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Speaker 1: My name's Atasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations woman

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Speaker 1: and I'm here to acknowledge country. Te Glenn Young Ganya, Niana,

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Speaker 1: Kaka yah y and beIN ah Waka Nia and our

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Speaker 1: Waka Ghana on yak rum Jar Water Nadaa. Hello, beautiful friends,

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Speaker 1: we gather on the lands of the Aboriginal people. We

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Speaker 1: gathering on today. Take pleasure in all the land and

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Speaker 1: respect all that you see. She's on the Money podcast

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Speaker 1: acknowledges culture, country, community and connections, bringing you the tools,

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Speaker 1: knowledge and resources for you to thrive.

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Speaker 2: She's on the Money.

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Speaker 3: She's on the Money. Hello and welcome to She's on

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Speaker 3: the Money the podcast, but makest Personal Fine is fun,

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Speaker 3: especially on Fridays. It's our favorite day of the week

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Speaker 3: because it's when we get the team together and we

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Speaker 3: get to celebrate you be incredible. She's on the Money

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Speaker 3: Community today. Victoria is away on maternity leave. So again

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Speaker 3: it's Jesse Ricky taking the reins, joined us always by

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Speaker 3: the gorgeous back, said.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, of course you are so welcome. Today don't stress

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Speaker 3: because I will still be sharing my favorite community money.

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Speaker 3: Wins Beck will of course be sharing her best broke tips.

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Speaker 3: And this Sunday it is International Women's Day and the

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Speaker 3: theme this year is balance the scales or something that

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Speaker 3: we are definitely all about here. She's on the money,

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Speaker 3: so we've picked some community dilemmas to answer that kind

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Speaker 3: of fit within this theme. First, you'll be helping to

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Speaker 3: answer a money dilemma that asked the question is a

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Speaker 3: better salary and paid maternity leave worth the payoff for

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Speaker 3: zero flexibility when you have kids? And a DM that

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Speaker 3: asks the really tough question, what do you do when

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Speaker 3: you think you're seeing financial control in a friends relationship

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Speaker 3: from the outside. That's a tough one.

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Speaker 4: That's tough. That sounds like it's going to be good though,

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Speaker 4: I have to say about that absolutely. But before we

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Speaker 4: get into it, should we start the show with some

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Speaker 4: five star love.

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Speaker 3: Oh? I think that's the perfect way to start Gorgeous

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Speaker 3: and this week I've got a five star review from Belinda,

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Speaker 3: who said this pod is life changing. I discovered she's

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Speaker 3: on the money after becoming a single mum and taking

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Speaker 3: on a mortgage by myself while working full time and

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Speaker 3: raising my very young children. The thought of being financially

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Speaker 3: responsible for everything was overwhelming, to say the very least,

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Speaker 3: and I knew nothing about investing. Victoria has been the

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Speaker 3: Thank you, she's on the money team. My god, that

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Speaker 3: is so cool. Well, good on you. Yeah, it's incredible.

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Speaker 3: You should be so proud of yourself, Blenda. It's really

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Speaker 3: tough out there, totally the single mums, and you know,

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Speaker 3: even just keeping your head above water yea is more

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Speaker 3: than enough. But it sounds like you are absolutely kicking goal.

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Speaker 4: So arriving.

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Speaker 3: We couldn't be proud of So proud of you.

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Speaker 4: I think we should move into the Question of the week,

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Speaker 4: which is my favorite part.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I love this part.

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Speaker 4: It's time for that part of Friday Drinks where you

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Speaker 4: get to ask us one question of dying to know

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Speaker 4: it can be about literally anything. So this week's question

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Speaker 4: comes from Nicole, who wants to know what is your

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Speaker 3: I don't have an answer to this one.

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Speaker 4: You go for ventriloquism. I'm really, really, really good at ventriloquism,

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Speaker 4: I don't have a puppet, though I really should get

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Speaker 4: I should invest in a puppet. I'm shocked by how

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Speaker 3: I'm very impressed. The water bottled talk right now, this

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Speaker 3: A questions, mister water bottle. How is your debt?

