WEBVTT - Kayla Itsines' New Man, Instagram's First Lady & Call Her Daddy Backlash

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<v Speaker 1>This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say

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<v Speaker 1>so fetch Thank you, welcome back to Outspoken. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't quite believe what I'm seeing on Instagram at the

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<v Speaker 1>moment of what I have just seen. So Sophie Kasha

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<v Speaker 1>has just shed an Instagram story of her partner Mattie

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<v Speaker 1>Garrick playing a recording in slow mo of her parts

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<v Speaker 1>back to Sophie Kation. Now, I think that that signifies

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<v Speaker 1>true love that Sophie is happy.

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<v Speaker 2>To sit there and listen to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the context of this insta story? Why is

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<v Speaker 1>she playing back her farts? There is no context, no

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<v Speaker 1>context whatsoever. She is just something she enjoys doing. She

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed recording her farts and then she wanted to go

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<v Speaker 1>on show.

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<v Speaker 2>So see just proud of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose I actually have a friend who downloaded an

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<v Speaker 1>app on their phone and it's the one where you

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<v Speaker 1>can hear how many times you wake up in the night.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, if you make any sound in your sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>like snoring or whatever, it starts recording.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Use it to see if they sleep. Talk to this

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<v Speaker 1>friend of mine, she recorded it and it picked up

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<v Speaker 1>her husband doing the loudest, most disgusting fart you've ever heard,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the funniest thing. Ever. It's just so

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<v Speaker 1>foreign to me because I feel like that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to hide from your partner. Like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of women go out of their way

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<v Speaker 1>not to far in front of their partner, so to

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<v Speaker 1>record it and then send it directly to them, it

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<v Speaker 1>just sounds insane to me. See to me, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a sign that you're very comfortable around someone

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<v Speaker 1>and that you've reached this new level of intimacy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the recording of it and the playing back

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<v Speaker 1>in slow mode is a little bit much for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would have no interest in hearing Brandon playback

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<v Speaker 1>is fast. Do you know what, though, I can see

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the fart being in slow mo, because

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<v Speaker 1>if it's just like it is pretty funny, but probably

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<v Speaker 1>not something i'd be showing to Dale.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that a fight?

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<v Speaker 4>I can teast it, Okay, I'll be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I did it so onion, onion and onion and ketchup.

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<v Speaker 1>It's six Kayla, It's Cenis has unveiled her new boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>just two weeks after her ex Toby Pierce went public

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<v Speaker 1>with his new fitness influencer girlfriend Rachel Dylan Amy can

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<v Speaker 1>you tell us more? Kayla shared a photo of her

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<v Speaker 1>and her new partner, Jay Woodroff to her nearly fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>million Instagram followers on Friday morning, and the pair looked

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<v Speaker 1>very loved.

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<v Speaker 2>Up in the photo. They had big smiles. Actually, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>was commenting on just.

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<v Speaker 1>How white their teeth looked as well, and in the caption,

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<v Speaker 1>Kayla wrote, meet Jay everyone, my best friend for years

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<v Speaker 1>and now partner.

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<v Speaker 2>For all those people.

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<v Speaker 1>Replying into my story saying you look really happy, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so.

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<v Speaker 1>The relationship comes as no surprise, with Kayla and Jay

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<v Speaker 1>already papped many times in Adelaide, and while it's the

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<v Speaker 1>first time Kayla has shared a photo of her new

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend on her public Instagram account, Jay has shared quite

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<v Speaker 1>a few.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one was back.

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<v Speaker 1>On November twenty eight, twenty twenty one, with Kayla cuddling

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<v Speaker 1>into him while posing in sunglasses, and Jay also shared

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<v Speaker 1>a real of the couple's holiday to Sydney and nooser

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<v Speaker 1>So at the time of recording, Jay has attracted around

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<v Speaker 1>eight thousand new followers, and he's already added the initials

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<v Speaker 1>ki with a love heart into his bio on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say her previous boyfriend for two seconds? Mitch?

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<v Speaker 1>He also had Kayla's initials in his bio. It kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reminds me of that very teenage thing where you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to make sure that your girlfriend's initials are in

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<v Speaker 1>your bill, keep them happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have Brandon's initials? I feel like that's something

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<v Speaker 2>that you guys would do. No, I don't at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not have that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's the cooler version of Facebook official.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually don't know if it is the cool thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I feel like it's very high school. But

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<v Speaker 1>if it's kind of possessive, like this person is mine,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A real new love thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not going to go and put Dale's initials

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, But if you've just got a new boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably like, Oh, I'm excited to put his initials in.

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<v Speaker 1>They definitely are very loved up on Instagram because they've

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<v Speaker 1>also created a couple's account called It's Jayla Here, and

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<v Speaker 1>it appears they're going to be posting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>content from their upcoming holiday to the US, because Jay

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<v Speaker 1>did announce on his Instagram on Friday that it's seven

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<v Speaker 1>days until the couple jet sets off to the US.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming for some type of boot camp with Kayla.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you reckon that this holiday is the reason that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going public with the relationship or do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it more has to do with the fact that Toby

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<v Speaker 1>and Rachel are getting so much attention over their relationship. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the timing was interesting, as you said, because it was

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<v Speaker 1>only two weeks ago that Toby Pierce debuted his new girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Dylan. So perhaps it was seeing how well that

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<v Speaker 1>news was received that Kayla thought, oh, stuff it, I

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<v Speaker 1>might as well go public with my partner that I've

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<v Speaker 1>had for a while. Kayla's mum also got into the action.

