1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: On today's show, former Maths contestant seb Gilhouse charged with 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: drug trafficking, Kurtills's sponsorship fail I, Sue Roos, stock photo, 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Mishap and the Logi's revival. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torba, and over the weekend, 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: I think I've hit rock bottom in terms of my 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: search for a house. I am in full desperation mode. 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Anything looks good at the moment. I'm not really surprised 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: by that, especially because of the house that you recently 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: took us all to have a serious look at. Like, 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: I was shocked we put an offer on this house. 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Ye this, I was shocked it was even a contender. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Can I just set the scene for the listeners. So 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: so from Brandon said, oh my god, we want you 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: to come and look at this house. We are originally 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: put in an offer which they didn't accept, but now 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: they've got back in touch with us and are now 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: considering our offer. So we all rock up really excited 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: to see this house. Now. The first thing that hit 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: me was the smell. I did warn you guys of 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: the smell. I did suggest bringing a peg because it 22 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: absolutely reeks. So there is a older woman who's been 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: living there for about thirty years, and she is obsessed 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: with German shepherds and you can just smell them, like 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: their SCENTI is in the walls and in the carpet, 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: it's everywhere. They desperately needed a glasshouse candle. I mean 27 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: at every inspection you normally see one burning awesome incense. 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: There was no candle. There were no fucks given at 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: this house. The first time I looked at it, there 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: was a room with just stuff chucked in it, like 31 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: a dumping room. And apparently this woman is a hoarder. 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: So they actually had cleaned up the house for this inspection, 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: so that was their level of clean I was just 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: impressed with the amount of German shepherd paraphernalia around the house. 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: Not only were their statues everywhere, there was a tombstone 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: for one of her former German shepherds. I did suggest 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: that maybe you could replace the paraphernalia with cocker spaniel. Yeah, well, 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: that's the thing. I had a bit of a soft 39 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: spot for this woman because she did have like massive 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: pictures on the wall of her dog, and I thought 41 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: maybe we were on the same fite to be fair 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: about this house. The first time I looked at it 43 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: seriously was when it was rainy and dark, and I 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: didn't quite see how many let's say, imperfections that this 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: house had. It was literally a death trap in the 46 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: yard because I couldn't get out to the yard on 47 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: that rainy day. And I don't know what I'm gonna 48 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: do because this is in my price range. I feel 49 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: like when you are looking for a house, especially in 50 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: this current climate, you do get a bit desperately drop 51 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: your standards. 52 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 53 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: I remember when Dale and I were looking our rock 54 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: Bottom was probably going to a house where it was 55 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: clear the renters had gone like fuck you to the owner. 56 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: They're just going to stay in their rooms while the 57 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: inspection goes on. So we walk into one room and 58 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: I'd been filming everything and there's just a man sitting 59 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: on his bed just smiling at me. I was like, okay. 60 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Then we walked into another room and there were three 61 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: men each sitting around with a bottle of coke, and 62 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: I just thought, what is coca cola? I assume, yes, 63 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: a bottle of Coca cola. I'd hate to see what 64 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: things are like in Sydney and Melbourne. If this is 65 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: how it is in Adelaide, well, there's this a TikTok 66 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: page where this guy he shares all of the really 67 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: bad rentals and also the houses that are on the 68 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: market at the moment. And someone was trying to rent 69 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: out their shed that had literally no exhaust fans. I 70 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: think the toilet was right next to the kitchen, so 71 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: it could actually be worse. 72 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: Now, I don't want this to feel like a sponsored advertisement. 73 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: We house of Grom's genuinely used bibuck. 74 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: Kurt Tills's recent sponsored video with online marketplace Fiver is 75 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: causing confusion. The husband of wellness influencer Sarah's Day really 76 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have a great track record when it comes to 77 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: sponsorship deals. Last year, we discussed how he received a 78 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: lot of criticism for promoting a wine fridge, despite the 79 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: fact that he doesn't really drink. In the post, it 80 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: showed Kurt Tills sitting back enjoying a glass of red 81 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: in his lounge room with the wine fridge plonked in 82 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: the kitchen. It's funny because I've never seen it since 83 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: in their kitchen. No, it did not last long, and 84 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: it's not surprising because I mean, having a look at it, 85 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: it's a chunky black fridge. It really doesn't fit in 86 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: with Sarah's day coastal esthetic. Now, for those who don't 87 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: know Kurt, he is a videographer and he owns a 88 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: content creation agency with Sarah called House of Groms. And 89 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: he recently switched over his personal YouTube account to a 90 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: business one. So House of Groms now has sixty six 91 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: thousand subscribers, and he's trying to have a bit more 92 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: of a presence on YouTube for being a videographer. So 93 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: he's been sharing a lot of video tips as well 94 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: as promotion for his studio. But it's his recent sponsored 95 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 1: video for Fiver that's caught our attention. So for some background, 96 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: fiver is an online marketplace for freelance services, so it 97 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: connects freelancers to people or businesses looking to hire, and 98 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: it deals mostly with creatives like videographers, graphic designers, voiceover artists, 99 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: and marketing professionals. Now, this is not sponsored by five here, 100 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: we are just outlining what the product is. Now on 101 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: the surface, it seems like this would be quite a 102 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: good brand alignment for Kurt and also for Fiver. So 103 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: Fiver paid Kurt to create a video promoting its services. However, 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: this is where things really took a turn and left 105 