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Speaker 3: Thanks, that's actually quite good. They're good. Someone's going to

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Speaker 3: not a twitch in the muscle anyway. That's so interesting.

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Speaker 3: can't care. I mean, can you flip your tongue or anything? No,

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Speaker 3: I can't do any of those things. You know, a

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Speaker 3: I say, aps frecolutely. That's going to get me every

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Speaker 3: time I tell you that right now? Absolutely, yeah, No,

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Speaker 3: I fear. I'm just the cheerleader. Somebody is doing something

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Speaker 3: the last trick. I'm so sorry. If everybody else has

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Speaker 3: a fun party trick, we'd love to hear it. Leave

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Speaker 3: us a little comment on Spotify, and if you've got

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Speaker 3: hoping Apple podcasts will get around it. People sometimes ask

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Speaker 4: To be speaking of do you have any money?

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Speaker 3: Tips? Money segue you I said it wrong though it's

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. Was smooth and nobody would have noticed.

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Speaker 3: And I absolutely do have some for you. Firstly, I

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Speaker 3: she was rejouggling the finances. Turns out he was paying

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to setting up my kindle or something,

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Speaker 3: And if you've got Prime on both of those accounts,

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Speaker 3: like Lindall's partner was, you'll be paying double Oh cheeky.

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Speaker 3: I don't like that. No, so she sent off an

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Speaker 3: Oh that's so good, very good. So just double check

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Speaker 3: this way, we say review what's going out, because if

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Speaker 3: you're doubling up, you might not even know totally. Next,

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Speaker 3: I've got a money win from Meghan, who said she

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Speaker 3: Oh my gongratulations. That's such a good feeling.

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Speaker 4: It really is so huge congratulations, It's so exciting.

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Speaker 3: It's so epic. Equally exciting. I've got one from Monique

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Speaker 3: that decided she was worth more than putting herself in

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Speaker 3: Big snaps for you, Monique. That's amazing, amazing. Then it

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Speaker 3: pains me to say this. I've got a win from

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Speaker 3: Productive Chipmunk three to three nine. And guys, this is

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Speaker 3: a little PSA because I used to run the Facebook group.

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Speaker 3: I don't do any more. Chara does it. She's wonderful.

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Speaker 3: We have anonymous posting turned off because we believe that

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Speaker 3: if we want to create open conversations about finances, anonymous

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Speaker 3: posting is on an option. However, Facebook has changed the

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Speaker 3: rules so that people can comment with nicknames. I see

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Speaker 3: we can't turn that off, much to my chagrin, and

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Speaker 3: I really don't like it because I don't know why

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Speaker 3: people are feeling the need to put their comments, especially

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Speaker 3: on a Money Wins threat. I can understand sometimes something

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Speaker 3: Sure the productive Chipmunk three to three min. I am saying,

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Speaker 3: I got a twenty four K bonus last week, and

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Speaker 3: I think, girl, put your name behind that.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: So I'm drawing a line in the sand everybody, because

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Speaker 3: I really don't like the nicknames, because I want to

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Speaker 3: be able to celebrate you. I will no longer be

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Speaker 3: reading money Wins, but don't have a name attached to them.

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Speaker 5: I've put down.

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Speaker 3: I can't do it because I'm scrolling and I'm scrolling

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Speaker 3: this is we recognize a lot of your names, especially

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Speaker 3: the people who comment and interact a lot like I

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Speaker 3: I don't know you, but I understand this is my

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Speaker 3: no more nicknames. I mean you can post with one,

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Speaker 3: information what you were Wow twenty twenty six. You is

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Speaker 3: You knew me truly. And then lastly this week, I've

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Speaker 3: with the saving on pet food gorgeous. I'm going to say,

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Speaker 3: you came out in the wash. Absolutely, it all comes

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Speaker 3: out of the wash, and I really want to road

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Speaker 3: pep tad lip treatment. I'm resisting the it for me

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Speaker 4: I do, And I just want to say, if you

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Speaker 4: do have a nickname, I will read it, but I

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Speaker 4: am supporting your course.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: This is the other thing I'm worried about is that

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Speaker 4: some people's names sound like nicknames and you never know.

