1 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: I'm always always said be careful. 2 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: Love those umboo. 3 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: Let it well, use your head. 4 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: They will tear you lack a purple talk. 5 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 4: Oh no no, no, yeah. 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah, oh no no no. 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 4: Hi. 8 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 3: I'm Amanda and I'm Romby. 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 5: Welcome to It's Laying. 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 4: We're in a long distance friendship that started over twenty 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 4: years ago when we were in high school. 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 5: We'll be talking about all things life, love, family, anything 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 5: and everything else under the sun. 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 4: Delve deeper with us because in life, you know, Jine Layers. 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 6: No no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah no no. 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of its Laired 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: Special Edition. And today we're so so excited. 18 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: We have a special guest in the building. We have 19 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: Kai here with us. 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: Welcome Kai, thanks for having me. 21 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, we're so excited. But before we get into 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 4: all things dell all the way deeper with you, we 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 4: just wanted to let the people know a little bit 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 4: about Kai. Who is Kai and what's she all about. 25 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: In the short time since Kai formally introduced herself to 26 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: the world, she's already one over audiences with her celebratory, 27 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: absolutely celebratory, sun soaked sound that effortlessly bridges pop and 28 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: R and B, keeping joy and freedom at the forefront 29 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: with shining rhythmic deliveries championing her undeniable songwriter and vocal talent. 30 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: Zimbabweent born what Up London Raised now noms Slash, Melbourne 31 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: based Kai's relationship with music blossomed as a young child 32 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: growing up in the UK. 33 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 5: In between vivid memories spent singing through sickness and health, 34 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 5: gospel songs which all Zimbabwians can relate to, talent shows, 35 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 5: girl bands and more, have voice flourished with each deep 36 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 5: embrace of her identity. Deeply informed by her experience as 37 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 5: a young black woman experiencing life through a predominantly white 38 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 5: societal lens, which this podcast completely gets. Kai finds herself today, confident, 39 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 5: strong and humble, ready to share her mantra of embracing 40 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 5: openness and finding joy in it with the world. Welcome 41 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 5: to his lad podcast, Kai, I'm so excitedly here and 42 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 5: to talk to you guys. A bio that sounds so cool, cool. 43 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 4: Cool, honestly, like we'll get into all that, but yeah, 44 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: I would be so grateful that you could be here 45 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 4: and after such an amazing bio. How would you describe 46 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 4: yourself Kai, Like, like, in a few words and a 47 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 4: sentence and a paragraph, how would you know someone said, 48 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: who's kind? 49 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would probably say Kai is like a multi genre. 50 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: Artist based in Nam Zimbabwe born. Yeah. I don't know. 51 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: It's so hard to you know when someone says, you know, 52 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: tell me about yourself and you go. 53 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: Exactly window. 54 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, definitely a multi genre artist. Yeah, sort 55 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 6: of making pop, R and B dance music with just 56 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 6: a focus on fun and joy and enjoyment. 57 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 58 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 59 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: I love that. 60 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 5: We've spoken a lot about being a third culture kid, 61 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 5: you know, balancing all the cultures we come from. How 62 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 5: do you think being born in Zimbabwe, raised in the UK, 63 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 5: and now based in malvin has shaped your musical journey. 64 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 6: I think all of the different cultures and you know, 65 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 6: different versions of my upbringing is kind of the reason 66 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 6: why I'm such a multi genre artist. I think, you know, 67 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 6: when you've lived in all these different places and you've 68 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 6: had to adapt a whole bunch of times, and you know, 69 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 6: meet new people and be in different environments, you know, 70 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 6: it makes you such I guess, like a hybrid person, 71 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 6: and I think that makes my music sound like that 72 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 6: because that's what my personality is like I'm just you know, 73 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 6: a combination of all the places I've been and all 74 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 6: the things that I've learned and the people I've met. 75 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 6: So yeah, I think it heavily informs my music because 76 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 6: I don't really make one sound that can be put into. 77 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: You know, one box. Yes, and that's just how I 78 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: am as a personality. 79 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, absolutely, and I love that multifacetedness. I think 80 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 4: so often we are denied of that. You're allowed to 81 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 4: be all these things, right, It's like, oh, if you're 82 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: gonna identify as this, you're only this, or if you're 83 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: can to identify as that, you're only that. And you know, 84 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: it's beautiful when we can embrace all of that. 85 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 6: So yeah, when it took me, even like a while 86 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 6: in my musical journey to you know, even identify as 87 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 6: Zimbabwean born, I think that was such a big turning 88 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 6: point for me because I was like, actually, that does 89 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 6: inform my music. And maybe it means that I don't 90 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 6: make afrobeats and I don't make zimbabwe music, but I 91 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 6: can still identify with saying, oh, this is my culture, 92 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 6: this is where I was born, and these are the 93 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 6: ways that it influences my music. Without having to make 94 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 6: a specific type of music. I think, especially in Western media, 95 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 6: there is such a you know, a preconception about the 96 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 6: music that Africans make and the art that Africans make, 97 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 6: so immediately when you say, oh, I'm from Zimbabwe, they're like, okay, 98 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 6: give us the Zimbabwe music. Yeah. I think there was 99 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 6: even a push and pull there of being like, actually, no, 100 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 6: let me introduce my culture into this. Yeah. 101 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of culture, how did your close family and 102 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: friends support you in becoming a musician. 