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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nason.

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Speaker 2: Hello, primary morning.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, good to be with you. Happy budget day.

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Speaker 2: Is that a thing to you? And Jim Chalmers all

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Speaker 2: gather and got it's budget day?

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Speaker 3: Oh, we certainly do. It's the end of what's a

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Speaker 3: very long process of developing the budget. So it's a

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Speaker 3: combination a big night for Jim and then after this,

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Speaker 3: of course the hard work starts of implementing it. But

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Speaker 3: there's many, many hours in a small room of the

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Speaker 3: Expenditure Review Committee going through line by line in order

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Speaker 3: to get it right. There's always more demands than can

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Speaker 3: possibly be met, of course, and more good ideas. See,

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Speaker 3: you've got to prioritize them, and we've done that to

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Speaker 3: produce a predicted nine point three billion dollar surplus that

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Speaker 3: will be the second surplus in a row. There hadn't

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Speaker 3: been one for fifteen years before last year, so that's important.

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Speaker 3: So that we're making those investments in the future, putting

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Speaker 3: in place some cost of living relief whilst making sure

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Speaker 3: that we continue to moderate inflation, which is half what

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Speaker 3: it was when we came to office.

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Speaker 1: See, well, this is the thing, as you say, we're

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Speaker 1: in surpus for the second time and promising the cost

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Speaker 1: of living relief. For someone listening to this, what does

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Speaker 1: that actually mean? What tangible things? Does this mean that

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Speaker 1: someone's going to hear tonight that will change how hard

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Speaker 1: it is for them day to day at the moment.

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Speaker 3: What it means they'll get a tax cut, every single taxpayer.

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Speaker 3: A whole lot of Australians were simply going to miss

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Speaker 3: out before we made the changes earlier this year. If

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Speaker 3: there's someone paying back hacks, we've taken three billion dollars

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Speaker 3: off the bill that students were going to receive. If

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Speaker 3: there's someone studying to be a nurse or a childcare worker,

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Speaker 3: they'll get paid when they're doing their prack. That will

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Speaker 3: make an enormous difference. If there's someone driving on those

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Speaker 3: Western Sydney roads, We've got one point nine billion dollars

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Speaker 3: to assist with Western Sydney road projects there across the board.

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Speaker 3: If they go to the doctor, extra urgent healthcare clinics

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Speaker 3: will mean they can go to one of these clinics,

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Speaker 3: get the assistance they need for free. All they need

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Speaker 3: is their Medicare card. We've got fifty eight of them

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Speaker 3: already up and running. They've seen over four hundred thousand people,

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Speaker 3: but there'll be more as a result of this budget.

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Speaker 3: If they're looking at the housing sector. We've now got

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Speaker 3: thirty two billion dollars for the housing sector, with additional

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Speaker 3: money including billion dollars for women and children escaping domestic violence.

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Speaker 3: We know that too many women have not had somewhere

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Speaker 3: to go and that will make an enormous difference going forward.

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Speaker 3: So right across the board we've done what we can,

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Speaker 3: things like superannuation being paid on paper and or leave.

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Speaker 3: That's another part of our agenda to make sure that

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Speaker 3: equality for women is front and center of the government's agenda.

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Speaker 2: And it's certainly hard. I certainly wouldn't want to put

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Speaker 2: together a budget or even be Prime minister. I was

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Speaker 2: reading the paper on the weekend. We drink with the PM,

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Speaker 2: but he can't organize a party. They had an alban

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Speaker 2: Easy Word Association and it said that you would be

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Speaker 2: better at this is better than Peter Dutton, that holding

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Speaker 2: a conversation at a pub, hosting a party, mining your children,

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Speaker 2: using a barbecue, Although they say for Peter Dutton, he'd

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Speaker 2: be good at negotiating a discount, putting out a kitchen fire,

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Speaker 2: reading a map, putting up a shelf, solving an escape room,

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Speaker 2: opening the battle batting.

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Speaker 1: Opening the batting. That's got to hurt.

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Speaker 2: That's a bit harsh.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the lesson from all of that is

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Speaker 3: don't read the tabs. You know you get you'll get

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Speaker 3: these bizarre commentary from time to time. What I do

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Speaker 3: is try not to look at that stuff. I try

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Speaker 3: to just do my job. My job is about dealing

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Speaker 3: with the immediate pressures which we're on. We know that

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Speaker 3: they're there for cost of living, but also always having

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Speaker 3: that eye on the future. So you'll see some exciting

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Speaker 3: support tonight for higher education. You'll see support for making

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Speaker 3: more things here in Australia. How does our economy grow?