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Speaker 4: You never know which one's do you know?

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Speaker 3: Because they give them a silly little animal cartoon for

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Speaker 3: their true as well from a mile away snip it out. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you've been cheeky.

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Speaker 3: So my brogue tips for this week.

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Speaker 4: First one comes from Amanda, who says, I called my

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Speaker 4: car insurance I'm on maternity leave now. I lowered my

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Speaker 4: annual kilometers and updated the policy to not include travel

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Speaker 4: to work. Save two hundred dollars on my annual premium. Gorgeous.

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Speaker 4: And then the next one comes from Kate, who says,

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Speaker 4: there are so many good TV shows and movies on

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Speaker 4: the free streaming platforms SBS on Demand and ABC iView.

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Speaker 4: I can not agree more. We haven't had a streaming

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Speaker 4: service for ages and tend to only now get them

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Speaker 4: when we get offered a deal so we can watch

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Speaker 4: specific shows. That's a great idea. Yeah, And isn't there

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Speaker 4: like seven plus and nine now?

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Speaker 5: Wow?

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Speaker 3: I think you might get ads on those so fine?

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Speaker 5: Hi, girls, love the pot. I have a bit of

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: I actually, and I could be wrong, but I gathered

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Speaker 4: And so I think you should leave this no flexibility job. Also,

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Speaker 4: be there. Because it's the fact that she's not going

436
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,480
Speaker 4: back to school in that there's something she really wants

437
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 4: to do, I get a sense that there might be

438
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 4: a little bit of fear there where there's control, There

439
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,760
Speaker 4: might be a little bit of maybe she's not scared.

440
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 4: But I just think if I really want to do

441
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,200
Speaker 4: something and someone didn't quote unquote let me, it might

442
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,280
Speaker 4: be because I'm either afraid of them or I just

443
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 4: don't want the whole drama of it all. Yeah, like

444
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,879
Speaker 4: you're walking on eggs, walking on eggshells a little bit

445
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 4: in which case. It doesn't sound like it's going to

446
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,639
Speaker 4: be a quick and easy like realization and then fix,

447
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 4: you know, so I think you shouldn't mention it in

448
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 4: a very gentle way that is free of judgment, and

449
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 4: in a way that I know it's a really hard

450
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,120
Speaker 4: thing to balance. But when you're trying to tell your friend,

451
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 4: or when someone's trying to tell you something about the

452
00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,400
Speaker 4: person you are married to or in love with or whatever,

453
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 4: you might get defensive. So try and do it in

454
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 4: this way that will stop her from feeling the defensiveness

455
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 4: because you are on both sides, even if it's made up,

456
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 4: even if you have to pretend you're on both sides

457
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 4: for now, Do it in this way where it's a

458
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 4: level playing field. You're on everyone's side and you love

459
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 4: everyone and you're just kind of noticing some of these things.

460
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 4: Deliver it gently, and then stay by her side no

461
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 4: matter what. But yeah, it's a really tricky one. It

462
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 4: does sound like maybe financial abuse, would you say.

