst nun.
Speaker 3: But honestly, I look at that moment once again, going
Speaker 3: back to sliding doors moments. If I didn't have the
Speaker 3: guts as a twenty one year old girl never lived
Speaker 3: at a home, right, if I didn't have the guts
Speaker 3: to make that move, I would not be here today
Speaker 3: speaking to you inside this incredible little podcast studio.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But AnyWho, the Northern Territory, I was fortunate enough up
Speaker 3: there to that's where I really delved into the footy
Speaker 3: landscape and started playing competitively. When the AFLW had happened,
Speaker 3: I was working with the AFLNT and was fortunate enough
Speaker 3: to spend a lot of time out in remote indigenous communities.
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite?
Speaker 3: I love this so my favorite I'm well, obviously the
Speaker 3: Tiwi Islands is up there, but my sister lives out
Speaker 3: in East aarnham Land and this is like proper, proper,
Speaker 3: proper Midller nowhere right, But Yea Kala.
Speaker 2: Electricity, Yes there's electricity.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 3: Karla is hands down one of my favorite communities in
Speaker 3: the country. It is so beautiful, that people are amazing,
Speaker 3: just so much culture, you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, unique about it because I feel like people
Speaker 1: in Australia like they haven't really experienced the real community
Speaker 1: that's away from the towns of Dorowan and the towns
Speaker 1: of our springs and stuff like that, Like this is proper.
Speaker 2: Like culture and history, and.
Speaker 3: This is sixty five thousand years worth of culture, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And we're so fortunate to live
Speaker 3: in a country where there are still people who live
Speaker 3: in community who have their traditional ways to go there
Speaker 3: and experience at firsthand. It's one of my favorite things
Speaker 3: to do. And so I actually was lucky enough to
Speaker 3: film a TV show got into the outback with Abbey
Speaker 3: many many years ago, and we went to a lot
Speaker 3: of remote places in the territory and to these days,
Speaker 3: some of the best people you'll ever meet backyard bandits,
Speaker 3: which was, as.
Speaker 1: You said, the best videos on backyard brands out there.
Speaker 3: Thanks some of the but that's you know, I'm heavily
Speaker 3: entrenched in the traveling tourism space as well now and
Speaker 3: Backyard Bandits was a campaign created. It was born out of,
Speaker 3: I guess the frustration that there's so many Australians out
Speaker 3: there who have spent thousands traveling the world. You know,
Speaker 3: they've spent thousands going to the States and all of Europe,
Speaker 3: which is wonderful, don't get me wrong, but they haven't
Speaker 3: actually experienced the real Australia. They haven't been out and
Speaker 3: seen red dirt or an indigenous community or fully immersed
Speaker 3: themselves in the history and culture that is Australia Australia,
Speaker 3: and that's one of my favorite things to do. So
Speaker 3: backyard Bandits was born just trying to promote this to
Speaker 3: other Australians. Was to go just get a map, blind salt,
Speaker 3: blindfold yourself and put your finger on a map and
Speaker 3: go there, you know what I mean. So, yes, very
Speaker 3: very passionate about the Northern Territory and domestic travel and
Speaker 3: tourism as a whole.
Speaker 1: Really, now, these jet skis, you threw two jet skis
Speaker 1: on the back of this ute, so a jet ski
Speaker 1: on the back of you and you took it through
Speaker 1: the desert Australia. This please tell this story how this
Speaker 1: came about, because this was that was some effort.
Speaker 2: We got some funny looks. So back our bed.
Speaker 3: As we started in Adelaide, we went Red Center, so Ularu,
Speaker 3: Kings Canyon, Alice Springs, all the way up to the
Speaker 3: top end, Darwin Kackadoo, Litchfield and in the whole West
Speaker 3: Coast of Australia top to bottom. But we had a
Speaker 3: Toyota towing a jet ski and then a six perth
Speaker 3: motor home on the road with us. And my goodness,
Speaker 3: some of the comments and the looks that we got
Speaker 3: towing a jet ski through the Australian outback was was priceless.
Speaker 1: Was it worth it? Yeah? Once you got to use
Speaker 1: the jet ski. What do you got?
Speaker 2: Oh Coral Bay, Yeah, I'll go yeah, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: that whole Coral Coast of w a is next level.
Speaker 1: So Nikolau reef yes, well yeah, oh real is that
Speaker 1: your favorite place in Australia because I I'll tell you
Speaker 1: a little bit about it, but like I know, I've
Speaker 1: got a few other things I want to come get through.
Speaker 1: But travel is your jam. Yeah, Like one on one.
Speaker 1: I want to throw on this out of the Channel seven.
Speaker 1: Whoever's lesson can figure it out, travel show myself and
Speaker 1: Abbey will just show. We'll show people the true Australia.
Speaker 2: Absolutely will.
Speaker 3: East Anham one of my favorite places in the country.
Speaker 3: But also yeah, that far north northwest of Wa is
Speaker 3: pretty beautiful as well, Lake Aga.
Speaker 2: Have you been there?
Speaker 1: I haven't.
Speaker 3: Holy moly, you see photos of it and it looks fake,
Speaker 3: right and you go there and it still looks fake,
Speaker 3: and you're like, what.
Speaker 2: Do you mean?
Speaker 1: This is real?
Speaker 3: So we are very, very fortunate to live in such
Speaker 3: an incredible country with so many beautiful places, and I
Speaker 3: highly recommend everybody to just hit the road and go
Speaker 3: and see them.