103 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: What was that journey like for you when you decided. 104 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of fear at the beginning. 105 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 6: I think you know, you probably would understand, you know, 106 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 6: coming from Zim and like my parents having moved us 107 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 6: from Zim and we've moved to different places around the world. 108 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 6: For them, you know, everything was very much about how 109 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 6: do we, you know, keep our family sustained, how do 110 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 6: we go and find a job that's going to keep 111 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 6: us pushing through? And for them it was all about 112 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 6: like how do we survive and take care of these kids? 113 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 6: And then I think for us kids, we've gone okay, well, 114 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 6: now I've got this whole world full of opportunities, and 115 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 6: I want to do something a bit weird and your parents. 116 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: Wait, what, you're a doctor or a lawyer about it? 117 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: So yeah, I think, you know, they get you through school, 118 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 6: they get you educated, and I went off to UNI 119 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 6: and I was pre met for a couple of years, 120 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 6: and then I decided I didn't want to do it. 121 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 5: So now. 122 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: Exactly that was. 123 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 6: An uphill battle for a while, and you know, mom 124 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 6: and dad didn't really get it, you know, until the 125 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 6: music started coming out and you know, things started happening. 126 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: But they've always been supportive. 127 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 6: They've always you know, they've always known that I loved 128 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 6: music and I love singing, and they always wanted me 129 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 6: to do it. But it was just that thing of like, 130 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 6: we don't know anything about the music industry or how 131 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 6: people release songs or how people get a record deal, 132 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 6: and you know, how are you going to make money? 133 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 6: How are you going to survive? So I think, yeah, 134 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 6: it was it was a big conversation. But they are 135 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 6: the most supportive parents in the world now, Like they 136 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 6: just they back everything I do. They support me, They 137 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 6: come to every show like they're the best. 138 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: We love it. 139 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, we heard you on your bossing song when you 140 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 5: speak a few bars or like yeah, you know, they 141 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 5: sound lovely to be seen, And I think you're so right. 142 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 5: It's our parents always operate from a place of fear 143 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 5: because for them, they were probably the first generation to 144 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 5: really experience quote unquote material success. So to them, they're like, 145 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 5: it can be taken away. You have to have security, security, security, 146 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 5: And then with the generation after that, like we're secure 147 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 5: now now. 148 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: What you know? Now we dream? 149 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, now we dream right now, we can do those 150 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 5: other things that you wanted us to do. Deep down, 151 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 5: this is what you were doing it for. But I 152 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 5: think this is so hard for them to fathom. How 153 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 5: do you yourself keep yourself motivated as a young black 154 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 5: woman experiencing life through a predominantly white lens. 155 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: As you said in your bio. 156 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 6: I think like, as much as it is difficult, it's 157 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 6: also really exciting. I think, you know, there's a there's 158 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 6: that feeling of pushing the envelope and pushing that glass 159 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 6: ceiling further and further up, and knowing that the more 160 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 6: that I push in, the harder I work, the easier 161 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 6: it's going to be for you know, the next young 162 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 6: black girls who are making music, you know in white Australia, 163 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 6: I think by the time I've gone and done it, 164 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 6: you know, the next batch that's coming up, it's just 165 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 6: going to be you know, a much easier, a much 166 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 6: easier journey for them. So there's always that in the 167 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 6: back of my mind. But I think it's also just 168 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 6: exciting feeling like, oh, you know, we're actually going to 169 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 6: push some barriers here, and we're going to see what 170 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 6: it looks like to see change actively happen. Then it's 171 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 6: frustrating some days, and it's hard some days, but other 172 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 6: days you get those big wins and you actually really 173 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 6: get to go, yes, I did that, and I get 174 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 6: to claim that, and I get to say, you know, 175 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 6: I get to put my heritage and my culture at 176 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 6: the forefront, and. 177 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: You know, let the white people watch me do it. 178 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: And enjoy you while you do that as well. Enjoy 179 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: it while you do that. 180 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 4: Because I think that there's something really special. As much 181 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: as there's pushback sometimes on culture or difference, I think 182 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 4: there's something that draws people to you know, be like wow, 183 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: like that's something that's different to me, and so on 184 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: and so forth. So I think it's really inspiring what 185 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 4: you're doing. And we wanted to know who inspires you 186 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 4: music like your your your journey, your sound and all that, 187 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: if he could. 