463
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 3: I completely agree. I think it's a huge red flag

464
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 3: to me, and I think sometimes people who are in

465
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 3: those situations or in those relationships might not clock the

466
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 3: red flag as clearly as somebody who is on the

467
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 3: outside cam, especially if you know coercive control and things

468
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 3: like that. More often than not scale up. It starts

469
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 3: with small things. It starts with, oh, I prefer you

470
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 3: wouldn't go out because I wanted to go out, or

471
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 3: oh I wanted you to be home in case, you know,

472
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 3: and then it scales up to well, I don't want

473
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,479
Speaker 3: you seeing your friends, or you need to be at

474
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 3: home with the child or whatever that looks like. Those

475
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 3: things generally start small and build up. Yeah, it's like

476
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 3: the what is the saying the crab in the pot,

477
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: something frog in the pot, the frog in the pot

478
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 3: that doesn't know the heat that is turning up, and

479
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 3: they don't realize that these things that are happening are

480
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 3: not normal, are not acceptable. I think it is very

481
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 3: much in the phrasing like financial abuse is not a

482
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,479
Speaker 3: light accusation to make, and I think it is all

483
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 3: in how the situations panned out. I think it's one

484
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 3: thing if there was a conversation around, we can't afford

485
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 3: this right now because the bills are really high, this,

486
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 3: that and the other is it something we could look into,

487
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 3: And then there's you know, a whole conversation around well,

488
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 3: if the male partner's priorities are being men, his job

489
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 3: and his life, and whatever is being satisfied in the

490
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 3: female partners not. That's a whole different conversation. Yes, but

491
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 3: I think exactly as you said the term letting your partner,

492
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: nobody needs to let you do anything. No, Like I

493
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 3: can understand if you look at a broad picture and go, oh,

494
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 3: as much as I want to go back to school

495
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: right now, financially it just would be really hard. That's

496
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 3: a completely different scenario to me to someone just saying well,

497
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to change my life so too bad,

498
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,719
Speaker 3: like make it work. Yeah, I will say there are

499
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: other options available to her if she doesn't want to

500
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 3: leave her job. She could look at a night school potentially,

501
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 3: or short courses or things that she could do around it.

502
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: If she's not in a place where she does feel

503
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 3: ready to have this confrontation but does want to make

504
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 3: those steps for herself, I think it's important for her

505
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 3: to feel empowered and to feel like she can do

506
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 3: the things that she wants, because her wants and needs

507
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: are very important, and she needs to know that. Going

508
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 3: purely off what has been provided to us by our listener,

509
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 3: I will say exactly as you said. It sounds like

510
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 3: there is an element of controller abuse, especially with the

511
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: imbalance in finances. Like that's another thing that I'm not

512
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 3: really understanding. I'm fine for people to have separate finances

513
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: my partner and I do, but why is he keeping

514
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 3: the majority of the money. Just a lot of things

515
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: are not adding up to me and I think that, yeah,

516
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: sitting her down gently, kind of talking to her about it,

517
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: just playing it out a little bit, I think, and saying, hey, like,

518
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: what is the reasoning for this? Because from my perspective,

519
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: like it just doesn't make the most sense that you're

520
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: not pulling money towards things, or that he earns more.

521
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: Why not give you the opportunity to increase your earning

522
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: potential by studying or have you considered studying part time?

523
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: What did he say? Tease it out a little bit

524
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 3: and see where it goes, because I think you were

525
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 3: so on the money when you said people can get

526
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: defensive with things like this. Also, you know, maybe just

527
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: sharing some resources. I think as well, because it's very nuanced,

528
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: financial control can coercive control. It's really difficult, and sometimes

529
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 3: people need to see things in their own time as well.

530
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: It maybe that as much as right now. For you

531
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 3: and I, this is a huge red flag, and we

532
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 3: say leave him, screw him, you don't need him. If

533
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 3: somebody's not in the place to do that, they need time,

534
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: they need other things, and that's also okay. You can

535
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: lead a horse to water, but you can only do

536
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 3: so much from the outside, and so it's important that

537
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: they feel supported. I think it's important that they have

538
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 3: access to resources that they can look at in their

539
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: own time, and the one that we would recommend is

540
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: one eight hundred Respect. You can call them. They have

541
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: a really fantastic website as well with lots of resources,

542
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 3: and if you or anyone you know needs any kind

543
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: of support, I would strongly encourage you or them to

544
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: take a look at what they have on offer. But

545
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 3: it is a really tough situation because I think things

546
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: aren't always what they seem from the outside, and I

547
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: want to take it with a grain of positivity. But also,

548
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: if I'm honest, flag is fluorescent red right like it's

549
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 3: totally bright Crimson. We'll put a link in the show

550
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: notes below to one hundred RESPECT and all of their

551
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 3: resources as well if anybody would like to access those.