Speaker 1: Number one place right now, if you can book a
Speaker 1: teat anywhere in the world, not just Australia, would it be.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Well I have just booked to go
Speaker 3: over to the state.
Speaker 1: That place is terrible.
Speaker 3: NEXTI no, but look, I'm We're going to go to
Speaker 3: Miami and go on a cruise through the Caribbean.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think Mexico Bahamash So I'm pretty excited
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a tough life, yes, Now this is after
Speaker 1: you work your ass off doing afi W.
Speaker 3: And you think about it, right, You guys start in March.
Speaker 3: I don't have a weekend off until December.
Speaker 1: That's terrible. Yeah, you don't get a bye week. We
Speaker 1: talked about this. We need to we need to leverage
Speaker 1: Channel seven to get you a bye week.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, so yeah.
Speaker 3: Men starts March, crosses over with Women's in August, and
Speaker 3: then Women's Grand Final is that first weekend of December.
Speaker 3: So it's a very very long year. And I think
Speaker 3: I've earned my cruise from Miami.
Speaker 1: You well, and truly it's phenomenal. You fit in. Now.
Speaker 1: I want to go back. We'll rewind all this. We'll
Speaker 1: put in a little audio. I want to go back
Speaker 1: to the football stop because you are not originally football player.
Speaker 2: No, you were a netball Yeah.
Speaker 1: Big fan of netball, and then you had some knee
Speaker 1: injuries and then that led you to obviously moved to
Speaker 1: nor On Territory with the non Kegan. Yes, but we
Speaker 1: got to Keegan eventually, we did, and then you kind
Speaker 1: of get into the war Toll Football Club. Now we
Speaker 1: both have a little bit of connection to a war
Speaker 1: Old Tas Yeah, shout out to the tiles up there,
Speaker 1: and how was that? Like? That was we talk about
Speaker 1: like football, right and the bare bones of what football is,
Speaker 1: and it's like bringing community together. And I think that
Speaker 1: in what I've heard, and correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: was kind of the one thing that you got from
Speaker 1: that club, right. We talk about local football clubs. People
Speaker 1: love their local football clubs and they meet their friends,
Speaker 1: they make their connections through the football clubs, and that's
Speaker 1: the beauty of sport. Like, was that what your experience
Speaker 1: in the War Tolls was?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: And that once again comes back to moving to a
Speaker 3: foreign place as a twenty one year old. Right, the
Speaker 3: first thing I'd did when I got to Darwin was
Speaker 3: find a Netbok club because at that point in time,
Speaker 3: netball was my entire life.
Speaker 2: The girls that I played.
Speaker 3: Netball with up in Darwen also played footy in the
Speaker 3: off season because up there those sports don't clash like
Speaker 3: down South. Netball and footy a winter sports, so you've
Speaker 3: got to pick one.
Speaker 2: Oras up there, you played.
Speaker 3: Netball from March through September and footy September through March.
Speaker 3: So it was those girls that convinced me to go
Speaker 3: out to war Atars and have a kick and you know,
Speaker 3: history obviously the best thing I ever did. But you
Speaker 3: meet incredible people that very quickly become your family when
Speaker 3: you when you're so far away from your family early days.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so kind of landed at the war Retar
Speaker 3: Footy Club. Was very very fortunate to join a super
Speaker 3: super strong team of incredible athletes and we were basically unstoppable.
Speaker 3: So played footy up there for four years, won four flags,
Speaker 3: kicked to the hundred as you said in that second game,
Speaker 3: one hundred and.
Speaker 1: Five one goal a game, much less than seven or eight.
Speaker 1: You're kicking away.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like it does, like we do.
Speaker 3: We just had this incredible family at the Warritar Footy
Speaker 3: Club and still to this day have great connections with
Speaker 3: the people that I played footy with.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was an absolute dream.
Speaker 1: I went up there. He's about two years ago and
Speaker 1: I trained with them, and there's something that happened. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I'm sure you would have experienced this. But
Speaker 1: like as a kid growing up, right, a thunderstorm rolls
Speaker 1: in games, canceled, right, you go home, they don't give
Speaker 1: us ship. There was lightning, thunder everything.
Speaker 2: No one even battered than oh, cyclones.
Speaker 3: Yes, so the amount of times that we played in
Speaker 3: cyclonic conditions, I'm talking horizontal rain Williams exactly. But like
Speaker 3: wind that it's basically knocking you over. Lightning is where
Speaker 3: they start to call them off.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't get that off. Now, training was too important.
Speaker 2: Training.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, training, they'll change that, don't worry about that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, some of the conditions up there are relentless.
Speaker 3: Plus the heat as well, so game days are quite
Speaker 3: often thirty six thirty seven degrees and one hundred percent
Speaker 3: of humidity, So them tough in the territory.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have to plan cyclone?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Nah, but close to it in terms of conditions.
Speaker 3: I remember playing a game of footy up there where
Speaker 3: I kid you not the water was up.
Speaker 2: To my calf what.
Speaker 3: So and try to feel Yeah, so drainage up in
Speaker 3: the territory grounds is actually quite good, but it gives
Speaker 3: you the context of how much rain can fall and
Speaker 3: very very quickly. In the territory. You swim, you're basically
Speaker 3: women swimmen.
Speaker 1: You're training with the little ankle weights that old women in.
