1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Yea, the Will and Woody podcast that bite sized. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Right now, I'm excited to announce our next guest who 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: is going to be joining us. Given that it's ten 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: years as of yesterday since this moment, I say. 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: To the leader of the Opposition, I will not be 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: lectured about sexism and misogyny by this man. 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: I will not eat Ten years since Julia Gillard's speech 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 2: in Parliament, and she's released a book not now, not ever, 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: available in all good bookstores, and she joins us right 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: now on Will and Woody. 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 4: Welcome Julia, Hello, Hello, great to be with you. 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much for joining us. We're 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: pumped about this. We've got a little surprise a little 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: bit later on which we'll talk about shortly, which is 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: actually a sixteen year old girl who's going to join us, 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: who was six at the time that this speech came out. 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: She doesn't know that we've got you on the line. 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: But before we get to that, obviously, your Prime Minister 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: now nine years ago, twenty ten, twenty thirteen, when you 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: look back at your time, then do you have a 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: regret or something that you wish that you haud have 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: done whilst you're in Parliament? Or as Prime minister. 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 4: Well, no one's time in politics is perfect or error 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: free or anything like that. I made my fair share 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 4: of them. But you know, there's no time machine to 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: take you back there and to go back and fix it. 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 5: If you could, if you could click your fingers right now, 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 5: Julia Gillan, I know the world doesn't work this way, unfortunately, 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 5: but if you could click your fingers right now and 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 5: just change one particular thing, what would that be. 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: I would have called out the sexism earlier. I think 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 4: I thought, you know, it's all going to work its 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 4: way through the system. People will get used to there 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 4: being a woman prime minister, so nothing to see here. 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 4: Let's just keep going. It'll all fix itself. And obviously 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: it didn't. So I try calling it out earlier and 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: seeing if that worked. 38 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: I remember when we last spoke to you, you recounted 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: this story for us about the fact that when you 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: when you when you became Prime minister, there was a 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: photo of you and it was you wearing this colored 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: blazer and most of the headlines were about your jacket, 43 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: not about the fact that you were actually Australia's first 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: female prime minister. 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: That was the first day I was prime minister. We 46 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 4: ended up referring to it as the coat that divided 47 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 4: a nation. But really being prime minister is about more 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: important things than that, and all of the constant scrutiny 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: about appear and certainly got in the way of just 50 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 4: being received as someone who was getting about a serious 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 4: job and doing, you know, things matter for the nation. Yeah. 52 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 5: Can you can you see a female PM existing sometime 53 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: in the near future, Juliet here in Australia. 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't say near future because I'm certain hoping 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 4: that Albow and the team are in government for a long, long, 56 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: long long time. It would be nice to see more 57 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: women in Parliament coming through on the Conservative side. It's 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: only when right across the parliament you're at around about 59 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 4: half half that you can expect to see women come 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: through for the prime ministership in reasonable numbers. That around 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: half the time it's a woman who's leading the nation. 62 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, hopefully fingers crossed. I'm sure we'd all love 63 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: to see another female Prime minister sometime soon, and we 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: might actually have a prospective female PU minister on the 65 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: line right up next. Her name is Riley. We are 66 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: talking about the fact that it's ten years since your 67 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: famous misogyny speech, and she is so obsessed with you, 68 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: so obsessed with that day, that she has remembered the 69 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: entire speech off by heart, Julia, and she's not going 70 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: to know that you're on the line, and what don't 71 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: means She's going to deliver it, and then we're going 72 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: to reveal that you've actually they've been listening to. The 73 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: whole thing should be really special. It's coming up next 74 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: with Julia Gillard. We've got the one and only Julia 75 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: Gillard who joins on the show right now. 76 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: Thank you. 77 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: Yesterday mark ten years since your famous misogyny speech in Parliament. 