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Speaker 1: On today's show, Abby Chatfield's shock radio exit, Gold Coast Influencers,

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Speaker 1: abuse for taking photos outside a residential apartment block, Jade

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Speaker 1: Tunci's husband's forced career change, and why we can't get

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Speaker 1: enough of At Home with the Furies. Hello, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer and

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Speaker 1: pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie Tolbert, and

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Speaker 1: today it's just the two of us. Kate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Amy's not feeling well.

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Speaker 1: It's weird because we're still recording in her house, but

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Speaker 1: she's in bed, so hopefully she feels better soon. It's

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Speaker 1: been a really exciting week because on Wednesday, Kate, we

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Speaker 1: dropped our first episode looking at High Five and basically

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Speaker 1: the making of High Five.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think.

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Speaker 1: We've ever had such a huge response to one of

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Speaker 1: our deep dive episodes. Look, we weren't really expecting it either,

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Speaker 1: because I came up with the idea and it was

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Speaker 1: shot down by you and Amy. And now I've been

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Speaker 1: gloating about it ever since because everyone is loving it.

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Speaker 1: It's so nostalgic. I didn't know High Five still had

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Speaker 1: so many fans. I think Outspoken could single handedly bring

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Speaker 1: back the High five reunion because that's a big call. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it has been talk of a High five reunion,

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Speaker 1: which we will go into next week. How epic would

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Speaker 1: it be if it happened at Carol's by candlelight.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that would be so good.

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Speaker 1: I love it because usually we get influencers managers reaching out,

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Speaker 1: like last week with Lilly Brown's manager. But this week

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Speaker 1: we had a manager reach out and they were happy.

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Speaker 2: It was Nathan Foley.

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Speaker 1: From High Five's manager, and we are setting up an

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Speaker 1: interview with him to run after our Deep Dive series.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited for it.

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Speaker 1: I know we were joking that we're going to be

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Speaker 1: a little bit starstruck because we loved Nathan growing up.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because at home I ran into my bedroom

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Speaker 1: and started singing the High Five songs in my partner

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Speaker 1: and I said, oh my god, we're interviewing Nathan. And

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Speaker 1: he's like, you were just excited because you had crossed

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Speaker 1: him as a child. It's like, I think I was

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Speaker 1: too young, But I think a lot of the mums

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Speaker 1: really loved him. Yeah. Time the commentary I'm seeing is

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Speaker 1: all the mums love Nathan, but there was someone who

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Speaker 1: messaged us saying that they had a sexual awake because

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Speaker 1: of tim.

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Speaker 2: From My five that Spiky Bond. I can't get the

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Speaker 2: songs out of my head.

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Speaker 1: I put together a compilation video of what I deemed

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Speaker 1: with their top five bangers, and most people are agreeing.

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Speaker 1: But there's been some complaints. People seem to think that

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Speaker 1: snakes and ladders and ready or not have been robbed.

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Speaker 1: So I think I'm going to put together a top

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Speaker 1: ten and I have to include those.

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Speaker 2: Ah okay, I'm sa I'm done.

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Speaker 1: So. Persist Jade Tunci has revealed that her husband Locky Bricky,

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Speaker 1: had to give up his teaching job for his social

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Speaker 1: media career.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: This story came out after a follower said that Locke's

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Speaker 1: tone in a recent video reminded.

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Speaker 2: Them of either a dad or a.

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Speaker 1: Teacher, and Lockie went on to explain that he is

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Speaker 1: actually a qualified high school teacher, but he ran into

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Speaker 1: trouble when he graduated.

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Speaker 2: Here's what he said.

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Speaker 3: Had a weird think. When I graduated and started teaching,

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Speaker 3: I was still doing like a lot of social media

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Speaker 3: stuff and I pretty much got called into the dean

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Speaker 3: much said to me, you either give up socials and

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Speaker 3: be a teacher or yeah, like you can't sort of

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Speaker 3: have socials and be a teacher, so good luck. Yet,

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Speaker 3: what do you want to do?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, he was uploading a lot of toughness,

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Speaker 3: Like, right now, I'll put that on hold. I'm not

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Speaker 3: really sure if it's what i want to do, and

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Speaker 1: Maybe I've never really heard of this before from a

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Speaker 1: as Jade said, at the time, he was uploading a

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Speaker 1: lot of shirtless photos to Instagram. Can you imagine if

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Speaker 1: he rocked up as one of the teachers at your school,

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Speaker 1: you would be like, who is this guy? And then

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Speaker 1: would actually cause a lot of issues in the school yard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's pretty funny because I think school students usually get

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Speaker 1: crushes on pretty all ordinary looking people that are teachers

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Speaker 1: if they happen to be young. So can you imagine

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Speaker 1: the chaos that would be going on at a high

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Speaker 1: the thing that also makes it ten times more difficult

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Speaker 1: into Jarda's content. Yeah, he's a background character on her channel.