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<v Speaker 1>She put up a post saying, welcome to the family. Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>you make my daughter smile, So I like you so

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<v Speaker 1>kay I want to hear all the juicy details you've uncovered,

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<v Speaker 1>because you've done a bit of digging. Yeah. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to set the scene because we have spoken about

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<v Speaker 1>Kayla and Jay before on the podcast. But for those

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know, as reported on the podcast and also

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<v Speaker 1>several news publications, Kayler and her now boyfriend Jay used

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<v Speaker 1>to be neighbors in Malvin. And for those who were

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<v Speaker 1>listening that aren't from Adelaide, that is a suburb in Adelaide.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. We're not trying to say Melbourne. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a listener a couple of weeks ago, say, you say

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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne's so funny, So it's Malvin. Does it actually think

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<v Speaker 1>a suburb?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't they have Maulvin in Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So yeah, said a little bit differently in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jay was living in Malvin with his girlfriend of

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<v Speaker 1>five years, Lauren Beletti, and Kayler and her then boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch even went on a couple's holiday with Jay and

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren to Queensland in May twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>However, just months.

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<v Speaker 1>Later, Kayla and Jay appeared to have started dating, and

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<v Speaker 1>while Lauren no longer follows Jay and Kayla on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>she and Kayla's ex Mitch are still friends, so Mitch

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<v Speaker 1>even commented on the post Lauren shared about moving house

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<v Speaker 1>in December, writing congrats mate, you deserve this win with

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<v Speaker 1>a thumbs up emoji.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Another one of Lauren's friends wrote on the post, look

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<v Speaker 1>at you. So proud of everything you've achieved. Can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate many more achievements. Even though August was your

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<v Speaker 1>hardest month, you were still able to achieve this. Love

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<v Speaker 1>you boo now. I just thought it was very telling

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<v Speaker 1>the timeline of this August was really hard for you

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm guessing that's when Jay broke up with Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just shows how sort of close the timelines

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<v Speaker 1>are in relation to the holiday that the couples went on.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's only a few months where all of

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<v Speaker 1>this happened and everything sort of imploded. But it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to note that Kayla's grandfather of all people, has confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram last week that there was no infidelity involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this new love match. Now is literally the best

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<v Speaker 1>account I've seen on Instagram, and John created the account

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<v Speaker 1>on the eighteenth of January and he's already got over

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two thousand followers. So if anyone is looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a laugh, I highly recommend you go follow the account

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<v Speaker 1>which is called it Cina's Family. Now it's quite clear

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<v Speaker 1>that Kayla or her sister Leah is running the account.

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<v Speaker 1>They have denied it. However, I would put my money

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<v Speaker 1>on the fact that it's one of them, and I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked seeing this side of Kayler or Leah's personality

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<v Speaker 1>because it's bloody funny. They're all taking the piss out

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<v Speaker 1>of each other. And they even did a Q and

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<v Speaker 1>A as John, So he set the records straight on

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<v Speaker 1>his granddaughter's relationship in the Q and A. So when

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<v Speaker 1>asked how Kayla met her new boyfriend, John wrote, so

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<v Speaker 1>glad I can clear this mess up. Jay and Kayler

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<v Speaker 1>were best friends for years. It was Kayla, Jay and

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<v Speaker 1>Steve three idiots, both had partners, both split with their partners,

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<v Speaker 1>and later got together. Having been best friends for years,

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<v Speaker 1>it was easy to accept Jay into the family because

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<v Speaker 1>he had already been part of it as Kayla's best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>The variation to this story is a lie slash guest

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<v Speaker 1>might drop and so. John's Instagram account also includes a

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<v Speaker 1>post with a blurb about each family member, including Jay.

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<v Speaker 1>So John said, Jay is secretly German, pretending to be

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<v Speaker 1>an Aussie and rocks up to my house every month

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<v Speaker 1>with a new car. He also said that he makes

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<v Speaker 1>an effort to come over every day to have a

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<v Speaker 1>coffee with him and his wife Angela. Now I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was quite entertaining because someone asked, when did you

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<v Speaker 1>realize you liked Jay, and the grandfather replied with some

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<v Speaker 1>vision of Jay killing a spider with cooking spray and

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<v Speaker 1>lighting it on fire. See for me, I'm not like

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<v Speaker 1>the Estina's grandfather. That puts me off. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that people lighting bugs on fire. I get

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<v Speaker 1>told off by Brandon all the time because Brandon grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in the country, so he and his family hate

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<v Speaker 1>insects like most people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I save spiders.

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<v Speaker 1>And I saved them all because I'm a vegetarian except mosquitos.