188 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: Share with us. 189 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's always so hard to pinpoint musical influences because 190 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 6: I think it just expands and changes every day. But 191 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 6: my parents brought me up on a lot of like 192 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 6: Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston and Shaka Khan and you know, 193 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 6: all of those great great artists from that time. So 194 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 6: R and B and soul music and like great pop 195 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 6: music has always been something I had around me, So 196 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 6: I think, yeah, my early songwriting was definitely like, oh, 197 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 6: you know, I know this Michael Jackson song because I 198 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 6: know it's got this hook. So I've got to write 199 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 6: songs that have got hooks. So I think, yeah, the 200 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 6: early influences is that. And then yeah, just as I've 201 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 6: gotten older, just discovering more and more artists that I love. 202 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 6: I'm a big Beyonce fan. It's embarrassing, you tell us twice. 203 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I have. 204 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 6: An embarrassing love for Beyonce and just her work and 205 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 6: her career been really inspiring to watch. And then you know, 206 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 6: just some of the newer R and B stuff that's 207 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 6: coming out Scissor and you know, all this kind of 208 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 6: artists Kailani who sort of make that alternative R and 209 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 6: B and I think it was really cool listening to 210 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 6: that music when people weren't really across it yet. And 211 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 6: now if you say Scissor, everyone knows who Scissor is. 212 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 6: But if you said Sissa five six years ago, people 213 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 6: will be like, I don't know, I've not heard of 214 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 6: that artist before. 215 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think not so much. 216 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 6: Sonically, I think, you know, I don't really make super 217 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 6: R and B music anymore, but I think yeah, definitely 218 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 6: career wise, and watching you know, other black young artists 219 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 6: sort of come up from the underground and really place 220 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 6: themselves in the mainstream. 221 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, has definitely been a big influence. I mean speaking 222 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: on that. 223 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 5: You know, we always talk about things we want to 224 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 5: see or places you want to be And for you musically, 225 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 5: who do you think you would love to collaborate with? 226 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean number one Beyonce. 227 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 6: I say it for every every interview if I asked 228 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 6: the question, I always say it because I know that 229 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 6: if I say it enough times, it'll happen. 230 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 5: So yeah, watching this beyond is internet that absolutely, there's 231 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 5: there's so many Honestly, if there wasn't Beyonce. 232 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: Gosh, I mean Ed Sheeran. 233 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 6: Honestly, I think Ed Sheeran is one of the greatest 234 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 6: pop songwriters, like in the world right now, Ed Sheeran, 235 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 6: Max Martin. Yeah, a lot of amazing pop songwriters out there, 236 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 6: So yeah, but number one Beyonce. 237 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: Queen? 238 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: You heard that, Queen? 239 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: Which would you say? I think people often say it's 240 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: hard to choose. It's like choosing which is your favorite child. 241 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 4: But what do you enjoy more? The songwriting aspect or 242 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 4: being a vocalist because your vocals are quite like, you know, 243 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: like really impressive, just the way able to scale and 244 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: you know, listening to some of your covers like it's 245 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: just really really inspiring. So which which side of it 246 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 4: do you enjoy more? The songwriting or the vocals performing? 247 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: I don't know anyone. 248 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: It is hard. It is like being your favorite child. 249 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 6: I think lately it's been like vocals the actual I 250 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 6: think like artistry behind vocals has been a big thing 251 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 6: for me. I think in my previous records, I think 252 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 6: a lot of people who know me or have heard 253 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 6: me sing have been like, oh, you don't really sing 254 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 6: on your records, which is really interesting because they're right 255 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 6: I don't really have to work hard vocally on some 256 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 6: of the records I've put out. A lot of the 257 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 6: new music is like vocal, like vocally heavy, like really 258 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 6: I've had to get really into the nitty gritty of 259 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 6: like my singing and really use my vocals for the 260 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: stuff that's coming out later. So I've been really in 261 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 6: that space at the moment, just really working on vocal 262 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 6: arranging and I mean getting better. 263 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: As a vocalist to I teach vocals. 264 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 6: I have about fifty students, yeah, so that's been like 265 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 6: a big part of the process. I've been teaching for 266 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 6: about a year and a half. Yeah, so it's been 267 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 6: really really interesting to get into the mechanics of my voice. 268 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: So that's been really fun. 269 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 6: But it's amazing gear up, Yeah, as we gear up 270 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 6: to go back on tour. I'm so excited to get 271 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 6: back on stage because I think that is my my 272 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 6: happy place being. 273 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: On That's amazing. That's amazing. 274 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 4: And would there be anyone that you would love to 275 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: songwrite with for collaborate with on a songwriting scale, because 276 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 4: we talk about the honest song overall, but like anyone 277 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: you'd love to write with. I know you mentioned ed Sharan, 278 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 4: Is there anyone else there? 