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Speaker 1: It's quite interesting because you can see how fast social

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Speaker 1: media has come since I'm assuming he graduated, because now

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Speaker 1: on TikTok we see teachers who are influencers in the

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Speaker 1: as a teacher. It's so bizarre. I was telling my

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Speaker 1: But then I thought, logistically, has she got permission from

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Speaker 1: the parents to show this content. It's his other teacher

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Speaker 1: that popped up on my TikTok feed, and he's a

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Speaker 1: male teacher. I can't remember what his name is, but

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Speaker 1: he's always showing like what he's doing with his class,

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Speaker 1: and he sets up the camera to show like a

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Speaker 1: school would know about it. I'm sure there must be

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Speaker 2: The start of the year or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I would feel if I was

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Speaker 1: because firstly, the safety issue, but secondly, if he's spending

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Speaker 2: Mmm?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Story time.

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Speaker 1: A group of Oussy influencers have detailed the moment they

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Speaker 1: were abused by a stranger who caught them taking photos

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Speaker 1: outside popular Gold Coast apartments. The Mali residents. I feel

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Speaker 1: awkward just thinking about he's already now. The former Australian

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Speaker 1: Love Island contestants who were Taylor Mellington and Ruby Enna.

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Speaker 1: They were on a little content shoot outside the apartments

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Speaker 1: when a woman with a baby unleashed on them. Now,

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Speaker 1: Taylor shared the interaction on her TikTok account, which now

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Speaker 1: has over fifty thousand views. Let's throw to this very

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Speaker 1: awkward exchange.

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Speaker 2: Say, if you're actually that attractive, you get a real track,

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Speaker 2: get a pre pot door.

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Speaker 1: Now, the audio isn't great and for those who missed it,

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Speaker 1: if you're actually that attractive, you'd get a real job.

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Speaker 2: You'd get a.

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Speaker 1: Real fucking job. And as a woman leaves, she flips

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Speaker 1: the influences the bird. Once the woman had walked off,

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Speaker 1: one of the influencers then said, what a bitch. And

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Speaker 1: as she said this, another woman then exited the building

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Speaker 1: where they were taking the photos and she said to

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Speaker 1: the girls, she's having a go because every day there's

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Speaker 1: people outside our building. Honestly, so clearly this is a

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Speaker 1: real issue for these residents. In the video, the girls

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Speaker 1: even said that this Marley Residents is a real hot

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Speaker 1: spot for influencers to go. And apparently these girls live

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Speaker 2: So I must be there all the time. Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming this apartment building is very aesthetically pleasing if

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Speaker 1: a very aspirational vibe. Now, both Taylor and Ruby have

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Speaker 1: shared storytimes on their TikTok accounts about this incident, and

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Speaker 1: Taylor says that the girls were minding their own business

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Speaker 2: Here's what she said.

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Speaker 3: So they're minding our own business taking a photo.

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Speaker 2: Of Ruby and I.

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Speaker 1: He was just sitting there and this chick comes up

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Speaker 1: and starts abusing her. She's like, you're devaluing the property.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna call the police, rarah, And I was like, nope, we.

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Speaker 2: You know, when someone's going at you just ignore it

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Speaker 3: She kept going, kept going, and I was like, and

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Speaker 1: No, she goes, would you go and stand in front

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Speaker 1: I do that, and she's like, you're invading their privacy.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not going into their home.

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Speaker 1: Like out the front of the footpath is.

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Speaker 4: Where we take photos, Like we never go into someone's property.