Speaker 3: Yes, as I said, it takes a special kind of
Speaker 3: athlete to play footy in the territory, from the heat
Speaker 3: to the rain to everything that comes with it.
Speaker 1: Once I'm done, I won't play for the task.
Speaker 3: Well, Pegs is very much so on that. Yes, geez,
Speaker 3: such a new too lining together Big.
Speaker 1: One two Punch, Big Kegs and Coxy.
Speaker 3: I feel sorry for any rockman that comes up against
Speaker 3: that combination in the nterfl Kigs than me.
Speaker 1: It would be a crime, very emotional thing between us
Speaker 1: that we have a connection, and there'd be a crime
Speaker 1: not to say it. Big Root, we both saw his
Speaker 1: parents is to get people contact. I'll let you actually
Speaker 1: talk about if you want. But Rooch's a friend of
Speaker 1: ours that had recently passed away, and I'll let you
Speaker 1: kind of explain the connection behind it and what exactly happened.
Speaker 3: So we just had the three year anniversary of Roach's passing.
Speaker 3: I actually spoke to Jill, his mum yesterday because yeah,
Speaker 3: we are going to head to the Estates and yeah
Speaker 3: over to New York and the lead into Christmas, which
Speaker 3: would be amazing to see them. But Rooch, he's quite
Speaker 3: hard to describe as a person impossible because he is
Speaker 3: just one of the well, if not probably the greatest
Speaker 3: human being that one could ever meet, just in the
Speaker 3: way that he approached and attacked life. Right, he was gigantic.
Speaker 3: What was he like, six foot seven, six foot eight.
Speaker 1: He'd be sitting at one hundred and twenty plus kids,
Speaker 1: one hundred.
Speaker 3: And twenty plus killows, but an adonis right Like. And
Speaker 3: I remember the first time I ever laid eyes on
Speaker 3: this guy. Right, he was playing at South Adelaide in
Speaker 3: the reserves. I was there watching Keeks, who played league.
Speaker 3: The reserves boys were all, you know, just wrapping up
Speaker 3: showers and coming up to the stands getting ready to
Speaker 3: watch the lead boys play. And they're all rolling in
Speaker 3: with like buckets of chips and pies and passes, yes,
Speaker 3: steak sandwiches, right, And then I see this massive dude
Speaker 3: just roll.
Speaker 2: In right, and he plunked himself right in front of me.
Speaker 3: Like, and he's thick, and he basically took up took
Speaker 3: up two seats, okay, And he pulled out of his
Speaker 3: bag the biggest tappaware container I've ever seen in my life,
Speaker 3: and it was just full of rice and vegetables.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh.
Speaker 3: My god, who is this guy? Like everybody's eating steak
Speaker 3: sandwiches and like sausages, and bread and like all the
Speaker 3: greasy goodness. And this guy who did he never put
Speaker 3: a bad thing in his body, just pulled out that
Speaker 3: massive tupperwear he used to eat, you know, the four
Speaker 3: beans mix from the camp. Used to eat a four
Speaker 3: beans mix before training, after training.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like he was just so healthy, so fit, so active
Speaker 3: and just one of the greatest people in the history
Speaker 3: of people. So unfortunately Rooch was killed, Yes, in a
Speaker 3: very bad accident. He was riding his bike and hit
Speaker 3: by a car up in Darwin. And yeah, I'll be
Speaker 3: forever grateful for the day that I spent him with
Speaker 3: him in Darwin the week before, like exactly a week
Speaker 3: before that, that moment happened because I took him out
Speaker 3: to top Ensafari camp with Bigger This big dude from
Speaker 3: dix Hill in New York was like hanging out with
Speaker 3: saltwater crocodiles and in and out of choppers and air
Speaker 3: boats and he just had one of the best days
Speaker 3: of his life.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's an amazing He's an American that was
Speaker 1: traveling around Australia since she's playing AFL and played from
Speaker 1: places from Southport to Carleton's vfl up to the tiers.
Speaker 1: He'd been all over the country and seeing quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I'd seen him or I'd talked to him. I think
Speaker 1: it was maybe a month before he passed, and he
Speaker 1: had sent me photos of him. I think I captured
Speaker 1: a buffalo out on the NT and they chopped it
Speaker 1: into quarters because it was too big to helicopter out.
Speaker 1: And he's gone. These guys are fucking crazy up here, man.
Speaker 1: I was, Fuck, you're insane, Like your New York friends
Speaker 1: would not believe this.
Speaker 3: Shit, honestly, And I was, just as I said, I
Speaker 3: just had the three year anniversary and I was going
Speaker 3: back and watching videos from that day with Rooch and
Speaker 3: he's in a pool and I said, would you ever
Speaker 3: get this in New York City? And he was like never, never,
Speaker 3: Like he was just living the dream in Australia. And Yes,
Speaker 3: one of the more tragic things that we've ever had
Speaker 3: to go through was losing yeah, losing him and yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know, now to have the relationship with his
Speaker 3: family over in America and still speak to them and
Speaker 3: catch up with them when we can, that's something that
Speaker 3: that has come out of this, which as yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: really grateful for them.
Speaker 1: There's one man that's lived his life to its force
Speaker 1: at m that's for sure.
Speaker 2: And that's what you know.
Speaker 3: I once again say to everybody, you've just got to
Speaker 3: make the most of every single opportunity and live the
Speaker 3: life to the absolute fullest, because yeah, you never know
Speaker 3: what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: You're a walking testament of that. In absolute walking testament.
