1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're joined by journalists Sophie 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: and Amy Torbert. Coming up on the episode The Bachelor's 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Double Standards, Why vacations with friends can be a recipe 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: for disaster? 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: Just who is Visco Girl? 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: And is Math's Jessica Power said to wreak havoc on 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: the Love Island Villa. But firstly, Amy, how. 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: Was your week? 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Well, this week, I actually experience the loudest delivery man 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: I've ever come across, and it was all to do 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: with you. 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have a bad habit. 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: I get all of my deliveries sent to Amy's house 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: because I'm in a gated community. So has a gated community, 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: so I have to Yeah, I can't get anything of 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: all size deliver it. So that's Sophie's excuse. I think 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: it's because she just wants me to open the door 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: to the postman and sign for her goods. Anyway, it 19 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: was quite humorous this week because she got sent I 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: think because of our wit. So for those who don't know, 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: we actually run a public relations business called the pr Bible, 22 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: and sometimes we get people wanting to send us stuff. 23 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: And so someone reached out to Sophie's email address and 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: asked her if she'd like to receive some mushrooms, just 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: normal mushrooms, and to my shock, Sophie replied yes. And 26 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: Sophie actually hates mushrooms, she despises them. So I was 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 1: supposed to say this girl was so nice. 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: I just thought i'd give it to a friend. 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: And I was in atrigued to see how the mushrooms 30 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: would be delivered anyway. So I'm just, you know, working 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: away at home, and I hear this knock and I 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: don't know if you can hear this, but it was 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: a bit like this, so quite a friendly knock. Well 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: that friendly knock turned quite feverish when I didn't answer, 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: and this and this knock went on for half an hour. 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: So why didn't you just answer? 37 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: That was my question, because I don't think you can 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: leave someone knocking at your door for at least five 39 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: times and they go, oh hello. 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: I just didn't want to. 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: Deal with it, and I knew it was your mushrooms, 42 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, just leave them at the door. 43 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: Anyway. 44 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: That was probably the most annoying thing. It was pretty funny. 45 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: I was on the other end of the line, Amy 46 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: was calling me. She's like whispering because she didn't want 47 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: them to hear. These bloody people won't leave, and it 48 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: did sound a rather violent knock, so it was, and 49 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: they ended up leaving them. And I thought, anyway, that 50 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: being said, it was a beautiful bunch of mushrooms. Well, 51 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: how's your week being besides the mushroom wind? 52 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had a good week. 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: I have been inspired by Steph Claire Smith to do 54 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: up my kitchen. So I don't know if anyone else 55 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: saw it, but she's moved into this incredible house. It's 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: oh my god. I couldn't even get over it. I 57 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: was so envious, but then like living for every Snapchat 58 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: or inst the story of it. And she has hired 59 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: this organizational company to basically do up her whole walking 60 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: pantry and they've also done up her the cupboards in 61 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: her bathroom as well, so they've organized all of her makeup, 62 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: all of her beauty products at Combs. Wow. It's incredible, 63 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try and get onto it. They probably 64 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: are too expensive for me, but I'm going to try 65 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: and do the km art option and see if I 66 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: can recreate it in my own small pantry. Do you 67 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: love when influencers put up instant stories and they're looking 68 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: for someone to organize their stuff. Have you seen that 69 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: where people are like, Ay, just need somebody to go 70 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: through my cupboard and organize my things. It's like when 71 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson put up the post for a PA and 72 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: I was just. 73 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: Like, why don't I live in Sydney. 74 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: I would drop that job in a heartbeat to do it. 75 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: Drop your job. You work with me, We run a business. 76 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if your master's in journalism 77 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: would assist with organizing Samming's day to day. I just 78 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: like to be friends with her, just hang out with her. Well, 79 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: we should probably move on to our first topic. Bachelor 80 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: runner up Abby Chatfield has accused the Australian public of 81 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: having double standards following fans reaction to popular contestant Kieran 82 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: posing nude during last week's episode of The Bachelorette. And 83 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: it's not the first time the show has been accused 84 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: of fostering outdated ideologies about men and women. So, for 85 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: those of you who didn't see the episode, Angie's sidekick Evie, 86 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: returned to the mansion and she decided to take the 87 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: guys out on a Hen's night kind of date, and 88 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: so they had this big butt party bars and ev 89 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: was getting to know them all. 90 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: Anyway, they arrived. 