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Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, the two Australian mummy bloggers

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Speaker 1: using their kids hospital visits for content.

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Speaker 2: Ruby Tuesday, Matthews takes aim.

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Speaker 1: At fake US influences, the media reporting of Olivia Rodgers

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Speaker 1: breakup and the Melbourne Cup snub. Hello and welcome to Outspoken.

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Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture

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Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbah and with the

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Speaker 1: festive season almost upon us, anticipation is setting in as

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Speaker 1: we get set to discover our Spotify rap.

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Speaker 2: For the year.

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Speaker 1: However, many of us were left slightly alarmed when we

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Speaker 1: heard a new app called insta Rap would reveal who

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Speaker 1: we've been stalking the most.

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard this and I'm slightly alarmed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, apparently the app can expose juicy stats such

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Speaker 1: as how many Instagram accounts took screenshots of your post,

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Speaker 1: how many accounts blocked you, and which account viewed your

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Speaker 1: profile the most. Surely this isn't actually a thing, because

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Speaker 1: obviously Instagram's not serving it up.

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Speaker 2: It's an app. It kind of sounds a bit like

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Speaker 2: a scam.

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Speaker 1: I hope it's a scam because this would invade a

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Speaker 1: lot of people's privacy. I was just mentally thinking, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, who have I stalked the most this year?

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Speaker 1: Because this is going to be so embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: Thank god for finsters. Oh that's what's going to ask

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Speaker 2: you guys.

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Speaker 1: Can you immediately think of the person that is probably

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Speaker 1: in your Instagram app?

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Speaker 2: Yes, that I would be appearing in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm more thinking of all the influencers stuff that

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Speaker 1: I screenshot for research.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Suspicion did start growing when people began posting their Instagram

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Speaker 1: wraps online and the results didn't really make sense, but

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Speaker 1: they weren't adding up. People were saying, well, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know who this person is who's apparently viewing my

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Speaker 2: So people are actually.

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Speaker 1: Sharing it like this psycho has been looking at my style,

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Speaker 1: sharing it on their stories and also on TikTok. Now,

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Speaker 1: the app does ask users to submit their password and

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Speaker 1: use the name, so this is.

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Speaker 2: Where alarm they'll started ringing.

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Speaker 1: So one TikTok user said it should be called insta hack,

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Speaker 1: not insta rap because they believe it's a scam to

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Speaker 1: hack into a ton of Instagram accounts. And it's quite

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Speaker 1: alarming because this app has risen to the top of

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Speaker 1: the app store because so many people are curious as

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Speaker 1: to who's looking. What's alarming is we've established this as

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Speaker 1: clearly fake, but imagine that people's accounts that your name

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Speaker 2: Popping up in and people thinking that it's legit.

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Speaker 1: I assume if you're signing up to this app, they're

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Speaker 1: probably just ripping your data and your photo and putting

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Speaker 2: So some random Well that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: When I first heard about this app and heard that

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Speaker 1: it was called insta rap, I thought, oh, Instagram or

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Speaker 1: Meta must have a part to play in this, because

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Speaker 1: in recent years platforms like be Real and Apple Music,

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Speaker 1: been doing you know, gimmick similar where they'll give your

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Speaker 1: digital habits away to you. But when I heard that

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Speaker 1: this was a third party, I was thinking, well, how

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Speaker 1: are they going to get any of these stats from Meta?

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Speaker 1: And Instagram don't want to give out that information because

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Speaker 1: no one would use Instagram. Yeah, because when you said it,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be a rap of

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Speaker 2: With And I'm like, who the fuck would want to

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Speaker 1: A spokesperson for Meta told NBC News that the app

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Speaker 1: violates their policies and they've asked Apple to remove it

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Speaker 1: from the Apple Store and as of Tuesday, it's website,

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Speaker 1: server and IP address could no longer be found. So

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Speaker 1: it looks like we're going to be saved from this embarrassment.

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Speaker 1: And anyone who did download the app and put their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys see that Instagram is apparently going to

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Speaker 1: take away the scene option, so when you got into

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Speaker 2: Going to take it away.

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Speaker 1: Oh thank god, because I used to be under the

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Speaker 2: It took me a year to realize that that's not

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Speaker 1: People are pissed off because they're saying from a dating perspective,

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Speaker 1: it is actually good to see if the guy or

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Speaker 1: girl your dating has seen the message, but it's also hurtful. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it should be something like you have on your

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Speaker 2: Who is opting in for that. I remember back in

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Speaker 1: I'm like, who actually wants people to see immediately?

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Speaker 3: See?

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Speaker 2: Sove has it on her phone. Yeah, I don't know how.

