1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken, the podcast It's not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: Our names are Amy Kate and Sophie Torbor. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: We're identical triplets, but we often don't have identical opinions, 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers all things 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: That is so fatch. 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Welcome back to another episode of Outspoken. Now, 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: we just want to say a big happy birthday to 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: our little cousin, Stewie. Now I say little, but he 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: is six foot five and turning twenty three, so it's 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: just making ourselves really sound old. Stewart's birthday really got 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: me thinking about whether Facebook posts are redundant now on 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: your birthday, because I think when we were in our 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: early twenties, Facebook post on your birthday was really a 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: life and death thing. It was really a status of 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: whether you were popular or not the amount of birthday 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: post you received. I used to get so worried on 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: my birthday that I wouldn't receive any comments like it's 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: actually sad that it was a legitimate fear, because I 21 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: feel like, as you said, it reflected how popular you were. 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: I think these days, though, people just tag you in 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: your story and you have to like reshare it, and 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: if you've got lots of posts that are reshared, I 25 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: suppose you look popular as well. 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, but as you say, Kay, it used. 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: To be a sign of how popular you are, but 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: now I feel like it's done a total three sixty 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: And I felt like an old loser putting together a 30 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: birthday grid for my cousin's birthday because I had to 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: go and find one of those apps. I think it's 32 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: called photo collage, and it literally was like a blast 33 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: in the past, because I feel like in twenty twelve 34 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: those photo grids were so popular. So Vie, there is 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: an Instagram approved app called layout that does that for you. 36 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: That's a modern app. It's not a pick jointer or whatever. Well, 37 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: this is probably because I am on the shittest phone 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: at the moment as I'm waiting for the new iPhone 39 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: to come out. We're actually having to record this remotely, 40 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: So I'm on the phone to you at the moment, Kay, 41 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: and I've got ten percent left on this phone, so 42 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna bloody clock out at any moment. You are 43 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: always living on the edge with your phone charger because 44 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: I constantly are you posting screenshots in the outspoken Facebook community, 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, I'm on. 46 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: Edge, how low your battery is on your phone? 47 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: It's because I wake up and by ten thirty my 48 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: phone is on about ten percent. 49 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: That's how quickly this phone drains a battery. 50 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: Well, on the topic of birthdays, it's actually Reese's NaN's 51 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: birthday on the weekend and I have been tasked along 52 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: with Pip, to create a birthday cake for her. 53 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: And I would love. 54 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: Some people's opinions on this because Reese's Nan used to 55 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: be a dressmaker, so I was thinking maybe a Dolly 56 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: Varden cake, you know, with the dress and a little 57 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: doll in it. But then I'm like, is that a 58 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: bit childish for a ninetieth birthday. I think that's a 59 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: really good idea. At least it kind of fits within 60 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: the theme. It's not like you're going and making the 61 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: poolcake or something like that. Yeah, I was tempted to 62 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: make the poolcake after seeing I think it was Pippawaane 63 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: Ganeen did an amazing job of that with little gingerbread men. 64 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: I think we've got to start another thread in our 65 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: Facebook community where people can share their different cake ideas. 66 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: We had this thread a number of months ago, and 67 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: I love seeing how creative people got for their partners 68 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: or friends. 69 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also loved the fails as well. That a 70 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: lot of fun. It might make me feel better, dude, 71 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: she was so cute, she was so tired. Oh that's 72 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: just so good. I don't say that I didn't notice 73 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 2: until at the end. Okay, yet these are these meds 74 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: and then a film some more when I are back. 75 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: Instagram power couple Talia Skeines and Mitch Third have called 76 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: it quits. 77 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: The Gold Coast. 78 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: Influencers confirmed the end of their nine year relationship on 79 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: Instagram on Monday. 80 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 2: So for what happened? Well? 81 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: On Monday night, Taralia released a statement on her Instagram 82 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: confirming the breakup. She wrote, this is not a story 83 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: I ever wanted to post, but I feel I need 84 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: to let you know as I've been getting so many 85 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: messages the past couple of weeks and months. 