279 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, honestly, I would love I would love for Edge 280 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 6: Shearing to write me a song. But yeah, at the moment, 281 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 6: I think my my focus has been collaborating with people 282 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 6: who are really different to me and make really different 283 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 6: music to me. Like I just did a couple of 284 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 6: sessions with an Australian artist named Jeef Flip and their 285 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 6: music couldn't be any more different to what I make, 286 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 6: And the music that we made was really really cool 287 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 6: and really opened up a new space for me. So 288 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 6: I think, yeah, without sort of pinpointing any names, I 289 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 6: think there's so many artists that I would love to 290 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 6: work with who are just in a completely different genre 291 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 6: to me. 292 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: So I think that's yeah, that's. 293 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 5: The beautiful you know, it's so interesting to talk about 294 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 5: how your voice. I think we forget their voices are instruments. 295 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 5: I remember when we were like in music school in 296 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 5: high school and they'll be like, oh, you can do music, 297 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 5: and then people will be expecting you to play an instrument, 298 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 5: and some people would just sing a compeller and it's like, well, yeah, 299 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 5: that is an instrument. So it's beautiful that you're even 300 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 5: teaching music and using our voices. It's such a I 301 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 5: don't know, it's such a I guess, underrated part of music. 302 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 5: It's funny we know you're a singer, but then we 303 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 5: always the production and we forget that you're vocalist first. Right. 304 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's really true. It's really true. 305 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 6: I think even as I've gotten back to being more 306 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 6: of an instrumentalist because I do play, I think even 307 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 6: getting back to that and being like, oh, I have 308 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 6: to give as much practice and time to singing as 309 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 6: I have to give to guitar or piano or so yeah, 310 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 6: how technical it all is. So yeah, the voice is 311 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 6: such an interesting instrument because it's so personal. You know, 312 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 6: if you play the wrong note on the piano or 313 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 6: you hit the wrong drum, it's like oops. But if 314 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 6: you see a wrong note, it's so deeply, like personally reflective. 315 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: I think that. 316 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 6: Very exposing. So yeah, no, it's been it's been fun 317 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 6: to dig into. 318 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 5: It's so funny you say that because we grew up 319 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 5: in the era of like Christina Anguilera, and I remember 320 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 5: on one of her studio sessions she had like the 321 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 5: lights dimmed and everything was just because she's like, I 322 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 5: just want people to focus on my voice and not 323 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 5: like what I look like. And it's just so interesting 324 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 5: because just one for you. Well, I mean we've just 325 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 5: been the same studio, so we feel like we've really. 326 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: Hang out with you. We recorded our. 327 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 5: Special at the Base Studios as well in South Melbourne. 328 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: What do you think you enjoy most about being in 329 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: the studio? 330 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 6: Oh gosh, so you would have seen the bass, which 331 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 6: is great for context because it's such like a It 332 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 6: depends on how you light it, I think, but it's 333 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 6: such like a movie and it's just like the atmosphere 334 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 6: of it is just very intimate, I think. So I 335 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 6: really like to get into intimate space when I'm recording 336 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 6: because it really does affect it. It affects the way 337 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 6: that you're seeing and perform. I can't do it with 338 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 6: bright lights on. My voice sounds completely different under bright 339 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 6: lights than it does, you know, in a dark space, 340 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 6: which is so funny. 341 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: It's so weird. 342 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 6: But yeah, however it affects your brain is just how 343 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 6: the sound comes out, which is yeah, really funny. 344 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: But I love recording at the Base. 345 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 6: It's been my home now for a while and my 346 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 6: first sort of music that came out as Kai was 347 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 6: all recorded at the base that I haven't recorded anywhere 348 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 6: else since. So, yeah, it's just my little musical home. 349 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had We had a great time recording there 350 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 4: and just as you said, the energy is just really 351 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 4: really great. You shared a little so you like the 352 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: more sort of dimmed side of things when it comes 353 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: to recording. Can you share a bit about your creative process, 354 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 4: because you know what I always wonder about the songwriters 355 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 4: or the singers, you know, especially if you have a 356 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: hands on approach to make creating your music and seeing 357 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: it through from the start to the finish. 