1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Everybody, it's time for John Z and Amanda's cutting. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 2: For Man's Fall. 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 3: You know what we didn't get to talk about today. 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 3: You were going to talk about Max Rolly's funeral and 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 3: you were given the great honor of delivering one of 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 3: the eulogies. 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a big deal. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 4: Well, Max was a big deal to you. 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: We have him to think that you're on the wireless, 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: he said, thank is in inverted commas. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Well it was kind of interesting as well, because when 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: I look at it, to be doing the eulogy for 14 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Max Rolly is a big deal. 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 4: Or he was your mentor all those years. 16 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Ago when I went to his media academy, which was 17 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: just a terrace house in Chalmers. 18 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 4: Street in Redford, and how old were you? 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 2: Nineteen? And I showed up there and I thought, well, 20 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: what's this joy? This is like someone's house. It didn't 21 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: look like a radio studio. 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 4: Don't you've gone to the wrong place. 23 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: It was there, there's Max and all these students sitting 24 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: in lounges mixsmatched lounges around the place, and I. 25 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 4: Thought, well, what the hell is this? 26 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: You know, it look like one of those places. 27 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: I went up to the studio I thought I was 28 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: going to wake up in a bit of a bath. 29 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: Of ice with the kidney missing. That's another sliding door 30 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: for your life. 31 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Could be a sliding door moment. But it was such 32 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: a great honor. 33 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: How do you feel, though, if you get tasked with 34 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: doing a eulogy about keeping it together? Because towards the end, 35 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: I kind of lost it, a little bit lost it. 36 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: You just lost it emotionally, a little bit just to 37 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: crack in the voice. Oh, I think that's stuff. 38 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: No one would ever judge you for being emotional in 39 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: a eulogy. Did you feel you shouldn't have been? 40 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: I just feel that you've got to be, you know, 41 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: like a less emotional You've almost got to be newsreader. 42 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: Oh that's an impossible ask of someone, isn't it? Which 43 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: did you lose it over? 44 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: Just towards the end, It's almost like you can see 45 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: the finish line. 46 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: You've got your script written, it's all in your head, 47 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: You've done your preparation and you can see the end. 48 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: But there's usually a sincere beat at the end, because 49 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: I knowing you, you would have put some humor in along 50 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: the way, and was a very sincere beat at the end. 51 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: That court you that's the bit that made you get wobbly. 52 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it was because towards the end, the 53 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: end of it was I left the Academy and I've 54 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: been away from Max for about a year. I hadn't 55 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: seen him for a year. And I'm working on some 56 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: crazy building side, so not working in radio, and I'm 57 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: going back to my bike and I'm covering concrete dust 58 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: and I look like just a builder's laborer, and I 59 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: just hear from behind me, Well, if it isn't Brendan Jones, 60 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: turn around, it's Max and we start talking about radio, 61 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: and he said, well, what about you? Are you getting 62 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: into it? I said no, I just look. I think 63 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: that's it for me. I think I've done Wow. 64 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: Imagine if you'd had if you'd stop there. 65 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: Well that's what he said. He said, I think you're 66 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: selling yourself a matured mode. That's Max us to talk, 67 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: by the way, and he said, why did you come 68 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: back to the academy And we'll work on your audition tape, 69 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: So we put these When you're in the academy, that's 70 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: what you're every week you record. 71 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: You might be reading the news or you might be 72 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: doing a music show. 73 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: Or an interview with someone and so, and then you 74 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: put your audition tape together and then you send it 75 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: out and hope for the best. And largely anyone that's 76 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: ever tapes out to a radio station, it's a it's 77 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: a terrible journey. 78 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: Had you done that? 79 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah for ages, yeah, for a year, but 80 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: totally disillusioned that, you know, for a year of just 81 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: a constant rejection. 82 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 4: He said try again, and he said, just try again. 83 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: And he made me send a tape to six Ka 84 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: Kratha where no one wanted to go so and. 85 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 4: That was your first radio keep so in So you 86 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: said this in your eulife. 87 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: I said this in my eulogy. And you know what 88 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: about Max? He could have quite easily ignored me that day. 89 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: He could have said to just look at that guy 90 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: I used to be, used to be one of my students. 91 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: Haven't seen him for a year. 92 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: Well, I've heard your earlier tapes. He had every right 93 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: to ignore it. 94 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: He could have run gone the other way, but instead 95 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: he sought me out. And if he hadn't sought me out, 96 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: would I be indeed still working at that building site, 97 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: wondering what could have been the fact that Max didn't. 98 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's quite profound. I can see where you've got 99 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: emotional telling. 100 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: That's yeah. And then that's where I. 101 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: Oh, Max rolly much mystic. 102 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: Okay, kids, that's it for today. 103 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 4: Come back tomorrow from one of Josey and a Man. 104 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 4: This cutting room for the Trap of Fall.