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: me feeling quite confused. So Kurt started the video with 106 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: a piece to camera in his gearroom, ironically telling the 107 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: audience to stop buying camera equipment. Here's what he. 108 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: Said, stop buying equipment. I should probably take my own 109 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 2: advice right now, because we are literally filming this video 110 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: in the gear room that's full of equipment. But I 111 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: have a point to this. We as creators have this 112 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: issue that we always feel the need to have the 113 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: latest and greatest camera or lighting to be able to 114 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: bring some sort of creative vision to life. 115 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: Why choose to make this statement when you are literally 116 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: sitting in a gear room surrounded by camera equipment there's 117 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: probably worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Well, look how 118 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: you keep saying gearroom. It sounds like a drug room. 119 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: Well that's what he called it. When I first saw 120 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: the video, I actually thought that Kurt had maybe been 121 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: given the challenge to actually film something on his phone. Yeah, 122 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: I thought that too, especially because he explained that Fiver 123 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: had asked him to prove this point and challenged him 124 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: to create a piece of content without touching any of 125 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: his equipment. So the premise is that he has to 126 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: use Fiver to track down a freelance videographer to create 127 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: his video. Well, this is where things got a little 128 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: bit weird because as part of the ad, Kirk gave 129 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: his followers a run through on how to use Fiver. 130 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: Here's what he said. 131 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: Now, there's just so many people on this program like 132 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: you can literally get. It gets me excited with like 133 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: the amount of possibilities and access you have to people's 134 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: skill sets on here. 135 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: Now, despite being really excited by all of the new 136 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: people on the platform and all of the limitless possibilities, 137 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: he decided to select a videographer on Fiver who just 138 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: so happens to already be on the payroll for his business, 139 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: House of Groms. Here's what he said. 140 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: Now, this next guy, Carlin, I actually stumbled across him 141 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: on Fiver. Now he's a friend of mine. So I 142 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: stumbled across him on Fiver and then I called him 143 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: and I said, bro, so I didn't know you're on Fiver. 144 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: I'm doing a video for fiver and where I'm creating 145 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: a commercial, but not actually touching my equipment? Would you 146 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: be interested in participating in this? And he was very keen. 147 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: So I've sent him a message. I have told him 148 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: about the commercial. I have sent him the script. We're 149 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: gonna use Carlin for this one. 150 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but this moment here solidified for me how 151 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: dumb Kurt thinks his audience is. Because Carlin may sound familiar, 152 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: he is the guy that won Angie Kent season of 153 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, and he is also a very close friend 154 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: of Sarah and kurtz Now. He works for House of Groms, 155 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: as Kurt outlined. He even featured in a recent video 156 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: on House of Grom's YouTube showing different modeling poses. Kurt 157 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: did clear up, though, that he doesn't actually work day 158 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: to day at House of Grom's. He is a contractor, 159 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: so sometimes I'll have him on big shoots. I've seen 160 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: videos that Kurt has shared previously at the snow Carlin 161 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: was on that job. And this is where the whole 162 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: concept of this video dies for me, because the video 163 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: is supposed to showcase how you can simply use a 164 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: search engine to find new videographers that you can trust, 165 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: and it's quite clear that Kurt doesn't trust the brand 166 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: enough to use one of their videographers. He then has 167 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: to use someone he already has a relationship with and 168 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: works with. And it was sort of like word vomit 169 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: for Kurt in this video because he even highlighted the 170 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: fact that Carlin hasn't been on the platform for long. 171 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: Here's what he said, now, he hasn't been on Fiver 172 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: for a huge amount of time, but I've we work 173 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: with him here at Hassegrom's like, he's one of our 174 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: freelances that we work with anyway. So this is working 175 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: out very well. 176 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: No shit, He clearly made his profile for this ad. 177 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: It's just so transparent. I found it odd because Kurt 178 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: made a big deal about how much the other videographers 179 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: on Fiver were charging, but then when it came to Carlin, 180 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: he didn't specifically say, oh, this is what is hourly rape. 181 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: Of course he doesn't because he doesn't want to look 182 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: like he's just slapping on an excess for all of 183 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: his clients. And that's what I don't understand, because isn't 184 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: this program or platform Fiver. Isn't it actually shooting Kurt's 185 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: business in the foot, Because the whole concept is very 186 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: detrimental to the brand because instead of going to a 187 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: creative agency who has a connection with other videographers, wouldn't 188 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: you just find someone who could do it on the 189 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: cheap on Fiver? And especially now if he's saying that 190 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: he legitimately uses Fiver, is quite clear that he then 191 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: just slaps on his excess fee and you're being charged 192 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: a factunt he's not using Fiver. Well, he did tell 193 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: well in the video he did say, look, I know 194 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: this is sponsored, but I genuinely want you to know 195 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: that we use this platform regularly. I think he might 196 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: use it in terms of getting a voiceover artist or 197 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,239 Speaker 1: maybe even getting someone to edit. But I do genuinely 198 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: think they shoot all of the stuff themselves, and that's 199 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: why they've used Carlin. I mean it became clearer as 200 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: the ad went on because the ad was all about 201 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: Kurt's grandfather's watch. So he's not going to send that 202 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: to some random is he? Well, it makes it easier 203 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: for them because it's just this local guy who can 204 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: come and film it. Kurt can be in charge and 205 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: in control of it. But again that's not what the 206 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: platform is about. Well, for Fiver, I think this is 207 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: a huge win, But for Kurt as a business owner, 208 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it was a great deal to it. 209 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: Except don't think it is a win for Fiver, because 210 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: he's pretty much showing that he doesn't trust the platform 211 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: to choose someone who shares their services legitimately on there. 