91 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: To draw portraits, which I think is one of the 92 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: new kind of things to do at a hen's party, 93 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: and Angie was of course there and so excited to 94 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: see Evie. Anyway, the person who ran the event. So 95 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: the guys, we need someone to strip off any volunteers, 96 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: and of course Kieran, being cheeky as he is, oh, 97 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: i'll do it, I'll do it. 98 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: So he stripped down. 99 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: You know, you could see well you couldn't see everything, 100 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: but there were grapes used to cover his bits and bobs, 101 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: and they, yeah, all the men were forced to draw him. 102 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: Angie and Eve had to draw him. But I remember 103 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: watching it and I was like, oh my god, can 104 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: you imagine if Abby to that. What music did they 105 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: have playing whilst this was all going on. I actually 106 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: can't remember, to be honest, I'm guessing it'd be joky, 107 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: fun music, not like a kind of porno music that 108 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: they would have had on for Abby. 109 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: Well, even if it. 110 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: Was porno music, I just think that the way people 111 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: view have viewed this situation is completely different. 112 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: If a woman was doing it. 113 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: And Abby Chatfield, who of course joined us last week 114 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: and who is an absolute legend. She took to Instagram 115 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: and she slammed the viewer's response saying it was a 116 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: double standard. And you know, she admitted, of course she 117 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: loves Kieran and she thought it was hilarious and very 118 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: cheeky of him. But she said, can you imagine if 119 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: I had done this pose naked with fruit covering two 120 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: percent of my body? And she shared a photo of 121 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 1: her where she had recreated the shot of her actually 122 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: having grapes over her private parts, and it did it 123 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: just screamed absolute hypocrisy. People were putting little fire emojis 124 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: and saying how HoTT he was, But if this was 125 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: Abbi doing it, she would have been called a slut. Well, 126 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: it's not the first time the Bachelor franchise has come 127 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: on fire like this as well. The American series really 128 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: got people talking about the double standards. When Colton Underwood 129 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: it was called a liar for claiming that. 130 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: He was a virgin. 131 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: So, just to put it in perspective, if you don't know, 132 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: Colton is twenty six years old. He was a former footballer, 133 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: very good looking, and people just couldn't wrap their heads 134 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: around the fact that he was waiting for someone he 135 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: loved to lose his virginity too, and it was made. 136 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: Such a butt of every joke. Yeah, on the show. 137 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel actually said on his show, they put up 138 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: a big picture of him, and he said, I mean. 139 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: Look at that. That's not a virgin. 140 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: So it's kind of playing on this ideology that as 141 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: a man, if you're attractive and you've got a lot 142 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: going for you, then you're a bit of a loser 143 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: or a liar about being a virgin. But it's funny 144 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: when you look at how women are portrayed that are 145 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: overtly sexual on shows like The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. 146 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: I mean, in America, they had another scandal with a 147 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: bachelorette called Caitlyn. 148 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: I actually didn't see this series. Oh my gosh. 149 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: It sounded like an absolute ripper. So her series was 150 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: quite scandalous because a former Bachelor contestant called Nick Vile 151 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: was on there, so he'd already been in is. 152 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: He the blonde guy that kept going on there? And 153 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: so I hated him, so he first got rejected. 154 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: I can't remember who the bachelorette was, and then he 155 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: basically was talking to this Caitlin before the show started, 156 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: so they gave him the opportunity to be one of 157 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: the contestants. So they already had a pre existing kind 158 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: of flirty relationship, a bit like Angie and the dog 159 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: loving guy that's been brought in anyway, So what happened 160 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: is she actually had sex with Nick after one of 161 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: their dates. And this wasn't a fantasy sweet date or 162 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: anything like this. This was quite early on and she 163 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: was absolutely slut shamed by the American public. She received 164 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: death threats and they read out some of the messages 165 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: on one of the final rowse episodes and it was, 166 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, it was all a bit awkward because 167 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: they're basically sitting there calling her a slut. So it's like, basically, 168 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: if you're two, you're early sexual, and you're a woman, 169 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: you're a slut. And if you're a man and you're 170 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: a virgin, then you're a loser. That's what the Bachelor 171 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: franchise says. Well, Colton's virginity had been mentioned over forty 172 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: times in just four episodes, and as you say, did 173 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: become a joke