WEBVTT - Nikki Webster

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<v Speaker 1>A small show, the Smallsy Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, what's up? This is Nicky Webster. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>small Zy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm kiss on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolute Australian icon. In fact, sticker in a museum. She's

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<v Speaker 3>that much of an icon.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicky Webster's here, everybody, Thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>What an intro?

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<v Speaker 3>Has anyone ever told you that we should stick you

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<v Speaker 3>in a museum before?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that because I'm old?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is that no?

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<v Speaker 3>Just I think you're just a part of Australian icon

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<v Speaker 3>culture now No, maybe like.

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<v Speaker 2>A wax version of me would be pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>A Madam two Swords Nicky Webster would be great. Hey, well,

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<v Speaker 3>welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I after all of these years, is the first time

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<v Speaker 3>we've ever met. I know, and look and now I

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<v Speaker 3>can't believe that the banger, that honestly absolute banger twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five years old? Isn't that?

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<v Speaker 4>It's incredible to believe that this song has lived on

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<v Speaker 4>through the generations.

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<v Speaker 1>And how old were you when you did this?

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<v Speaker 4>It was just after the Olympics, so I was about

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the robot there was the robot's name.

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<v Speaker 2>DJ did it or Jimmy did It?

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<v Speaker 3>Was the best that was from the video clip For

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<v Speaker 3>people who don't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>It's right.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to create what I you know, this really

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<v Speaker 4>cute kind of boyfriend style DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that your idea?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I got to be a part of creating him

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<v Speaker 2>and designing him. It was pretty incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless you said so, I'm not talking over you here,

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<v Speaker 1>will It was a time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a good song.

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<v Speaker 4>I always knew it was going to be a good song,

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just glad it's lived on for.

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<v Speaker 2>This many years.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, congratulations on celebrating twenty five years anniversary of the song.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you write this or did you work with people

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<v Speaker 1>that wrote it for you?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I just heard it as a demo and I

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<v Speaker 4>said to my record label, I want that like I

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<v Speaker 4>want this song.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it Australian writers or.

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<v Speaker 2>Was in his international writers?

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff Frans who loves me very much because he's still

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<v Speaker 4>getting royalty checks.

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<v Speaker 3>For Wow, for my song, that song would be making money. Still,

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<v Speaker 3>did it get off a to anybody else, because you

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<v Speaker 3>hear a lot of the time songs like that get

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<v Speaker 3>pitched around or people pass on it. Had anyone else

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<v Speaker 3>been off of that song before you got off of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Aaron Carter actually had the song on hold because he

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<v Speaker 4>had done I Want Candy and then he wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>Strawberry hisses that would have worked for Aaron Patt.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had to fight pretty hard to say.

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<v Speaker 1>No my song and yeah, you went to war with

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Carter?

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<v Speaker 2>I did? I did?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever meet him?

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely did.

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<v Speaker 4>I got set up on a pizza date once with

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<v Speaker 4>him as well, so not long after that.

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<v Speaker 3>Seems a little uncomfortable now, doesn't Well, congratulations, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>where do we even start? What have you been doing

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<v Speaker 3>for the last twenty five years?

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<v Speaker 2>What have I been doing?

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<v Speaker 4>I've been I've run a performing arts studio for kids,

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<v Speaker 4>so like the new talent of up and coming talent,

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<v Speaker 4>which is pretty cool. So I get to work with

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<v Speaker 4>up and coming stars of today every day, which is

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<v Speaker 4>really inspiring.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you are you when you work with up and

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<v Speaker 3>coming stars and you encourage the kids to be stars?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you like a Chris Jenner encourager or Abby Lee

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<v Speaker 3>Miller dance Mum's encourager.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say I'm kind of in the middle, like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm more Chris Jenner as in, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to think about the whole picture.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to be the triple threat, and you've got to,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, think about your marketing and how to put

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<v Speaker 4>yourself out there and the hard work.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. But yeah, I think I'm more like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a little unhinged like Abby Lee Miller too?

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I'm a little bit of a perfectionist most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>To do just scream at the kids, No.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do that in twenty twenty six, No you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the kids of today can I just say,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd probably do it to us more to say, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to say, I reckon. The kids of today are

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<v Speaker 3>missing out on the whole being screamed at like nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's character fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I turned out me too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really character building being screamed at by an adult,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like you really know you've done something wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. However, I think the other way is pretty cool too.

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<v Speaker 4>You get to come into their own a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>more and their voice a little earlier and not afraid

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<v Speaker 4>to say no.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty cool. Oh really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So how are you celebrating twenty five years?

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<v Speaker 4>We are actually doing some really exciting things, which is

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<v Speaker 4>really cool. We are selling some merch to celebrate twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five years.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got the T shirt on today.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. It's not cute little it's fourteen year

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<v Speaker 3>old you it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wish I still look that young. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a T shirt which.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, sorry, you look just almost identical

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<v Speaker 3>to what you did twenty five years Obviously you're like

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<v Speaker 3>you're a mature woman now, but like everything is the

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<v Speaker 3>same for people, so they know the hair is the

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<v Speaker 3>same length, you're still petite, like you know, it is

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<v Speaker 3>wild how much people don't change change.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you've got the merch.