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Speaker 1: I've set that up, God, because I always click people's

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Speaker 2: I actually like it. Oh sorry I didn't see that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it because I can actually hold Zovie accountable.

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Speaker 2: I've got to somehow work out how to get that off.

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Speaker 2: I stumbled across.

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Speaker 1: This TikToker who gives all of these tips about how

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Speaker 2: And you can unclick it.

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Speaker 1: I've got a very angular face. I have a particular

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Speaker 1: Well on that isn't snapchat just the most unflattering cameras.

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Speaker 1: Every time I accidentally flick it on, I look so horrounded.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're drinking and stop drinking. I should drink water.

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Speaker 2: It's a mixer, PERTSU.

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Speaker 3: We have it with whiskey.

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Speaker 1: On Wednesday, the Daily Mail broke the news that Olivia

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Speaker 1: Rodgers and Morgan Waterhouse have ended their relationship. Now, whilst

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Speaker 1: it's been such an action packed week for Olivia, yeah,

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Speaker 1: part of the Victorian Racing Carnival. Now, despite the way

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Speaker 1: They always seem to be the more bougie like ex

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Speaker 1: to Olivia, she has been attending a lot of public

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Speaker 1: They seem very excited to get a so called exclusive

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Speaker 1: So a journalist by the name of Ali Deha round

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Speaker 1: after seven months of dating, as they're spotted attending different

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Speaker 1: was not long after Olivia posted her Olivia Edit of

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Speaker 1: Olivia told one of their photographers that she and Morgan

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Speaker 1: is where I call bullshit, because anyone who was interested

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Speaker 1: in Olivia Rodgers knows that their relationship ended once they

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Speaker 1: got back from BALI. I know there was a photo

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Speaker 1: saying that Morgan was enjoying the luxury offerings at another marquee,

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Speaker 1: How awkward though that, Since when is Olivia mentioning in

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Speaker 1: her just saying to apparently a photographer that she and

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Speaker 1: he have split up. Look, as a journalist, it is

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Speaker 1: so unethical to use a quote, firstly from someone when

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Speaker 1: they're not giving you an interview, because even if this

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Speaker 1: conversation did take place, this comment may have been said

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Speaker 1: off the record. Or perhaps when Olivia may have been drinking.

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Speaker 1: And for those who don't know, making a comment off

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Speaker 1: But she's hardly gonna be like, hey, boys, just off

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Speaker 1: the record, I'm no longer with him. Like they were

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Speaker 1: probably just hassling her the whole time, and she probably said, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're not together. See the thing is I question whether

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Speaker 1: this comment was said at all. You guys one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent believed that she may have said this.

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Speaker 2: She did.

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Speaker 1: She said it in passing, But why would she Probably

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Speaker 1: because they kept asking her, where's Morgan?

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Speaker 2: Where's Morgan? She said we're no longer together.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's made it pretty obvious on Instagram without

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Speaker 1: Car brands and influencers are continuing to distance themselves from

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Speaker 1: Just to wrap this up, going back to Gemma, I

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Speaker 2: It's probably organized for her. Oh what want somebody please think?

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Speaker 1: I have never been in a situation where a medical

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Speaker 1: emergencies happened and I thought I'm going to whack out

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Speaker 1: my phone and take a couple of snaps. That's just

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Speaker 1: never occurred to me as something to do. I can

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Speaker 1: imagine taking photos to update family members every year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, on, excuse me, just a resac? Can I get

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Speaker 2: a TikTok?

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Speaker 1: What about the privacy of these medical professionals who were

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Speaker 1: being shared all over her instagrams? Well, Margo did go

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Speaker 1: on to reveal that her daughter had suffered a farabel seizure,

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Speaker 1: and she shared extent details about what led up to

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Speaker 1: the hospital trip as well as the hospital visit. I'll

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Speaker 1: just put a trigger warning these details are quite confronting.

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Speaker 1: So Margo spoke about how her daughter became unresponsive, floppy,

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Speaker 1: and began convulsing. She then detailed how she didn't think

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Speaker 1: to call an ambulance, but jumped in the cart with

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Speaker 1: her other kids and sped to the hospital and while

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Speaker 1: all of this was happening, her daughter began frothing and

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Speaker 1: her lips turned blue. The good news is Margo's daughter

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Speaker 1: is okay and back at home and they are now

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Speaker 1: awaiting results to find out if she has RSV. The

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Speaker 1: backlash from Margo's post was instant. Many people were questioning

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Speaker 1: whether she had permission from hospital staff to post their faces,

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Speaker 1: and that's a very fair question. Can you imagine doing

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Speaker 1: your job at a hospital will be extremely stressful and

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Speaker 1: then popping up in the background of some influencer's photo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it just adds another layer of stress to the situation. Now,

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Speaker 1: one person wrote online and yet you had time to

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Speaker 1: take photos and post on social media. Horrible experience, But

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Speaker 1: that just seems eq to me. And that comment received

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Speaker 1: eighty seven likes, and again I completely agree with this.