Speaker 1: I'll see one of your sliding doors moments now, EJ
Speaker 1: whitting game. Right, you go on, you kick one hundred
Speaker 1: five for the season, right, just subtle brush it off
Speaker 1: your shoulder. Yep, I'm here. Shane Crawford gets you, writes
Speaker 1: the article on you, says, come play from my.
Speaker 2: EJ wedding team.
Speaker 1: Right, you go out there, you just smash it. You
Speaker 1: just all these legends of the game ain't got shit
Speaker 1: on you. Right, You're out there and you absolutely kill it.
Speaker 1: And then you go AFLW. I'm essentially now one of
Speaker 1: the faces of afl W. Was there a lot of
Speaker 1: like stress and anxiety around that, like as there was
Speaker 1: the Marquie players. You think of Mohope, you think of yourself,
Speaker 1: You think of these people who are just like the
Speaker 1: image of trying to sell this product to Australians that
Speaker 1: afl W is now here and here to stay. Was
Speaker 1: it a lot of pressure for yourself in those early
Speaker 1: days of AFLW.
Speaker 3: It really was, I think because I was that cheek
Speaker 3: who had you know, kicked one hundred and was playing
Speaker 3: in the Legends games and in the you know, the
Speaker 3: slowdowns in South Australia. There was a lot of pressure
Speaker 3: on me to perform coming into the IFLW. And you know,
Speaker 3: at that point in time as well, like I'd been
Speaker 3: playing high level netball from the age of kind of
Speaker 3: thirteen fourteen through twenty two twenty three when I moved
Speaker 3: to the territory and my body was absolutely cooked, Like
Speaker 3: I've had four ops on my right knee. I'm bone
Speaker 3: on bone completely. I was very aerial, you know lots
Speaker 3: about netball, so wing attack was my jam, the old general,
Speaker 3: the playmaker.
Speaker 2: Joints hurt thinking, yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 3: So kind of in my second year of AFLW, like
Speaker 3: I certainly wasn't able to play and perform the way
Speaker 3: that I wanted to on a you know, a week in,
Speaker 3: week out basis.
Speaker 2: So that was a real big.
Speaker 3: Challenge for me and ultimately why I kind of turned
Speaker 3: my focus to just the work side of it afterwards,
Speaker 3: was just because I wasn't kind of living up to
Speaker 3: the expectation that I had on myself. So whilst I'm
Speaker 3: very thankful that I had, you know, something else to
Speaker 3: turn to, it certainly was hard during during those years
Speaker 3: where everybody expects the world of view, there was quite
Speaker 3: quite a lot of predat pressure.
Speaker 1: It's very hard mentor. I think whenever your mind wants
Speaker 1: to do something, your body wants to do another thing. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's I mean to have to
Speaker 1: go through that many surgeries and stuff. People don't he
Speaker 1: won't see that, you know, they just say, look, we're
Speaker 1: paying you do this and you perform, right, Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think there's so much that goes on behind the
Speaker 1: scenes of mental resilience and everything else to be able
Speaker 1: to get through those come out and then still be
Speaker 1: able to you know, do your job and be able
Speaker 1: to be successful. Were there are dark times after those
Speaker 1: kind of surgeries where maybe you're not informed or whatever
Speaker 1: it may be, and you're feeling the pressure of the
Speaker 1: outside coming in and you just feel like, oh, just
Speaker 1: the world is on your shoulders.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And you know what It's like when you're
Speaker 3: injured or you know, in a rehab group or whatever,
Speaker 3: it might be, like it's a pretty lonely place because you,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because.
Speaker 3: All all the fun shit happens out on the on
Speaker 3: the park, nobody really cares about those that have broken.
Speaker 1: So we sit in the back and the sheds on
Speaker 1: the on the assault bike, just kidding after it. How
Speaker 1: that is yourself? Chill?
Speaker 3: But yeah, like you've got you've got pressure and expectation
Speaker 3: on yourself that you expect, right, but then add on
Speaker 3: tenfold what everybody else expects from you and they just
Speaker 3: need to google your name to to work out what
Speaker 3: you've done in the past.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was high pressure, high stakes, but I grew up
Speaker 3: a die hard Adelaide supporter, shouts me to say that,
Speaker 3: considering you just beat them onto points?
Speaker 1: Did we was it? Yes? Yeah, it was yesh two points?
Speaker 1: What was it the game before? Howd we got them?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You led by twenty seconds. AnyWho, Right, So I
Speaker 2: was a.
Speaker 3: Die but die hard Crow supporter growing up right, footy
Speaker 3: mad family like one eyed Crow supporters. So to have
Speaker 3: the opportunity to be drafted to the club that you've
Speaker 3: loved and supported your entire life, pull on the guernsey
Speaker 3: and represent them. Plus win a flag in year one
Speaker 3: and forever be an inaugural way for w premiership player. Like,
Speaker 3: that's been pretty crazy to even think about, and a whirlwind.
Speaker 3: Like do you ever feel like I still feel like
Speaker 3: I'm twenty one in my head, but for sure my
Speaker 3: body says like thirty two.
Speaker 2: It's like is like seventy.
Speaker 3: So you're like, I still feel like that was yesterday,
Speaker 3: But I'm like, actually, that was a good what six
Speaker 3: years ago?
Speaker 2: Seven years ago now?