86 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: She then went on to. 87 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Say, it's with a heavy heart that I tell you 88 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: that Mitch and I broke up a few weeks ago. 89 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: For now, I'll just be saying that we ask that 90 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: you respect both of us during this time. Talia then 91 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: finished off by saying that she's sorry she's been so 92 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: distant lately, but there have been a lot of massive 93 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: life changes going on and should be backed posting normally 94 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: on her Instagram and YouTube accounts soon. Now. Mitch followed 95 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: up Taralia's post by sharing a photo of the couple 96 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: together before a school formal and wrote nine years of 97 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: loving you. I will always love you and be there 98 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: for you, and then ended the message with a little 99 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: white love heart. Now. I feel like Talia and Mitch 100 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: were forced to comment because there's been so much speculation 101 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: going on about their relationship. Yeah, I feel like it's 102 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: been coming for a while because I follow both of 103 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: them and I have noticed that they have not been 104 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: appearing in each other's Instagram stories, and the last time 105 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: I saw them together on their YouTube channel was back 106 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: on July twenty first, when they announced the launch of 107 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: their winter collection for their loungeware brand, Third Fix. 108 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: Now, Talia has also been. 109 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: Spending a lot of time with her female friends, and 110 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: it seems like she isn't staying at the apartment she 111 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: shares with Mitch. It seems like I'm not the only 112 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: one to have picked up on these signs because earlier 113 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: on Monday, a follower wrote on Talia's photo, how come 114 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: you're not staying with Mitch anymore? And the follower actually 115 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: tagged Mitch in a subsequent Now Mitch has gone on 116 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: and he's responded and he wrote ask Harley Shields and 117 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: he tagged Harley's account. Now the comment has been since deleted. However, 118 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: I had a sneaky look at who this Harley Shields 119 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: is and his name is actually Harley Smith Shields and 120 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: he is a professional rugby player who plays for the 121 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: Canberra Raiders in the NRL. 122 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: Now I know absolutely. 123 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: Nothing about NRL or rugby, but I do know that 124 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: Mitch Tarlias X actually plays rugby, I think at a 125 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: lower level. So I feel like that's going to sting 126 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: a little. 127 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: Bit a bit of a burn. 128 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: Now, while Harley is based in Canberra, since mid July, 129 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: the Raiders have actually been based in a hub on 130 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: the Gold Coast, So for those who don't know, Tarlius 131 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: Kaines also lives on the Gold Coast. And it's quite 132 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: confusing what exactly the hub rules in Queensland are. 133 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: So I did a little bit of research. 134 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: Into it, trying to piece it all together. So originally 135 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: players had to complete a fourteen day quarantine period before 136 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: being put into Level three restrictions, so their families were 137 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: actually flown over and quar in the hotel, and this 138 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: is what caused a lot of controversy as members of 139 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: the family were photographed passing lollies over the balcony. Yeah, 140 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: this was wild because in South Australia we very rarely 141 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: hear about NRL and I feel like we only hear 142 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: about the NRL when there is a scandal, but I 143 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: had not. 144 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: Heard about this. 145 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: So this caused the government to tighten restrictions in the 146 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: hotel and the players' families were made to ductate their 147 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: balcony shut and they were not allowed on them. There 148 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: was also another subsequent scandal where a player was forced 149 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: into quarantine after being a close contact of someone and 150 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: they ended up going out on their balcony and they 151 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: got in big trouble. And there have just been so 152 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: many scandals around the NRL being in Queensland. So there 153 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: was a State of Origin camp where thirteen Dragon players 154 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: were involved in biosecurity breaches and there have also been 155 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: two cases where players were heavily fined for bringing women 156 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: into the team hotel in Queensland, so there's a lot 157 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: been going on well. As of August, NRL players were 158 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: allowed to leave the hub for approved activities like shopping 159 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: for food and exercise, and they were also allowed to 160 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: dine at cafes and restaurants with household members and other 161 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: players from within the same hub, and nightclubs and pubs 162 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: were off the list, so they were not allowed to 163 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: attend those. So it is quite confusing how Talia and 164 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: Harley have allegedly developed this relationship. Well, the thing is, 165 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 1: it's unclear whether Harley smith Shields has broken any hub rules. 166 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: We're not implying that he has at all. I think 167 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: we're trying to work out how this relationship between he 168 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: and Tarlia has started. And it could alleged relationship, Yes, 169 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: this alleged relationship, I mean it could all be over DMS. 170 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: Some little investigators in our Facebook community noticed that both 171 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Talia and Harley posted inst stories from a yacht or 172 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: a boat on the same day. And this is of 173 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: course because Harley's team, the canber Raiders, they actually finished 174 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: up their season last week, so this is why he's 175 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: out and about, because he's no longer part of this hub, 176 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: but he's obviously stayed on in the Gold Coaster hang 177 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: out with Tar and maybe that's what Mitch's common is about, 178 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: because she is now spending all of her time with him. Now, 179 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: all these Hub rules and COVID rules aside, What does 180 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: everyone think about Mitch tagging Harley in this post and 181 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: somewhat calling out Tarlia. I really felt for Mitch because 182 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: I think that he has always had Talia's best interest 183 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: at Hardy's always seemed like a very supportive boyfriend, and 184 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: I feel like he is hurting. And to me, it 185 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: appears that he is still in their rental and that 186 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: Tarlie has moved out, which often indicates that the person 187 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: who moves out of the apartment has done something. 