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Speaker 3: How do we take advantage of clean energy so that

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Speaker 3: the shift to climate change means we're actually making more

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Speaker 3: things here, green steel, greenow umnium, making a difference to

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Speaker 3: strengthen the economy in the future instead of just export

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Speaker 3: our resources, waiting for someone else to add jobs and

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Speaker 3: add value and then importing them back.

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Speaker 2: But also we're back on the gas as well. When

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Speaker 2: I was a kid growing up, gas was sold to

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Speaker 2: me as a clean energy and that it's been demonized

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Speaker 2: over the years and your own government was against gas,

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Speaker 2: but now you're back on the gas as well.

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Speaker 3: Now, we've always had a common sense approach and the

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Speaker 3: truth is that you need gas as a firming capacity

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Speaker 3: for renewables. As we know, coal fire power stations are

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Speaker 3: shutting one by one and on the former governor. In

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Speaker 3: spite of all the retoric, not a single one open,

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Speaker 3: not a single one started to be built because the

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Speaker 3: world's moved on and that the cheapest form is renewables.

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Speaker 3: But what you need at this stage is the firming capacity,

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Speaker 3: that certainty that gas provides because you can turn it

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Speaker 3: on and off very quickly, and that's important. So that

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Speaker 3: the shift which big industry is doing, companies like Rio

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Speaker 3: tinto doing shifting, so they're making things now with renewables

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Speaker 3: that they have that certainty to be provided going forward.

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Speaker 1: Because we do need so, because fossil fuel subsidies are

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Speaker 1: costing the government fourteen and a half billion dollars in

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Speaker 1: the last financial year.

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Speaker 3: Well, we certainly need to shift the economy and that

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Speaker 3: is happening. Are you seeing extraordinary investment in renewables. That's

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Speaker 3: the future dealing with climate change. But whilst that transition's

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Speaker 3: going on, gas has a role to play in supporting

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Speaker 3: that transition.

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Speaker 2: And that's it.

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Speaker 1: And quiz how could best look after a bit?

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Speaker 3: Look?

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Speaker 2: Do you know any about Laura Keets Where we've had

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Speaker 2: a listener Craig who's gone away to Broken Hill to

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Speaker 2: see his mum for a week, and someone in the studio,

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Speaker 2: not me, has said that they will look after.

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Speaker 1: It's a nineteen year old Laura Keet that we are

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Speaker 1: babysitting for a week.

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Speaker 3: Do you have anything nineteen year old Lowrier Keet's and

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Speaker 3: told I had a gala called Andy when I was

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Speaker 3: a kid, and it used to dance. It was it

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Speaker 3: was very cute and we always had canaries as well,

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Speaker 3: But that didn't last that long ago. To say so,

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Speaker 3: I'm probably not, so we're looking at Andy was pretty

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Speaker 3: good though Andy lived to an old ads.

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Speaker 1: Right, so Lorier Keats though they're pretty robust, apparently they

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Speaker 1: can live to twenty five years. This one here, called

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Speaker 1: Blaze is only nineteen. It's a spring chicken.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, I'm sure you'll be fine. What you don't

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Speaker 3: need it is the only pet I've got is Toto,

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Speaker 3: who would bark at the Lowerkeet no doubt and not

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Speaker 3: provide any assistance, so attack, I'm have no help you

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Speaker 3: bringing it into the studio.

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Speaker 1: Now it's sitting right next to me as we speak.

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Speaker 2: My dream was to have a nineteen year old bird

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Speaker 2: sitting across from me, but not an old lot.

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Speaker 3: Anyway. No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: risk responding to that.

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Speaker 1: Comment, nor should you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, miniter, thank you for joining us, and good

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Speaker 2: luck with the budget tonight.

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Speaker 3: Thanks very much, guys, thank you Anthony Alberanzi.

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Speaker 1: There it is. He had Andy the gala galas live

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Speaker 1: for a long time.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of galas in Parliament, oh and

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Speaker 1: In the media, so I've got a lot in comment