with host Chris Harrison saying his job 174 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: this season is to ensure the Underwood doesn't leave the 175 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: show a virgin. Can you imagine if there was a 176 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: woman Bachelorette and they were saying the same things about her. 177 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: Back to Kieran from the Bachelorette, if you do compare 178 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: his portrayal and Abby's, it makes things really interesting. So 179 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: Kieran is a fan favorite. Everybody loves the guy. I 180 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: love him, I love his accent. I think he's really cool. 181 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: He shows his individual style. He's dropped some pretty big 182 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: bombs to Angie. He's told Angie that he used to 183 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: be a dancer in a gay club in Darwin, so 184 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: he would strip down to his G string and dance 185 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: and whatever. That's totally cool if that's what you want 186 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: to do. But think about other times when the women 187 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: have revealed that they were once working in the strip club, 188 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: they have been absolutely vilified online. Yeah, well, there's definitely 189 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: a lot of double standards at play, and it does 190 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: reflect the broader community's ideologies on these things as well. 191 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: In theory, a. 192 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Vacation with close friends known as a friendation, sounds like 193 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: a great idea, But while you might enjoy someone's company 194 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: over dinner on the netball court or at UNI. A 195 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: getaway with the same person could be a recipe for disaster. 196 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: Experts say friendcations are on the rise with the popularity 197 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: driven by social media. 198 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: Amy. 199 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: Have you had a disastrous friendation that you'd like to share? 200 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: I have had a disastrous frindication that I mean, we 201 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: were still friends after it. But it's so true when 202 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: people tell you that a holiday can make or break 203 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: your friendship, it is one hundred percentury. So I went 204 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: on a friend what is it a friend frindication And 205 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: it was just a simple trip to Melbourne. 206 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: And so some of the friends handled all the booking. 207 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: We ended up staying with half the girls in one 208 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: room and then the other half weare in another room. 209 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: That's when trouble's always going to start, when there's that 210 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: bitchy division and you're going back to the rooms too, 211 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: you know. 212 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: And so the. 213 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: Divide did start early because the girls that were in 214 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: my room we all sort of did holidays the same way. 215 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: We like to have a little bit of a sleepin. 216 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: We like to actually eat the food that was out 217 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: in the restaurants at the place, whereas the other two 218 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: girls like to get up super early, and they woke 219 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: everybody up. And then they also packed their own food 220 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: for a trip from Adelaide to Melbourne. So, to put 221 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: this in perspective, these girls packed two minute noodles in 222 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: their suitcase for a holiday from Adelaide to Melbourne, which 223 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: arguably has some of the best food in the country. 224 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if it counts, but I was dumped 225 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: after an overseas trip. That's pretty offensive. It was quite 226 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: offensive because I just thought to myself, I'm going to 227 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: be me. I'm going to take as long as I 228 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: usually take to put my makeup on, to dry my hair. 229 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: Look, I'm to. 230 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: Be honest, I'm not surprised he might have got a 231 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: little bit of annoyed at the time you take to 232 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: get ready. He said it was fine, he was just 233 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: watching TV the whole time. I thought he was having 234 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: a fine time. But I mean to be fair, he 235 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: didn't say he broke up with me because of the holiday. 236 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: But you know, it could could have. 237 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: Done some damage. Nail in the coffin. 238 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, Oh well, you're better off without him anyway. Well. 239 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: I can definitely see the appeal of a friendation, though, 240 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: when you've you know, for our thirtieth birthday, we went 241 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: away with a big group to Bali and had an 242 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: incredible time. So if you've got the right mix, it's good. 243 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: And traveler experts are saying that the popularity of these 244 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: friendations is being driven by social media, because you know, 245 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: everyone's posting these images of these huge groups having an 246 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: incredible time. But I mean, sometimes the picture isn't a 247 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: true indication of the reality. 248 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: Going on on the trip, though, is it. No, it's not. 249 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: Well, there are some tips from travel experts that I've 250 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: found quite helpful to help you navigate your future. Plan 251 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: today soon so you don't have a holiday from hell. 252 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: That's right. 253 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: So I thought this was very spot on. Communication. Now 254 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: that might sound simple, but I feel like communication is 255 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: key when planning a holiday. You've got to make sure 256 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: that you're all on the same page about what you 257 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: want to do on a holiday. 