188 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: Really, I don't think she's moved out. 189 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: I've seen heaps of Instagram stories of her still there. 190 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: I know she's friends with them. Yeah, she's with Steph, 191 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: her friend. 192 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: I actually think it's interesting because they have This isn't 193 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: the first time they've broken up, so they have been 194 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: together for nine years, but they did have a breakup 195 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: I think around two years ago. But I always did 196 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: get the feeling that Mitch was more besotted with Talia 197 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: than she was with him. I think we spoke a 198 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: couple of months ago about that huge video. It was 199 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: a Q and A that they did together, and he 200 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: was like eating all this food and like picking at 201 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: his toe now and throwing it on her things. 202 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: And maybe she got the ick because I got the 203 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: ick watching that. 204 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: Well. Mitch pointed out the fact that they have been 205 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: together since high school, so over nine years. People do 206 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: change and evolve over time, so I think it's probably 207 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: more of a fact of them maybe growing apart. I'm 208 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: really sad because, as you say, I think Mitch was 209 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: really besotted by Talia, and I think that they had 210 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: a really fun and engaging relationship online. 211 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 2: It was fun to watch their YouTube. 212 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what it means for all of the 213 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: businesses they have together. Because they've got a villa together, 214 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: which is Villa Tami in Bali. They've also got their 215 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: business's third fixed together. What does this mean, like, are 216 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: they going to keep working together? I really hope well. 217 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Talia did study law, so I'm sure that 218 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: she would be quite savvy when it comes to contracts. 219 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: I really do hope that they had a really good 220 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: contract in place. It will be really interesting to see 221 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: what happens because, particularly with their clothing line Third Fix, 222 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: it is and women's clothes, and they appear in a 223 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: lot of the marketing collateral, which is becoming increasingly awkward 224 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: when you see it being published on their Instagram business instagram. 225 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: Will Mitch actually owns Third Fix the drink bottle company, 226 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: And then I think the lounge where Range is sort 227 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: of like a separate entity that Tylia does own. It 228 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: did get me thinking when you spoke about Vila Tami. 229 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: I wonder if the lack of travel has had anything 230 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: to do with their relationship, because Talia travels a lot 231 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: with her influencer job. She used to be bloody everywhere, 232 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: and it seems like they really enjoyed traveling to Balley together. 233 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: I wonder if the monotony of a normal relationship, you know, 234 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: working nine to five, staying at home, had something to 235 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: do with this. Well, COVID is always going to put 236 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: pressure on relationships and also working with different businesses. I'm 237 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: just interested to see whether the breakup does affect Mitch's 238 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: drink bottle business, because I would assume that a lot 239 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: of the business would come in from Talia and her 240 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: friends promoting it. So it's going to be interesting to 241 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: see which of their friends, you know, whose side they're on, 242 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: whether they're team Mitch or team Talia, or whether they 243 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: do actually get on with things and have a very 244 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: friendly working relationship. I think the fact that Mitch's already 245 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: calling out Talia's potential new love interest does indicate that 246 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: perhaps things might be a little bit rocky in terms 247 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: of their business. I do wonder, though, from Mitch's recent post, 248 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: whether he has left things open to them getting back 249 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: together if things do fall short with this new guy. Well, 250 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: it was weird timing because he called the guy out 251 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: on Monday during the day and then put up a 252 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: really sappy post because to me, it seemed like Mitch 253 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: was saying that there was a bit of an overlap 254 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: with their relationship, and then all of a sudden, it's 255 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: like he's sort of begging for her back online. So 256 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: it'll be very interesting to see what happens. That post 257 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: was clearly put up as a bit of an apology 258 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: for writing that comment, which then put the focus onto 259 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: their relationship, and that's why he put that up. I 260 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: don't think you say openly I love you if you're 261 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: not trying to get someone. But he wants her back. 262 