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<v Speaker 2>Got the merch.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to release a seven inches well of Strawbery

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<v Speaker 4>Kisses nyl, yeah, which is really cool. So you can

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<v Speaker 4>you can pre order all that stuff now. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>just about I guess, reflecting back on where you were

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<v Speaker 4>in the year, you know, in the tooth and how

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<v Speaker 4>much fun you had with the song and just having

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of fun, not taking it too seriously

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<v Speaker 4>and just a really good kind of vibe and spirit

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<v Speaker 4>and Strawby Kisses living on.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. That's so great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now take me back twenty five years ago. The

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<v Speaker 3>song comes out, it goes gangbusters. Everyone is like, is

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<v Speaker 3>this fair to say you were equal parts loved but

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<v Speaker 3>then also equal parts loathed, Like some people loved you

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<v Speaker 3>and then some other people were like, get this chick

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<v Speaker 3>off of my TV one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>That was solutely How did.

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<v Speaker 1>You handle that as a fourteen year old?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was tough, I think because I had come

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<v Speaker 4>from doing the Olympics, which was obviously you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>was recognized on a worldwide scale as representing my country,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was a very proud Aussie and I never

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to leave Australia as an artist because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm an Aussie girl at heart, and so that was

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<v Speaker 4>really hard to take. I think that I thought that

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<v Speaker 4>some people in my country turned against me, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think I wasn't quite sure what I had done wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But how do you even process that as a fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm glad there was no Instagram and direct messaging

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<v Speaker 4>or anything like that, because I think it would have

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<v Speaker 4>been a lot darker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's just my family being very grounded and

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<v Speaker 4>keeping me very grounded.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it was tough. However, I think it made

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<v Speaker 2>me a.

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<v Speaker 4>Little bit more resilient in terms of what I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to face as an adult, and also grateful for

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<v Speaker 4>the opportunities I had and the connections and the people

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<v Speaker 4>that I met along the way, the people that I

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<v Speaker 4>needed to respect me did, and the people that to

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<v Speaker 4>see me saw me, and the others were just noise.

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<v Speaker 1>Is how There's a lot of noise, right, There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of noise.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there is there something that you like stands out

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<v Speaker 3>as like a crazy like moment? I mean you talked

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<v Speaker 3>about that Aaron Carter pizza party. Is there something that

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<v Speaker 3>you know from that time that you look back on

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like, oh, did you fly somewhere, did you

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<v Speaker 3>meet someone where you're doing like corporates, or just is

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<v Speaker 3>there something that stands out that you just like that

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<v Speaker 3>was just the wildest time of my life.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the whole thing I was like traveling around

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<v Speaker 4>the world. I was touring, I was you know, singing

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<v Speaker 4>at different corporate events. I got to do like aerobatics

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<v Speaker 4>in a plane once and you know fly they shut

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<v Speaker 4>the engine off and fly down to the ground and

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<v Speaker 4>then fly back up singing strawberry kisses.

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<v Speaker 2>Just crazy stuff I was doing and able to do

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<v Speaker 2>as a young kid.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and just travel the world with my backup dancers

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<v Speaker 4>who were my best friends from you know, school, and

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<v Speaker 4>just live in life thinking this is the way.

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<v Speaker 1>How great is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you finish school?

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<v Speaker 2>I did so?

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<v Speaker 1>So your fourteen?

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<v Speaker 3>So hang on, so let's just go back you you

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<v Speaker 3>do the Olympics right then they string you up in

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<v Speaker 3>the air and everyone remembers that what happened after that

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<v Speaker 3>because obviously you were like everyone was talking about that

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<v Speaker 3>Aussie girl that everyone was flicking around that they were

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<v Speaker 3>flicking around the opening ceremony.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Then it was you know, getting presented with opportunities and

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<v Speaker 4>there was no written book on how to do it

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<v Speaker 4>or what to do or the paths to follow. We

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<v Speaker 4>were all just shooting blind, going okay, let's take a

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<v Speaker 4>record contract, let's see where that leads us, and let's

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<v Speaker 4>do a tour and let's you know, go to school

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<v Speaker 4>in the in the term and then tour in the holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>And is that how it went down?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Let's make a clothing brand and be the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>girl's clothing brand, you know in came up stores for years,

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<v Speaker 4>like let's design clothes, let's design bedding, Like it was

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<v Speaker 4>just it was crazy. I just kept saying yes. I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, sure, yeah, yeah, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>How exciting is that?