Speaker 3: So yeah, time flies, But so grateful for that opportunity,
Speaker 3: that experience and the people that I was able to
Speaker 3: achieve that with.
Speaker 1: I hope to one day experience what you've experienced. But
Speaker 1: I want you to describe, after going through some of
Speaker 1: the hard times and the tough times to be able
Speaker 1: to lift up the premiership carpike, what did that mean
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 3: It's hard to put that into words as well, because
Speaker 3: so going into that first season of aflw Adelaide's license
Speaker 3: bid was a joint collaboration with the Northern Territory, so
Speaker 3: two places which had been such a huge part of
Speaker 3: my journey coming together as one, so I've got to
Speaker 3: represent the both, which was amazing. We had majority of
Speaker 3: the team the list based in Adelaide and we had
Speaker 3: nine girls based in Darwen that year one. So imagine Collingwood, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you've got three quarters of your list down there at
Speaker 3: Bloody the footy club, and then you've got another quarter
Speaker 3: of the crew.
Speaker 1: Way yeah.
Speaker 3: So we got together on two occasions before round one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: two occasions for like a little bit of a camp situation.
Speaker 3: Everybody had us as wooden spooners purely because of that situation,
Speaker 3: because they're like, how the hell is that going to work?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: But to go through that season.
Speaker 3: Make the Grand Final and then win it at metrocn Stadium, like,
Speaker 3: oh my goodness, my sister and my mum had flown
Speaker 3: down from Darwin, my dad and my nana flew in
Speaker 3: from Adelaide. The group of girls, as I said Bet Gottard,
Speaker 3: the coach Andrew Hodges who looked after us up in Darwin,
Speaker 3: like to have the ultimate success under those situations and
Speaker 3: that environment where we weren't always together, like we zoomed
Speaker 3: in and skyped in for meetings and stuff like exactly right,
Speaker 3: but that's what made it all so special was that
Speaker 3: we had not one dickhead on that list. If we
Speaker 3: had one dickhead, that entire situation would have collapsed.
Speaker 2: Right. We just had the best group of.
Speaker 3: People who completely and utterly brought into that situation, and
Speaker 3: ultimately that's what wants the flag.
Speaker 1: Did you ever drink like a beer out of the cup?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't even drink.
Speaker 1: I don't know you someone does a drink. I mean
Speaker 1: on that occasion, I feel like.
Speaker 3: You got to live after you you got to and
Speaker 3: that that was a rather large celebration after that one.
Speaker 2: Give us a story Gold Coast.
Speaker 3: Right, So when I don't even know we're staying at
Speaker 3: the golf course, I think, right, do you know why
Speaker 3: I know that we were on a golf course was
Speaker 3: because I remember doing I remember getting at an uber
Speaker 3: or something to macis, and then I ended up in
Speaker 3: a golf cart. And I was like Santa Claus, right,
Speaker 3: and I had all of these macs and I'm just
Speaker 3: in a golf cart, just like throwing cheeseburgers, throwing the chickens, your.
Speaker 2: Spicy McNuggets or whatever you like. You get some French
Speaker 2: fries and you get some French fries. That's how I.
Speaker 3: Remember where I was at a golf course, because I
Speaker 3: was somehow in a golf But then we had to
Speaker 3: get up like five am, fly back to Adelaide and
Speaker 3: then do a lack of honor for the men's for
Speaker 3: the men's game, so everyone had Yeah there was a few,
Speaker 3: there was, but no, it was the best, Like, and
Speaker 3: that's such an incredible memory with as I said, an
Speaker 3: amazing group of people, so very very fortunate.
Speaker 1: That night that night, not during the game, probably the real.
Speaker 3: Stuff Es Sagendary and Foley, Aaron Phillips once she gets yeah,
Speaker 3: let's just let's just hug her in there as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that it was awesome.
Speaker 1: She would be a.
Speaker 2: Look at how much she's experienced in.
Speaker 1: Life and Dallas to go back here and like living
Speaker 1: out her life dream. It's like she would just be
Speaker 1: in habit, honestly.
Speaker 3: And they've just had another baby as well. Congratulations to
Speaker 3: Tracy and Flip. But what she's achieved on and off
Speaker 3: the field, she is an inspiration.
Speaker 1: She's an absolutely legendary. Yeah, all right, we'll move into
Speaker 1: another thing I want to talk to you about, because
Speaker 1: I'm wearing this jacket and this thing, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: the most comfortable shit I've ever worn in my life.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not look people, we've got some Mason cock
Speaker 1: show merch out and that's great go By, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, but this shit is fucking on fire.
Speaker 3: You know what's so funny is that I text you
Speaker 3: saying like, is it cool to just wear like shit?
Speaker 2: Kit? As in, you know, I did wear and nobody cares.
Speaker 3: But then you were like, I'm wearing my Blindside hoodie
Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm so glad I just messaged
Speaker 3: you because I was wearing that.
Speaker 1: When I wearing this, it would have been matchy match Yeah.
Speaker 2: So and then you messaged me and said I'm wearing that,
Speaker 2: so I changed.
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to describe this for most people now.
Speaker 1: I thought about, on the way over here, how do
Speaker 1: I describe how comfortable this is? Right? I said, it's
Speaker 1: like a snuggie but in a jumper. Is that like
Speaker 1: a decent way to describe this?
Speaker 2: I don't know the inside is so wearing a hug
Speaker 2: or I.