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Speaker 1: I don't have children of my own, so I'm going

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Speaker 1: to annoy people and compare my dogs to them. Whenever

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Speaker 1: I have to take my dog to the event for

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Speaker 1: an emergency situation like Sonny eating my sports bra, I

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Speaker 1: am so panicked and nervous that I don't even want

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Speaker 1: to jinx the situation by taking any sort of photo

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Speaker 1: and posting it. I just feel like it is so

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Speaker 1: attention so performative, Like why would you want to remember

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Speaker 1: that moment? Anyway? Do you think though, that some people

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Speaker 1: might share stuff as a way of kind of dealing

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Speaker 1: with this situation, because I would never ever think to

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Speaker 1: share this. But I do have people on Facebook that

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Speaker 1: I would never think would overshare like this that actually do,

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Speaker 1: and they're really good people. Yeah, but because they feel

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Speaker 1: like they don't have any control, so they have control

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Speaker 1: over photographing of that mate, it's kind of like more

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Speaker 1: that they overshare about their children, and it's in a

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Speaker 1: way because maybe they don't have other people to talk

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Speaker 1: to you directly. I think you're thinking about boomers that

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Speaker 1: don't know social media etiquette. This woman is an influencer,

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Speaker 1: and to me it comes across that she is using

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Speaker 1: her kids for content, but also exactly so, she is

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Speaker 1: sharing this to a huge community of people who don't

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Speaker 1: actually know her or her children.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes different on Facebook when you've got actually a core

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Speaker 1: group of people that know you. And she also added

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Speaker 1: a million hashtags to this post, so it was quite

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Speaker 1: clear that she was trying to drive engagement and get

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Speaker 1: as many people seeing it as possible. Hashtag insensitive hashtag,

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Speaker 1: should put my hashtag vulgar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Someone actually wrote to her kids are not content taking

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Speaker 1: a picture of your child during a terrifying and vulnerable moment,

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Speaker 1: posting to social media and then using a million hashtags?

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Speaker 1: Do your children not deserve any privacy? Unfollowing immediately we want.

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Speaker 2: Privacy now now.

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Speaker 1: Margo actually replied to this comment, writing totally fine with it, babe.

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Speaker 1: Your life will be much better without my disgusting.

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Speaker 2: Content in it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she really wasn't having any of it. She also

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Speaker 1: jumped on her stories to share her frustration. She shared

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Speaker 1: screenshots of people accusing her of having a photo shoot

517
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Speaker 1: in hospital and wrote, some people on this platform, honestly

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Speaker 1: I hate them. Obviously English isn't my first language, but

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Speaker 1: I mean photoshoot. I don't think we have the same

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Speaker 1: definition of a photo shoot. And it's only black and

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Speaker 1: white to actually make the photo look less graphic. There

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Speaker 1: is no fucking filter. I think idea, If the photo's graphic,

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Speaker 1: why don't you just not post it? Well, I think

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Speaker 1: people were accusing her of doing a photoshoot because she

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Speaker 1: actually is a photographer, and she kind of continued to

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Speaker 1: dig a hole for herself. So she proceeded to share

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Speaker 1: a screenshot of all of the photos that she had

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Speaker 1: taken in her gallery, and there were just so many

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Speaker 1: of them, and she wrote, this is my camera role.

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Speaker 1: I see only candid photo switched to black and white.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I never posted photos taken with my phone,

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Speaker 1: so it's the first time. So yeah, photoshoot my ass.

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Speaker 1: She ended up then putting the rude finger emoji. She

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Speaker 1: then signed off from Facebook and.

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Speaker 2: Explained that Instagram.

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Speaker 1: She then signed off from Instagram and explain that she

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Speaker 1: had blurred the medical professionals faces but accidentally uploaded the

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Speaker 1: wrong ones. Is is she trying to defend herself by saying, guys,

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Speaker 1: I didn't bring out my professional camera, Like, can you imagine.

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Speaker 2: That I had to just use my iPhone?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't she claiming that she was doing it for awareness,

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Speaker 1: to make other young parents aware of this condition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the following day, she jumped on her stories and

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Speaker 1: decided to then share a video about for rebel sieges

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Speaker 1: and said the purpose of her post was to raise awareness.