358 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: What does that look like? 359 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: Because I think sometimes as regular humans we can't fathom, like, so, 360 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 4: where does the song come from? 361 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 362 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: Like, yeahs, what does that create a process look like 363 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 4: for you? 364 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 3: Or does it differ change? Like do you have like a. 365 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 6: Systems chop and change around? But I think that question 366 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 6: you asked before, where does the song come from? Is 367 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 6: is a really interesting question and something that I've been 368 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 6: I think grappling with probably for the last few years, 369 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 6: because I think my best songs that I've ever written 370 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 6: feel like they fall out of the sky, Like it 371 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 6: doesn't feel like I write them. It feels like they 372 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 6: just happened to me and then I happen to just 373 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 6: be there at the right time and place. So yeah, 374 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 6: I think my favorite songs I've written them driving and 375 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 6: they just happen all like linearly or in the shower, 376 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 6: and the whole song happens. And the last song that 377 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 6: I wrote that I really loved, I felt like was 378 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 6: the best song I've ever written. I had heard two 379 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 6: chords on her guitar and it just happened. People in 380 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 6: the room are like, what just happened there? Like you 381 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 6: just heard the sound and then you know, the. 382 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: Christians and Zimbabwe be like, it's like exactly, yeah, and. 383 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 6: You know they said, oh, it's like you just reached 384 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 6: up in the air and just grabbed it. And so 385 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 6: I think that's something I've been just trying to I 386 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 6: think I'll never understand that's actual. 387 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 4: There's something, there's something really when they I've been reading 388 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 4: different things and. 389 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: Oh, specifically Power of Now. 390 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 4: I've been reading Guys and things like that and talks 391 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 4: about flow and when you're in flow and it's almost 392 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 4: like an element. That's why consciousness is so important, because 393 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: you're not in your head, you're just in flow. With 394 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: whatever you believe, whatever the universe whoever is talking to you, 395 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 4: and then that's where it just comes to you. And 396 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 4: it really shows that you really are in contact with 397 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 4: your flow and and and kind of moving in that. 398 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 4: So that's really beautiful. So guys, there's no like secrets. 399 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 4: I'm sure there are recipes. 400 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 7: Just like I just like, but it just it just 401 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 7: comes as well. 402 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 6: I think like flow is really important. But I think 403 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 6: even like flow within yourself, I can't write as I 404 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 6: don't feel good like if I don't take care of myself, 405 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 6: if I'm not like on my absolute one hundred percent 406 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 6: in terms of like am I being healthy? Am I exercising? 407 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 6: Am I reading? Am I surrounding myself with people who 408 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 6: make me happy? Am I having a good time? In general? 409 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: In life? 410 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 6: I can't be creative because I think, you know, being 411 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 6: creative out of negativity is just not it's not me, 412 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 6: Like I just feel like, I, yeah, I just can't 413 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 6: go into that space. I can't get into that place 414 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 6: where I guess I can receive. But yeah, I think 415 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 6: being on that wave for a while now of just 416 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 6: being like how do I actually make myself feel better? 417 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 6: Has been Yeah, has been just an unlocking point for 418 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 6: songwriting and being creative and yeah, just opening up my 419 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 6: artistry in general. 420 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we love that for you, We love that beautiful. 421 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think self care is such a thing that 422 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 5: people it's almost got to the point where it's become luxury, right, 423 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 5: People always think self care, Oh, you have to go 424 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 5: to SPA, you have to those things. 425 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: Definitely got a space you all love a bad day. 426 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 5: But like, I think what you're saying, like, even on 427 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 5: the day to day, checking in with yourself is so important. 428 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 5: And I think that's the lovely thing about your music. 429 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 5: It's just so fun, Like it's too joyful. Yeah, you 430 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 5: cannot listen to it and not be in a good 431 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 5: mood at the end of it. And I think it's 432 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 5: such a special talent that you have that you bring 433 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 5: that out, you know, even if you don't know the lyrics, you're. 434 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: Like, like, you know, it's just like step So I'm 435 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: not love it. 436 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 5: When I saw your shows, you know, I was like, 437 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 5: oh my gosh. People are really responding to that energy. 438 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 5: And I think, especially in this world there's so much 439 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 5: going on, it's nice to have to spark on those 440 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 5: moments of just pure joy and fun but how does 441 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 5: it feel for you performing your songs live? 442 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: Oh? So fun, so much fun. 443 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 6: I think even before writing the Ribena EP, a big 444 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 6: thing was how do I make it so that when 445 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 6: I'm performing, the whole thing is fun, you know? And 446 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 6: I think there is a place for sad songs. There's 447 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 6: definitely a place for more serious topic songs, and a 448 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 6: lot of other artists do that and they you know, 449 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 6: they fill that space, and I'll eventually do that as 450 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 6: I'm moving to my album. But I think if there 451 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 6: is an underlying feeling of actually, even if it is 452 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 6: a sad song, I still want you to be able 453 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 6: to find your joy in there, because you know, sadness 454 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 6: doesn't negate joy. So I think just finding that feeling of. 455 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: Right there that's not can make us take a lot. 456 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: R carry on. 457 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think, you know, wanting to engage with 458 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 6: that part of your audience and being like I want 459 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 6: you to feel joy is Yeah, it just makes performing 460 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 6: incredible because it's no longer about you. It's not you know, Oh, 461 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 6: I'm on this stage and I want you to look 462 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 6: at me and look at all the things I do 463 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 6: and listen to my voice. It's like, oh, let's let's 464 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 6: have an experience to get that. 465 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, beautiful and speaking of sadness, does not have, does 466 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 4: not negate joy. 467 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 3: Now this is gonna be a Quotable's gonna be out here, 468 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: okay in the streets. 