78 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: I will not be lectured about sexism and misogyny by 79 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: this man. 80 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: I will not. And what we've got right now, so Julia, 81 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: there's a woman called Riley who we know is an 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: enormous fan of yours. She's sixteen years old, she's still 83 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: at school, but she was six years old when that 84 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: speech came out ten years ago. She knows every line 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: of the speech off by heart. She is totally obsessed 86 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: with it, totally obsessed with you, and I think totally 87 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: inspired by you. So what we're going to do is 88 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: she doesn't know that you're on the phone, so she 89 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: can't hear me right now. So I'm going to cross 90 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: across to Riley. I'll let her deliver the speech, and 91 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: then after she has, I'll bring you up to surprise her. 92 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 4: That's gorgeous. 93 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, give me give me two sets. 94 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: Here we go. 95 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: Hi, Riley, Hi, you're a big fan of Julia. 96 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: I am, actually yeah. I just think she's a really 97 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: strong woman. You know, she's made like a really good 98 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: example for all girls. Really, I mean, I know I 99 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: look up to her. 100 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, what what what do you want to do when 101 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 5: you finish school? 102 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: I think I want to be a teacher. 103 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: Nice. 104 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 5: Awesome, I love that. 105 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 4: Awesome. 106 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Riley. Well, look ten years to the 107 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: day since Julia gill I delivered that famous misogyny speech 108 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: in Parliament. Obviously we can't get Julia, but we've got 109 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 2: the next best thing, which is you. Are you ready 110 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: to Are you ready to deliver it to the nation 111 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: for us? 112 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: I am? 113 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right mate, Well, the floor is yours. What 114 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: He's going to shave his head and cower in the 115 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: corner and play Tony the Red Speedos jumping on an onion. 116 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: All right, Riley, whenever you're ready, go for it. 117 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: I will not be lectured about sexism and misogyny by 118 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: this man. I will not, and the Government will not 119 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: be lectured about sexism and misogyny by this man. Not now. 120 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: Not ever. The leader of the Opposition says that people 121 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: who hold sexist views and who are misogynists are not 122 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: appropriate for high office. Well, I hope the Leader of 123 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: the Opposition has got a piece of paper and he 124 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: is writing out his resignation, because if he wants to 125 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: know what misogyny looks like in modern Australia, he doesn't 126 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: need a motion in the House of Representative. 127 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: He needs a mirror. 128 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: A mirror. 129 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: Wow. 130 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 5: Wait, wow, Riley, powerful Wow. 131 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: You even had a bit of a Jay gill accent 132 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: going on there as well. That's great stuff. Hey, well, Riley, 133 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: that was absolutely fantastic. But don't hear it from me. 134 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: You can hear it from Julia Gillard yourself, who listened 135 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: to the whole thing and is on the phone right now. 136 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Riley, that was amazing. I think you 137 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 4: delivered it better than I did. I'm incredibly impressed. 138 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you so much. 139 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 4: You know when I was your age, I wanted to 140 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: be a teacher and I ended up Prime minister, so 141 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 4: you never know what's possible. 142 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, all right, yeah, I'm good. 143 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: Wow. That was amazing. Thank you so much for joining us. 144 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: Riley, Oh good guy, have you too, I have a 145 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: wonderful day, mate. 146 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Julia Gills, pleasure mate. Thank you 147 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: also for joining us. Julia is shocked. 148 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 5: How about you trying to recruit her into politics very 149 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 5: quickly though, Julia, I wanted to be a teacher too, 150 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 5: but I became the Prime minister. 151 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: She's fantastic, very good fun, Julia. 152 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. 153 00:07:59,480 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: Tea. 154 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: Since the Mesogy speech in Parliament, Julie's book Not Now, 155 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: Not Ever is available now at all Good bookstores to 156 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: commemorate the ten year anniversary of that speech. Really, it's 157 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: always so wonderful to have you on the show. We're 158 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: huge fans of yours here and I hope you can 159 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: hear for yourself what a talisman you have been for 160 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: a whole generation of women. It was really great to hear. 161 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: Thank you. That was absolutely lovely, lovely lovely to hear. Riley, 162 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 163 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: Pleasure, Julia, I have a great ask today, Why are 164 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: you done with that? 165 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: Why not check out more from women Woody on the 166 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,359 Speaker 1: Full Show podcast.