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<v Speaker 2>I kill mosquitos.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Well, what did you guys think about the scrutiny

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<v Speaker 1>around and Jay's relationship?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think it was fair?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I'm not surprised that there has been so much

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<v Speaker 1>interest in their relationship and so many rumors surrounding it,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously they both had partners so close together, and

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<v Speaker 1>also the fact that Kayla and Jay's girlfriend were friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like a lot of people talk in Adelaide.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of wild rumors going around. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a pretty complex situation, particularly for the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it does appear that Kayla did befriend Lauren at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, and obviously there is some contention whether she

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<v Speaker 1>was friends with Jay first. However, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are reacting to it because it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>breaks a bit of girl coade because generally, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>friends with someone, you don't date their partner, so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of speculation of cheating aside, I think there

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<v Speaker 1>was always going to be rumors about this relationship, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested to see if Lauren does come out and

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<v Speaker 1>say something at one point, because she has remained very

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<v Speaker 1>quiet on the issue. Yeah, And the thing is, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really awkward because when you look back at Lauren's Instagram account,

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<v Speaker 1>she has a lot of photos still up with Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kayla has commented on the photos, you know, little

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<v Speaker 1>love hearts or just comments like great photo, And when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at that, it's really awkward. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually feel for everyone in this situation. Because Kayla's

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<v Speaker 1>family have said there was no cheating involved, they were

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<v Speaker 1>friends and both parties were split up from their partners,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's really hard to judge because it would be

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<v Speaker 1>a hard situation. We've got to remember that Kayla was

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<v Speaker 1>with her partner for eight years, and it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>her and Jay were friends for a long time. So

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<v Speaker 1>there is that awkward thing where maybe you've had a

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<v Speaker 1>secret crush on someone but they've got a partner and

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<v Speaker 1>your past don't seem to match up, and maybe in

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<v Speaker 1>this instance, it was that occasion where hey, they were

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly both found themselves single. I just think it's awkward

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<v Speaker 1>with the timeline, considering that they all had gone on

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<v Speaker 1>a couple's holiday a couple of months before the breakup happened.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing I feel like it is the foundations

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<v Speaker 1>for really great relationship, the fact that they have been

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<v Speaker 1>best friends for so many years. They obviously have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of respect for one another, and it is really

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<v Speaker 1>nice to see them both looking so happy together. Just

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<v Speaker 1>to wrap things up, it's quite interesting because Kayla's ex, Mitch,

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<v Speaker 1>who was never hard launched on her profile, actually hard

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<v Speaker 1>launched his new relationship with his girlfriend on January twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was quite a busy time for this Love

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<v Speaker 1>Square in terms of announcing relationships. As for Kayla's ex Toby,

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<v Speaker 1>it's reported he has just purchased a five point three

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar penthouse apartment in Adelaide. The apartment has five bedrooms,

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<v Speaker 1>four bathrooms, with the rooftop entertaining area featuring a built

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<v Speaker 1>in barbecue wood, five peaks, oven, spa and bar entire

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<v Speaker 1>Channel four news team I'm Veronica Corningstone and I'm Ron Burgundy.

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<v Speaker 4>Go fuck yourself, San Diego.

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<v Speaker 1>Slickstick owner Mia Pleasick has announced her boyfriend Justin Borg

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<v Speaker 1>is an official endorsed candidate for Melbourne in the upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>federal election for Clive Palmer's United Party, Amy, can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell us a little bit more about Mia plasic So.

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<v Speaker 1>Mia is an entrepreneur and influencer who we've discussed a

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<v Speaker 1>few times on the podcast. She has seventy five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>followers on TikTok and sixteen point six on Instagram. So

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<v Speaker 1>during the pandemic, Mia launch Slickstick, which is a hair

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<v Speaker 1>one designed to keep stray hairs in place. So MIA's

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<v Speaker 1>quite controversial. She's been accused of being anti lockdown after

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<v Speaker 1>she posted a video of herself attending the first Freedom

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<v Speaker 1>Rallies in Melbourne. So In the video, she shared vision

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<v Speaker 1>of the sea of protesters with the caption what the

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<v Speaker 1>media won't show you Thirty thousand Victorians protesting for their

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<v Speaker 1>rights for freedom. Mia has also been accused of being

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<v Speaker 1>anti vax after she shared on her Instagram story that

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<v Speaker 1>she would not be bribed into getting the vaccination with.

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<v Speaker 2>The lure of travel.

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<v Speaker 1>Her follower asked her in a Q and A if

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<v Speaker 1>she will get the vaccine if it's a prerequisite to travel.

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<v Speaker 1>Mia responded saying no, I'll pay a black market doctor

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<v Speaker 1>to sign my COVID pass. What if I have to,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck. I'll go as far as

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<v Speaker 1>I need. Nobody will bribe me to jab poison in

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<v Speaker 1>my body in order to be free. Mia then back

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<v Speaker 1>down and she changed her chin completely, saying what I

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<v Speaker 1>choose to do or not to do with my body

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<v Speaker 1>is nobody's business.

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<v Speaker 2>So now that we know Mia, who is her boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Justin describes himself as a thirty two year old entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he released an extensive video explaining his political standpoint

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<v Speaker 1>and policies, but didn't really explain his background in business

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<v Speaker 1>thus far, so I did a bit of digging now.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently Justin completed an event management and marketing degree. He

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<v Speaker 1>also previously worked as a caravan salesman before starting a

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<v Speaker 1>dating app in twenty seventeen called spot It on LinkedIn.

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<v Speaker 1>It also says he is an investor for a Melbourne

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<v Speaker 1>startup now similar to Mia, Justin has been very critical

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<v Speaker 1>across his social media about the lockdowns and also the vaccine.