212 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: I would love to know how much money they paid 213 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: for him to essentially show his clients how to find 214 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: a cheaper videographer elsewhere. I have had enough with people 215 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: trying to hold me accountable and people online accountable for 216 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 1: the mistakes that we make. Sophie Kesha's makeup line Assuru, 217 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: has been caught out using stock images to promote its products. 218 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: Influencer Watchdog account influencer t Oz broke the story, also 219 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: revealing Asuru used the work of a shocked South African 220 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: makeup artist, Amy can you tell us more so? The 221 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: makeup artist known as Tash Pops on social media, took 222 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: to her Instagram stories to share her horror at finding 223 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: her image and work on the makeup page. She wrote, 224 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: to find out, my image is being used without my 225 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: knowledge and products are being tagged that I never used. 226 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: She then tagged Azuru and wrote care to explain how 227 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: this image landed? On your feed. So Azua responded in 228 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: her DMS and said, Hey, Tash, image has been removed. 229 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: Our apologies. We had a social media bank of images 230 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: from our former media girl. My sincere apologies. I should 231 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: have most definitely checked into this before posting, and now 232 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: we'll review all content that has been posted a zuru. 233 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: I need to add there were so many grammatical errors 234 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: and spelling errors riddled throughout this DM that Tash received. 235 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Away from the grammatical errors, I just can't believe that 236 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: they're trying to blame some social media girl and put 237 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: it all on her. Why would you ever be taking 238 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: stock images from other people's work, from products that aren't 239 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: even your own, to promote your makeup brand. I don't 240 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: care if this girl was in charge of seeking out 241 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: the stock images. Surely as a business, you would be 242 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: only using photos professionally shot photos of your own product. 243 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: What's so insulting as well? To referred to has this 244 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: social media girl? It seemed to be degrading, Like you 245 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: don't hear people saying, oh media boy. I didn't find 246 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: it degrading. I just think it was a way to 247 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: blame someone and sort of put them below them. Well, 248 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: what's interesting is apparently the former social media manager is 249 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: actually Sophicacia's sister in law. So fancy being thrown under 250 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: the bus like that, well, former sister in law. She 251 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm assuming she still has a great relationship with her 252 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: former sister in law too, because obviously she's very close 253 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: to Jared. I just love the fact that they've taken 254 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: no responsibility though they've just handbolled it off and got 255 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: oh no, it's our social media girl. I'm surprised they 256 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: actually responded at all and didn't just block and remove 257 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: all of the images. What's interesting is that before this 258 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: post went viral, A zero had two hundred and ten 259 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: posts on their Instagram, and when this was made public, 260 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: suddenly they only have ninety five photos, so you'd assume 261 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: they've gone and done a big cull. Wow. That is terrible. 262 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: I do feel for the junior employee, especially who is 263 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: being blamed, because, as someone who has worked at a 264 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: boutique PR agency that specialized really in female led businesses, 265 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: whether they were makeup or clothes or whatever it may be, 266 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: we used to give a lot of the interns jobs 267 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: like that to do. So this is a an old 268 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: PIPI agents that would never do it, and I always 269 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: really felt for the UNI students because they would just 270 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: kind of, oh, yeah, do this, go and find some pictures. 271 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean that seems like maybe this is what's happened here. 272 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: But that being said, that was almost ten years ago, 273 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: and I think now everyone is a lot more savvy 274 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: on social media and knows that it's fraudulent or can 275 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: be fraudulent to steal other people's work and pretend that 276 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: your products are being used in that makeup result. I 277 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: think there's a big difference between sharing inspo photos. For example. 278 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I saw a Zuru shared a photo of 279 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian wearing blue eyeshadow and they wrote, what a 280 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: vibe like Kim in blue? That's very different to actually 281 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: sharing a photo and claiming that your makeup has been 282 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: used in it. Yeah. I think that businesses who do 283 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: this can fall into the category of false advertising. Definitely. 284 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: It's surprising though, because Sophie Keisha is always doing photo 285 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: shoots for her pajama line, so why not do a 286 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: few more for Azuru. I think it's because it's pretty 287 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: clear that there's not enough money coming in to facilitate 288 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: big scale photo shoots like this, so it'll be interesting 289 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: to see what the future holds for this makeup line. 290 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm planning my birthday party shash farewell party, and I'm 291 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: so excited because Mcopter doing my part. Bags. 292 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: Roxy de Senko's millionaire daughter Pixie Curtis is generating headlines 293 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: for throwing herself an extravagant twelfth birthday party. So if 294 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: last year she spent forty thousand dollars in a nightclub 295 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: themed what did she do this year? Well, this year, 296 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Pixy's birthday party also doubled as a farewell because she 297 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: is moving to Singapore with her famous family, so she 298 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: opted for a Singaporean and Hutch theme. So guests were 299 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: asked to wear white or red to represent the Singaporean flag. Now. 300 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: Roxytold news dot com that the theme wasn't something trivial 301 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: like Barbie. That's a bit of a burn for Kate, 302 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: who did her Hen's party a Barbie theme last year. 303 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: Roxy also said that Pixie wanted to share a little 304 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: bit of her new life with her friends, many of 305 