00:11:54,760 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: He wants her back. We are pretty cocky with ourselves, 263 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: and we pre recorded this episode on Wednesday, and since then, 264 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: Talia has released a statement, and it seems like things 265 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: aren't looking too good for Mitch because I don't think 266 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: she's going to get back with him. 267 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think things are looking too good for them. 268 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: So she uploaded a post and said, thank you to 269 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: everyone for your messages the past two days. I've been 270 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: so overwhelmed by the amount of love and support, and 271 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I cannot get back to you all. 272 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: But just know I see them. Sorry before I get 273 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: into it. I feel like that's. 274 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: The most kind of dickheady thing to be like. I'm 275 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: just so overwhelmed by the amount of messages. 276 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm such a celebrity, but I do see them, so what, 277 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: I just can't get back to all of them. 278 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: Though. She then continued by saying, the past few months 279 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: have been super, super tough for me, and there's so 280 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: much I don't talk about that you guys have absolutely 281 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: no idea about. I am a private person and I 282 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: will remain the bigger person and I'm okay with that. 283 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: Now. There's two things that I want to put in 284 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: point here. 285 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: Is one, I always find it so humorous when people 286 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: who choose to share their lives on YouTube or Instagram 287 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: say that they're incredibly private people. Yeah, it's like, You're 288 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: whole career is based off you sharing your life and 289 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: monetizing it. 290 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 2: So it's like, well, give us the dirt. We want 291 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: to know. 292 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: Oh no. And it's also an opportunity when something like 293 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: this happens in your life. I know it's disgusting to 294 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: see it as an opportunity, but it is an opportunity 295 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: to connect with people, and also that that's when people 296 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: really grow as influences. The second point I do want 297 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: to look at here is also the fact that she 298 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: says I will remain the bigger person. So here she 299 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: is really throwing some shade at Mitch by saying, hey, 300 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: he's spoken out a turn here, I'm the bigger person 301 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: in this. It also indicates maybe there's some stuff that 302 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: she's holding back that he's also done well. She did 303 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: go on to say that she's excited for the future 304 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: and she's close to announcing something new she's been working on, 305 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: but for now, she's off on a holiday to Hamilton 306 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: Island and going to be taking. 307 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: Some time off social media. 308 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: Now. I always think when influencers say that they're taking 309 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: time off social media, it's a little bit sus I 310 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: do wonder if she's on a romantic getaway with her 311 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: new boyfriend, Harley Well. I did see an Instagram post 312 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: by him today where he was in a hotel room 313 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: and he was showing the view from his balcony, so 314 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: it's safe to say that that's probably what is happening. Yeah. Well, 315 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: Tylia confirmed that she is moving out and she has 316 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: been living at her friend's house for the last three 317 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: weeks and she'll be moving into an apartment on Monday 318 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: with one of her best friends. Come on, Checker, you're 319 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: a god woman going hou you need to slip. 320 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: The fuck out of it. I've had enough if you're indulged. 321 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: Bo fucking shit. 322 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: Former bachelorette Georgia Love is reportedly being investigated by her employer, 323 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: the Seven Network, after a problematic post was shared online. Sophie, 324 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: can you tell us what's happened? Well? On Monday morning, 325 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: Georgia Love shared an Instagram story showing a cat inside 326 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: an Asian restaurant, with the caption shop attendant or lunch 327 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: followed by a laughing emoji. 328 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: Now. 329 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: The post received immediate backlash, with many calling the post racist. 330 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: So Instagram page Ozsie Influence her Opinion, which holds influences 331 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: to account, re shared the video and wrote, as well 332 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: as casual racism being totally not okay, did Georgia not 333 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: take into consideration about how this would make her audience 334 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: with an Asian background feel now. Georgia was quick to 335 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: issun apology after the post. She wrote, earlier, I posted 336 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: a video of a cat in a restaurant window. I 337 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: meant for this to be a joke about an animal 338 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: being in a restaurant at lunch service time. I meant 339 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: absolutely no insinuation about the type of animal nor the 340 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: type of restaurant. But I do see that my post 341 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: did not come across like that and was offensive. I 342 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: sincerely apologize for the oversight and offense I have caused. 343 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: Thank you to those who called me out. This is 344 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: what we need to make sure we are all accountable 345 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: and do better again. I apologize from the bottom of 346 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: my heart for the offense caused. Georgia also messaged Ozzie 347 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: Influencer Opinions and thanked the page for calling out her story. 