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<v Speaker 1>He has shared numerous Instagram stories of himself at freedom protests,

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<v Speaker 1>writing captions like you can stick the vaccine up your ass.

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<v Speaker 1>He also wrote so proud we are finally standing up

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<v Speaker 1>to this dictatorship. He also shared a meme saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he would fly privately to avoid any vaccine mandates now.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, Miya shared a photo of Justin standing in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a United Party sign that said vote for Freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>In the post, she wrote, so proud of you, just

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<v Speaker 1>the official endorsed candidate for Melbourne in the upcoming federal

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<v Speaker 1>election for the United Party. Your passion for this country's

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<v Speaker 1>freedom is commendable if you're in the Melbourne electorate and

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<v Speaker 1>want to help with his upcoming campaign get in touch,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she tagged his Instagram handle. She finished the

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<v Speaker 1>post by hashtagging hottest politician ever. Now I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit ross Gelli here for a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>because this comment from mea was very difficult to read

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<v Speaker 1>out because not only did she spell electorate incorrectly, she

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<v Speaker 1>also used the incorrect plural for countries and also did

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<v Speaker 1>not put an apostrophe in there. You'd think with this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of post, you would want to get the spelling

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<v Speaker 1>right so that you're taken seriously, we're talking about posts.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin also shared the news on his social media saying

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<v Speaker 1>never in a million years did he think he'd ever

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<v Speaker 1>get into politics. However, he can no longer sit back

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<v Speaker 1>and let this country suffer anymore. He finished by saying

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<v Speaker 1>everyone needs the freedom of choice and I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 1>fight for all Australians. Justin then shared a lengthy twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two minute video talking about his common sense approach to

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<v Speaker 1>politics and after watching it, I literally want the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes back of my life now.

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<v Speaker 2>He said.

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<v Speaker 1>He thinks there should be a rule that politicians must

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<v Speaker 1>have done another career or run a business before getting

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<v Speaker 1>into politics. He said, so many simply get out of

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<v Speaker 1>UNI and go straight into politics and have no life experience.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that while he is not book smarts, he

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<v Speaker 1>is street smarts.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like a lot of politicians these days have

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<v Speaker 3>just cave shout out of UNI. He always wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>be at being politics, you know, start off as a

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<v Speaker 3>staffer or a volunteer, and then work their way up

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<v Speaker 3>the ranks where they haven't really had real life experience.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, you know, like going to union's great, but

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<v Speaker 3>then getting thrown into the defense just to be a politician.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just, you know, there should be some sorts of

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<v Speaker 3>rules where politicians have to have done other careers around

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<v Speaker 3>businesses or something like that to get some real world

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<v Speaker 3>experience rather than just being book smart. I'm a book smart,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm straet smart, I'm a problem solve but I'm business smart.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we are a lot of these politicians just

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<v Speaker 3>make decisions for their political career, their points to roar

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<v Speaker 3>inability rather than you know, what's right for the people.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to point out here that while there

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<v Speaker 1>are a certain number of politicians who go straight into

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<v Speaker 1>politics from union work in those junior roles because they

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<v Speaker 1>are so passionate about it. There are many who have

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<v Speaker 1>had careers before getting into politics. I mean you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to think of Julia Gillard and Malcolm Turnbull who

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<v Speaker 1>had very successful careers in law before getting into politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the essay.

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<v Speaker 1>Premier Stephen Marshall used to run his father's furniture store,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's a bit naive to say that

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<v Speaker 1>no politicians have experience in running a business or having

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<v Speaker 1>a career before politics. I think what he was really

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do here is target Dan Andrews. He has

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<v Speaker 1>been vile towards Dan Andrews. He continually calls him dictateord Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just find his whole stance very puzzling because

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to be elected for this position, but having

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<v Speaker 1>a look at what he actually stands for, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>just in regards to COVID. There aren't many other areas

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<v Speaker 1>he seems to be passionate about. Because he went on

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<v Speaker 1>to explain that he only looked at the United Parties

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<v Speaker 1>policy when he was applying for the position, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought was pretty strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you apply to be a candidate for a

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<v Speaker 1>party when you aren't even aware of their policies In

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<v Speaker 1>the first place, because he wants to jump up and

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<v Speaker 1>down and complain about vaccine mandates. Clearly now, Justin listed

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram the thirteen things he'd love to see happen

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<v Speaker 1>if he was elected, and unfortunately the spelling errors continued.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote that he would push for a Royal communism

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<v Speaker 1>into vaccine safety, and that was very awkward because he

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<v Speaker 1>of course meant to write Royal Commission.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily, someone in the comments section pointed out to him

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<v Speaker 1>and he swiftly changed the spelling. He also said he'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to end vaccine men have no vaccine passport, reform

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<v Speaker 1>media and big tech censorship, and give rapid tests to

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<v Speaker 1>all Australians. He also said he would lift bands on

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<v Speaker 1>de register doctors who spoke against the government's narrative. The

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<v Speaker 1>list just went on and on about COVID. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the only policy I could really get around was that

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<v Speaker 1>he wants Australia to become a more pet friendly nation.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically he doesn't stand for anything except pets and COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, pretty much pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>This seems very reminiscent of when Nick Russian was running

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<v Speaker 1>for the mayor of Melbourne and he got all these

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<v Speaker 1>social media influences to drum up.

