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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation. How are you look. I am

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Speaker 1: ripping just being here with you. It's like dream come true.

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Speaker 1: We get about like being a World Cup winner and

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Speaker 1: gold medal lesl all that sort of show. Sitting in

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Speaker 1: Amanda Keller's chair looking across the studio at you. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's nice, great blush thanks. You know what I did laugh?

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Speaker 1: I was listening to that was one of my old

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Speaker 1: coaches there talking, Joyce Brown, the legendary Joyce Brown. She

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Speaker 1: talked about me being courageous and determined. She didn't really

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Speaker 1: ever say she was one of the most skillful players,

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Speaker 1: Like I was a past who showed up time and

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Speaker 1: time again and wouldn't give up, and that's probably why

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Speaker 1: I'm here this morning. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Good No. I used to play drums in a band

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Speaker 2: with my brother and I was the worst drummer in

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Speaker 2: the history of the world. But my brother used to

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Speaker 2: say to me, he said, you just you're just so enthusiastic,

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Speaker 2: you can't keep time, and you're dreadful talking about you

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Speaker 2: were a fantastic netballer.

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Speaker 1: Look, I was okay in my day, but I always

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Speaker 1: and I say this to my kids, like skill won't

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Speaker 1: get you everywhere. There's a lot of skillful players who

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Speaker 1: fall by the wayside. Turning up to training on time,

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Speaker 1: being grateful for the opportunities that you get, and putting

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Speaker 1: in more hard work than any else. It's a bit boring,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. It's not like there's this magic formula to success. Nah,

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Speaker 1: just turn up to training and do the work.

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Speaker 2: It's true. Consistency is boring, so boring, But there's so

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Speaker 2: many people consistent people that and it could be anything parenting.

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Speaker 2: Everyone talks about what makes a great dad or a mum.

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Speaker 2: It's just been there, just showing up.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was feeding them, but it turns out

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Speaker 1: it's just showing.

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Speaker 2: If you shot up with food.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you either win your Dad of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Netball this year is not in the Olympic Games, is it?

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Speaker 1: No? And I love the Olympics and I've been glued

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Speaker 1: to my television till all hours. But every four years

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Speaker 1: I had the same conversations with people, Why is it

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Speaker 1: netball in the Olympics. It was in there, never been

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Speaker 1: in the Olympics. No, And I think everyone just assumes

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Speaker 1: it because it's you know, it's the most popular sport

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Speaker 1: in Australia. It's the most played team sport for women

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Speaker 1: and girls in Australia. We've got this great Sun Corps

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Speaker 1: Super Netball League that you know, is on television. You

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Speaker 1: can watch it. Ten thousand people turn up at ken

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Speaker 1: Rosewell Arena in Olympic Park to watch the Swifts and

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Speaker 1: the Giants play. Yet we're not in the biggest game

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Speaker 1: in the world in the Olympics. And it's a bit

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Speaker 1: of a historical thing. So netball is a very British,

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Speaker 1: or was a very British game, and the Olympics were

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Speaker 1: a very European, a euro sort of centric thing when

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Speaker 1: they were started by Pierre de Cubertan, and netball just

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Speaker 1: wasn't on his agenda. And also it was a women's game, right,

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Speaker 1: and women didn't even get into the first few editions

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Speaker 1: women to get anywhere near being represented in a meaningful

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Speaker 1: way at the Olympics, you know. And this is the

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Speaker 1: first Olympics in Paris where the gender split with participants

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Speaker 1: is equal, and so they're really touting it as a

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Speaker 1: quality gains, which is fantastic. There is a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a gender gap that I am worried about though

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Speaker 1: with the Olympics, and it's really about the fact that Australians,

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Speaker 1: the female athletes make up fifty five percent of the medals,

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Speaker 1: fifty five percent of the team for Australia, but they're

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Speaker 1: winning one hundred percent of the gold medals at the moment,

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Speaker 1: So really worried about our men.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, Kyle Charmers, I know, with that Chinese guy,

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Speaker 2: that was unprecedented. They've seen that he beat by a

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, isn't it. And don't you when you hear

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Speaker 1: all the interviews with the athletes and the swimmers that

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Speaker 1: like and Kyle afterwards and the swimmer who won the

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Speaker 1: bronze medal, you try and read between the lines, You like,

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Speaker 1: what are they not saying that they really want to say?

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Speaker 1: It becomes a bit of a game, particularly with the

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Speaker 1: Chinese swimmers. I mean, the Chinese swimmers are the most

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Speaker 1: tested of all the swimmers in terms of drug testing

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Speaker 1: at the moment, so you know, you can the swimmers

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Speaker 1: Watching that?

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Speaker 2: That's why I've insisted on drug testing you this morning.

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Speaker 1: I've eaten my cup before I got in here. I

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Speaker 1: bought my own I bought my own beaker. But the

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Speaker 1: thing with drug testing, when you do it is that

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Speaker 1: someone has to watch. So who's volunteering, who's going to

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Speaker 1: do that?

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