469 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: But you know, your your song Tuesday, I think speaks 470 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 4: that because. 471 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: It's not really a happy song. Am that right? 472 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 4: And then the way I understood it because sometimes you 473 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: must understand the song. But I guess not really a 474 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 4: happy song, but you made it joyful. I watched the 475 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 4: music when I was like, oh my gosh, it's and 476 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 4: then I was like, but the if you listen. 477 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: Clearly it's not. 478 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 4: So I think that epitomizes so perfectly what you just said. 479 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 4: It's like you can you can cry in you know, 480 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 4: in a on a bed of flowers and you know, 481 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 482 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: So I think that. 483 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 4: Juxtaposition was so beautifully done. 484 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: So I yes, so creative. 485 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 4: Any advice that you have for upcoming artists or those 486 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 4: who want to work in the music industry, because as 487 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: you said, I think historically, especially in Zimbabwe. Fun fact, 488 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 4: I wrote a song at sixteen, I even recorded it. 489 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: I wanted to be an artist. 490 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 4: Then my parents were like not going to happen and 491 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: I listened and you know, Cela VI. But any advice 492 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 4: for as you said, you're trying to carve a way 493 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: for the younger generation, so. 494 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: It's a little easier. 495 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 4: It feels a bit more normalized for them to see 496 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 4: themselves doing the things that were not. 497 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: Easy to do. 498 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 4: You know why we had to push against the grain 499 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 4: as you did. Any advice or thoughts for them, just. 500 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 6: That authenticity is everything. I think if you do everything 501 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 6: from an authentic place, then you know, whether it's in 502 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 6: the business side of music or whether it's in the 503 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 6: creative process, you'll always have the outcome that you're proud of. 504 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 6: I think it's really easy to lose yourself in, you know, 505 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 6: an industry that's like this, so that's all about entertainment 506 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 6: and it's all about being in front of people. It's 507 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 6: really really easy to just become a version of yourself 508 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 6: and not just truly yourself. So I think really sticking 509 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 6: to being your authentic self is what's going to make 510 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 6: you happy at the end of the day and what's 511 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 6: actually going to bring you success because nobody can be 512 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 6: as you as you, and that's what's going to be 513 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 6: different on the market too, So I think just yeah, 514 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 6: being absolutely you to a fault is the way to go. 515 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 6: And I think just injecting your personality into everything that 516 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 6: you do as well, making music that actually connects to 517 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 6: you and not just you know, singing songs on a 518 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 6: piece of paper, actually having a personal and real connection 519 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 6: to your art. Yeah, I think just being real, if 520 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 6: I had to sum that up, is just being real. 521 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 522 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 4: Absolutely, no one can be you, nobody can be more 523 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 4: than you. Bars another one. 524 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 5: Another, one another, one another, one another one. You know. 525 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: What I love about gen Z? I feel like you guys. 526 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 5: Just do it like yeah, And there's a lot of 527 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 5: conversation around gen Z and obviously we're not gen Z else, 528 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 5: But what do you think with the dialogue around millennials 529 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 5: and gen Z? Do you think millillions can take anything 530 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 5: from gen Z? And is there anything you would take 531 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 5: from millennials or. 532 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 6: Is it just like I think it's so it's so 533 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 6: funny because like I know, I'm technically what they call 534 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 6: a cuspa because I'm not quite gen Z, but I'm 535 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 6: not quite a millennial either, And I grew up with 536 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 6: all the stuff that like, you know, millennials grew up 537 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 6: with but I'm too young to be like a millennial millennials. 538 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 6: I'm a cusper, so I've got a bit of book. 539 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 6: So I think there's things to learn from both. I 540 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 6: think gen Z has really gotten I think like emotional 541 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 6: openness and vulnerability. Having that included in like the mainstream 542 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 6: conversation is something that I've noticed from gen Z that 543 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 6: is massive, Like people are really talking about their feelings, 544 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 6: which when I was in high school, that was not 545 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 6: a thing. We didn't do that. So I think that's 546 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 6: been really cool and really important. And I think gen 547 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 6: Z does have that whole thing where you can be, 548 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 6: you know, an individual and you can be really authentic. 