Speaker 1: Don't know where you're getting this stuff made. If there's
Speaker 1: some kids in a sweatshop somewhere sorting this. Now, it's
Speaker 1: all ethically done. I'm sure it's all above board, But seriously, guys,
Speaker 1: this is I'm not I'm I don't really wear stuff
Speaker 1: very often that you know I wear consistently over and over.
Speaker 1: But you see me in the sweatshirt every single day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just glad you like it.
Speaker 1: It is legit.
Speaker 3: You know that feeling of when you've had a really
Speaker 3: tough day, right, might be playing footy out in the cold, whatever,
Speaker 3: and that feeling of getting home, having a hot shower
Speaker 3: and then putting this on and not having to move
Speaker 3: for the rest of the night or the afternoon or
Speaker 3: the day.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of the weirder that doesn't wear a shirt
Speaker 1: under it too, because it's so Yeah, this is getting me.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you like it, first and foremost. But
Speaker 3: Blindside born off the back of getting blindsided twice and survivor.
Speaker 2: Of course, the name I was like five days off
Speaker 2: half a million dollars.
Speaker 3: But that's fine, not salty at all, not salty at all.
Speaker 3: So we launched Blindside in February twenty twenty, which was
Speaker 3: just before every like the world shut down, right just
Speaker 3: before the all see you work. Yeah, COVID just before
Speaker 3: people couldn't leave the house, and then what we saw
Speaker 3: was obviously people at home. They wanted to be comfortable.
Speaker 3: People were doing the business work meetings with like blazers
Speaker 3: up top and then party done the bottom with trackies
Speaker 3: and on boots. So it was kind of fortuitous in
Speaker 3: the sense of when we when we launched, the world
Speaker 3: went into that unfortunate situation. So in terms of the timing,
Speaker 3: it was perfect and it's just fun. Like it's a
Speaker 3: small business. Keigs and I obviously launched it, as I
Speaker 3: said in twenty twenty, We've had some help along the
Speaker 3: way with Ree, one of my really good mates who
Speaker 3: works in it as well. And yeah, I love it
Speaker 3: like I love you know, the design and the creating
Speaker 3: side of it. But also got a great team with
Speaker 3: our manufacturer as well.
Speaker 1: So you're going to be like a CEO on television.
Speaker 1: You can be so successful. You're gonna be looking at
Speaker 1: this podcast and go, why the fuck that this interview?
Speaker 1: I've got it? Okay. Now, I've been wanting to as
Speaker 1: this because on this podcast we joke about it a lot.
Speaker 1: Brand and I are desperately single, and you know this,
Speaker 1: you met your future husband, your fiance at the moment,
Speaker 1: feel say on bumble, I did any advice for us
Speaker 1: out there? Maybe some good prompts or something you should
Speaker 1: throw out there for the females.
Speaker 2: Do you have bumble?
Speaker 1: I don't. I have hinge. I've gone on the hinge
Speaker 1: and another thing.
Speaker 2: But do you know what so funny story about keys
Speaker 2: and I?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: I was always adamant, for some reason that I could
Speaker 3: never have any of the apps, any of them. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: because you don't want to be that footy cheek or
Speaker 3: that tall American dude that plays for Collingwood, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I was always adamant that I just couldn't do
Speaker 2: it from a professional side.
Speaker 3: Yes, And then before my second pre season at the Crows,
Speaker 3: I'd move back to Adelaide from Darwin and I had
Speaker 3: to move had to drive over to my Melbourne place
Speaker 3: to pick up a few things, and I bought one
Speaker 3: of my best friends with me, Kim. So I was
Speaker 3: driving over and then Kim, my friend, was like, ABS,
Speaker 3: like you've always complained about being single, but you don't
Speaker 3: actually put yourself out there to meet anyone, Like I
Speaker 3: don't drink, I don't go out.
Speaker 1: I don't kind of you too busy.
Speaker 2: I like to work. Yeah, that's just what I do.
Speaker 3: And she was like, I'm going to make your Bumble
Speaker 3: account and I was driving, so I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: I can't exactly do anything about it.
Speaker 1: You're like, I don't have any control, and I was like, oh, as.
Speaker 3: Long as I get to like pick a photo. So
Speaker 3: she made the Bumble account and kegs is my first
Speaker 3: ever Bumble date. Like, so I'm biggest advocate, one hundred
Speaker 3: percent strike right, one from one and done.
Speaker 1: Maybe we need to download Bumble. I think Braidin's on Bumble.
Speaker 1: Bradin's on about twenty.
Speaker 2: Different paps and everything.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Bumble, what's the what's the go to prompt answer?
Speaker 1: I think, do you know what? Something like that?
Speaker 2: So you know how with bumble, like the female has
Speaker 2: to make the move.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, of course you didn't that I didn't.
Speaker 2: I so Bumble.
Speaker 3: It was like it's different because it's not like everyone
Speaker 3: can just go like yeah, the female in.
Speaker 2: That that interactation interaction.
Speaker 3: Has to make the first move. So I think mine
Speaker 3: was like a little handwave and that's it. Like I
Speaker 3: didn't really, that's all I.
Speaker 2: Gay that real kicks and it works good.
Speaker 3: And then so yeah, we spoke for a little while.
Speaker 3: Our first date went for like eight hours.
Speaker 1: Wow. Love that.