552
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: But we did also put it out to the community

553
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 3: to see what everybody else thought. We did ask a

554
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: couple of questions. So firstly, we said, what would you

555
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: do if you were our community member. Twenty six percent

556
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 3: of people said they would call it out directly, sixty

557
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 3: six percent of people said they would plan to the

558
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 3: seed gently, four percent of people said they'd wait till

559
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 3: they were asked about it, and four percent of people

560
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 3: said they would stay out of it completely. Okay, Next

561
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: we said, what are your thoughts on what is happening

562
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: to the friend? Forty seven percent of people said this

563
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: is definitely financial control, forty eight percent of people so

564
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: unbelievably close, said it's a red flag, but I don't

565
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: quite know what to call it, and five percent of

566
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: people says it is up to your friend to decide

567
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: then kay. We obviously said what is your two cents?

568
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 3: What do you think? And we got a lot, a lot,

569
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: a lot of messages and feedback. The first one said

570
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: I'd hate to see her retirement fund compared to his

571
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: being visible costs of motherhood strike once again, Yes, which

572
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: is extremely true, so true, I was sinking the same thing, yeah,

573
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: and maybe something worth raising with her as well. Is

574
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 3: I think women are often put so behind when they

575
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: take time out of the workforce. There's all of those

576
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: long term impacts to your super fund, even to your

577
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: ability to then apply for more senior roles or pay rises.

578
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: There's a lot of prejudice that exists against mothers particularly

579
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: that is working against us constantly, and so that is

580
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 3: also something that I feel like needs to kind of

581
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: be factored into these kinds of decisions. Again, there's no

582
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: right or wrong, but it's something that I think is

583
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: really critical that people at least consider totally. Next, we've

584
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: got one that came through in four parts. They said,

585
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 3: this is financial abuse, but you need to tread lightly,

586
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: as this isn't the only abuse happening. With any abuse victims,

587
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: It's important to plant seeds gently and ask questions slowly.

588
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: Always be a safe, non judgmental space for them to

589
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: vent or run to. It will likely take years for

590
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 3: her to release, and then longer for her to leave

591
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 3: if she even can. Yes, which I feel like echoes

592
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: a lot of what you were saying.

593
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: Yes, completely agree, very true.

594
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: Somebody said keep some notes of things that your friend

595
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: tells you she'll need them for a family law affidavit

596
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: one day. True, it sounds like it's coming from somebody

597
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: with a bit of experience. Someone else has said, my

598
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 3: dad similarly did this to my mum. They're now getting

599
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: a divorce. Bro needed a reality check. Somebody says he

600
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: wants her exactly where he has her. She is his employee.

601
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's so true. That's what it sounds like.

602
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: Money aside, if she was really excited to go back

603
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: to school, that's super heartbreaking. I think this happens way

604
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: more than people think. Somebody said in role she doesn't

605
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: need permission for her life. Yeah, somebody said I've been there.

606
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: The most helpful friends called it out gently. For example,

607
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 3: I would not feel okay about that, which I think

608
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: is very helpful because we were kind of struggling to

609
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: put into words a little bit. I think, well, I

610
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: was going to ask you, like, what would you say

611
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 3: if a friend of yours was in this situation they

612
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: told you this exact story, what would you say to them? Specifically?

613
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: I would say something similar to this, like the eye

614
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: would not feel okay about that, But I do think

615
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: that like sometimes in that situation, you can kind of

616
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: tell yourself, especially if your partner is saying something so nonchalantly,

617
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 4: something that's really a red flag in this way that

618
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 4: is like not a big deal, so casual, so casually,

619
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 4: and then you were like, oh, that must be really

620
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 4: really normal, I must be really sensitive, or like this

621
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 4: is a very reasonable thing to.