348 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: She said, I handed my heart meant for the joke 349 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: to be about animals being in a restaurant at lunch 350 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: service time, not that it was a cat specifically, nor 351 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: that it was an Asian restaurant. She then finished the 352 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: message saying she sincerely apologizes for the oversight. 353 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: And any offense that she caused. 354 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: Now. Ozsie Influencer Opinions replied, saying that they were perplexed 355 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: as to how she missed the mark given that it's 356 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: a widely known racial joke. The page continued by saying, 357 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: the discussions around Asian hate and the racial phrases are 358 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: very real and relevant right now. Ozzie Influencer Opinions also 359 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: questioned George's claims about it being a lunchtime service joke, 360 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: pointing out that the post was made at ten thirty am, 361 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: so Georgia viewed this message but did not reply. Now, 362 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: what did you guys make of the post? Georgia shared, 363 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: I actually could not believe that she would be so 364 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: foolish to post something like this in twenty twenty one, 365 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: especially what on earth was she thinking? Yeah, I agree 366 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: with you, Amy. I was shocked when I saw this 367 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: appear on her story. I thought there must be some 368 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: kind of mistake, and I do think George's excuse that 369 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: it was about a lunchtime service was really, as I said, 370 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: just an excuse. It was quite clear that the racist 371 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: joke she was trying to make, well, it didn't even make. 372 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: Her response literally made no sense, and I was just 373 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: shocked because George just seems pretty. 374 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: She does come across as. 375 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: Quite woke on her Instagram, and she seems to be 376 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: up to date with these kinds of issues. She's a 377 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: very intelligent She is extremely intelligent, and I feel like 378 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: she has had a great image online up until now, 379 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: and it just perplexes me. You know, was it a 380 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: complete brain fade to post something like. 381 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: That but she did? 382 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: Is yeah, But even if it was a brain fade, 383 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: she had time to then think about the apology, and 384 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: instead of admitting fault, she then kind of came up 385 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: with an excuse that didn't make any sense. 386 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I was pretty shocked by her apology. 387 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: I think there were elements that were really good and 388 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: then there were elements that just made no sense, and 389 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: it seemed quite apparent. 390 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: That it was very rushed. Well I was. 391 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: The influence Opinions was also not satisfied by George's message 392 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: back and did a bit of digging of their own, 393 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: so they located a post that Georgia shared on Instagram 394 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. So the post show an animal hospital 395 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: next to a restaurant called China Chef, and underneath the 396 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: photo there is a cartoon image of a dog with 397 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: eyes narrowed, saying that's suspicious, so Ozzie. Influencer Opinions shared 398 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: this on their page and said she totally knew what 399 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: she was doing, not letting this one go. So at 400 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: this time of recording, the post has received over five 401 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: thousand likes and three hundred and fifty comments, and according 402 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: to Influencer Opinions, after they shared this post, Georgia subsequently 403 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: deleted it from her feed. I can't believe it was 404 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: still on her feed from twenty thirteen. Unfortunately, that type 405 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: of joke probably was accepted in twenty thirteen. As horrible 406 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: as that is that there was a lot of casual 407 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: racism going on. However, would you not do a clear 408 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: up of your Instagram? Particularly I feel going on a 409 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: show like the Bachelorette when you're going to be skyrocking 410 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: into fame. I don't understand why the Bachelor producers didn't 411 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: flag this with her when she was about to appear 412 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: on the show. The thing is, the actually producers in 413 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen probably didn't think it was such a big 414 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: deal because casual racism like this was quite common unfortunately, 415 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: so it was probably just not even they didn't even 416 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: think about it at all. I mean, think of the 417 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: Daily Mail and all of the other publications whose job 418 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: it is to go and look for dirt on people 419 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: when they become the Bachelor or the Bachelorette. This was 420 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: never flagged then, And I think a lot of people 421 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: have had the discussion of cancel culture and people's old 422 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: tweets or old Instagram posts being dragged out and people 423 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: made to apologize for things that they previously wrote that they. 424 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: Might not mean now. 425 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: If Ozsie influencers had dragged this post out from twenty thirteen, 426 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 1: I would have thought, oh, well, Georgia might have you know, 427 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: grown by then and educated herself. But the fact that 428 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: she has then shared the same sentiments in twenty twenty 429 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: one is the issue here. Yeah, that's why it's relevant. 