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: which have been by her side since KINDI now the 306 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: cost of this party isn't clear. Last year, as you 307 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: touched on Amy. The media reported that her eleventh birthday 308 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: set her back forty thousand dollars. By the looks of 309 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: this party, it would be more because no expense was spared. Yes, 310 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: there was definitely no expense spared, Sophy. So the party 311 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: was held in Sydney's Eastern Suburbs at Maytio, which is 312 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: a very swanky restaurant. The private room was decked out 313 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: with red flowers and palm leaves everywhere, and it all 314 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: had red lighting, which gave off a bit of a 315 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: nightclub peel. There were also giant block letters that spelled 316 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: out Pixie's name, goodie bags of course left on the table, 317 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: and Singaporean dancers, and of course there was a red 318 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: carpet for Pixie and her guests to walk along as 319 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: you do. Pixie also had a professional videographer filming the night, 320 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: and in the video we see Pixie arriving in a 321 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: black Mercedes van with a ton of flashing cameras. This 322 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: was so awkward. I was skeptical, thinking maybe they'd set 323 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: up some parents to wait whilst the kids walked in 324 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: and snap their photos make them feel special. In reality, 325 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: there were actual paparazzi. There is that a bit gross 326 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: to have all these you know, photographers. I mean normally 327 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: when you think of paparazzi, you think of middle aged 328 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: men snuffy photos of twelve year olds. It's it's a 329 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: bit weird. It was very gross. Now, the luxury dinner 330 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: was followed by a sleepover, or as Roxy described it 331 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: as stay cae with all of Pixy's closest friends at 332 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: Sydney's five star Crown Hotel. I've cracked. Is that what 333 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: they call them? 334 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: Now? 335 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: They're not like, I'm just going over for a sleepover. 336 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm going over for a stay cake. To be fair, 337 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: I mean, a sleepover is when you stay in your 338 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: childhood bedroom. Bisically was a stay cake because it was 339 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: in this luxurious hotel. Now, if you're thinking it might 340 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: have been you know, one or two of her closest 341 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: friends who stayed, you're wrong. It was, in fact, all 342 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: twenty seven classmates who took over the whole floor. I 343 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: hope it was the whole twenty seven classmates, because can 344 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: you imagine if you were in her class and you 345 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: didn't get invited. Yeah, the fucking paparazzi there. Like, you're 346 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: finding out pretty quickly that you've not been invited to 347 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: this and all of the kids. I saw this one 348 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: photo where Pixie was standing in front of her sort 349 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: of media wall with her cake and everything, and they 350 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: were like, all these kids with phone snapping photo. It 351 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: would have just been completely in your face now. On 352 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: each bed, guests also received a goodie bag from mc Beauty, 353 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: Mecha Naked Sunday, and Doughnut Time. I just couldn't even 354 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: imagine being this young and getting to experience that, Like, 355 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: I mean, imagine the expectations of the birthday parties. Oh yeah, 356 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: but these kids are probably from what Sydney's want. Of 357 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: Sydney's most exclusive schools, this is probably just their average 358 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: backyard party. Maybe forget McDonald's parties, it's just all five star. 359 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: It's quite clear that Pixie and her friends are desperate 360 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: to grow up and they're really emulating what twenty something 361 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: influencers and celebrities do. And it did make me laugh 362 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: hearing what was on the menu. So Roxy has a 363 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: bit of a habit lately of sharing text message exchanges 364 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: between her and Pixie, and in this particular exchange, Roxy 365 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: wrote to Pixie, do you want me to organize oysters? 366 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: We didn't get to the bottom of that conversation last night. 367 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: Pixie just replied, yes please, I mean please, that just 368 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: sla please, which Roxy inquired natural with lemon or vinegarette. 369 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: Now this was a very silly question because of course 370 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: Pixie wanted both varieties, the thought of having an oyster 371 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: at twelve, like, I don't even eat oysters now, but 372 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: I remember when we were younger, we would play a 373 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: game at an where you can eat restaurant where the 374 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: oysters would be the dud thing, Like if you had 375 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: to blindfold someone and you force them to eat an oyster, 376 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: but it wasn't I wouldn't eat them now they like boogers. 377 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean it just fucking gross, Sophie. This might un 378 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: refined to be maybe for Roxy wrote back to Pixie, 379 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: I liked you more when pizza and French fries were 380 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: a thing, and so did my bank account, to which 381 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: Pixie just responded ha ha ha kkek cake. Now, in 382 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 1: their professional video, we saw Pixie actually throwing back an 383 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: oyster and opening her mouth wide to show her friends 384 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: that it was gone. Surely the other kids at the 385 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: party just wanted pizza and chips. Yeah, I mean from 386 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: that video, I assume maybe they were just having a 387 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: bit of fun with it. There's something that didn't sit 388 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: well with me was the style of drinks that were 389 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: being brought out. They were all served in cocktail glasses, 390 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: and to the naked eye, they really resembled apparol spritzers, 391 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: and it just seemed a bit awkward. I mean, I'm 392 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: sure that they were mocktails, I'm like one hundred percent 393 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: sure they were, But to me, as a parent, I 394 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: just wouldn't really feel comfortable with drinks being presented this 395 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: way to kids. I'm already tell that I'm going to 396 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: be this overprotective parent. Can It just reminded me of 397 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: when we were twelve. We got invited to a birthday 398 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: party and it was actually a girl who was a 399 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: year younger than us, and the girl's mum gave everybody 400 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: a box of fads which looked like cigarettes. So we 401 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: were walking around the streets with these fads like sucking 402 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: on them. Mum was outraged. She was like, I don't 403 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: want my girls walking around with fake cigarettes. No, it's 404 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: not a good look, and I just think it