258 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: I also think it's I mean communica. 259 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: I suppose this fits under communication, but I've heard of 260 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: people who always get the dud room on a joint 261 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: holiday and that's made people not want to go. Yeah. 262 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: One of the tips on here is actually to work 263 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: out sleeping arrangements beforehand, so you know, if you're renting 264 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: an Airbnb and someone's got the most incredible room, well 265 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: they shouldn't have to pay as much because there's going 266 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: to be some deep seated resentment on that holiday, isn't there? Oh? 267 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: For sure? 268 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: What else is there? I was a bit umming and 269 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: yrying about this one. It says designate a leader, so 270 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: pick one decision maker who outlines the plans. I think 271 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: that is a recipe for disasterday. I don't like to 272 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: be dictated to by one person on a holiday. The 273 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: other one was don't overplan. I can't stand going on 274 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: a holiday where there's like a fucking highlighted itinery like 275 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: word for word. I did every every breath has a 276 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: time as a key to do it. 277 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: I did have a friend who their girlfriend. 278 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: Had every basically every hour put in of what they 279 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: were doing, and there was just no like, do we 280 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: have to schedule in fun? 281 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: Is that a thing? I think so? 282 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: Now moving on to the headlines that caught our attention 283 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: this week. This one's from ten Daily. This is how 284 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: I look. Georgia Love is tired of being body shamed 285 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: over her stomach. This one upset me on Monday. Georgia 286 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: Love hit social media to ask for strangers to stop 287 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: commenting on her stomach after followers began questioning whether or 288 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: not she was pregnant in a photo from a wedding 289 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: she attended with her fiancee Lee over the weekend, and 290 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: she wrote to everyone commenting on Lee's post last night, 291 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: no I am notgnant. No I haven't just eaten past 292 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: it or had a big lunch. This is how I look, 293 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: and I'm really, really sick of being made to feel 294 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: like it's not good enough, she wrote, It's so ridiculous. 295 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: Georgia Love looks amazing, and. 296 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 297 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: Is it because we spoke about this in another episode 298 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: about influencers who use all those face tuning apps to 299 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: change their body? Is it because we have such an 300 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: unrealistic view on how women actually look online that people 301 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: have jumped to the conclusion that Georgia Love must be pregnant. 302 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: I saw the photo. 303 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: She looked freaking amazing. Her dress was beautiful because I 304 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: skimmed through and I just saw the photo and I 305 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, what a beautiful photo. And then I 306 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: didn't actually read the caption and see what was unfolding online. 307 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: The thing that upset me about it was Georgia has 308 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: copped so much flak in the past. She said that 309 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: she you know, she opened up about her body body 310 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: shaming experience, and it made her throw out all of 311 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: her bikinis when photos. 312 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: Were published of her at the beach. 313 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: She says she only wears one pieces out now, just 314 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: in case someone snaps. 315 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: A photo of her. 316 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: And as we spoke about last week with Abby from 317 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: The Bachelor, I mean, clearly the photographers are trying to 318 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: take bad photos, bad photos cell and then all they 319 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: do is frame them. Oh, doesn't she look amazing to 320 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: incite this hate comment. Well, as we were saying last week, 321 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: it is just so damaging to women to hear that 322 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: this beautiful size eight woman is not good enough. I mean, 323 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: she's wearing this incredible black dress. I just think it's ridiculous. 324 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: This one's quite difficult to read, but I'll try my best. 325 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: It reads Visco girl, Where did and I OP and 326 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: sk sk sk come from? So before we get started, 327 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: I thought this one would appeal to you, Amy, because 328 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: you didn't realize what the term receipts meant. 329 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: So I thought I'd try and keep you up with the. 330 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: You know, young people lingo. 331 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: Oh, well, thank you. Good people. 332 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: Please comment on our most recent post and answer if 333 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: they knew what receipts? Men? 334 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: Am I just being old? I don't know. 335 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: Well, before I get into this article, do you know 336 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: what a Visco girl is? Well? 337 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: Is it something to do with an app? 338 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Well? Yes, the name comes from the photo editing app, 339 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: and a Visco girl is basically an online identity that's 340 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: risen out of apps like Instagram and TikTok. So it 341 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: refers to millennials and gen zetters who dress and act 342 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: in a way that is nearly indistinguishable from each other. 