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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Now, usually we see our next guest renovating a home

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Speaker 2: or judging others renovating homes on TV, but this time

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Speaker 2: in a very different context. Shana Blaze is behind the

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Speaker 2: scenes as the executive producer of a new film called

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Speaker 2: The Fort. The film narrows in on the harrowing reality

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Speaker 2: of domestic violence. It's something very dear to her heart,

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Speaker 2: and she joins us now to tell us more about it. Hello, Shana,

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Speaker 2: good morning.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I've spoken to you both.

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Speaker 2: Your house, Yes, well that's right now. You revealed on

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Speaker 2: Celebrity Apprentice last year, which you won, Congratulations, that you'd

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Speaker 2: experienced domestic violence in your life, so this is a

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Speaker 2: very important topic for you.

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Speaker 1: Look, it wasn't something that we set out to do.

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Speaker 1: It was more starting as filmmakers. My kids. This is

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Speaker 1: their movie and it doesn't represent my life, but it

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Speaker 1: represents people that have been through this. There's so many

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Speaker 1: stories is in this with coercive control of different types

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Speaker 1: of what domestic violence is. A lot of people think

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Speaker 1: it's just about the physical abuse. So it shows the patterns,

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Speaker 1: that shows all these different nuances that we think are

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Speaker 1: just normal in a relationship that leads to patterns that

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Speaker 1: becomes something more. And I'm so proud of my kids

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Speaker 1: for creating this and the amount of research that's gone

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Speaker 1: into it and the connections that we've had since with

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Speaker 1: the police and government and people working in the sector.

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Speaker 1: They say, this is pretty damn true to what it

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Speaker 1: is and everyone should see it to actually realize what

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Speaker 1: goes on behind closed doors, and what goes on behind

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Speaker 1: closed doors is we all think it's no one's else's business.

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Speaker 3: Well in the old days is to say it's just

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Speaker 3: a domestic it's not our business. Yeah, yeah, your son, Jess.

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Speaker 3: He plays the abusive dad in this, Graham and g I,

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Speaker 3: what do you say. I've seen him when you guys

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Speaker 3: were renovating your house in queue there. He's Wow, he's

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Speaker 3: quite scary, you know what.

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Speaker 1: And I think the thing is like in real life

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Speaker 1: he is the most gentle, kind of sweetest person. So

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Speaker 1: to see him on the street, I can detact myself

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Speaker 1: in going that's not him. But when we were filming,

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Speaker 1: the amount of times we'd go he'd come off and

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Speaker 1: I go, I really don't like you. I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: Sh Yeah, we'll show The film's called the Fort because

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Speaker 2: that is the escape that the mother and son used.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about the tactic that they use to survive.

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Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, the mother makes a tempt because

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Speaker 1: she sees her son, you know, hiding his play and

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like he can really sort of be himself.

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Speaker 1: So she creates this big tent and it becomes this

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Speaker 1: fantasy portal between the two of them that he invites

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Speaker 1: the mum into it, and then they go on these

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Speaker 1: little journeys and really there are a little mess messages

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Speaker 1: within there to help them leave and to look at

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Speaker 1: ways that they can build strengths and get away from

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Speaker 1: the violence that's in the home.

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Speaker 3: I must say this ford is very stylish. Only you

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Speaker 3: could design such a fort when I was a kidnamed

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Speaker 3: make a ford and just be out of lounge cushions.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you can see in it. It is

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Speaker 1: just a couple of pieces of timber, it's a bit

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Speaker 1: of calico, and it's some fairy lights. That's literally it.

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Speaker 1: So it's the imagination that takes it to the next space.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got a boho vibe about it.

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Speaker 2: Jonesie wanted to move in.

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Speaker 3: I thought that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: The thing was like in the movie that there is

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Speaker 1: a line where, you know, the the sab bric of

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Speaker 1: it was, you know, left over fabric from the curtains. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's actually quite true because I actually made our curtains

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Speaker 1: out of calico when they were children because we had

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Speaker 1: no money.

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Speaker 2: Well, shanea congratulations, because it's not easy to step out

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Speaker 2: of the box that people want to put you in

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Speaker 2: in television and say, actually, this is something that's really

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Speaker 2: close to my heart and it is. It is dark,

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Speaker 2: and it is hard to watch, but it is extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing is that we've got a screening

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Speaker 1: at the End of Life Channel that we filmed and

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Speaker 1: it is there to give people that little bit of

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Speaker 1: breath but to realize that as a society, there are

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Speaker 1: changes we have to make and that's the only way

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Speaker 1: we can stop the cycle of violence. So there's these

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Speaker 1: little tools that we give people in the fact that

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Speaker 1: you know, you can walk out tomorrow and make a

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Speaker 1: change in your behavior and look at other people's behavior

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Speaker 1: and stop looking at domestic violence as someone else's problem,

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Speaker 1: because it is our problems of society and that's the

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Speaker 1: only way we're going to stamp it out.

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Speaker 3: True, it's not just a domestic shanea thank you for

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Speaker 3: joining us before. It is screening in cinemas on the

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Speaker 3: eighteenth of June, and we look forward to seeing you

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Speaker 3: back on the block again.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes, well, you know we've only got a

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Speaker 1: few more weeks filming, so it's as always, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a big one of course.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Shane.

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Speaker 3: A lot to love with you. Then, Jana, thank you

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Speaker 3: very much.