glamorizes drinking, 405 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: and in that case cigarette, it's just scary to think 406 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: how young kids actually start drinking as well, because I 407 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: remember at our high school, all of the cool kids 408 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: parents would supply alcohol at thirteenth birthday parties, and it 409 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: seemed like parents were just so desperate for their kids 410 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: to be cool that they were happy to do it. 411 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: And when you look at Pixie and her friends, they 412 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: aren't old looking twelve year olds, like some of them 413 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: look between eight and nine. Do you think it could 414 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: be a case of though at this venue, they're obviously 415 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: used to doing adult parties, maybe they didn't want to 416 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: hand out the other Glee tumblers for dred Way. Pixie 417 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: would have been very specific as to what she wanted, 418 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: and it's clear that she wants this to look like 419 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: a mature event. And it's quite clear that birthday parties 420 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: have now become a branding exercise for Pixie because they're 421 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: meant to shock. I think Roxy wants it to be 422 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: ironic that a bunch of kids are acting like adults. 423 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: I feel like it's all part of this pr machine 424 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: that she's got going. Because it's doing well though, Yeah, 425 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: because these sort of stunts they make Pixie's starshine brighter 426 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: and they get her relevance and I'm sure after this party, 427 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: she's got a whole bunch of more people who are 428 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: following her, which in turn is just generating more money 429 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: for her. He's our gentle giant who has a really 430 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: big heart. Former married at First Sight contestant Seb Gilhaus 431 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: is behind bars following a major drug bust at his 432 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: home in Adelaide. Seb is facing drug trafficking charges after 433 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: police allegedly seized eight hundred and seventy grams of meth 434 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: amphetamine with an estimated street value of ninety thousand dollars. 435 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: Seb is also set to appear in court later this 436 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: week for a bail hearing. What's really scary about this 437 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: story is just how much jail time Seb is potentially facing. 438 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: So he's yet to make a plea, but if found guilty, 439 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: depending on the quantity of drugs, he could face up 440 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: to twenty five years imprisonment and a two hundred thousand 441 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: dollar fine. Now for larger commercial quantities, it is life imprisonment. 442 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: This is really scary. I was really sad to see 443 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: this story, particularly because Seb is from our hometown in 444 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: Adelaide and he had a really promising career in the 445 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: ESA NFL. He's one of those guys that's sort of 446 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: always just been on the scene in Adelaide, and it 447 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: was really nice to see him go on a show 448 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: like Married at First Sight get a bit of a profile. 449 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: But it seems like the past couple of years something's 450 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: just been a bit off. I mean, I agree, it 451 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: is really sad, but we do know that drugs have 452 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: such a serious impact on the community and it is 453 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: a great get by the police to have these drugs 454 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: taken off the street. But it's so sad to see 455 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 1: how much his life has changed since appearing on Maths 456 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: because he was so well liked when he went on 457 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: the show in twenty twenty. I don't know if you 458 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: watched his series so but he was paired up with 459 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Sobnov. I think that's how you pronounce her last name. Sorry, Well, yeah, 460 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: they were together, weren't they. Yeah, So she returned for 461 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 1: a second chance because she was cheated on in the 462 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: previous series, and he was, of course her husband. So 463 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: he won over a lot of the viewers because he 464 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: treated Elizabeth really nicely and he had a really quirky personality. 465 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: They made it to the end of the show, but 466 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: ended up breaking up a year later, but since then 467 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: he has copped it from fans. So Seb shocked a 468 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: lot of followers in April last year when he announced 469 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: he was joining OnlyFans with his then girlfriend, so he 470 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: received countless negative comments and dms, which led Zeb to 471 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: apologize to his audience for shocking them. He said he 472 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: didn't see anything wrong with being empowered sexually with someone 473 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm close to, and hopefully empowering others to embrace a 474 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: very important part of life. I definitely haven't changed as 475 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: a human being, just adding a little spice a new 476 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: life experience. It's, of course, everyone's prerogative to decide what 477 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: this means to them. It was really fascinating to see 478 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: the response from followers directed at a male as opposed 479 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: to a female, because in recent times females who have 480 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: left reality shows when they've joined only fans, a lot 481 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: of people are like, yeah, go girl, that's super empowering, 482 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: well done, let's get behind you. But then it was 483 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: actually funny to see the opposite and see a man slutshamee. 484 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 485 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: Well, he spoke out a bit saying it was a 486 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: bit of a double standard and that it was sad 487 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: to see that people weren't, you know, thinking his actions 488 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: were empowering. Now former Maths contestant Haley Vernon she's also 489 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: been dragged into the headlines despite having nothing to do 490 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: with the drug charges. So Haley and said they struck 491 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: up a friendship after appearing in the same series of Maths, 492 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: and they've recently started creating OnlyFans content together. So on Sunday, 493 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: Haley took to her Instagram to defend both herself and 494 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 1: she revealed that she was with him just two hours 495 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: before the drug rate in Adelaide. She wrote, I had 496 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: no idea about his arrest until my inbox just now 497 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: has been slammed with articles of an arrest. What I 498 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: will say though, is over the past few months, Seb 499 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: and I had become great friends. I knew Seb was 500 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: struggling with his mental health, gravitating to me to help 501 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: and guide him. I just wish I had known what 502 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: was allegedly going on so I could have helped him. 503 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: I am shautted for my friend and for what this 504 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: now means for another young man's life. So on Saturday, 505 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: Haley actually shared a post asking if anybody had seen 506 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: Seb because she hadn't heard from him for the past 507 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: few days, and she said she assumed he'd been out parting. 