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Speaker 1: She then followed up her selfie where she was looking

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Speaker 1: pretty pissed off and wrote, I think this photo says, oh,

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Speaker 1: don't fuck with me today.

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Speaker 2: I'm not in the middle. I have to put it

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Speaker 2: out there. I do feel awful for her.

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Speaker 1: In a family that this scary incident has happened. I

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Speaker 1: just question how appropriate it is to share this over

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Speaker 1: social media. It kind of reminds me of Sarah's Day.

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Speaker 1: I understand that Margot didn't post this in real time,

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Speaker 1: but Sarah's Day has previously posted issues about her son's

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Speaker 1: health in real time when he's in the hospital, and

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Speaker 1: I just think if if you really want to raise awareness,

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Speaker 1: take a step back and bring this up in a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks time when your child is hopefully feeling

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Speaker 1: better and you've gone through and grieved that situation.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe just keep it private because your kid.

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Speaker 1: Is not consenting to being photographed in their most vulnerable

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Speaker 1: position in hospital, strapped up to fucking machines. Like I

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Speaker 1: just I just think it's so wrong.

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Speaker 2: It's such a confronting site.

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Speaker 1: There must be something in the water, because a second

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Speaker 1: mummy blogger did a very similar thing.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: Her name is George Wolf and she is a thirty

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Speaker 1: two year old mum of four who lives in Queensland Now.

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Speaker 1: According to her Instagram bio, she loves self development, wellness

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Speaker 1: and also sells dance workout guides online.

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Speaker 2: Why that paints a picture.

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Speaker 1: I feel like those are the bios who are always

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Speaker 1: trolling people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but be kind Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: George has over one hundred thousand followers on Instagram and

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Speaker 1: her feet is full of photos and videos of her kids,

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Speaker 1: not to mention lots of paid partnerships with her kids

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Speaker 1: in the videos. Now. On Wednesday, she shared a health

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Speaker 1: update about her eight year old daughter on her Instagram story,

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Speaker 1: so she posted a photo of her daughter lying in

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Speaker 1: a hospital bed getting an ultrasound, with a caption outlining

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Speaker 1: details of multiple surgeries to remove kidney stones. She also added,

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Speaker 1: my days have been dedicated to managing her pain and

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Speaker 1: holding a safe space for her to express her thoughts

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Speaker 1: and feelings that has come with this experience. I'm so

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Speaker 1: proud of her and the resilience she has shown. Tap

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Speaker 1: here to send her positive surgery vibes for tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Wait, how old does this girl eight?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So, not only is she using this as an excuse

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Speaker 1: to say I have been by my daughter's side, give

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Speaker 1: me kudos, I've been looking after her, She's also then

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Speaker 1: trying to get further engagement on her stories by getting

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Speaker 1: people to tap the story for positive vibes. Well, what

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Speaker 1: makes it worse is after the post about her daughter

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Speaker 1: being in hospital, she then shared a paid partnership post,

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Speaker 1: and her most recent grid post is a real promoting

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Speaker 1: kids panadol with her four kid. I can already see though,

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00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: there'll be some listeners who have children and they'll say,

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Speaker 1: I feel like these topics are Mum, shamey.

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Speaker 2: What do you guys think it?

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Speaker 1: Can we criticize because, well, I did see someone in

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Speaker 1: our group share that they have actually been helping their

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Speaker 1: fourteen year old son share his health journey online, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's very different because at fourteen, you can

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Speaker 1: actually consent to having your private information shared online. But

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Speaker 1: when the kids are under sixteen, I think it is

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Speaker 1: so wrong. I think we're also allowed to have our

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Speaker 1: personal feelings about something that we see as being quite vulgar.

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Speaker 1: To me, sharing photos of your children in very vulnerable

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00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: situations is gross and it's not something that I would

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Speaker 1: choose to ever do. I also don't understand why anyone

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Speaker 1: wants to watch this.

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Speaker 2: This content makes me feel sick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do understand from the parent's perspective that it is

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Speaker 1: something that they have endured and gone through as well.

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Speaker 1: But I think there's a way of talking about it

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Speaker 1: where you can actually respect your child's privacy.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, some of.

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Speaker 3: Them and they have lunch following and just those fake

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Speaker 3: ass people.

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Speaker 1: I know Ruby Tuesday Matthews has taken aim at fake

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Speaker 1: ass influences and I'm here for it. Earlier this week,

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Speaker 1: she attended a lunch to celebrate the launch of content

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Speaker 1: creator Hailey Anderson's collaboration with Status Anxiety.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Following the event, Ruby took to her Instagram story to

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Speaker 1: put some of the influencers in attendance on blast. So essentially,

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Speaker 1: she's helped us work out who are the assholes and

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Speaker 1: who are the nice girls of Instagram in her opinion.