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<v Speaker 3>It's really cool life memories I can imagine, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the best thing was I was always allowed

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<v Speaker 4>to sit at the table of these meetings. No one

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<v Speaker 4>ever kept me out and thought I was young. They

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<v Speaker 4>just were like, yeah, come in and be a part

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So that because I would have I would have thought

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<v Speaker 3>at the time, I mean, I was only a kid too,

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<v Speaker 3>But like I would have thought at the time, there

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<v Speaker 3>would have been people thinking, oh, there's adults manipulating her here,

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<v Speaker 3>like she's not at the table, she's just being wheeled out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think when they saw me in the meetings,

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<v Speaker 4>they realized that it was me driving it, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I was just blessed to have, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>some good support. I had Burton Newton, I had Kylie

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<v Speaker 4>Minogue who were always kind of I could call or

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<v Speaker 4>ring and ask for advice.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>You had Burton Newton, yeah, and Kylie Minau.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not name dropping, just like so they just they

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<v Speaker 3>reached out to you and said, hey, if you've ever

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<v Speaker 3>got a question or just.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'd worked with Kylie and the closing ceremony, and

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<v Speaker 4>we became really close.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Bert and I had worked.

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<v Speaker 4>With in musical theater since I was, you know, five

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<v Speaker 4>years old, so we had developed this relationship and support

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<v Speaker 4>and he would just reach out and I'd ask questions

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<v Speaker 4>and bounce ideas off them. So really good, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>industry knowledge and just you know, really sound support from

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<v Speaker 4>a young girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm pretty's really lovely.

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<v Speaker 3>Now tell me when you auditioned for that opening ceremony,

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<v Speaker 3>you would have been up against other girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, plenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are they now? The barefoot and pregnant let's look

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<v Speaker 1>at them to ring it, you know that hate you.

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<v Speaker 1>They would like Strawberry kids. They would have been.

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<v Speaker 3>They would still be telling stories about that male Nikki

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<v Speaker 3>Webster who stole my job.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was at compared to the reality show. They

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<v Speaker 4>would have made one of the hero girl.

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<v Speaker 3>You know how it was it super competitive to get

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<v Speaker 3>that opening ceremony.

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<v Speaker 2>Hugely competitive.

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<v Speaker 4>I think every girl in Australia was going for this

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<v Speaker 4>role that no one really knew what it was because

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<v Speaker 4>it was so undercover and so secretive. But yeah, one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred percent. It was months and months of auditions and

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<v Speaker 4>it was a very cupbroat process.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, where can we get the merch So you can.

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<v Speaker 4>Get it on my Instagram which is Nikki Webster Official.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a link there and you can pre order it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, okay, and it's going to be the T shirts.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a cap apparently it's a pretty cool cap seven

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<v Speaker 3>inch vinyl of Strawberry Kisses and apparently the vinyl is

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<v Speaker 3>in Strawberry Kisses red.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it?

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<v Speaker 3>This is great, so fun before I let you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Weirdest place you've heard Strawberry Kisses?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, probably probably in a bathroom cubicle someone singing it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, saw me walk in and then sit in

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<v Speaker 4>the cuba cole and just start singing it. That's probably

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<v Speaker 4>the weirdest.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird. Yeah, it's kind of weird to get it

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<v Speaker 1>in store.

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<v Speaker 3>Radios or like just in the you know, piping through

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<v Speaker 3>the westfield every now and then when you walk in.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, and then my kids start, My two kids

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<v Speaker 4>start belting it out to do embarrassed like it's Nicky

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<v Speaker 4>Webster over here.

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<v Speaker 1>How old are your kids?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, my daughter's twelve and my son's eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Now did they they obviously know mum was a pop star.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they rinse you for that? Or do they.

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<v Speaker 4>Think I'm still in the cool era? Okay, they don't

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<v Speaker 4>despise me about it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But now that you've done this merch drop, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hate you.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he's my son stole my hat. Oh really at

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<v Speaker 4>home and he stole the hat and my daughter stole

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<v Speaker 4>the top.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, cool, all right, you're owning it. You're still cooler.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still cooler, You're still cooler.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good era.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, congratulations on twenty five years. Congratulations on doing the

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<v Speaker 3>merch range and the merch Drop. That's very exciting because

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<v Speaker 3>you know what a lot of the child stars at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, they're dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and you can as in the music stand.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Aaron Carter, he gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just be positive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah No, I'm just oh yeah, sorry, let's give it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's give it up.

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<v Speaker 3>No. But I'm just saying, hey, good on you because,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, and congratulations that the people around you

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<v Speaker 3>and the people you had, good people around you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they kept time. Most of I don't know. Was

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<v Speaker 1>there drama?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I need to tell all a book. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I should have you done a book. There's stories.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know there would be stories, which is

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<v Speaker 3>what I've been trying to poke at and get you

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<v Speaker 3>to tell me the dark side, the underbelly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. But no, I'm pretty sure when.

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<v Speaker 3>You write the book, I'll come back talking about everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You make sure you.

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<v Speaker 2>Come back at this interview in no, well, no, you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Just say, hey, it was a great idea that we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about all of the dark side. I will do

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<v Speaker 3>the forward. I grew up watching her. I thought life

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<v Speaker 3>was great. It turns out there's a dark side to

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<v Speaker 3>Nicky Webster. See there we go already the website, your

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram and your website for the limited edition merch Strawberry

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<v Speaker 3>Kisses Australian iconic anthem, Thank you, thank you.

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