Speaker 3: So you know, I set up a coffee at three
Speaker 3: thirty because that's a great time because if it's going
Speaker 3: really pear shaped, you can be like, oh, I've got
Speaker 3: dinner plans, I've got to get get out of here
Speaker 3: and get out of here quick smart, or if it's
Speaker 3: going well, you're like run. Yeah that's experience. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: So three thirty coffee date because coffee you can get
Speaker 3: out or you can stay in.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Coffee finished, and then he was like, do you want
Speaker 3: to move you to the movies and I was like yeah,
Speaker 3: it's next door. We went and saw Jimunji Jamuji finished,
Speaker 3: and I was like, do you want to get dinner
Speaker 3: and he was like yeah. So we went back to
Speaker 3: where we had coffee and then had dinner. And then
Speaker 3: when I sat down at the beach at Glen Elg
Speaker 3: in South Australia for a little while, literally eight hours
Speaker 3: and then ever since then have just been inseparable. And
Speaker 3: he literally told me he loved me in like two weeks.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He met my family within a week.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that's huge.
Speaker 3: So you know we knew straightaway, and you know the
Speaker 3: people are there. He's a nice guy, best person ever. Right,
Speaker 3: But you know how people always say when you know,
Speaker 3: you know, are you at least.
Speaker 2: Expencive for exactly Well?
Speaker 3: I used to be like, yeah, whatever, guys, and then
Speaker 3: I met Kegs and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: You're right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so don't hold, don't give in, don't give up.
Speaker 1: Wiler Store download Bumble A hand wave Yeah, just that
Speaker 1: should real enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or if somebody ever because they're going to have
Speaker 3: to like handwave to you, then you have to be
Speaker 3: like that, that's her.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's the one.
Speaker 1: That's the one. Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Keys is the biggest legend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, last thing you've done Survivor sas you're on coming up.
Speaker 1: We can't yeah, we can't talk about too much. I'm
Speaker 1: just going to ask you this. Did you get in
Speaker 1: a fight with someone? Did you ever? You know? I
Speaker 1: think of the old rugby player fighting the for W player,
Speaker 1: and you didn't do that, did you?
Speaker 2: It might be oh gosh, it might be some of
Speaker 2: that sas.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you're here you got through it.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited for you all to see SAS, which
Speaker 3: we don't exactly have an air date, but it is
Speaker 3: later in the year where it at September October. It
Speaker 3: is by far the hardest thing that I've ever done
Speaker 3: in my life. And I've been fortunate to do a
Speaker 3: number of hard things, right Survivor, I didn't shower or
Speaker 3: brush my teeth for forty six days SAS in terms
Speaker 3: of hardness, yeah, the hardest, hardest, the hardest of hard
Speaker 3: How long does it lasts?
Speaker 2: You have to wait?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. Good almost gotcha.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, such an incredible experience where we
Speaker 3: filmed in the Middle East, so very very different to
Speaker 3: what you've seen previously in Australian or says Australia. The
Speaker 3: Middle East was brutal, next level I think desert, Yeah,
Speaker 3: soft sand running My qud's burned just even mentioning the word.
Speaker 3: But yeah, amazing experience, great group of people, and yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't wait for you to see it.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this, if you can make
Speaker 1: one challenge for television, one challenge that would push people
Speaker 1: to the absolute limits, what would it be? Do you
Speaker 1: mean I'm talking clausaphobia. I'm talking to heights. I'm talking
Speaker 1: speed and just putting them all in a big pot
Speaker 1: and mixing them together.
Speaker 3: Heights is my thing, Like no, I hate tips. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: so anything to do with heights is gonna Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: going to really screw me over.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it will screw over a lot of people.
Speaker 1: So if you had to jump out of the helicopter,
Speaker 1: you that would be your worst case scenario. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying you did it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that would be that would be that would
Speaker 2: be very very bad for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And unfortunately, I think there's going to be a
Speaker 3: little bit of heights coming my way.
Speaker 1: I figured there would be.
Speaker 2: I mean, like im my experience of.
Speaker 1: Watching these shows, I feel like heights is kind of
Speaker 1: something they weave into this.
Speaker 2: Every once a well that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Everybody's got a thing, right, and they kind of hit
Speaker 3: you from every direction in the sas Australia environment just
Speaker 3: to kind of break you down.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was very very challenging. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 2: give too much away.
Speaker 1: That's that's a very good question. It I think I'm
Speaker 1: going to start with maybe the Bachelor or Bachelorette would
Speaker 1: you ever go on batch? Not for sure? I would.
Speaker 1: You can be awesome.
Speaker 2: What would you What would you pitch be?
Speaker 1: Give it to me sales pitch. There's not really much
Speaker 1: to sales planceribe self, describe myself.
Speaker 2: Pretend like we're on speed date.
Speaker 1: Oh, a speed date. Some foot tall American mechanical engineer
Speaker 1: that plays sport for a living, enjoys the outdoors and
Speaker 1: traveling and just really wants to make a good connection
Speaker 1: with someone.
Speaker 2: What do you look for in a female?
Speaker 1: Oh? Intelligence?
Speaker 2: Intelligence? Okay, other questions is that it?
Speaker 1: Oh? Intelligence, beautiful? Get that's attraction? You know, have the
Speaker 1: attraction usually your friends tying.
Speaker 2: I'm trying a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. We'll move on to the last thing before
Speaker 1: we get in trouble because this has gone from a
Speaker 1: footy to a business to a dating segment. About that, No,
Speaker 1: it's okay, we could go on, and I believe me.