549 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 6: But I think that millennials also have this like realism 550 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 6: that's like, yeah, we can be all of these, but 551 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 6: we need a functional way to do it because we've 552 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 6: seen what happens when the big dreaming boomers dream away 553 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 6: and dream the future away, so. 554 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 3: We suffer thanks to them. 555 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you got that realness. I think if 556 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 6: you brought that all in together, then yeah, you get 557 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 6: a really wonderful mix for a society. 558 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: But we'll see how we go. Gen Z is getting. 559 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 5: I think for me, it's just a it's a social 560 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 5: media stuff for me, Yeah, I cannot and I commend 561 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 5: you like your reels are so fun Yeah, like you 562 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 5: get to know. 563 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: I feel like I know you, like I feel like, 564 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: oh yeah doing a thing you know. 565 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 5: Yeah right. 566 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: I think for our generation, when I cannot be doing that, you. 567 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 4: Know, no one should see me like it's so funny, 568 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 4: like the difference. 569 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's great. 570 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: I love the call out to all everyone saying when 571 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 4: are you getting back to your what real song writing? 572 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 4: Or seriously, yeah, that was too funny. 573 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god. 574 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: And even when you're looking for the clip from Wendy 575 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: Wendy and you're like, there's a thing called legal, I 576 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, it was too funny the whole song, 577 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: and then forget about the legal part of it, Like 578 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: it's just and everyone just giving you recommendations. 579 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: That's the beautiful aspect. 580 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 5: I guess that we it's a community and you're definitely 581 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 5: in touch with your community, which is a beautiful thing 582 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 5: to see. I think sometimes, especially being from Zimbabwe, we 583 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 5: use social media to perform, to show off too, and 584 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 5: we forget that there's people receiving and those people need 585 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 5: that interaction and yeah, of course it gets overwhelming, but 586 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 5: there's definitely space where it's like you're not just coming 587 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 5: on here to show off, you here to really connect. 588 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: There's intent behind it. 589 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 590 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think working with like artists that are bigger 591 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 6: than me, like when I first started in music and 592 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 6: was doing like a lot of backing vocal stuff, seeing 593 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 6: their fan bases, because some of them are crazy, Like 594 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 6: working with Rule, like his fan base is one of 595 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 6: the most insane fan bases I've ever encountered. Like they 596 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 6: are just so loyal and like attached, but like attached 597 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 6: to each other as well, Like they've really become this 598 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 6: really like glued community. So you'd end up on your 599 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 6: Instagram and you go into your request folder and you 600 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 6: see that it's like groups of girls who have met 601 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 6: each other at concerts or met each other online and 602 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 6: then added you into the group to be like we 603 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 6: need to get information from her about this, we need 604 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 6: to get her to talk to us. But there were 605 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 6: girls who were from totally different parts of the world 606 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 6: and they were best friends in this chat and they 607 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 6: would come in and they would tell each other about 608 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 6: their day and like their struggles and like I've stayed 609 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 6: in the requests, like they've stayed in the request folder. 610 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 6: But I've read those groups for years, like they are 611 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 6: still friends, like they've been since they were like twelve, 612 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 6: and now they're nineteen and they're still on there talking 613 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 6: to each other and it's like, wow, you know, there's 614 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 6: one thing community together. So I think community is like invaluable. 615 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 6: It's amazing. 616 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 4: That's beautiful. Your sound on you know, your hit songs 617 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 4: like Barson and Rubena, Rabina Rabina. Guys, I'm not Australian, 618 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: I don't know what Boson and Rabina definitely gave me 619 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 4: emptv select vibes like re rewind by Artful Dodger and 620 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: also a bit of like Craig David filled me in you. 621 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 5: Know that very she's a casta in the music. 622 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're talking about being a Casper, I was like, ah, 623 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: that makes sense. 624 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: What drew you to that? 625 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 4: Because it felt so nostalgic for me listening to it 626 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 4: as I'm a full on Millennire. 627 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: I can't even deny it. 628 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that really gave me like that vibe, but like 629 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: obviously you really you breathed a new life into it. 630 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 4: It was so it's so great to see just how 631 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: you did that, Yeah, so tell me about that. I can, 632 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: you know, go on, but tell me about your thoughts. 633 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 6: So that's like, that's that's what's really nostalgic for me, 634 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 6: that sound, because that would have been around like two thousand, 635 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 6: two thousand and one, and that's when I moved to 636 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 6: the UK as a kid, so like those were the 637 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 6: first sort of songs that I was listening to in 638 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 6: the car with my parents, like driving around. 