WEBVTT - FULL SHOW: Childless By Choice & Pregnancy Tests 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:02.080 Are you ready? 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.200 Good pickup with Britt Hogley and Laura Burn. 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:08.600 Baby, are worth our windows done? 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.280 My worlds in the dust? Only good, bab dug all. 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:17.880 I don't much, but yeah, I'll big get and what 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:18.640 I want. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:20.240 It don't matter where. 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.320 This is the pick up, Hi, guys, it's the pick 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.000 up with Brett Harckley and Laura Bird. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:26.480 Happy Friday. 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:29.000 I always get that extra kick on a Friday. You 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:30.080 know when you feel like. 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.040 You're close to the finish line, that's because you're leaving 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:32.960 here to go on a boat. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.519 It's true, we are producer. Grace is coming with me. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:39.599 I was also luckily invited, but I had had much 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:40.520 more important plans. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.360 I got a date at the RSL Club, Grace and 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:44.280 higher on the boat. 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:45.559 We're going around the harbor. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:47.120 We've got a couple of friends. It's going to be 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:47.840 really nice. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:49.320 But Laura's like, I'm sorry, I'm busy. 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.400 I'm like, what is too busy for the boat? She's 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.160 like the local Ari, I've got dinner with the family 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.280 and the kids. Can't let them down. Babe, you don't 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:56.920 do the raffle? 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.200 Aren't you? You love an RSL raffle? Yes? 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.720 I am. I can't give up the chance to win 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.800 myself from meat raffle. It is actually my favorite thing. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.039 Winning a meat raffle is so deeply satisfying. I love it, 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.200 and I buy an obscene amount of raffle tickets that 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:12.800 they could have just gone and bought a meat tray. 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:14.360 You got to be in it to win it, don't. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:15.440 They say that's. 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.679 How they make their money because they bank on people 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.680 like you. Wis the adrenaline? What if am I going 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:21.640 to win? Pull my number on the LG OFC. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:22.120 God. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:23.840 I really hope Laura doesn't go on that boat party 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.240 and she comes to the RSL tonight. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:29.920 Who's gonna buy raffles? Your single handedly keeping the local aflow? 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.520 I absolutely love it. Well, I'm doing my beer anyway. 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.479 We've got a very big show for you guys today. 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.160 Also a bit of an important discussion Jamila jimil You 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:39.120 guys might know who she is. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:40.280 She's a very famous actress. 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.440 She's just recently come out with a bit of a 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.040 bombshell around why she doesn't want to be a mum 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.520 and it's a you know, it's a really I think, 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.600 a very interesting take and it's something we don't hear 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.280 very often from women who have way more choice these 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.000 days about whether they want to be at the RSL 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:55.000 club with their kids or not. 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.200 Yeah, I really loved it. Maybe you don't want kids, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:58.520 you want to be on a boat. Who know, are 0:01:58.560 --> 0:01:59.520 you Laura or Brittany? 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.600 Now something I wanted to talk about, and I know 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:05.760 you have some feelings about it too. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:07.240 Brit Jamila Jamil. 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:09.799 If you don't know who she is, she was once 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.240 upon a time a DJ, a TV presenter, and she's 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.200 also an actress who was in that TV show The 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:15.720 Good Place. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:17.760 Yeah, she actually blew up. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.200 Now she's a big advocate for like a lot of 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:21.880 different issues around but she's like. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.040 She's an advocate for she's one of those nor she's 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:25.200 one of those people that doesn't really have. 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:26.760 A role anymore. She does everything. 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.720 Yeah, she's she's also a very big voice in a 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:34.040 sort of feminist movement. So she's recently come out and 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.520 spoken about whether or not she does or doesn't want 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.959 to have children. Now spoiler, she doesn't want to have kids, 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.400 and she's made that decision of her own accord, not 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.600 because she can't and not because she's unwilling. She just 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.080 really has arrived at the destination where she's realized that 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:51.519 being a mum isn't for her. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:52.839 Yeah, I really. 