508 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: Little did she know he was actually behind bars. It's 509 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: quite clear that Haley is concerned that she's going to 510 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: be connected to these charges, because she wrote, I'll wait 511 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: for the absolute onslaught from the media about the correlation 512 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: between me, the ex attict, and him being arrested. She 513 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: then told her followers that the media had already put 514 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: her photo in most of the news articles and she's 515 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: had to prepare her family for what's about to be printed. 516 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: She wrote, the fact of the matter is I was 517 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: friends with someone because he wanted to change, nothing more, 518 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: nothing less, and somehow I can see my ass being 519 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: dragged into this mediate shit show. I don't know if 520 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: you remember this, Sophie, but when Hailey's season of Maths 521 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: was on, she came out in a Current Affair interview 522 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: and revealed that she'd battled a drug addiction since the 523 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: age of sixteen. So she said she'd been using meth 524 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: and cannabis and last week is really bad timing. Haley 525 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: also shared with her followers that she'd stopped taking cocaine 526 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: and had been clean for ten weeks she told The 527 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: Daily Mail that the best thing she's ever done in 528 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: her thirty six years is to quit alcohol, saying, in 529 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: her opinion, alcohol does more damage than anything. This is 530 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: just such a sad story and one that's everywhere in 531 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: Adelaide at the moment. The reporting of it has been 532 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: quite interesting though, especially by the Advertiser, which is Adelaide's 533 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: local paper, because they've been saying a former reality TV star, 534 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: an sanfl footballer, once described as one of the state's 535 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: most eligible bachelor's is behind bars on remand after a 536 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: huge drug bus. Now what's really funny about this and 537 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: what shit Adelaide, which is a legendary Adelaide Instagram has 538 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: pointed out is the Advertiser are the ones who've labeled 539 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: him as the Adelaide Bachelor because they did a feature 540 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty one on the most Eligible Adelaide 541 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: Bachelors and of course featured seb was just just an 542 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: excuse to pull out a photo of him without his 543 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: shirt on. Because this is what the Advertiser all they 544 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: have been doing is trying to clickbait hot people. No 545 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: the articles about hot people, they just want to get 546 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: clicks on I need to show you the photo. It's 547 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: Seb holding a love heart balloon, all like his clothes, 548 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: completely clothed. He looks very innocent there. It's a bit 549 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: of an odd photo though, I mean on the front 550 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: page of Adelaide. Now though they had this photo where 551 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: he was completely ripped in the gym. I know he's 552 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: been training to do a bodybuilding competition. I just have 553 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: to add in though, shit Adelaide's comments, so they wrote, 554 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: note he has been charged, not found guilty of any offense. 555 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: He's resumed innocent of the crime, but obviously culpable of 556 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: posting that selfie and for going on. 557 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: Maths say something fucking nice to me? 558 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: Sorry, wrong number? 559 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: You know what I like about you? 560 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: Nothing? Mark Orvil, better known as Angry Dad, has officially 561 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: launched his own real estate company. The business, appropriately named 562 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: Orville real Estate, is said to be a family affair. 563 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: That's right so, because Mark has confirmed that Mitch and 564 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: Hannah Orville will be joining the business after both completing 565 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: their real estate training. So Mark has been busily sharing 566 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: updates on his LinkedIn account and also on the newly 567 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: launched Instagram account for Orville real Estate, which has already 568 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: clocked up four point seven thousand followers, so last month, 569 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: he told his LinkedIn followers he was excited to confirm 570 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: he's decided to move into real estate on the Gold Coast. 571 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: He wrote, having recently successfully completed the course to now 572 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: open up my own real estate office. I'm planning to 573 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: be up and running by the first of July twenty 574 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: twenty three. Some exciting news coming, including more detail on 575 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: the services my new agency will offer, and my business 576 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: partner that is super excited as well to get involved. 577 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: I look forward to the next part of my journey. Now, 578 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: what I found really interesting was the oral real Estates 579 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: motto is we call you back, we communicate, and we 580 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: care about your experience. I feel like all real estate 581 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: agents call you back and are super annoying. Oh my god, 582 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: I can't stand it. I mean, we're talking about real 583 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: estate earlier in the episode and I just screen it. 584 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: I just can't stand their calls. Now, this is quite 585 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: an interesting career move for Mark. He was a former 586 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: Collingwood player. He has previously worked as a global sales 587 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: manager at fraud Watch, and he also was the general 588 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: manager of Bauer Media, which really surprised me. Besides all 589 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: these important jobs. He really is best known as Angry Dad. 590 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: Do you think this is going to help or hinder 591 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: the real estate company. I think it's gonna help, particularly 592 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: because most real estate agents, I'm sorry for anyone listening, 593 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: they are not for being quite smarmy. And I think 594 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: that Angry Dad and Mitch and also Hannah really have 595 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: the gift of the gap and I think that they 596 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: would make really flashy real estate agents. Also the fact 597 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: that they can get their social media following behind it. 598 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: I think it's really positive too, because for so long 599 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: Mitch has spoken about really struggling with this social media job, 600 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: and I think for him to get out into I 601 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: suppose the real world and be dealing face to face 602 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: with people every day will be positive. I think they'll 603 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of contacts as well of you know, 604 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: friends who are well off that might want them to 605 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: sell their house for them. I think Angry Dad has 606 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: kind of that no bullshit approach that a lot of 607 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: people will actually like. Now on the real estate front, 608 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: do you remember last year Mitch and Chloe sold their house. 