343 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: So it's your very basic teenager. The ones that wear 344 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: those big T shirts that you know cover the bottom 345 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: of their shorts, they'll probably be wearing Nikes underneath. I 346 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: think I can they can picture some of these. 347 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: I've got a Visco girl in my head. 348 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: They've also they also wear birkenstock sandals or some form 349 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: of ugly flat and they're described as the type who 350 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: spend twenty minutes making their messy bun look messy. So 351 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: you've got a real good mental picture in. 352 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: Your head for sure. 353 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,239 Speaker 1: And are they all sort of influences or aspiring influences 354 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: and assume their feeds just a little bit on point, 355 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: they would use. 356 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: Light room for their feeds. 357 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: Yes, So basically, these VISCO girls have also kind of 358 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: come up with their own language to express themselves. So 359 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: one of the most popular phrases, as I tried to 360 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: pronounce before, is sk sk sk and it's used to 361 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: express amazement, shock, or excitement. So it's it's kind of 362 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: like it's like a frantic button pressing, so your key 363 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: is like you're frantically pressing the keyboards and to be 364 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: like oh my god or laughing. So I'm gonna have 365 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: to start using Yeah, let's I'll start putting that under 366 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: yours instagrams that pop up just to look cool, just 367 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: to stay relevant. 368 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 369 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: And the other one, I'm probably pronouncing it wrong. It's 370 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: and I oop or and I op. I'm not quite 371 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: sure what does that even mean. I don't so it 372 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: was it also expresses shock and surprise and embarrassment apparently, 373 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: so similar to that's so it has roots in lbt LB. Sorry, 374 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: it actually has roots in LGBT black culture. So it 375 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: went viral after it was said by a drag queen 376 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: called Jasmine Masters in a twenty fifteen YouTube, and the 377 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: phrases used to imply that you had to stop speaking 378 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: mid sentence because you were so shocked oring pain. So 379 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: a lot of the Visco girls they're using it. For instance, 380 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: if like a photo of a really hot guy comes 381 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: up and they're just so taken back by his good looks, 382 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: so they'll be like, and I op or and I 383 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: whatever it is, Oh my god, I'm gonna have to 384 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: look at I've never seen these terms. This makes me 385 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: feel very old, very old. 386 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: Love it jabun. 387 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: We had to be someone had to explain to us 388 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: what I think it was. Skk r rt men, and 389 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: it's like. 390 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: Let's get it. I didn't know what I mean. Yeah, 391 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 2: let's get it. Like, let's get it, let's get it. 392 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: Well, I was trying to think back to words that 393 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: were popular when we were like nineteen, and all I 394 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: can think of is biddies. 395 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I made. 396 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: Binnies around tonight, but they probably what's the modern word 397 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: for that? Mic girls me bitches, I don't know. I 398 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: have no idea. Me babes. Actually, if you have any 399 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: other words that you've heard, comment them in our recent 400 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: Instagram post because we'd love to hear them and to 401 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: have them please translate them, because we clearly won't know. 402 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: We've hit thirty now. 403 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: And so we're officially old and I love it. 404 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: We're moving on to our new. 405 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: Topic, which is called the Reality Bible, and we're gonna 406 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: have a little look through our reality Bible and see 407 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: what's making news. Well, the first thing that's making news 408 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: today is we've been given a sneak peek at the 409 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: new series of Married at First Sight And this was 410 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: during nine's Upfront, which showcases what's happening next year, and 411 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: there were vision of two new brides that were shown 412 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: during the presentation, and it's even prompted Jewels from last 413 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: series to speak out about the contestants. So Jules told 414 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: New Idea that she's actually met a few of the 415 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: participants and she thinks the producers have yet again opted 416 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: for drama over love story surprise surprise. Isn't that what 417 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: last year was? 418 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: Like? What a surprise? Well, do you know what I 419 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: thought was interesting? 420 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: Because she said that she's met some of the contestants, 421 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: So I'm assuming they bring Cam and Jules back as 422 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: their sort of success story. So I'm guessing that's how 423 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: she's met them, and she went on to even label 424 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: some of the contestants as bullies. And she said that 425 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: she understands that the producers, of course need to spice 426 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: things up, but she suggested that maybe they should have 427 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: opted for a gay couple or even a trans participant 428 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: or something like that. But I feel like they've already 429 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: done tribally had the two gay guys that married each 430 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: other in New Zealand. But I mean, I feel like 431 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: a gay couple or transgender couple shouldn't be used as 432 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: a gimmick to spice things up either. 