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Speaker 1: Now, this story has elicited a very mixed response. There

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Speaker 1: claiming that a similar incident had happened to them at

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Speaker 1: exactly who you were talking about. The same thing happened

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Speaker 1: to me. They're shooting for a brand. Another TikToker wrote like, honestly,

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Speaker 1: how does it affect them? Life is way too short

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Speaker 1: to let unimportant stuff like that ruin your day. On

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Speaker 1: the other side, there were people that were agreeing with

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Speaker 1: the woman and saying, well, why are these people taking

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Speaker 1: photos outside of a residential building? It is an invasion

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Speaker 1: of privacy. Yeah, One user said it's a bit cringe

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Speaker 1: to go to a complex you don't live it to

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Speaker 1: take content photos. It's disingenuous to pretend that's where you live,

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Speaker 1: whilst another said, I agree with Karen, that's what the

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Speaker 1: woman was nicknamed. I would be sick of everyone taking

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Speaker 1: pictures of my property. Take photos in front of your

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Speaker 1: own house, or find a free landscape. Now, Kate, where

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Speaker 1: do you sit on this matter? Well, I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: in the middle because I don't think it was right

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Speaker 1: for the woman to verbally abuse the influences and give

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Speaker 1: them the bird, But I can see where she's coming from.

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Speaker 1: I would be pretty annoyed if I live somewhere and

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to go about my daily life and

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Speaker 1: influencers taking photos of themselves and it's not just going

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Speaker 1: This week Get Home with the Furies daboot on Netflix

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Speaker 1: So the eldest son is eleven and he's Prince John James.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely shocked to hear this week that Paris is expecting

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Speaker 1: really well in her YouTube channel is have that mixture

441
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 1: of fame and normality because she does just share about

442
00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 1: your everyday mundane tasks, but she's got such a great

443
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,160
Speaker 1: personality that she makes it interesting and she's so likable.

444
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 2: But then at the same time, you also watch.

445
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 1: For the aspirational element because she has this insane house

446
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 1: and beautiful clothes.

447
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 4: I also just wanted to show that it wasn't It

448
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 4: was entirely my decision and I want to leave and.

449
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:32,479
Speaker 2: I'm so happy.

450
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield has stunned her followers announcing that she's quitting

451
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 1: her national radio show with the Hit Network. The twenty

452
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 1: eight year old, who's been hosting Hot Nights with Abby

453
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 1: for the past eighteen months, said the show has become

454
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 1: taxing and she no longer wants to mine her life

455
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 1: for content now. Despite giving up arguably one of Australia's

456
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 1: top gigs, Abby's decision was met with celebration, with many

457
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 1: congratulating her for putting herself first. So if I have

458
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,640
Speaker 1: found the PR strategy around Abby's deay parture so fascinating, Yeah,

459
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 1: I think she really has given us a masterclass into

460
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,400
Speaker 1: how to leave a high profile job but not make

461
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: too any way, So before any official media release or

462
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 1: joint statement was put out, Abby was on the front foot,

463
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: announcing it first to her followers on Instagram. Here's a

464
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 1: snippet of what Abby said in her video.

465
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 4: And I wanted to connect more with my audience. That

466
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 4: sounds so wanky, my audience more directly, and I felt

467
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 4: like radio, while as call as it isn't as directors

468
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 4: doing more socials. And there were times that I'd have

469
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 4: stories that I'd want to put on my Instagram and

470
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 4: I would just be so tired and didn't want to

471
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 4: post about it. Or I would have thoughts about political issues,

472
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 4: and noticed was so exhausted, like so emotionally exhausted from

473
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, draining my life for all these different mediums,

474
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 4: and now I've gotten rid of a really big one

475
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 4: and I'm really really proud of myself for doing it.

476
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: It was a really hard decision. It was like hours

477
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:55,360
Speaker 2: in therapy.

478
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 1: Abby then went on to say that the daily show

479
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 1: had become taxing and she felt as though she was

480
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 1: mining her life for content. She was also open in

481
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: sharing that she thinks it's affected her performance in other areas,

482
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: like on her social channels and podcasts, because she was

483
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: either too exhausted or ran out of content to share.

484
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: I always wondered if this was coming, because I do

485
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: see a lot of big podcasters make their way onto

486
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: radio and often in daily slots, and I think, how

487
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: do they constantly come up with content to talk about?

488
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a really difficult thing.

489
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: I noticed this a lot with breakfast radio show hosts,

490
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: because they have to go to bed so early, yet

491
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 1: they're supposed to have this full day of socializing and

492
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: coming up with these interesting stories to tell when for

493
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: most of the day they're sleeping after their shift. Yeah,

494
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: and it's not like their life is that relatable, because

495
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 1: most people don't have to go to bed super.