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<v Speaker 2>Votes for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like Mia has a big enough following

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<v Speaker 1>for this to work for Justin. I mean, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work for Nick Russian either. I think they just need

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<v Speaker 1>to stick to the slicksticks, the dating apps, whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>want to create.

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<v Speaker 2>Know your Place.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and by the way, why are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Apostrophe are means you are? Why do you are? Means your?

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Lin Spears's reputation is in tatters after appearing on

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<v Speaker 1>popular podcasts Call Her Daddy to I wrote her new

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<v Speaker 1>memoir Things I Should Have Said. Many of questioned whether

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<v Speaker 1>the hit podcast should have given Jamie Lynn a platform,

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<v Speaker 1>with many calling to cancel Call Her Daddy Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Amy.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like the timing of.

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<v Speaker 1>The interview hasn't been well received by the public and

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<v Speaker 1>it has.

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<v Speaker 2>Led to a lot of backlash. Yeah, it really has.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Lynn's Call Her Daddy interview ed just a few

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<v Speaker 1>months after Brittany was finally freed from her much publicized

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen year conservativeship, and many people believe it was a

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<v Speaker 1>bad move for Jamie Lynn to release her book so

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<v Speaker 1>soon after.

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<v Speaker 2>News of the conservativeship being dissolved.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the book is really being viewed by many

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<v Speaker 1>as a bit of a cash grab because it's being

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<v Speaker 1>perceived that she's writing off the back of publicity after

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<v Speaker 1>Britney's awful ordeal. Now Brittany has actually spoken publicly on

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<v Speaker 1>social media calling out the book and subsequent interviews with

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<v Speaker 1>Call Her Daddy and an interview Jamie Lind did on

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<v Speaker 1>Good Morning America. And I mean, to me, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a really odd move for Jamie Lynn to release

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<v Speaker 1>this book at this time because at the moment, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the public of viewing Britney's family through a

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<v Speaker 1>very similar lens for their part in the Conservativeship, and

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<v Speaker 1>many people think that what Britney's family did was absolutely disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>So Amy, for those who don't know much about this

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<v Speaker 1>Conservative ship, can you bring us up to speed?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Conservative Ship was put in place in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight after Brittany was hospitalized following a series

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<v Speaker 1>of public incidents. So the Conservativeship gave her father, Jamie Spears,

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<v Speaker 1>and Britney's management team total control over her finances and

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<v Speaker 1>personal matters, and in June twenty twenty one, Brittany referred

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<v Speaker 1>to the Conservativeship as abusive and claimed her father and

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<v Speaker 1>management team would not allow her to see a doctor

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<v Speaker 1>to remove her IUD and force her to take lithium

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a drug that's used to treat bipolar disorder.

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<v Speaker 2>A recent New.

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<v Speaker 1>York Times documentary also aired allegations that her father planted

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<v Speaker 1>a surveillance apparatus that captured audio recordings from her bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>So fans began a Free Britney movement, which gained worldwide attention,

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<v Speaker 1>and in November twenty twenty one, Brittany was finally freed

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<v Speaker 1>from her conservativeship. So during court proceedings, Britney accused her mother, father,

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<v Speaker 1>and sister of doing nothing to help her. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we've got to get into some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>juicy points from this Call her Daddy interview. So Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>Lynn really didn't hold back at all, and she did

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<v Speaker 1>spill a lot of family secrets.

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<v Speaker 2>So she spoke about her.

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<v Speaker 1>Father's addiction to alcohol and how her mom was often

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<v Speaker 1>too scared to stand up to him. She told Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper that Brittany had offered to buy her mom a

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<v Speaker 1>house if she agreed to leave her dad, which she did. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Lynn also revealed that her mom had beaten her

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<v Speaker 1>with a large beaded purse which contained a camera inside.

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<v Speaker 1>She said her mum repeatedly swung the bag and it

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<v Speaker 1>landed several blows to her shoulder. This part was quite

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<v Speaker 1>sad because Jamie Lynn revealed to Alex that she always

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<v Speaker 1>felt like an afterthought her whole life. She said, my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life. I kind of felt like I didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>She said from an early age, she knew she was

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<v Speaker 1>an accident, so this was early on in the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>She basically said that her name Jamie Lynn. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you've picked up on Sophie, but Jamie is

0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:09.160
<v Speaker 1>her dad's name and Lynnie is her mom's name. What's interesting, though,

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.399
<v Speaker 1>is the Lynn in her name is spelled differently to

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:13.399
<v Speaker 1>the mother's spelling of it, and she said that just

0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 1>blew her mind, whereas Brittany and her brother both have

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 1>been names, so she always knew. She's like, Mum, why

0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:21.480
<v Speaker 1>did you call me this name? It's like you didn't

0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.960
<v Speaker 1>even care about me. It's very strange, though, to have

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<v Speaker 1>both your parents' names. I don't know, I said some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of precedence though, that you're trying. I would have

0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.720
<v Speaker 1>thought it set the precedents that you're trying to impress

0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.760
<v Speaker 1>them and live up to their name. Well, her view

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<v Speaker 1>was that they almost just couldn't be bothered to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with a name, so they put their names together

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:41.959
<v Speaker 1>because from an early age, she was told that she

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<v Speaker 1>was an accident because her dad had had a vasectomy

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>before she was born and it hadn't worked well. Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>Lynn did actually refute claims so that she was jealous

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>of Brittany. She insisted that she was nothing but proud

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:57.040
<v Speaker 1>of her sister and she was inspired by her achievements.