609 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: They made nearly one million dollars profit. It's up for 610 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 1: sale again. Wow, that's crazy. What's the asking price. I'm 611 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: assuming it's more. Well, there hasn't been one listed, but 612 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: set to go under the hammer on the eleventh of August. 613 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna be really interesting because the new buyers haven't 614 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: done any anything else to it. They're putting out the 615 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: same photos that Chloe and Mitch used last year. So 616 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: there's the movie room, of course, so it's going to 617 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: be interesting to see if this goes for even more 618 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: plot twist or a real estate selling it. Well, they're 619 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 1: actually not. I did think wouldn't that be funny if 620 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: they were Hamis? 621 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: Should I have the same agent, Mark Clemens. He's here 622 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: tonight and I said to him, I said, Mark, who 623 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: did you vote for? Put him on the spot And 624 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: he was like, well, Sonya, I think people are a 625 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: little over Hamish And I went no, Mark, surely not no. 626 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: He's the odds on favorite to win, and he went no. 627 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: And frankly, I'm secretly hoping he'll leave the agency so 628 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 3: I can concentrate all of my efforts on you, Sonya. 629 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: For the first time in twenty eight years, the logis 630 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: were back on seven and also they were held in Sydney. 631 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: Now I felt like there was a lot more buzz 632 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: around the Logis this year, especially on social media. Yeah, 633 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: there seemed to be a lot more people there with 634 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: genuine social media followings, whether they were podcasters or reality 635 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: styles and some influence, and there seem to be a 636 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: lot of genuine excitement to see what they were wearing 637 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: on the red carpet. And I think it's also because 638 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: the Logis did a stint on the Gold Coast, so 639 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: they didn't seem to attract the caliber of celebs that 640 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: they got this year. What I find really interesting is 641 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: that people in the social media world, they love to 642 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: be on TV and they think it's this huge thing 643 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: to be on it, even though they probably get more 644 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: views on social media or on YouTube. It's sort of 645 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: this honor to actually be invited to a red carpet 646 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: event and to be seen on television, even though most 647 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: Gen zetters and millennials probably aren't watching it. Well, it's 648 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: the nostalgia of the Logis, as a lot of these 649 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: people would have been kids watching it now. The Logis 650 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: was a rating success for seven, with an average of 651 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: eight hundred and seventy seven thousand viewers across the five 652 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: hour telecast. It was the second most watched show on 653 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: Sunday night, which might not sound like a huge feat, 654 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: but a lot of people have been turning off their 655 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: TVs not interested. I'm actually surprised at that many people 656 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: tuned in because there hasn't been much interest in the 657 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: Logi's preview. I must admit I didn't watch it, but 658 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: I was excited to see what everyone was wearing on 659 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: the Red Carpet on social media. Yeah. Now, in terms 660 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: of the awards, I was shocked to hear that Sonya 661 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: Krueger took home the Gold LOGI And maybe again it's 662 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: because I don't watch a lot of free to air, 663 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: but I didn't realize that she's on so many shows. 664 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: So she's on The Voice Today Extra and Dancing with 665 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: the Stars and Big Brother. Well she was on Big Brother. 666 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not running at the moment, but she's 667 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: she is busy and before taking home the Top Award, 668 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: she also hosted the Red Carpet with doctor Chris Brown, 669 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: and I thought it was quite funny because doctor Chris 670 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: Brown revealed that he was colorblind, so he didn't know 671 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: how well he'd go giving his critique or comments on 672 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: the fashion. But they seem to be quite a good 673 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: duo together. Well, Sonya actually used to work at Today tonight. 674 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that fun fact really 675 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: was a reporter. Yeah, she was a reporter. Oh, I 676 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: didn't realize that. Oh good on Evan. Now Sonya is 677 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: actually facing backlash though for her Logis acceptance speech, because 678 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: there was it was a very awkward dig at fellow 679 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: nominee Hamish Blake in there. So Sonya and Hamish they 680 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: share the same agent, and Sonya joked in her acceptance 681 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: speech that their mutual agent said, I think people are 682 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: a little over Hamish. Now. The next day, Sonya was 683 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: interviewed on radio and explained that she was so exhausted 684 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: by the time she collected her LOGI and said, I 685 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: was making the joke about our agent, Hamish and I 686 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: and I think people took it seriously. It was an 687 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: absolute joke, and the agent found it funny. I hope 688 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: Hamish did too. I must give him an apology email today. 689 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: I took that as a joke. I don't think there 690 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: was any malice. It was because they did a pan 691 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: to Zoe if Foster Blake and she sort of had 692 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: this really fake sort of smile and then just sort 693 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 1: of looked down at the table. It was really awkward. 694 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: You remember, though, this is a five hour broads probably 695 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: so over it, Like they spent all day getting ready, 696 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: They're just looking forward to the after party at that point. 