1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: A little earlier this morning, I was arriving at work 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: and well, a lovely lady who oftened is here at 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: the radio station, who plenty of you will know, was 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: here and she'd been doing some stuff with our breakfast cruise. Now, 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: her name's Katie Kirk. I know plenty of you know Katie. 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: She's a long term territorium but unfortunately has been impacted 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: by an incredibly frightening incident over the weekend. Good morning 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: to you, Katie. 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Our good morning Katie, the two Katie. So we have double. 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: Trouble, double travel, all right, Katie Square. Now unfortunately you're 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: joining me this morning because well it's a pretty frightening story. Actually, 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: you told me about it while we're in the car 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: park together today. Just talk our listeners through what happened 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: on the weekend. 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: Well, funnily enough, my heart's already beating just talking about it. 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: My heart rates gone real, Ruth. So it was Saturday 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: evening and I was at home watching Emily in Paris, 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: actually really enjoying the movie. I had my front doors, 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: my front glass sliding doors locked. I've got another set 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: of glass sliding doors that go out to a front 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: pool area which is fully fenced and pad locked, and 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: that door, that sliding door was open because I had 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: my dog there. I was just sitting in the lounge room. 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: I can see the door, and I leave that door 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: open so Sammy can go in and out to the 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: garden to do a wee and that type of thing. Anyway, 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: I just looked thought, I sort of looked at how 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: much movie time was left, and I went, I might 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: go on put the air co on on and get 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: the just cool the bedroom down, because I'll go to 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: bed shortly. I actually went to the bathroom and took 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: off my I was wearing pants like trouser pants, and 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: then put Sammy to bed, et cetera, and then went 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: to sit down to watch the rest of the last 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: ten minutes of the movie. And as I sat down, 36 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: my phone pinned and it was my video security camera 37 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: from the driveway, giving me an alert there was a 38 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: human there. So I looked at my phone and there 39 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: was a person up my driveway. So I quickly ran 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: to the bathroom to put my pants back on. I 41 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: don't want to walk around in just nickers and a singer. 42 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: And I don't know why I did what I did 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: or why I went straight to the back of the 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: front sliding door, which is over the pool. I just 45 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: automatically went to that door. And I don't know whether 46 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: I was wanting to go out to the garden to 47 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: see if I could see somebody, or remembering that it 48 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: sort of wasn't locked. So I got to the door, 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: and there was a man standing right there on the 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: step about to step inside. And as I got like 51 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 2: a foot away from the door, he lifted a machete 52 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: over his head like he had it already over his head, 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: but his elbows went back, so he already had it 54 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: there ready. And then as soon as he saw me, 55 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: I could see him sort of heaving his elbows backwards 56 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: as if to yes, swing the machete down on my head. 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, horrific. 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: And I just I'm quite grateful that I had a 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: fight response, not a slight response. I think some people 60 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: in that circumstance would, you know, either, I don't know, 61 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: go silent, freak out, step back. But I actually sort 62 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: of moved even closer to the door, and and I 63 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: just screamed like more of a guttural howl, sort of 64 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: like basically, and he sort of then leant back and 65 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: that gave me the opportunity to slam the glass door 66 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: shut and lock it. But it was horrific. 67 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: Then was just screaming, not a high pitched scream, a 69 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: very deep scream. And I was screaming out for my 70 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: neighbor Mel And then I called police, the Triple zero, 71 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: but I couldn't talk, Katie. Police were asking me questions 72 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: and I couldn't put two words together. 73 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. You literally had somebody holding a machete at. 74 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: You, over my head, at me. 75 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's utterly horrifying. Cannie, tell me in terms 76 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: of the response. Then what like, what happened next? Did 77 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: he run away? Well? I don't. 78 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: I couldn't then see him because it was dark and 79 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: i'd moved back from the door. But I do know 80 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: what happened next because three of my neighbors, thank goodness, 81 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: heard me, and one neighbor. Two of them came up 82 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: the driveway. I was still on the phone to police, 83 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: and I just shoved the phone at my neighbor John 84 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: because I couldn't speak. But my neighbor across the road 85 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: when she first heard me scream, she actually died police 86 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: straight away because she rode from each other for fifteen 87 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: years or something. She'd never heard anything like it, and 88 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: she knew that I was in trouble. And then she 89 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: as she was on the phone to police, she came 90 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: out to her front garden and she saw this young 91 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: man jumping over my front fence from inside to outside. 