0:22:57.280 --> 0:22:59.760
<v Speaker 1>She told Alex I got to experience watching a woman

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<v Speaker 1>take over the fucking world. How can I be jealous

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<v Speaker 1>of that? I did feel bad listening to this part

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<v Speaker 1>of the interview because I felt like Jamie Lynn really

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:10.600
<v Speaker 1>had to defend herself. I mean, there's been so much

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<v Speaker 1>publicity basically around the fact that people believe Jamie Lynn

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.119
<v Speaker 1>is so jealous and that's why she's speaking out and

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<v Speaker 1>as a sister, As someone who has two sisters, I

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 1>think it would be hard not to be a little

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 1>bit jealous. I mean, it might have been more human

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>if she did admit that growing up, yeah, I was

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 1>a bit jealous, but on hinndsight now as an adult,

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>it was incredible to see Brittany takeover. I mean to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, from listening to the whole two part interview,

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I don't actually think she necessarily was

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>jealous of Brittany, but I feel like she was more

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 1>upset in terms of the.

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:45.679
<v Speaker 2>Treatment she received from her parents.

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like her parents held Brittany up to such

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<v Speaker 1>high regard because she was this cash cow making a

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.399
<v Speaker 1>lot of money, whereas, as she said, she was always

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 1>an afterthought for her parents.

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<v Speaker 2>We was pretty crazy because.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely forgot that Jamie Lynn felt pregnant at Sea,

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<v Speaker 1>because I haven't heard much about her child now because

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 1>her child would be a teenager because she's now in

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 1>her thirties. Yeah, her daughter's thirteen. So she fell pregnant.

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:11.919
<v Speaker 1>Remember she was on that Disney TV show and it

0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>was such big news. I remember Entertainment Tonight was going

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 1>on about it. Well, particularly because there was so much

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>media attention around the fact that Britney Spears wanted to

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.160
<v Speaker 1>remain a virgin. Yeah, but I think it was also

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>because during this time, this is when Britney was having

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 1>a few mental health issues as well. And there was

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a big spotlight on the family. But Jamie Lynn revealed

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<v Speaker 1>how she basically had no say in where she wanted

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to live in anything to do with her baby. She

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>said her team were pushing her to have an abortion

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and she was basically forced to live in this small

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>country town with her mother with no internet for a

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 1>few months before this all blew over. And so I

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:50.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you remember this, but there was also

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of media attention around the fact that Jamie

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Lynn basically divorced her parents, so she became emancipated from

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:02.400
<v Speaker 1>her parents. Wow. Now, probably one of the most sensational

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>claims made by Jamie Lynn was that Brittany once pulled

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>out a knife when Jamie Lynn was younger and locked

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the two in a room together. Now, this is something

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 1>which Brittany has flat out denied. So Brittany took to

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:19.360
<v Speaker 1>social media to slam Jamie Lynn, writing, Jamie Lynn, congrats, babe,

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 1>You've stooped to a whole new level of low. I've

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 1>never been around you ever with a knife or what

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I ever even think to do such, So please please

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 1>stop with these crazy lies for the Hollywood books. Now

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and only now, I do know only a scum person

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 1>would make up such things about someone. I'm actually very

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>confused about you making that up, because it's honestly not

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>like you at all around the kids, Jamie Lynn. Seriously,

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.399
<v Speaker 1>come on, congrats on introducing to your older sister the

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>concept of getting low lower lowest because you in on

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:53.199
<v Speaker 1>that one, babe. God, That's that's pretty telling, it is.

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 1>And what's really interesting is that I feel like normally

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>people might have slammed Brittany forgetting off on social media

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and airing dirty laundry and having a go at Jamie Lynn.

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, social media has been the only

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 1>way Brittany has really been able to speak out to

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>her fans.

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 2>And everyone is.

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>So used to Brittany being so honest and open on

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 1>social media that everyone's gone good on it, good on

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>it for calling out Jamie Lynn. And you know these

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:20.879
<v Speaker 1>claims that Jamie Lynn has made on Call her Daddy?

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Is it wrong that I do feel a bit of

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.159
<v Speaker 1>sympathy for Jamie Lynn though it sounds like she has

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:29.360
<v Speaker 1>lived an absolutely abhorrent life and hasn't had much support

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>from her family either. Well, this is the thing Jamie

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Lynn used this call her Daddy interview kind of to

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>defend herself because there has been so many accusations about

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Jamie Lynn which have been made during this Conservativeship court case,

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:46.439
<v Speaker 1>so surely she should have a right of reply. So

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>just like her parents have treated her awfully as well.

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Exactly so, Jamie Lynn has claimed that she did try

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>and help get her sister out of this Conservativeship by

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>offering her.

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Some legal advice.

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>But to be honest, this was all very vague and

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>quite hard to follow.