430 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: The post is relevant because Georgia is clearly trying to 431 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: claim that she didn't understand this joke or there was 432 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: no connotation involved in the Instagram story that she put up, 433 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: but clearly she has been caught out in this instance. Yeah, 434 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: it's very awkward, and from I'm just shocked because she 435 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: is a journalist, and I feel like journalists are always 436 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: digging up crap on people and trying to find these 437 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: sorts of things, so it does shock me that she 438 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: did have it still on her page. I think everyone 439 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: listening can probably reflect on posts that they shared ten 440 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: years ago and be quite embarrassed or maybe ashamed of 441 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that they put up, because obviously 442 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: over a decade you do evolve and change. And what 443 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: is unfortunately in this case, though, is that Georgia shared 444 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: those sort of views. 445 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, and there has been so much. 446 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: Education out there about hate towards Asian communities. It has 447 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: been an issue that has been widely discussed, and it 448 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: is really disappointing. 449 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: For her to share this sort of casual racism. 450 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: And I think the thing is that people were really 451 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: disappointed with her apology, especially because influencer apologies have been 452 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: under the microscope recently if you think back to Nadia 453 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: Bytel's apology and also Chloe zepp'sology, and the thing is that, 454 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: as you said, the start of George's statement. 455 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: Was really good. 456 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: She said that people should be held to account, but 457 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: completely denying that you meant any racist connotation from it 458 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: was just completely ignorant, and it also made people talk 459 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: about it more online. If she just shut it down 460 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: and said I'm really sorry, I'm going to educate myself, 461 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, I can see how this came 462 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: across and I'm really disgusted in myself or whatever, people 463 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: would have probably just moved on. Yeah, they wouldn't have 464 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: been that gotcha moment for izy influencers because people wouldn't 465 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: have dug any further. And I think, yeah, that was 466 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: one good thing that Nadia Bartel did. 467 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: Her apology was. 468 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: Very strong, whereas George's was not. And when she comes 469 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: from a journalism background, it just baffles me. Well, I 470 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: wonder if seven had anything to do with helping her 471 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: issue her apology. 472 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 2: I don't think they did. 473 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: You're hardly going to go to your employer and be 474 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: like I've just put this casually racist thing on my 475 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: Instagram story. 476 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: Can you help me pena response? 477 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: Like? 478 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: I think it was done very quickly and in haste. 479 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: Was so for what has the response. 480 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: Been from the Asian community. 481 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: Well. Taran Challo, who works as a multicultural commissioner in Melbourne, 482 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: explained that this kind of casual racism is harmful, particularly 483 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: during a time when there has been growing hostility towards 484 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: the Asian community. He said that racism can be about 485 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: impact and not just about the intent, and he said 486 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: I think we need to stop making excuses around casual 487 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: forms of racism and start looking at solutions. He also 488 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: said that this is a learning opportunity for people to 489 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: talk about what casual racism looks like and what it is, 490 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: and he said that he hopes it's an opportunity for 491 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: Georgia and other people in positions of power and influence 492 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: to start having conversations about race and ethnicity and the 493 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: effects that it can have on people's mental health. So 494 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: soon after the incident, Abby Chatfield weighed in and she 495 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: wrote stop Asian Hate. She then shared multiple posts about 496 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: how to tackle racism. So while Abby didn't actually address 497 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: Georgia by name. She re shared Trung's guide on how 498 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: influencers should apologize, So, if can you run us through 499 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: some of the point that he made. Well, his points 500 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: were really good, and I think that more influencers and 501 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: also other public figures who do have to make an 502 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,239 Speaker 1: apology should listen to them. His first point was that 503 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: you should spell out what you did wrong. Second, he 504 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: said you should simply admit that you were wrong. He 505 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: then said that you should acknowledge the hurt that you've caused. 506 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: The fourth point was don't make it about you. His 507 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: last point was to actually say sorry and promise to 508 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: do better. And I think that he's just put this 509 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: so well. I think that's actually spot on. And if 510 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: you look at the influencer apologies that have missed the mark, 511 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: they have not followed any of these rules. 