92 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: So that's a fully now that's a high pool fence, 93 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: and he just jumped over it. And then my other 94 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: neighbor could was alerted because he heard the person running. 95 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: And I know that the person in the driveway was 96 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: not the same man. Young man at my door. 97 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: So there's two of them. 98 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: So there was a young girl. So the young girl 99 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: must have been up my driveway scoping to inform I 100 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: guess to check the gate, the pool gate, which was padlocked, 101 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: and or to see if the door was open. And 102 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: then yeah, then the next minute there's this young man 103 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: who had obviously jumped the fence to get into the 104 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: pool area and then jumped fence to get out. 105 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: Katie, Is that is terrifying? 106 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was terrifying. 107 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: You know, And and it's lucky that your body went 108 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: into to fight mode and you screamed at him the 109 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: way that you did, or goodness knows what could have happened. 110 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: And I've tried, I've been trying really hard not to 111 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: do the whole what if because my immediate thought was, 112 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: you know, imagine if he got inside and I don't know, 113 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: rap me or I'd rather be sliced on the head 114 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: with a machete than the former option. But it's and 115 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: I thought once my neighbors had they offered to stay over, 116 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, no, no, it's okay. But I 117 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: then I know, at three o'clock in the morning, I 118 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: rang my Si crust couldn't sleep. I rang my sister 119 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: at three o'clock in the morning, and I don't know, 120 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: she must have broken every speed limit to get there. 121 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, she's coming and came and stayed with me 122 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: that night. 123 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: Just yeah, look, I can't begin to imagine how frightened 124 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: you must have felt. Katie. Do you mind me asking 125 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: what suburb you live in? 126 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: I actually live in Milner. Yeah, that's Suburbs. 127 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the northern suburbs. You know my instant reaction 128 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: whenever I hear and unfortunately I've heard so many horrible, 129 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: horrible stories. But I am I am so sorry that 130 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: that happened. To you, and you know, when I saw 131 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: you this morning, my reaction was to give you a hug. 132 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: Like I I can't believe that that happened to you 133 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: over the course of the weekend, and that this is 134 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: something that we're talking about happening in Darwin. 135 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: I know, and it's just sounds crazy, but I prefer 136 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: I don't want it to happen to anyone. But if 137 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: it was, I'm glad it happened to me, as opposed 138 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: to I know a lady who lives near me, and 139 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: if that had happened to her, I think she would 140 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: have collapsed and not you know, had that reaction that 141 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: I had. But you know, I think that of if 142 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: my mom was here visiting, and if that had been 143 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: my mom, like you often think about that, or what 144 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: if that was you know, a young teenage girl at 145 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: the door. 146 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: That's the thing. It shouldn't happen to anyone, right, it 147 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: should not happen to anyone. And this is where everybody's 148 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: had a gutfull of this, you know, of of the 149 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: response that we're hearing, and of the you know, of 150 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: changing this or changing that will not make a difference. 151 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: I don't know whether it'll make a difference. But we've 152 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: got to try something, right, We've got to try something 153 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: to have an impact on the crime and the level 154 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: of crime that we're experiencing and the level of violence 155 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: that it's escalated to, because that's a big thing. Having 156 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: a bit shetty held over your head is next level. 157 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: And I hate to say it, but even I mean, 158 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: the police were fantastic, but even when you know, it's like, 159 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: you know, do you want to make a statement, do 160 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 2: you want to make victims of crime? So I just 161 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: looked at them and said, what's the point. That's how 162 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: That's how I felt. 163 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: And in feeling like that, yep. 164 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: And when I was telling my daughter Stevie about it 165 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: on the Sunday, I go over a call. I don't 166 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: want to frighten her, but yes, and I gave her 167 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: it a call to let her know and she just said, Mum, 168 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: when are you leaving Darlin? You know, And it's the 169 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: level of this tie, you know, the violence that we 170 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: do see and now like an experience like this and 171 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: there are you I just go, well, you know, I 172 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: don't want to be living here in another few years. 173 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: If if it's. 174 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: What's happening on my doorstep or in our community to 175 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: this extent. 