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 2>In podcast Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The planned two part Podcasts episode, it didn't really run

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>as smoothly as Alex Cooper would have liked. No, it didn't,

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>So the first episode dropped on January eighteenth. Then hours

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>later there were reports that Britney's legal team had sent

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Jamie Lynn a cease and desist letter that ordered her

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>not to mention Britney. So in the letter, Britney's lawyers wrote,

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>although Brittany has not read and does not intend to

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>read your book, she and millions of her fans were

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>shocked to see.

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 2>How you have exploited her for monetary gain.

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Now, the second installment of Jamie Lynn's interview on Caller

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Daddy was supposed to drop the next day on January nineteenth. However,

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>due to the legal letter, it was uploaded the next

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:41.400
<v Speaker 1>day on January twentieth, and of course this helped call

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 1>her daddy out so much because it built even more

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 1>hype around this very much anticipated episode. Now, there has

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>also been a lot of talk about Alex Cooper's interview style,

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and many critics have said that as an interviewer, Alex

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>tends to favor her guests and you can tell that

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>she tries to make her interview talent feel as comfortable

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 1>as possible so that they keep speaking and opening up

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to her. How did you find her as an interviewer

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>in this conversation, Well, I actually thought Alex did a

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>good job of putting Jamie Lynn at ease. And obviously

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>there would have been a lot of background work that

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>went into getting this interview, as you'd know, Sophy. What

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>they teach you in journalism is that you have to

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 1>make your interview you feel comfortable enough to open up

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>in the first place, and you're supposed to get all

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.679
<v Speaker 1>the easy questions out there to begin with and then

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>hit them with the harder questions. And it's basically if

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>they walk out of the interview You've still got some

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>content there. But that's what Alex did. She did ask

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the tough questions later on in the interview. I mean,

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like at the end of the day,

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>people can critique Alex's interview skills all they like, but

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the success of call Their Daddy and Alex Cooper is

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they were even able to book Jamie

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Lynn's interview and they were able to get access to her.

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Because this is arguably one of the biggest pop culture

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>stories of the last five years, and it shows just

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>how powerful Call Her Daddy is As a journalist. I

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>really feel like you need to allow your talent, as

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you say, Amy, to feel comfortable and safe to open up.

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.719
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like Alex in the moments where Alex

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.479
<v Speaker 1>needed to, she did press certain topics and you know,

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>ask for more information. I mean, legally, they wouldn't have

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>been able to put that interview out there if they

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't have the details that they needed from Jamie exactly.

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's really interesting as well when you do

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>look at the evolution of Caller Daddy, because I feel like,

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>since the highly publicized departure of Sophia Franklin, who was

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>the co host of Call It Daddy. There has been

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a conscious effort made by Alex to take the podcast

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>into a new era, and she's openly dubbed this the

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>single father era. So when the podcast was still with Barstool,

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>which is a network that really only ran male dominated podcasts,

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.479
<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of sports podcasts, you could clearly

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>see a shift in the type of content Alex discussed,

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and there was more of an effort to talk to

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>big name guests like Miley Cyrus and well known influencers

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>once Sophia had left the show, and even now since

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the sixty million dollar deal with Spotify, we are seeing

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a change in how Alex and the show is marketed.

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>So we can see that Alex is tackling bigger issues

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and she has moved away from just talking to influencers

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>and reality stars about their sex lives. And in the

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>last couple of months, we've seen high profile interviews with

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Emily Radikowski, who spoke out about her sexual assault, and

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>she also did a high profile interview with Amanda Knox,

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>who was wrongly accused of murder. That's the thing, like,

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Alex Cooper is claiming to be a

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>journalist it is different when journalists interview big names and

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>are too scared to ask the tough questions. She's a

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>personality in herself. Yes, she's a podcaster, she's not a journalist. Yeah,

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean I agree with that, But I'm more talking

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>about the evolution of caller Daddy because even our mom

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>has been listening to call her Daddy, and you think

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>back to even last year, you'd never be like, oh, mum,

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>go listen to call her daddy, Like listen to the

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>gluck gluck nine thousand. The fact is Alex has taken

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>this podcast from being predominantly a sort of shock factor

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>sex podc into a real pop culture podcast that people

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>are talking about, and people are taking it more seriously. Well,

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like people have taken and call her daddy

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>seriously though to begin with, because it was so sex positive.

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I think she has really built herself up to be

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>a huge feminist, is someone that a lot of women

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>can look up to because she is sex positive and

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>she's also speaking to an incredible array of talented women

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>men on important topic.

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing.

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>That's why her fans, who she's dubbed as a daddy gang,

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>that's why they love her for all of those reasons

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that you've mentioned. However, it's really interesting because the Daddy

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>gang is.

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Almost turning on Alex now.

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>And there has been a lot of criticism on the

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>podcast official subreddit page about this interview. So a lot

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>of people said that Alex didn't go hard enough on

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Jamie Lynn. And this follows criticisms of Alex's interview with

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>former US Bachelor Coulton Underwood, who came out as gay.

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>So many fans were angry that call her Daddy would

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>give Coulton a platform after he was accused of stalking

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and harassing his Egges girlfriend Cassie Randolph. And there is

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>this view that since Alex signed on with Spotify for

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the sixty million dollar deal, that she's willing to make

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>trade offs which she previously wouldn't have done in order

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to grow the empire that is called it Daddy. So

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>people feel like normally she wouldn't have spoken to Coulton Underwood,

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>but maybe she had to try and get a big

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>name on to live up to this Spotify deal. See

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I disagree with the criticism over the Coulton Underwood interview.