433 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: I thought as well. 434 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, of course it'd be fantastic, and you know, 435 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: we're all for equality here, But again, I feel like 436 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: it would have the decision would have been slammed by 437 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: the general public. Maybe the term spice it up probably 438 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: wasn't correct by her to use. Oh look, it was 439 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: from an NW article, so who knows what Jewels actually said. 440 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: She did come across as very lovely on the show. 441 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: Is it wrong that it's actually made me more excited 442 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: for next season? The fact that these people just seem 443 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: even more outrageous, Well, I mean, that's the recipe to 444 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: a good married at First Sight season you have a 445 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: few love stories. You have the people that are going 446 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: to hate each other, and you know, of course you're 447 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: going to have your couple that cheats on each other. 448 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: It's inevitable. 449 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: And I hear you've also got a bit of Love 450 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: Island goss for us. Oh, of course, I'm going to 451 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: take back what I said. I said when Love Island 452 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: first started it was a bit boring. It is getting 453 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: so much better. Unfortunately, the ratings aren't agreeing though. The 454 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: ratings have dropped quite dramatically, but I feel like everyone's 455 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: streaming online, so I don't know if those ratings actually 456 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: represent the amount of people watching. I spent my whole 457 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: weekend catching up on Love Island, and I am utterly obsessed. 458 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: Oh it's it's incredible. You've got to give it a go. 459 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like it's going to get even better. 460 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: So we spoke about this and another episode. The rumor 461 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: is about Jessica Power being brought onto the show. Well, 462 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: it looks like our speculation was. 463 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: One hundred percent true. 464 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: Fuck yes, So New Idea have released an article where 465 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: they've spoken to a source I'm guessing Jessica or one 466 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: of her friends, and apparently her hot brother. 467 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: Maybe. I don't know. 468 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't really want to refer to it as a 469 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: hot brother. He sounds like a bit of we won't 470 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: go into it, but I'm not a huge fan. But 471 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: according to Saurces, Jessica has been bragging about appearing on 472 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: the show, and she's even said that she's getting paid 473 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: a six figure sum to appear, which would explain why 474 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: they're staying in such a shitty villa. 475 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 2: I think they've blown all their budget on Jessica Powe. 476 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: Well, it'll be interesting to see if it does pick 477 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: up the audience figures or not, or if people are 478 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: just completely overhearing about her. 479 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. 480 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: I reckon it's going to be insane because I don't 481 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: know if everybody knows this. I feel like people do 482 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: know this already. Jessica's brother, So, as you said her 483 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: in quotations, hot brother used to date Vanessa, who's already 484 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: in the villa and Jessica, and let's just say, Jessica 485 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: and Vanessa. 486 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: Have had a boot of beef in the past. 487 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: So apparently jess has told people that she's absolutely itching 488 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: to get into the villa to confront Vanessa and I 489 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: for one. I am up for seeing this confrontation. She 490 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: said in an interview with Carlin Jackie Oh that Vanessa 491 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: has slagged her off on social media and that when 492 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: jess saw the Love Island promo come out, she was like, Oh, 493 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: that's why the social climbing is happening. So she's throwing 494 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: a bit of shade on Vanessa. Do you think that 495 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: Vanessa has used jess to get on the show, Well, probably, 496 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: It's been a rumor for a number of months now 497 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: that Jessica Power is going to be on there, so 498 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: perhaps that was her golden ticket in getting in there 499 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: and getting her Instagram fame that I'm sure she's most 500 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: likely after. If you do analyze the show, Vanessa has 501 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: been one of the sort of main characters in it. 502 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: She's been involved in a lot of storylines, so I 503 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: feel like they're setting her up to be quite a 504 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: big character. And it gets even juicier this rift between 505 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: Jessica and Vanessa because not only did Vanessa date Jessica's brother, 506 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: she also dated Dan, who of course Jessica was coupled 507 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: up with controversially, and another one of Jessica's ex boyfriends, 508 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: So it's kind of in fiveways. And also to add 509 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: Wilma to this amazing story. Adam, who is a bit 510 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: of a fan favorite, He's revealed that he actually knows 511 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: jess in the real world because wait for it, he's 512 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: friends with Dan and he's labeled her putred in an 513 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: interview with whom Vaccine. Oh well, we were saying last 514 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: week that Adam and Vanessa knew each other, so maybe 515 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: there's this mutual bottom between the pair of That's right. 