Speaker 1: You've talked about this barrossa idea and getting a wedding
Speaker 1: venue down there.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, McLaren bel claren Bell.
Speaker 1: Sorry, apologies, long winery region, big one guy. Where's that
Speaker 1: at the moment, it's.
Speaker 2: Still bubbling away in the background.
Speaker 3: Look I'm the kind of person who is like, I
Speaker 3: set myself a goal and I will put everything in
Speaker 3: place to achieve that goal.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is asistent. Yeah, I'm very persistent.
Speaker 3: And look, that's something that is ultimately a you know,
Speaker 3: a big goal of ours. And at the moment, we yeah,
Speaker 3: probably kind of focus a little bit more on Victoria
Speaker 3: at this point in time, but we will long term
Speaker 3: be back home in South Australia once we kind of
Speaker 3: hopefully are able to have some children and start a
Speaker 3: family on that front. But yeah, our lives are very
Speaker 3: entrenched in Melbourne at the moment.
Speaker 1: So I want to ask this, I want to say,
Speaker 1: what's next? But if you could do anything right, You've
Speaker 1: got all these different pieces that you're putting together at
Speaker 1: the moment, from commentating to traveling Australia and everything else.
Speaker 1: What would you your dream job? If you only could
Speaker 1: pick one right, what would be your dream job? Oh?
Speaker 2: My goodness, that's a very hard question.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's pretty well.
Speaker 3: Look but I honestly, as I said to you, I
Speaker 3: feel like I have my dream job. Yeah, and there's
Speaker 3: obviously so much you know, scope to improve and expand
Speaker 3: and that kind of thing. Yes, but I'm a sports nuffy.
Speaker 3: I love travel, you know, I love people, like being
Speaker 3: a real estate agent crossing over into the media landscape,
Speaker 3: like it is your job to build relationships and build
Speaker 3: rapport and I feel like I've done that quite well
Speaker 3: in the footy sense, like you know as a player,
Speaker 3: like you must know that I'm a I'm a pretty trustworthy.
Speaker 1: I'm laugh with you on the sideline as I'm just
Speaker 1: acting like I'm doing something jogging up and down the sideline.
Speaker 2: I'm a good chat right.
Speaker 1: It's like a terrible interview you just stay away from.
Speaker 2: There's a few but everyone no, no, no, everyone's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Pretty good.
Speaker 3: But I feel like I've done you know that really
Speaker 3: well over the last few years, is build that trust
Speaker 3: to the relationships and the rapport with players and coaches
Speaker 3: so that they do trust me that I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to put them in a tree your situation. I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to get them to say something silly or get
Speaker 3: a headline because That's not what I'm about.
Speaker 2: Right, But AnyWho, I digress. My dream job, I'm.
Speaker 1: Doing it, you're doing it, okay, But yeah, like travel sport,
Speaker 1: what would your dream travel? Travel?
Speaker 2: TV? Love like travel Tourism TV, The Dream, the.
Speaker 1: Mason Cox and so we're gonna go to the Abbey Homes.
Speaker 1: I'm second to your fiddle Habby Homes, Mason Cox Travel Show.
Speaker 1: We're throwing it out there whoever wants to take it.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say Channel seven is the only
Speaker 1: one out there. I'm happy to do whoever wants.
Speaker 2: But you know that would be a vibe. We love
Speaker 2: our fishing, do you know what? So I remember funny stories.
Speaker 1: We're just raffling now.
Speaker 2: Sorry about this.
Speaker 3: When I was filming a show up in the East
Speaker 3: downham Land, I caught a mackie and we were filming
Speaker 3: it and it like kicked and.
Speaker 2: Nearly dropped. It took out a chunk of my guy's toe.
Speaker 2: So you guys toe, Yeah, the guy I was interviewing. Truth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like so see, funny things happen when I'm
Speaker 3: in front of a screen.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that's insane, chopped off the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: Wow? Okay, cat a meter Bury.
Speaker 2: It still haven't correct a meter?
Speaker 1: We do that? Yeah, one day we got to do
Speaker 1: it up there.
Speaker 2: I'm actually quite dirty on it, to be.
Speaker 3: Honest, that I haven't the ninety eighty seven, eighty seven
Speaker 3: ninety two.
Speaker 2: No you did not, just really yeah.
Speaker 1: Just went up there. I'll tell you a whole story
Speaker 1: about how I caught that thing. All right, we're wiffling
Speaker 1: on with the shazack, the shaz ap. I was like
Speaker 1: looking back to my notes of the shaza to make
Speaker 1: sure I'm saying it right. But we're going to finish there,
Speaker 1: because we could keep going on and on. But I
Speaker 1: know you've got training. I go to the VFL W
Speaker 1: Hawthorne training right now and shout out to them, by
Speaker 1: the way, and well done. So you kicked the goal.
Speaker 2: Last week, my first game in a very long time.
Speaker 1: I can only go one hundred and four more, hundred
Speaker 1: and four more. But seriously, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on. You're an absolute legend. I will get the
Speaker 1: Caro cake too, I promised, But I appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 1: It is incredible what you're doing and what you're going
Speaker 1: to accomplish. Because if there's anyone out there that sets
Speaker 1: a path to do something and gets.
Speaker 2: It done, it's you for having me
Speaker 1: No no worries and dam yeah, we'll see you soon.