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.720 Loved it because I feel like when this conversation does happen, 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.640 which it's becoming more frequent, but it's still not the 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.959 societal norm. But and it does happen, there's usually a 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:03.960 bit of bum fluff either side, like people want to 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.000 soften it, they feel like they need to really explain 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.800 themselves why, and like compliment sandwich. 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.240 But she just really owned it. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:11.600 Yeah. I want to read to you what she had 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.240 to say, And there's a little bit to this. She wrote, 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.079 I don't give a shit about marriage, and I don't 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:16.760 want children. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:18.320 I just really really don't. 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.960 I think one of the best decisions I've ever made 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:22.200 is to not become a mother. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.239 I don't think i'd be bad at it. I just 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:25.120 don't want to do it. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.120 I actually love it so much. 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.520 I'm beyond not compelled. I have absolutely no interest. I'm 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.840 about as interested in that as I am rock climbing, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.200 and I think they both sound really hard and dangerous. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.080 But she goes on to say how I think it's 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.680 better for society if I end my bloodline here and 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:42.880 close all the doors behind me. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:45.120 I love it. I love it. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.680 The reason why I quite enjoyed how absolutely unapologetic she is. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.120 And I say, this is someone who is a mum, 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.520 and I love being a mum and I love the 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:55.720 role at having my kid's life and what they mean 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.640 to me. But I think a lot of times we 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.240 look at women who have made the decision to you know, 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.440 childless by choice, that decision, and we kind of think, 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.760 you're going to change your mind, Like that's the fear mongering. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.520 That goes on for a lot of reddit. Yeah, you're 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.520 going to regret it. That's the fear mongering that goes 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:11.560 on for a lot of people. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.400 Or on the flip side of that, like we paint 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.840 this picture that if you don't want to have kids, 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.200 that you must be an innately selfish person. And I 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.039 I mean, we've had loads of conversations in our podcast 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.680 Life Uncut about this, brit But there is such a 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.279 powerful movement of women who have made the decision that 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.159 they don't want to have kids, and they're not selfish, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.400 and they're not going to turn around and regret it. 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.560 They just have agency to choose a life that they 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:36.680 really want for themselves. 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.599 I actually want to challenge that, Well. 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.560 It's not surprising to me that motherhood isn't for everyone. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:42.640 It's really hard. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:43.839 I want to challenge that. 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.039 I think that deciding not to have kids sometimes is 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.760 completely selfish decision, But that doesn't mean it's bad. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:51.760 You can. 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.719 Like, part of the reason that I've always been on 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.600 the fence is, and I openly say, it's because I 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.719 still feel selfish with my time. When you decide to 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.680 have a you are giving up every second of your day. 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.919 There is nothing wrong with that, but it is a 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.919 big decision, and I often think, am I ready to 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.599 give up my time to the level that I would 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.400 need to to become a mother? Like that is a 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:17.039 really big thing. But being selfish doesn't always have to 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.719 have these negative connotations. 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:20.600 But I see it on the flip side of that. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.200 I think if you have enough self awareness to know 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.800 that you don't want to be a mum, that you 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.880 wouldn't enjoy that role. I don't think it's selfish because 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:30.640 what it means is is that you're not going to 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.520 be in the position where you have to pretend and 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.160 show up and you know, be sort of this support 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.880 person for this tiny little human in a role that 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:42.760 you actually resent and never wanted to do in the 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:43.360 first place. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:44.120 You know what I. 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:48.919 Really envy, and it's because I still now in this moment, 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.040 I struggle with this so much. I am on this 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:56.760 perpetually swinging pendulum between wanting kids and not wanting kids. 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:01.000 I envy people that know either way, like Jamila does, 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.560 like she's so adamant, and I wish I felt that 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.320 same as people that know that all they've ever wanted 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:06.040 to do is be a mum. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:06.599 I envy that. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.240 And my pendulum is constantly swinging, and I know I'm 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.640 running out of time, and in my late thirties, I 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.560 have eggs and embryos on ice. But I still need 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.239 to actively make that decision. And it's really really hard 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:23.159 to make because one day I wake up and I'm like, 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.400 whilst I'm not ready, I absolutely can't imagine my life 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.800 without that, Like I whilst I might not want it 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.919 right now, when I look to my future, which is 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:35.599 what I try to do all the time, I'm like, cool, 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.680 you might not be ready now, think of your future. 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.039 What do you see? What do you want? 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.800 And I always try and visualize it. There's always a 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.719 family in it. But I can't fathom having in the family. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.520 When I'm fifty, I'll be ready, but I'm just not. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.960 Yeah, And it's a really like it upsets me all 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:52.279 the time. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.200 If you've been following my story or like the podcast 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.520 or whatever, I always talk about this because I think 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.000 it's really important. We talk about people that want kids, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.640 so we talk about the people that don't want kids. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.840 We often don't talk about the people that are stuck 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.280 on the swing like I am. I don't know which 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:07.240 stop to get off at. 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:07.760 I'm on the. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.840 Bust around around about and I don't know where to 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.280 get off, and that's what keeps me up at night 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.800 is making the decision. I feel like I do need 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.840 to just bite the bullet, But I just I really 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.640 envy Jamila and how cash she can just say like, no, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:22.320 it's not for me. 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.600 So well, I mean, this might be very serendipitous timing 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.880 because you also are about to share a story about 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.640 a pregnancy test and yodbye, so stick around. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:31.760 For that. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:34.640 If you're just joining us. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.000 We were just talking about Jamila Jamil not wanting kids, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.640 and we're talking about my swinging pendulum of if I 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.000 want kids or not, because I'm constantly going between the 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:45.920 two depends on the day of the week I wake 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:46.800 up and how I'm feeling. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.200 It also depends on your ovulation. 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.960 I reckon, I reckon when you're ovulating, not you specifically, 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.000 but women in general. Whenever I'm ovulating, I'm like, yeah, 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.280 third baby, And then after it, I'm like, no. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.559 Well that's a terrible idea. 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.360 Yeah, you fluctuate more than me every day, but every 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:02.640 week you've already got two kids. 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.480 Put it on record here, I do want a third 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.400 so when that happens, guys, don't be shocked. 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.360 Oh it feels weird talking about my sex life to 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:10.960 you guys, But. 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:12.960 Why you do it all the time anyway. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.200 Yeah, but know what I'm about to say, because I 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:16.440 haven't really said this. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.600 Actually, I don't really been really inteted on the podcast. 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.440 Whilst I'm confused about wanting children, my fertility, if you 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:25.600 haven't followed along, my fertility is really bad. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.920 So I have embryos and I have eggs on eyes. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.480 And it looks like I'm going to have to do 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:35.240 IVF if that works. So I say that because Ben 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.000 and I have been trying and I've never really said 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.280 that out loud, and it's hard to say I've been trying, 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.240 when I also in the same sentence say I don't 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:44.880 know if I want it to work, like it's a 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.360 very because I do know I want it to work. 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.640 And the reason I know this is sounding. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:53.520 Convoluted, so because I know that really like one day 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.880 that I know that I want the child, and because 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:57.920 I know it's going to be so hard, of course, 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.079 I wanted to do it naturally and not go through IVF. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:05.200 I'm yeah, thirty eight this year, so we're sort of like, look, 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.480 the chances of it happen naturally are so slim that 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:09.600 we'll just try our luck. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.640 And we have not been lucky obviously since yeap. 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:15.480 So we've been doing this for a very long time, 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:19.640 like every time we're together basically. So that being said, 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.840 we were just this is just a stranger situation. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:22.920 So I Ben and. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.720 I were just going to du buy for Christmas for 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.680 the break the holiday season and coming up to years. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.920 I had obviously like ovulated before, and I was like, 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:33.840 do you know what I want to have a drink 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:34.280 on years. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:35.280 I'll do a pregnancy test. 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.360 We'll check before I I'm being very sensible. 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.520 Yeah, yea, So I did a pregnancy test and it 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:41.400 came back negative. 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.240 Did another one to be sure negative. 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:46.760 You feel a level of disappointment, but at the moment 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.199 they're always negative, so it's fun. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:49.559 It's just like another negative one. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.640 So I'd put it in the bin in the bathroom, 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.800 like the toilet bin, along with the urine cup. 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.640 When about my day we left the hotel, we went 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.440 to the beach whatever, and we came. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.719 Back and the pregnancy test had been taken out of 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:04.839 the bin and the urine cup was taking out of 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.200 the bin and it was just put like up on 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.240 the console, the urine cup as well. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.440 Yeah, like the whole test was. And I was like, Ben, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:11.319 that's the question. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.559 Did you take the pregnancy test out of the bin? 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:16.319 And he was like what? 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.800 And I was like, yeah, that's weird. You're trying to 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:20.839 keep it for like a momentum. He was like, why 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:22.520 would I do that? And I said, well, I'm sure 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:23.200 I put it in the bin. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.560 You're like, cause I'm going home soon when I have 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.160 a little keepsake of me, I get that urine. 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.760 But I was like, I gas lipped myself and I 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.680 was like, yeah, maybe I didn't put it in the bin. 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.199 So I put it back in the bin. We went 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:37.920 out again, and I came back and it was back 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:38.720 out of the bin. 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:43.280 This happened like three times. They were coming into the 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:47.360 room and taking the pregnancy test and the urine cup 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.679 out of the bin and just putting it on display. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.320 And I was like, guys, are you doubling down that 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:52.959 it's negative? 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:54.080 I was like, I don't understand. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.680 Maybe they were like, this isn't the plastic spin that's 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.600 the recycling bin over there, No. 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.120 This is not the human waste. Why would you do? 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:05.120 But I'm genuinely confused. I'm like, what is happening? 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:09.320 Why is that? Why the cleaner sorting the bit? I 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:09.720 don't know. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.199 I didn't even know that that was a thing. I 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:12.319 didn't know that went through to me. 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.000 I think it is a thing, but it is they're 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:14.920 supposed to do that. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:19.040 Well, three times the pregnancy test was laid out. Explain 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:19.600 that to me. 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.080 Is it a case that you're like, because you're not 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.520 married yet, is it. 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.480 Like you shouldn't be ornoicating. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.120 For just having babies out of wedlock and dubai? I 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:30.920 don't know. Is it like is it a cult? 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.400 Maybe let's not bring any more attention to it. Am 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:34.240 I going to prison. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.719 Probably not because you're not in to buy anymore. But 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.400 what if I want to go back. I'm sure you're 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.160 put a flag on my cot. I'm sure they've done nothing. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.280 It doesn't say on your passport like had sex out 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:43.720 of wedlock. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.479 I don't think that that's going to be on your passport. 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.040 Did you get to the bottom of it? Did you 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.120 have any resolution to this, or like you just to 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:49.920 a public bin. 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.200 I was like, I had to put it in my bag. 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.080 I had to put it in my handbag, and I 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.040 was like, I guess I'll go take it somewhere into 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.600 the street. I'm like, I don't know, I don't know. 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.240 It's not happened to me before, and I couldn't understand it. 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.560 I watched a really funny TikTok the other day and 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.640 it was like, you know, when you're an adult, it's 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.800 when your friends stopped doing pregnancy test with you and 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:09.920 they start doing it with their significant partners. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:11.640 I was like, that's the benchmark. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:13.079 That's pretty true. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:14.920 Everyone just looked at me like they never did a 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:16.040 pregnancy test with their friends. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.640 How many have you done? A few? Luckily I just 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:25.280 have two kids. Surprising even to me. Wow, there you go. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.160 Wow, it's the pick up with Britt Harkley and Laura Byrn. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.760 And you know Valentine's Day, it's just around the corner everyone. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.520 It really creeps up on you, doesn't it. 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.280 Valentine's Day? I reckon, My husband's going to be still away. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.600 Potentially he'll still be in the African jungle by then, 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.000 hopefully if he makes it through to the finals. 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.439 Yeah, hey, speaking to husband, I'm just gonna steguay for 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.199 a second take over. I just forgot that it is 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:54.720 my fiance's birthday today. Oh, like, I'm just having this 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:59.920 realization right now. But in my defense, he doesn't know yet. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.800 He hasn't woken up. He lives on the other side 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:02.120 of the world. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.760 You've done nothing for him, You have done nothing. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.600 Well, he doesn't know that until he listens. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.240 Do you know what it just he moved country. 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.720 Two days ago. It's really slipped my mind. 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:15.600 Oh, you would be feelthy if he forgot your birthday. 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.200 He would never live it down. You were angry at 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:20.360 him that he didn't buy you. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.360 A present for your birthday when you both had already 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.840 mutually agreed and spoken about the fact that you weren't 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:25.520 buying presents. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.400 Yeah, because when you say that as a woman, it 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:28.640 doesn't mean anything. 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:34.680 Diabolically. Okay, we'll talk about this later. Okay, continue. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.440 So Matt, he's currently in this celebrity jungle right and 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.800 before he left, he had a really big sit down 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:41.640 with the girls. We spoke about in the show when 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.160 he came on as well. He had this little symbol 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.560 that he was going to do, just nothing crazy. He's 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.679 just going to hold his little love heart hands up 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.440 and do like a love heart symbol to the camera 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.440 so that the girls could see him do that symbol 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.959 and so that they would know that he's thinking of them. 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:57.880 Super cute. 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.480 Yeah, in theory if he did it, so. 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:03.000 Would have been cute. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.880 So we talked about it so much, and he had 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.040 this like plan to do the symbol. And I mean 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.920 there's a few times if you've watched Time a Celebrity, 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.160 you would know there's a few times where it's actually live, 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.319 like it flicks to live in the campsite and they 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.040 kind of go around and you get the camera on 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.040 each participant for a short period of time. 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.760 And you yell out to the camera. Usually I'm saying 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:23.920 this because I did it last year. 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.560 But you're usually like love your mom. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.200 And dad, or you like you throw the sign up, 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.880 or you're like hey mad miss you like you're chaotic. 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:34.000 Totally, so that would be the opportunity Formatt to do it. Now, 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.520 he has not done it as frequently as what I 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.560 would have thought that he was going to. I think 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.880 I've seen him do it once so far. That's it, 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.160 and I've watched every episode. 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.120 Once does he say anything? Is he like, hey, lol 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:46.720 it what? 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.200 But okay, I don't know I was doing that. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.440 I know, I know, And to be fair, no one 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.640 else on this season really is. So it seems like 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.240 it was a really big thing on your season that 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.320 everyone was doing their little hand symbols and stuff. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.280 No one's really doing it on this season. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.760 Only problem is is that Marley, who has been watching 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.280 some of the episodes, has also picked up on it, 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:09.720 and so yesterday she got a bit upset. She was like, Mommy, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.200 maybe Daddy's not missing me because he's not doing the. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:16.280 Heart's matt one job, buddy. 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.080 I mean, he's out there eating pigs anuses. He's doing 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:20.680 a really good job. If you can eat a. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.000 Pigs anus, you can throw a love heart to your 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:23.840 kids at home. 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.880 In Matt's defense, I know that he would be so 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.840 unbelievably hungry, and when he is hungry. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.120 He does not function, he doesn't love. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.320 He's the hungriest man that just you can't have a 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:36.080 conversation with him. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:36.880 When he's hungry. 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.040