516 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: There was an instan story that showed Vanessa and Adam 517 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: at a dinner together, so maybe that was when Vanessa 518 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: was going out with Dan. Maybe they were just like 519 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: leaders of the I Hate Jessica power fan club. 520 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 2: Well, do you know what I reckon? 521 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: They're going to bring her in soon, I think maybe 522 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: next week to try and get a boost in the ratings, 523 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: and she'll be sent on a date with Essa, with 524 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: Vanessa's partner who she's coupled up with, and she's going 525 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: to absolutely dish the dirt and it's going to go off. 526 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm wanting like a Mara scene, a scene like Anna 527 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: from Love Island UK. I want something like that. Well, 528 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: in more Love Island News, Sam who was booted from 529 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: the villa last week has come out dishing some interesting 530 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: goss and he's confirmed that all the cameras that are 531 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: actually visible in the villa, which surprised me a bit. 532 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: He also said they get all of their lif lunches 533 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: catered for, and that was something I did note that 534 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: was different to Love Island UK. Everyone always made jokes 535 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: that you never see the contestants eating in the house 536 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: and I did spot over the weekend bits of food 537 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: left on the table and meals, so that, yeah, that 538 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: was pretty funny that they actually are showing the Australians eating, 539 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: which is a good thing. Well, it's the same in 540 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: Love Island UK. I read that they also got their 541 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: meals catered for. They actually had a canteen set up 542 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: that dropped off the food and one of the contestants 543 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: said that the reason they don't show people eating is 544 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: just because it's such a horrible noise. It's like, ah, 545 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: and I suppose it's quite hard to edit if they've 546 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: got food on their plate and then it's disappearing and 547 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But I was really shocked about 548 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: the cameras because I thought it was sort of a 549 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: big brother set up and that's why. Especially Love Island UK, 550 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: they're also open and candid with what they say and 551 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: they're making out. 552 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: And I was really. 553 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: Shocked to hear that there are cameramen in there, well, 554 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: because you obviously know that there's producers, but that's a 555 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: bit different to someone holding a huge intrusive camera. 556 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 557 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: Well, Sam was saying that he could when there was 558 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: a big fight in the villa, he could hear it 559 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: the camera's turn and focus on this fight. Some other 560 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: interesting things I found out about Love Island UK in 561 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: Australia is the limit on drinks, so they're only allowed 562 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: to have two drinks max. Except in the first few weeks. 563 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: One of the contestants in the UK revealed that they're 564 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: allowed to have four or five drinks just to I 565 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: suppose help them get. 566 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: To know each other a little bit better. 567 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: And the other interesting thing I read was that contestants 568 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: are actually offered beauty treatments off camera, So there are 569 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: a few times in the UK where some of the 570 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: contestants hair color actually changed slightly and people picked it up. 571 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: But I think that's pretty good. 572 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: Remember when you used to watch Big Brother and you 573 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: just watch their regrowth grow bigger and bigger and bigger. 574 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: Well I also noticed that they'd always have different colored 575 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: shellac or sn s done, so some of us picked 576 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: up on it. What about have you heard they have 577 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: to get up at least by nine point thirty each 578 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: morning and they're woken up by the lights being turned 579 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: on and the saying good morning and whatnot. But they're 580 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: also unaware of what the actual time is, so they 581 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: while they have phoneans, the phones don't have a clock 582 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: on it. So the UK contestants were saying they were 583 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: trying to judge where the sun hit as to what 584 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: time of the day it was. It would be really disorientating. Well, 585 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: that's all we've got time for. Thank you so much 586 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: for joining us. If you'd like to continue the conversation, 587 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: please follow us on Instagram at Outspoken Underscore the Underscore Podcast. 588 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: We're also on Facebook by the same name. And if 589 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: you could please share a post of you listening to 590 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: this on your Insta story, we love to see those. 591 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: And also if you'd like to give us a rating 592 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: probably five stars, that would be amazing and it helps 593 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: us so much. Yeah, I absolutely love seeing the Instagram 594 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: stories this week. It was incredible to see. So if 595 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: you can We would love to see where you're listening from. Again, 596 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: my favorite is the beautiful shots of the beach or 597 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: the walking tracks. They're always nice and thanks so much 598 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: for joining us.