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Speaker 2: Now, I found this.

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Speaker 1: Very interesting because she said, it's actually the bikini girls

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00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: and those that you think are a little bit too much,

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00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: who are probably the nicest people out there. Alternatively, she

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Speaker 1: said the assholes are the ones who post esthetically pleasing photos,

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Speaker 1: who buy croissants and place them on tables with bunches

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00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: of daisies. She also added that the gym rats a

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Speaker 1: faces and.

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Speaker 4: Also oh got the use of the word fuck faces,

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Speaker 4: So I got it. I can think of a few

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Speaker 4: people when she mentioned the whole Croisson photo shoot kind

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Speaker 4: of vibe. Yeah, it really paints a picture of the

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Speaker 4: type of influences.

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Speaker 2: So who do you think it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of guessing that the nice ones of people

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00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: like sky Wheatley that you go, oh, they're too much

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Speaker 1: in person.

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Speaker 2: I've heard she's really lovely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did think that maybe she was referencing sky

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Speaker 1: Wheatly I was desperate to find out who was at

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Speaker 1: this event. Unfortunately, it's a little bit weird. The brand

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Speaker 1: hasn't posted any photos of it. Maybe they posted on

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Speaker 1: their stories back when it happened.

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Speaker 2: All of the influencers are saying, please don't post he

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Speaker 2: was there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And also Hayley Anderson, who was collaborating with the event,

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Speaker 1: hasn't posted any photos, which is a little bit weird.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there was some big brawl or something for Ruby Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Matthews to be so candid, and she seemed really revved

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Speaker 1: up about something. I did come across a photo of

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Speaker 1: Ruby at the event with a group of women including

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Speaker 1: Amy Gerard and Carlie McDonough as well as Fran High,

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Speaker 1: So I'm assuming maybe they're off the hook if Ruby

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Speaker 1: was happy to pose for a photo with them. I

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Speaker 1: do also love this line from Ruby. She went on

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Speaker 1: to say that women need to support each other and

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Speaker 1: be kind and lead with love, and she finished by saying,

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Speaker 1: if you're a fake ass bitch, just don't come near me.

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Speaker 1: I don't have time for you, and don't pretend like

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Speaker 1: you care about my life. God.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like she was really burned at this event.

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Speaker 1: She also gave a bit of an insight into what

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Speaker 1: it's like to be at an influencer event. So she

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Speaker 1: said that there are two types of influencers. There's the

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Speaker 1: ones that walk around filming themselves and taking photos of oysters,

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Speaker 1: which she did add she does like an oyster shop,

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Speaker 1: and then she said this about the other type.

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Speaker 2: But then there's the other type that is like.

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Speaker 3: Just fucking living and up having a good time, supporting

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Speaker 3: the brand, you know, going where the party is.

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Speaker 2: And then there's.

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Speaker 3: Assholes who are just like in their little click, in

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Speaker 3: their little bit, go home and have bitch chat after,

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Speaker 3: and I know you, I know you.

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Speaker 1: I really respect the group who are actually there filming

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Speaker 1: content about the event, because there's nothing worse than inviting

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of influencers and they're too cool for

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Speaker 1: school and don't even tag your brand or anything about

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Speaker 1: the event when they're there. After being at a few events,

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Speaker 1: in terms of events we've been filming at for our business,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I could have gone on a ranch

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Speaker 1: like Ruby Tuesday, Matthew, because sometimes the people there you're

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Speaker 1: just like, are you for fucking particularly in Adelaide when

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Speaker 1: we don't actually have any proper influencers and they're so

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Speaker 1: rude egos in that room.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, Ruby did advise that brands who are looking to

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Speaker 1: invite influencers to an event look for people who radiate warmth,

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Speaker 1: who have a good energy. How are going to utilize

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Speaker 1: the free margaritas and food. She also added that she

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Speaker 1: usually takes a doggie bag home from influencer events.

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Speaker 2: I love that little fact. Who wouldn't want to?

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Speaker 1: Well, as long as it's not a tough container like

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Speaker 1: that other TikTok and yeah, I mean that's a little

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Speaker 1: bit too prepared.

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Speaker 4: If it's kind of like, oh, this food is going

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Speaker 4: to go to waste, we'll take a little docu bag.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that is all we have time for today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us for another episode

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Speaker 1: but do keep an eye on our socials for a

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Speaker 2: This podcast was.

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Speaker 1: Recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of

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