697 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: Well that's what Sonya said, because she said she was 698 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: gobsmacked when her name was actually read out, and all 699 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: that went through her head was that she really wanted 700 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: a cheeseburger and fries, and that it was such a 701 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: long night that she just wanted to get it done 702 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: so everyone could go to the after party or just 703 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: back to their hotel rooms to relax. The thing that 704 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: I love though about Sonya taking home the Gold Logi 705 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: is that it's been eight years since a woman took 706 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: this award, really and she is fifty seven years old, 707 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: if you can believe it. I love the fact that 708 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: a woman in her late fifties is being recognized on 709 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: arguably one of Australia's biggest stages. I know we all 710 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: joke about the Logis, but it is still a big deal. 711 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: I think one big contributing factor to Sonya taking home 712 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: the Gold was the Relentless onya Sonya campaign, which was 713 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: held by new Logi's host network seven. So it was 714 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: developed by Sunrise where the man Sam Mack, and it's 715 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: been promoted on Sunrise with the crew even wearing Onya 716 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: Sonya T shirts, which is fuck. That is really hard 717 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: to say, so it really is now. What also adds 718 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: an interesting layer to this is that Sonia's current partner 719 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: is Craigmcpherson, who is seven Networks director of News and 720 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: Current Affairs. It's all very ancestral. Yeah, her and Craigmcherson 721 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: have been together for years. They share a daughter together. 722 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: I really think that her win also shows the demographic 723 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: who were watching free to air TV, which are boomers. Now. 724 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield I have to mention her as well because 725 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: I think she stole the red carpet. She was wearing 726 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: a black dress by a local designer and if you 727 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: haven't seen it, it had a ton of cutouts and 728 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: these swirl sort of things over her boobs. It also 729 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: had very gothic vibes to it. And whilst Abby was 730 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: at the logis, she actually called out a story that 731 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: The Daily Mail had just uploaded about her. And in 732 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: the story it says Abby Chatfield flashed her dairy air 733 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: on the red carpet. The masked singer at Star gave 734 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 1: onlook as an Eiffel when she adjusted her head turning 735 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: ensemble next to co star Dave hughes and I really 736 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: like their reaction because they are just laughing at house, 737 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: but it sounded and Dave's like, oh, so, I hope 738 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: it didn't look like I was looking at your bum 739 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: in that photo. I also found it really interesting to 740 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: see that the way that the media reported on her dress, 741 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: because in our Deep Dive episode, which we are dropping tomorrow, 742 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: we have been looking into beck jard in her infamous 743 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: red dress. So it's kind of sad to see that 744 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: twenty years on, there's still a lot of judgment over 745 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: women's choice of outfits. The reality is that Abby Chatfield 746 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: would generate a lot of clicks, so the Daily Mail 747 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: are going to print, you know, outrageous headlines to get 748 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: people to click onto articles about it. And I think 749 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: it's good that Abby and Hughesy were having a laugh 750 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: about it, because you can't fixate on that shit. I 751 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: also really loved it because the next day Abby jumped 752 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: on her story and said, oh, I've been getting all 753 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: these people messaging me saying, oh, the dress wasn't for me. 754 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: Here's how she responded. 755 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 2: This isn't for me. Yeah, it literally was made for me, 756 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 2: like it was made for me with the designer, So yeah, it's. 757 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: Not for you. Geez. That's a freaking burd. I love 758 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: that she had some fun with it though. Now that 759 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: is all we have time for today. Thank you so 760 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: much for joining us for another episode. Kate will be 761 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: back on Friday. I know she's raring to go. She 762 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: did actually share that we had a bit of a 763 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: disagreement from different countries over last week's episode. Apparently she 764 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 1: didn't agree with some of our points, but that's fair enough. 765 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 1: She seemed to think that Georgia Richards had been paid 766 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: by Starbucks yeah, to give her followers free Starbucks, so 767 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: we very highly disagreed. There was no sign of a 768 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: paid partnership, and she is very on the ball, so 769 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: maybe have to reach out to her and ask. It 770 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: is still inconclusive. I'm just disappointed in Kate because she's 771 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: been so mia on social media. I've not seen one 772 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: single photo and I must say one single grid post 773 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: that is about a trip. That is because Reese needs 774 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: some serious training in how to be a husband of Instagram. 775 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: She has sent me a couple of blood selfies. I 776 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: mean one was blurred. I don't of if it's the 777 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: humidity and the villa there in is insane, Like I've 778 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: not seen a single thing. I think people need to 779 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: get on to Kate. Go go in the group, tell 780 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: her you want to see some photo. She's only got 781 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: a few days last. This is the other thing she 782 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: sent me, the snapchat of this insane villa she's staying. 783 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: And I said, now, Kate, why do you put a 784 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: video off of the villain? Look, that might be a 785 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: nice idea. To be fair, Kate did upload something to 786 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: her TikTok. It was some forced blog. It was a 787 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: blog which I did enjoy recent that. But I just 788 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: think he and Kate need to pick up their social 789 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: media game. It has actually made me think I'm going 790 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: to be quite unashamably asking Branna to take photos of 791 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: me or on my honeymoon because it's memories exactly. Am 792 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: I going against my advice from my European vak. Maybe 793 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: she's taken too much on pake the photos, but you 794 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: don't have to share every single one of them on 795 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: social media. You want to have your honeymoon photo album. Oh, 796 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: Kate's going to have his couple of selfies there, so 797 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: they're getting back. Well, they got two more days there. 798 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: I've not seen one feed post. Please, Kate, if you're listening, 799 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: post some photos on your feed. We desperately want to 800 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 1: see some and next time you can borrow my camera 801 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: if you know she needs some help now. This podcast 802 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people 803 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past 804 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: and present, and if you haven't, could you please become 805 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: a subscriber. We have some incredible deep dive episodes on there. 806 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 1: We will be dropping part two of our Beck Judd 807 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: Deep Dive tomorrow