496
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 2: Early and then get up really early in the morning.

497
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Speaker 1: In terms of Abby saying that this job has affected

498
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: her performance on social media, I tend to agree with

499
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 1: her because I have really noticed over the past six

500
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: months that Abby has been absent from a lot of

501
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: conversations because in the past, she was really on the

502
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: front foor and she had her finger to the pulse

503
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: of what political or social issues were out there, and

504
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 1: that's something that set herself apart from other influences. But lately,

505
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: due to her increased workload, she said that she hasn't

506
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: had any time to really be present on there, and

507
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 1: I think that people are underestimating just how much time

508
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: and energy it takes to actually really cultivate a social

509
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 1: media presence like she has, and I suppose she's having

510
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: to pick where she shares that content. So when she

511
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 1: was only on social media and didn't have a radio show,

512
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: obviously it's all going to be transmitted from her social

513
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: media account, whereas she's probably having to save things up

514
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: to talk about on radio and then save things up

515
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: to talk about on your podcast. And I can see

516
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: how exhausting that would be and draining, and as she says,

517
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: mining her life for content, because once you start mining

518
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 1: your life for content, then your life is basically the

519
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: public's life and there's not much privacy that goes with that. Yeah, definitely.

520
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: I think it's also really fascinating to look at how

521
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: this decision and really shows the change in the media

522
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: landscape because I think that there is just so much

523
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: power in having a social media following, because ten years ago,

524
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: having your own radio show or TV show that was

525
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: the absolute pinnacle, and you would sound crazy to turn.

526
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: Your back on an opportunity like that.

527
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: But while there is still status I think that comes

528
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: with having your own radio show, I think that people

529
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: realize that they can be famous and they can have

530
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: a profile and create change, but using their own social

531
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 1: media platforms, and it gives them more flexibility and they

532
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: can lead their own lives instead of being controlled by

533
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: higher powers. Yeah. I think influencers like the fact that

534
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: they can be their own bosses. And I think with Abby,

535
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 1: she has had a normal nine to five job and

536
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: then she had the flexibility and freedom to be an influencer,

537
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: and then obviously has been drawn back into another traditional

538
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: job in the sense of being at a radio station,

539
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: and as you said, she just can't do whatever she

540
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: wants and that would be hard to go back to

541
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: that format.

542
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: I think it would also.

543
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: Be really tough because you've built your up to this

544
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: financial position where she would have been paid a lot

545
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: of money for this role, and also all of the

546
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: other television opportunities and social media opportunities she has, but

547
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: she would find that she'd actually have no time to

548
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: do anything with her friends that she wanted to do.

549
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: So you can't even enjoy the wealth that comes with it.

550
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: I think it's also really interesting the issue of oversaturation

551
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: that she brought up, because when you're on the TV

552
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: every night and then you're doing radio, plus you've got

553
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: a podcast and social media following, people start to get

554
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: sick of you. Yeah, definitely. I mean we saw it

555
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: with Taylor Swift. She went into hiding for a couple

556
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: of years, and she's probably going to do the same thing.

557
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: After this massive tour, she'll probably go quiet for a while,

558
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: because there's nothing worse than oversaturating yourself and people getting

559
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: sick of you, because that's when people start trolling you

560
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: and everything you say begins to be wrong. I did

561
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: find it quite interesting that she said that she made

562
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: this decision to quit radio while she was on a

563
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: very much publicized break from work due to burnout that

564
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: she was experiencing. So I think that people are finding

565
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: it really positive that she has put herself above career.

566
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: I actually think it's really great because you're often sold

567
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: this dream that when you get your dream job, your

568
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: whole life is going to.

569
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 2: Be perfect and you're going to love it.