639 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 5: So what was that on top of the pop of 640 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 5: the yeah one like. 641 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 6: Radio, yeah, like all of those radio stations. And it 642 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 6: actually like I had a full circle moment last year 643 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 6: because I got to go and talk about bossing on 644 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 6: Kiss and I was like, oh, I would have heard 645 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 6: you know, Daniel Beddingfield and Craig Davis kiss when I 646 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 6: was a kid, So then to have my own, you know, 647 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 6: two step song that's being played on Kiss, I was 648 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 6: like just mind blowing. But yeah, that's a really nostalgic 649 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 6: like era for me, and a really nostalgic sound and 650 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 6: a lot of that like Ripop is a big influence 651 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 6: on me as well, like Sugar Babes and. 652 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: I'm going to be doing the rest of the day. 653 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I had a recent like rewind 654 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 7: of like even Spice Girls and like, I don't know 655 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 7: all these girls. 656 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: Were in their. 657 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 6: Song you know, the Superstar by Jamilla. Yeah, yeah, that 658 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 6: sound is really like my childhood. Yeah. 659 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 5: I think that's what I love about TikTok as well, 660 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 5: because all those sounds come back like, yeah, someone to 661 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 5: do it, real about it, remember that song and then 662 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 5: the researcher and I think even some songs are coming 663 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 5: back on the chats that are like yeah, yeah it's crazy, 664 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 5: Yeah it's crazy. 665 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: So thank you for that. 666 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 4: It was It was really really lovely to hear that 667 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 4: in juxtaposition with like our saying Tuesday and sometimes, which 668 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: I love how you did that, especially the end of 669 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 4: that video, just like the kind of sadness means like 670 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 4: hysteria like you, because you're like combined hysterically laughing with 671 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 4: like this pain you're going through. 672 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 3: I just love. 673 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 4: How your your interpretation of all these emotions and songs 674 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: is so uniquely yours. And then the fashions, I mean 675 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 4: a man can talk a bit more about the fashions 676 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 4: in your music videos and you know, so just really 677 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 4: love as you're saying, how you're multi hyphened and you're multifaceted, 678 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 4: and how it all comes together, it's it's done really well. 679 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 6: So thank you, thank you, thanks for noticing the fashion 680 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 6: I'm a fashion girl, the right place. 681 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: You came to the right. 682 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 5: Any upcoming projects we should start looking out for. I 683 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 5: know you've been teasing us on the socials. Yeah, I have. 684 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 6: I do have a song coming out. It's coming out 685 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 6: on feb twenty first, so yeah, I haven't actually announced 686 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 6: the date yet, but we're getting really close. We're less 687 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 6: than three weeks out. So we've got a song coming out. 688 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 6: It's called now Come on Now. I've been teasing it 689 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 6: on my socials and the sound is actually available to 690 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 6: use on socials now. And then we have another song 691 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 6: that I won't announce the name of yet coming out 692 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 6: straight after that, and it's almost I guess it's kind 693 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 6: of my little send off to the Rabina era, just 694 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 6: putting the lid back on and putting it back in 695 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 6: the fridge for a little bit. Yeah, I started writing 696 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 6: an album which has been big and scary and wonderful 697 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 6: and exciting, but again just like another iteration of myself 698 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 6: and just another evolution. 699 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, just. 700 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 6: Kind of putting this party era to rest for a 701 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 6: sus second and just like getting those last couple of 702 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 6: tracks out so they'll be out. 703 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this month, which is crazy. They can't wait. 704 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 5: You can't wait to hear them, and obviously hear the 705 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 5: song on full. We've been loving the snippet the sound, 706 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 5: so yeah, we can't wait to hear it. 707 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 4: And happy birthday for Tuesday to you. Honestly, keep shining, 708 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 4: you know, you epitomize joy. I think that's a really 709 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 4: if I were to bottle you up, it would be 710 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 4: like you are like spring in a bottle or joy 711 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 4: in a bottle and just ye, So keep that everything going. 712 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: We love to see it. 713 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, we definitely do love to see it, and also 714 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 5: loving to see that even though you like this person 715 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 5: who has all these cultures within you, it's just a 716 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 5: positive space. 717 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: It's not like a negative thing. You know. Sometimes we're like, oh, 718 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I belong anywhere. 719 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 5: But it's like you found your space and you found 720 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 5: your sound and you found your music. And I think 721 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 5: music is something that your knights people whole no matter 722 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 5: where they're from, and you're definitely proof of that. 723 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: So keep going. We'll watch it, Yeah for sure. 724 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, and thank you to our listeners 725 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 4: for joining us for yet another episode of its LB podcast. 726 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 4: We appreciate you. If you haven't already, please check out 727 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 4: Kai Kai. What are your social media handles? Where can 728 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 4: people find you? 729 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 6: You can find me on all platforms and it's at 730 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 6: get it Kai. 731 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 4: G E t I t K y e exactly and 732 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 4: she's so much fun to like. Yes, yourself the favor, 733 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 4: Do yourself the favor. Thank you so much for being here, Amanda. 734 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 4: As always, thank you for doing this with me, and 735 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 4: we'll see you on the next episode. 736 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 3: Goodbye. 737 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: Ye use your hand will tell you lack a purpo.