176 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, and again you're not alone in feeling like that. 177 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: People We I just want to be safe, and that's 178 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think that fundamentally, we can talk about 179 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: all these different things and how we can get the 180 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: economy going and all that stuff, and all of that 181 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: stuff matters, and it's going to matter for whoever forms 182 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: government over the weekend or however that government looks over 183 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: the weekend. But fundamentally, what territorians want, whether you know, 184 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: whether you're a woman who's in what air, who's had 185 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: their house burnt to the ground that we'd heard about 186 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: earlier in the year, whether you are a you know, 187 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: somebody going to the shops to do your grocery shopping, 188 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: whether you're at home in your laundroom like you are. Fundamentally, 189 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: all we want is to be safe. 190 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: And it's really interesting too, Like I've had a couple 191 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: of people say, you know, why wasn't your front gate 192 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: pad locked? And it's I said to one of my 193 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: best friends. It's gotten to the point, I've got a 194 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: block in each sliding door, I've got the back doors deadlocked. 195 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: Now f I had padlocked my front gate, like the 196 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: side gates padlock, but it's the front gates padlocked. If 197 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: he'd have gotten in and I had then managed to 198 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: run out the front door and the front gate is padlocked, 199 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: I've got no escape. 200 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: Yep. 201 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: And that, to me is even more frightening than going, well, 202 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: you know what, No, I'm leaving my front gate open 203 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: because at least it gives me an exit. And what's 204 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: the point of me having the front gate locked when 205 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: he jumps fence twice? 206 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: Anyway, That's exactly right, exactly right. 207 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: Helpless nightness of what well, I don't know what else 208 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, to keep my property safe so that 209 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: it keeps me safe. 210 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. Oh, Katie, I'm so sorry that 211 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: this happened to you, and you know, I'd rather be 212 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: talking to you about other more positive stuff, but unfortunately 213 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: this is you know, this is the way that things 214 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: are at this point in time. But I appreciate you 215 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: speaking to me because I you know, I said this 216 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: a little while back when Leah Bennett, who works at Stompshoes, 217 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: had spoken to me after a terrible incident that she 218 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: had been victim to. I think people have got to 219 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: be brave enough to speak out and you know, to 220 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: let others know what's going on. We actually have to 221 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: be brave enough to be able to tell our stories. 222 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. When you asked me this morning, and I was 223 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: a bit hevidant because I don't want other people to 224 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: be frightened. But as you say, it's about awareness, and 225 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 2: we do need to talk about these things that are 226 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: happening and also keep an eye out for each other. 227 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 228 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: I am so grateful within three minutes of me initially 229 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: screaming that I've got three neighbors up my driveway. Yeah, 230 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: you so, and I do know. One of the police 231 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: officers said that I'm lucky that neighbors responded to me screaming, 232 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: and that there are some places where neighbors don't respond 233 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: to someone screaming. Yeah, and that's unawareness as well, isn't. 234 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: That That's you know, that's right, I reckon. That's the 235 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: take home today as well, is that we do need 236 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: to keep an eye out for each other, especially in 237 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: our homes. You know, if you if you hear something 238 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't sound right next door, make sure you do 239 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: go and check on your neighbor. 240 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, I think that's the key. If there's 241 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: a positive outcome from this is helping some more awareness 242 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: around that because we don't you hear a different noise 243 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: and instead of just brushing it off and thinking, oh, 244 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: that's got nothing to do with me, actually just take 245 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: a moment to going to check in. 246 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, spot on, Katie. Thank you so much for speaking 247 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: to me this morning. I really appreciate it. And look 248 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: after yourself. Look, I'm already getting messages coming through, you know, 249 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: saying thank you, thank you so much for sharing your story, Katie. Oh, 250 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: definitely make sure that we're more aware. My own personal 251 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: phone is going off with people messaging through so and 252 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: then our text line is exactly the same. So thank 253 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: you so much for having a chat with me today. 254 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: Part is now the hypervigilance at home what I'm looking 255 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: outside constantly, But you know that's trucial pass But thank 256 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: you Katie, and thank you for the people who have 257 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: been messaging as well. 258 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Thanks so much. We'll talk to you soon. 259 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: Good on you. Thanks Katie, look after yourself.