622
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: It really is.

623
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 4: And so if you say something very similar to this

624
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 4: where it's I would not feel okay about that, or

625
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 4: I would just be asking questions like is that something

626
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: you really wanted to do? And are there any other

627
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 4: situations where you feel like you want to do something

628
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 4: that you're not maybe like quote unquote allowed to, or

629
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 4: you have to maybe like ask for missions for stuff,

630
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 4: and then just kind of like gently lead it into

631
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: this way where it's like how does that make you feel?

632
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 4: And if they kind of open up about like feeling like, oh,

633
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 4: I just think I'm being silly, then grab onto that

634
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: and say you are not silly and just like make

635
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 4: them feel hurt. So I think, yeah, it's it really

636
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: depends on the person you're talking to, depends on so

637
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 4: many things, but starting small, starting gently, the great's to start.

638
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: I really like that phrase that I would not feel

639
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: okay about that. Yeah, definitely you're not putting it on

640
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: them and saying they're making a bad choice. But you're

641
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: exactly You're just expressing your own feelings. I thought that

642
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: was really helpful, practical suggestion. I've just got two more.

643
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: One person said, I'm so angry we give up career advancement, income,

644
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: super and our time yep, and it's just taken for granted.

645
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: And then lastly, I have someone who said, I work

646
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: in DF. It is financial control and it's insidious and

647
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: it can lead to much worse. Please call it out. Yes,

648
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: And I think that's the overall thing. We've only got

649
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: a very small amount of information. But if us and

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Speaker 3: so many people in our community were looking at this

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Speaker 3: and going this is a problem. Yeah, I think as

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Speaker 3: a friend, it definitely is your responsibility to at least

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Speaker 3: try to bring the conversation to the forefront and then

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Speaker 3: support your friend in whatever way she needs, Knowing she

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Speaker 3: may be ready to make a choice, she may not,

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Speaker 3: and all you can do is try to help encourage

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Speaker 3: her to pursue her dreams, encourage her to have what

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Speaker 3: she wants because she deserves that too. And yeah, when

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Speaker 3: all those fails really rely on those resources. At one

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Speaker 3: eight hundred, respect again, we'll put that in the show notes.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, International Women's Day is about really

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Speaker 3: highlighting all of the gaps and the struggles and all

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Speaker 3: of the progress and the wonderful things that we are

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Speaker 3: heart that so many people replied to a message like

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Speaker 3: this and said I've had this experience, my friend has

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Speaker 3: had this experience, and you know, it gives me a

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Speaker 3: lot of hope that this podcast is bringing people together

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Speaker 3: and hopefully making a change in a small way, because

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Speaker 3: I think that you know, as much as the pink

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Speaker 3: cupcakes and the whatever that we see, we're all out

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Speaker 3: at this time of year, I think like this practical

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Speaker 3: stuff like women looking out for women. Yeah, like that's

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Speaker 3: what it's about to me. And I'm so grateful for

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Speaker 3: everyone who shared their opinion, and I'm sending all of

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Speaker 3: my love and my thoughts to you know, this person

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Speaker 4: Beautifully said I feel exactly the same way I think,

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Speaker 4: And it's definitely like such a I mean, it's always

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Speaker 4: International Women's Day. So I'm really glad that we read

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Speaker 3: Please keep us posted.

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Speaker 4: I really love to know how it all goes with

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Speaker 4: your friend, and sounds like you're a really good friend,

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Speaker 4: so absolutely very well done.

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Speaker 3: To you as well. Yeah, and with that, I think

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Speaker 3: that's it for the episode. You guys, happy almost into

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Speaker 3: Women's Day. Tell a woman you love them, Tell a

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Speaker 3: they're doing online as well. There's lots going on, but

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us. If you haven't already,

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