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that it was fantastic that she spoke to

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>him and gave a perspective of a gay man having

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to live a secret life and the fact that he

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>had so much pressure on him growing up as a

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Christian not to come out. I think there were so

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>many important conversations to be had there there was.

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 2>And she did slam him for his treatment of Cassie.

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>That was evident.

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<v Speaker 1>She did actually go hard on him about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like people just want to go, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>should we let him have a voice.

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<v Speaker 2>You shouldn't let him say what he wants to say

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<v Speaker 2>to be canceled, to be fair as you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when podcasts get larger and you open yourself

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<v Speaker 1>up to new audiences, that's when the criticism does come in.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously people must be sitting at home thinking, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this girl has sixty million dollars in her bank account

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<v Speaker 1>for doing this, So I'm going to be as highly

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<v Speaker 1>critical of her as I can be her. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>backlash did prompt Alex to put out a mini episode

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<v Speaker 1>called Cancel Call Her Daddy, and this is where she

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<v Speaker 1>addressed all of the drama involving the Jamie Lynn interview.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really loved this episode because Alex was so

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<v Speaker 1>open and honest, and it was quite funny because this

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Jamie Lynn it was the first time that

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<v Speaker 1>they included video as well as audio of the interview,

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<v Speaker 1>and she basically said it was just such a headfuck

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<v Speaker 1>to get this video to work because Alex edits all

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<v Speaker 1>of her podcasts herself, so she had to edit the video.

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<v Speaker 1>She basically said, the video kept lagging and when she

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<v Speaker 1>was speaking, the audio wouldn't match ups.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a complete nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>She also revealed that this was the most downloaded episode

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<v Speaker 1>ever of Call Her Daddy, and she said that she

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<v Speaker 1>finds it really funny because so many people slammed her

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<v Speaker 1>for her choice to interview Jamie Lynd Spears. But everybody

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<v Speaker 1>clearly listened.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's when the criticism comes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's people who have never listened to the podcast before

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<v Speaker 1>are only listening because they've heard about it in the

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<v Speaker 1>media and they just think, Oh, I'm going to pile

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<v Speaker 1>on and say something negative.

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<v Speaker 2>Well let's go to alexiscrab.

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<v Speaker 4>Thought it was funny when people like cancel Call Her Daddy,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, yes, Caller Daddy is canceled. Boop okay

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<v Speaker 4>uploading Part two See Fuckers next Wednesday. You know, media

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<v Speaker 4>these days, it's always like, don't give people a platforms,

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<v Speaker 4>Silence them, silence them. No, if I think someone has

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<v Speaker 4>a story that can be interesting and entertaining to be told,

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<v Speaker 4>even if it's controversial, even if you if it makes

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<v Speaker 4>you feel uneasy, that is the beauty of media. We

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<v Speaker 4>can give people the opportunity to speak and you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have to agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this interview has spark debate about whether Caller Daddy

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<v Speaker 1>is in fact a feminist podcast, because when Caller Daddy

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<v Speaker 1>first came out, many detractors said the podcast prioritize male

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure and promoted patriarchal beauty standards and also objectified women. However,

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<v Speaker 1>fans argued that the show has empowered.

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<v Speaker 2>So many women in the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's pretty obvious when you do look at the

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<v Speaker 1>new era of Caller Daddy on Spotify that it has

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<v Speaker 1>been marketed as a podcast for women to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to explore their sexuality relationships as well as their mental

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<v Speaker 1>health and following the move, many critics have said that

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<v Speaker 1>Alex has utilized the press coverage of the sixty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar Spotify deal to appear as a feminist. So she

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<v Speaker 1>spoke a lot about her triumphed over a male dominated

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<v Speaker 1>industry to be able to get to the point of

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<v Speaker 1>having a sixty million dollar podcast. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting concept that as a feminist you can only

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<v Speaker 1>interview other feminists or other people who share your exact

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<v Speaker 1>point of view, because isn't the point of interviewing people

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<v Speaker 1>to explore other people's opinions. And yes, I understand the

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<v Speaker 1>argument about platforming someone and giving some I'm on a

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<v Speaker 1>huge platform to speak on. However, I think that Alex

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<v Speaker 1>questioned Jamie Lynn in parts she needed to be questioning,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not all black and white. It kind of

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<v Speaker 1>annoys me that people are saying, oh, well, Alex can't

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<v Speaker 1>interview Jamie Lynn because she's a feminist. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like weaponizing her being a feminist. It's sort of saying like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you stand for this, you can't stand for that.

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<v Speaker 2>But as a.

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<v Speaker 1>Journalist, I've interviewed countless people for stories that I dislike

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't agree with what they're saying. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that I then agree with their point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I read this really interesting article and it

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<v Speaker 1>said that perhaps a better term for Alex Cooper is

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<v Speaker 1>actually girl boss, which I know you don't like this term, Sophie.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really like it either, but they're saying that

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of a girl boss is a woman who,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than liberating herself from the capitalist patriarchy, decides to

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<v Speaker 1>sit a top of it, and I feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a good definition of Alex Cooper. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's all we've got time for. Thank you

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