570
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: But this is an example of Abby's got a dream job,

571
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: she loved it, but she doesn't want to do it anymore,

572
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: and I think that's okay. I think we grow up

573
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: thinking that we're always going to be in one career

574
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: and that's it. But the reality is I think it's

575
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: reported that in our lifetime we're probably going to have

576
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: thirteen different jobs. I think that number has probably increased

577
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: more recently as well. I think it is quite apparent

578
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: from Abby's announcement that she wanted to make it really

579
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: clear that this was her decision and that she had

580
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: not been fired, because leaving on your own accord is

581
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: such a different look to being fired, because if you're fired,

582
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: it can reflect on how your show performed, or whether

583
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: you're still relevant, or even if there was tension or

584
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: shit going behind the scenes. And I think it was

585
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: also really important for Listener to make it look like

586
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: there was no bad blood between them, and particularly because

587
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: there had been some bad stories coming out about the

588
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: radio show in terms of Abby's co host quitting, and

589
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: there seemed to be a lot of question marks about

590
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: what was actually going on. But Abby has absolutely schooled

591
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: people in a PR masterclass and how to control the

592
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: narrative around her quitting this radio show. That being said,

593
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: I don't think she came up with this strategy completely

594
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: on her own. I think that she would have been

595
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: helped by her manager and also Listener.

596
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

597
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: I get that she would have been involved, but I

598
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: think that she is very savvy and clever when it

599
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: comes to it. I just think that she would have

600
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: had help as well. Well. She might have been helped,

601
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: but I do think this would have been her directive. Yeah,

602
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean it is quite interesting because she did announce

603
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: on her podcast that she still has a desk in

604
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: the Listener office.

605
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: She also confirmed that she'll be doing Friday's.

606
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: Live with the radio station as well as Australian Mate,

607
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: so she clearly is very much still working with the network.

608
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: I did love in her announcement that she spoke directly

609
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: to the Daily Mail journals and she said, Daily Mail,

610
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: there's nothing naughty going on. I just didn't want to

611
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: do it anymore. And she also said I wanted to

612
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: do a video so it doesn't turn into wispery bullshit.

613
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: I just thought this was so clear because she took

614
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: away any of the power that the Daily Mail journals

615
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: had by directly addressing them in this story, because she's

616
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: sort of removing any sort of exclusive that they could have.

617
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: Made up about it.

618
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: The thing is, though, I feel like the Daily Mail

619
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: would still twist it and just not mention that line.

620
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: I've seen them do it before. She has picked a.

621
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: Really good time to make this announcement because in twenty

622
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: twenty three, I feel like we have such a different

623
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: view on quitting than what we had years ago because

624
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people were congratulating her, Whereas I think

625
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: that if this had been made perhaps five years ago,

626
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: I think that there would be a lot of think

627
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: pieces about oh, a reality star giving up a dream job.

628
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm so torn with it because I'm so happy for her,

629
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: But then this part of me who studied journalism and

630
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: has seen a lot of people have to work their

631
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: way up and build up a Korean radio it also

632
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: makes you feel a little bit sick thinking of the

633
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: opportunity she's leaving behind.

634
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've experienced it.

635
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: You've worked in broadcast and that was your number one

636
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: job that you wanted, and after a couple of years, like, yes,

637
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't your decision initially to leave, but you decided

638
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: upon reflection that hey, I actually don't want to do

639
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: that anymore. I think that a lot of people have

640
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: those experiences well, with what they deem their dream job,

641
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: they get the job.

642
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: And it's not all that's cracked up to be.

643
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree, because sometimes you can feel trapped

644
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: because you're like, well, I really wanted this, and this

645
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: was my decision and I've worked so hard for it,

646
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 1: and you don't kind of consider your happiness. Yeah, And

647
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of people that may

648
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: traditionally work up to the job in the journalism field

649
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: and then still get to that job and realize, Shit,

650
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: I've wasted all this time working up to it and

651
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: it's not actually all that it's cracked up to be.

652
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: And I think this is a good lesson that you

653
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: should reevaluate what's going on in your life and just

654
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: because something may have been a dream a couple of

655
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: years ago, if it's not fulfilling you, doesn't mean you have.

656
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: To stick to it.

657
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: On that very inspirational note for this Friday, I think

658
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: that is all we have time for. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us for today's episode. If you have

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it, could you please make sure you are subscribed

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Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts and also at Spotify. And if all

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Speaker 1: our High five talk at the start of the episode

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Speaker 1: so I got you feeling nostalgic, then maybe it's time

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Speaker 1: to become an Outspoken Plus subscriber. If you would like

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Speaker 1: to subscribe to listen to our deep dive on High five.

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Speaker 1: All the details are in our show notes. This podcast

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Speaker 1: was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people

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Speaker 1: of the Adelaide plains we pay respect to elders past

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Speaker 1: and present,