512 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: Have they? Yeah, they definitely haven't. 513 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's good that this is out there now, 514 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: so if there are any influences that need to apologize, 515 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: they can refer to this. 516 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 2: Well, what do you guys think this. 517 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: Means for Georgia Love's journalism career moving forward? I do 518 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: think that this incident is going to affect George's journalism 519 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: career but before we go into that, Amy, can you 520 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: give us a little bit of a background about George's career. Well, 521 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: George's only been at the Seven Networks since February of 522 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: this year, and she shared this news to her followers 523 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: on Instagram and wrote hashtag new beginnings. So earlier in 524 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: the year, Georgia had been working as a reporter at 525 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: what she described as her dream job at ten News, 526 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: and she landed this role in twenty seventeen after starring 527 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: as The Bachelorette. So, Georgia was working as a freelance 528 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: reporter at Network ten and it's believed the station got 529 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: rid of some of their freelance reporters due to the 530 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen cutbacks, which saw twenty five jobs get slashed, 531 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: and of course Georgie's was one of those. And in January, 532 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: The Daily Telegraph reported that Georgia had exited the role 533 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: under mysterious circumstances, as source at the time said, nothing 534 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: was really said about it. One day a memo just 535 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,239 Speaker 1: went around saying that Georgia no longer works here. And 536 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: before appearing on The Bachelorette, Georgia also worked as a 537 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: journalist and this was in Tasmania at Win News, so 538 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: it was a huge step up for her to score 539 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: that job at Channel ten, and I think it's important 540 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: to have a look at her background in journalism because 541 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: it shows that despite her star power, she is replaceable. 542 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: Even despite the fact that she was the bachelor this 543 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: huge style with two hundred and fifty thousand followers on Instagram, 544 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: Channel ten still decided to cut her when it came 545 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: to the crunch, So I am really interested to see 546 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: how Channel seven is going to respond to these allegations. 547 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: Let's be honest. 548 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean, in the media world, it's Channel nine and 549 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: Channel seven who are the highest rating networks, and they're 550 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: the ones who actually have money to hold onto stars 551 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: like this, whereas George's position at ten it might have 552 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: been an issue with how much they were paying her 553 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: to be a freelancer at the network. So I do 554 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: think that some of the bigger networks tend to protect 555 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: their stars a little bit more than than the ones 556 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: that aren't as well off. Well back to what sort 557 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: of effect this is going to have on George's journalism career. 558 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: It has come months after seven CEO James Wilburton took 559 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: a stand against racism, So he told staff racism is 560 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: unacceptable and will. 561 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: Not be tolerated. 562 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: After a separate incident involving a staff member who published 563 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: a racist post on seven social media pages, and this 564 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: was after the Euro twenty twenty finals. So the post 565 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: accompanied a story on the site about racial abuse directed 566 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: at three English players who missed their penalty shots in 567 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: a penalty shootout that went Italy's way. The story was 568 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: initially published with the headline three black players failed in 569 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: the penalty shootout, which England lost three to two against Italy. 570 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: It was later deleted and a public apology was issued. 571 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: All the scandals for seven don't end there because last year, 572 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: former Sunrise co host Cement the Armitage and commentator pre 573 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: Mix Sween was sued for racial vilification over a twenty 574 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: eighteen discussion on the Breakfast TV show about Aboriginal adoption 575 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: that featured an all white panel. 576 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: So Prue said at the time, we need to do 577 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 2: the Stolen Generation again. 578 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: Perhaps Armitage began the segment by saying, post Stolen Generation, 579 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: there's been a huge move to leave Aboriginal children where 580 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: they are, even if they're being neglected in their own families. 581 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: Now following these statement, activists gathered outside Sunrise's Martin Place 582 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: studios demanding an apology. So media watchdog, the Australians Communication 583 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: and Media Authority later ruled that seven had breached the 584 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: Commercial Television Industry Code of Practice twenty fifteen because the 585 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: segment provoked serious contempt on the basis of race. 586 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: Well Seven have. 587 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: Actually come out and made comment and said that they 588 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: are investigating the comments made by Georgia Love. Personally, I 589 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: don't think Georgia deserves to lose her job for these comments. 590 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: What do you guys think just to set some contacts 591 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: because Amy, you can't say too much about it, But 592 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: Amy and I both lost our jobs at Channel seven, 593 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: and from experience, you can lose your job or be 594 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: punished if you bring the station into disrepute, and that 595 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: is what Georgia has done in this situation. But obviously, 596 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: legally there has to be protocols put in place in 597 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: regards to warnings, you know, hr investigations taking place. But 598 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: what you're saying is that in most contracts there is 599 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: a clause that says if you bring your employer into disrepute, 600 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: it is a sackable offense. And I suppose the discussion 601 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: is has Georgia breached this by her instace story. The 602 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: issue is that Georgia has come out, she has apologized, 603 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: and I think they need to come out with a 604 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 1: statement to say that they condemn Georgia Love's comments, that 605 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: they are educating Georgia as well as other staff members 606 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: on cultural issues and on racism in Australia. I don't 607 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: know if as someone who has lost their job over 608 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: pretty ridiculous circumstances, to me, this hits a higher level 609 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: because of Georgie's profile. The networks don't usually punish reporters 610 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: if they are bringing in ratings for them, and there 611 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: are a lot of different well there's rules for some right, 612 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: there are rules for some rules for others. I personally 613 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: think that she will keep her job because I think 614 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: they're just going to sweep it under the carpet and 615 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: just sort of pretend it didn't happen. And I think 616 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: that's usually media companies will put out a statement saying 617 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: they're doing an investigation, but it's very rare for them 618 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: to actually follow up and report back on that investigation. 619 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: It's certainly a pr tactic. 620 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: What's the investigation? 621 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: I think also what their next tactic may be is 622 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: that she probably will go on a certain break or 623 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: a holiday, wait for the immediate interest to die down, 624 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: and then she'll be back in that position. And can 625 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: I just say, we're not saying that she should lose 626 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: her job at all, like I think saying that she 627 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: needs to lose her job over this. I'm just saying, 628 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: can we actually see some comment from the Big Network. Well, 629 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: I suppose they put out saying that they're investigating it, 630 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: so that would be their commentary. Yeah, but they haven't 631 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: said that they condemned the comments. I think that this 632 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: is why this story is so popular though, amy because 633 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: so many people love Georgia. 634 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: She is such a. 635 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: Likable, funny, clever, smart woman who really captured everyone's hearts 636 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: on The Bachelorette. And I think that that's why this 637 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: story is really hitting really hard for people at the moment, 638 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: because I think people are disappointed. 639 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's why it's so important. 640 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: I think that's why it's so important though, because it 641 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: can be likable people that then push this casual racism 642 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: that is very damaging to other people. And I think 643 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: that's why it has caused so much controversy and had 644 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: so much attention because no one expected it from Georgia Love. 645 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: But I feel like that's really the message behind it, 646 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: that there are people that are good people that are 647 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: pushing casual racism that is really affecting other people. 648 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: My Dina Myson, Benata Benata. 649 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: Before we wrap things up, I've been told not to 650 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: talk about it, but I really want to talk about 651 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: Money High So I am going to recommend everyone go 652 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: and watch Part five of Money Highs. It is addictive. 653 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: I was meant to watch it slowly and enjoy it, 654 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: so Raese was like, let's watch one episode a week. 655 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: Do you think that happened? No, we finished it within 656 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: three days. It was hilarious because you told me, oh, yeah, 657 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: we're only going to be watching the one episode a week, 658 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: and Brandon and I laughed because we got through I 659 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: think in two nights. And it's one of those shows 660 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: that you've just got to keep watching because they leave 661 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: you in such suspense. Oh. 662 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: It is absolutely captivating television. 663 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: I cannot wait because they're releasing the final five episodes 664 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: of part five in December, and I'm already counting down 665 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 1: the day, so I highly recommend you watch it. It 666 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: was not my I really am so prize that I 667 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: even like it. Like when you talk about what it's 668 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: actually about. You know, these misfits got doing a heist 669 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: on a bank. You're like, that is boring, but it's 670 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: literally the best TV show ever. Can I just say 671 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: it was such a kick in the dick moment when 672 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, we're releasing the final series and then 673 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: you find out that they've only released five episodes and 674 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: they're leaving the rest of the five until December. 675 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: Like that was that was very cruel. 676 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: Oh, I know I'm still angry at them, but I 677 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: love them at the same time. I think that's all 678 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: we have time for. Thank you so much for joining 679 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: us for today's episode. If you have enjoyed it, could 680 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: you please make sure that you recommend our podcast to 681 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 1: a friend and also can you make sure you are 682 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: subscribing and leaving us a five star rating. 683 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not asking for too much. They're just like 684 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: three simple things. 685 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: And if you want to join in on the conversation, 686 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: head over to our Facebook community, which has outspoken the 687 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: podcast community, and make sure you tag us in where 688 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: you're listening from