1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Kate Torbert and coming up on today's show, Gabby Sullivan 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: accuses Jackie Alexander of ruining her wedding. Things heat up 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: between Tammy Hembro and Bailey Smith, and Kurt Tills squashes 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: hair transplant rumors. But first, Sophie, you are finally back 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: after twelve weeks away on maternity leave. 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: I was hoping though, when I returned that I wouldn't 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: be as sleep deprived as I currently am. Brandon and 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: I are still doing our overnight feeds because our son, Luca, he's. 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: A little bit on the smaller side. 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: He's actually in the two percent for wait, so we 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: are having to keep up those feeds until he's five 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: a kilogram. So literally every night that I do a 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: late night feed, I get him in this bath that 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: we have and I weigh him because it is my 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: little light at the end of the tunnel. And last 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: night he weighed four point nine to eight. So I'm like, 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: is it on tonight? Well, I get a sleep tonight 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: very close. I mean also you're assuming that he then 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: doesn't wake. 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: Up for that feet. 24 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: I think I'm just a bit diluted at the moment 25 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: with this sleep deprivation. 26 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: But it's we're getting there. We're getting there. 27 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I felt for you so because just as 28 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: you went on attorney leave, you missed out on all 29 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: these massive pop culture stories that happened. Of course, Tammy 30 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: Hembro announced her divorce. I think it was literally a 31 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: week after you went on attorney leave. It's like she 32 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: knew I was going on leave. I was so disappointed 33 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: not to be involved. I loved your take on it, though, 34 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: and the Deep Dive series that was very good timing that. 35 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: That all come existed at the same time. 36 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: That helped me get through some of those early weeks 37 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: of having a newborn. Well. I lied a little bit 38 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: in the intro SOVI because I said it was your 39 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: first day back of maternity leave. But we managed to 40 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: get you out of the house on Thursday, all three 41 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: of us back together to do a photo shoot for 42 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: a secret project that we have come Oh, it was 43 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: so much fun. I felt like a kid sneaking out 44 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: of the house. My parents in law were over, and 45 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: also my husband was looking after Luca and it was 46 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: just so nice. We want and got our makeup. I 47 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: felt put together. We did a bit of a photo shoot. 48 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: We even got some sneaking McDonald's on the way home. 49 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: It was a big day, but a fun day. And 50 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: I heard you teasing about this new project on Friday 51 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Show and I thought, Okay and Amy, who do you 52 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: guys think you are? I know, being on the other 53 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: side of it, though, it is kind of fun to 54 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: drop some cold Well, we. 55 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: Need a new clue. What's one of the clues. 56 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Look, I'm not gonna be put on the spot. If 57 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to drop easter eggs, it's going to be 58 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: like a Taylor Swift Easter egg where it's really clever 59 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: on our social media. Maybe, yeah, maybe we'll have to 60 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: come up with something. Well. I do have a bit 61 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: of an exciting update regarding Outspoken Plus. So we have 62 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: had our subscription channel I think for over two. 63 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: Years now wow. 64 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: And originally when we set it up, due to our 65 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: podcast distribute it we could only get it on Apple Podcasts, 66 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: and then we could also offer on Patreon, and then 67 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: I managed to set up a separate Spotify feet and 68 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: it was a bit complicated to get on there wasn't it. Yeah, 69 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: it was just an extra step, and the subs episodes 70 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: don't show up in the regular feed on Spotify, so 71 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: it was a bit of a headache. So I'm now 72 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: happy to report that Outspoken Plus is available through Outspoken's 73 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: regular Spotify feed, So if that has been putting you 74 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: off from subscribing, it's a lot easier now. We'll also 75 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: keep our other Spotify feed going with Outspoken Plus on 76 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: it because we do have subscribers on there. I don't 77 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: want to make it too complicated for anyone. Look, I'm 78 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: a bit lost, I'm a bit technically challenged, but I 79 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: think it is the perfect time to sign up because 80 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: Outspoken Plus is basically an extended version of our current show, 81 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: so we have a bit more of an unfiltered chat 82 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: about influencers and influencer events. 83 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: And I think I enjoyed those episodes so much. 84 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: I particularly enjoyed them over the break listening to them 85 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: because I was laughing along, particularly to last week subs 86 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: where you guys chatted about Saffron Barker's boyfriend and his 87 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: protein farts. Just keeping all the high brass up for 88 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: the subscribers. 89 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: This soun's scary. It's a juicy mm. Okay, my lips 90 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: are DRYMS care? 91 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: How to deal with a friendship fallout? 92 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Did you guys have a friendship fallout? Yes. Jackie Alexander 93 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: has hit back at claims that she ruined Gabby Sullivan's wedding. 94 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Jackie was forced to defend herself after her former bestie 95 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: claim she got drunk and made her cry at her 96 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: own wedding. Before we get into the drama, so can 97 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: you give us some background on Jackie and Gabby? Yeah, 98 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: I want to get us acquainted with all of the 99 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: main players. First, We've got Jackie Alexander and she is 100 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: a thirty three year old fashion and lifestyle influencer who 101 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: has over five hundred thousand TikTok followers. She is also 102 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: the co founder of a fashion label as well as 103 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 1: a reusable coffee cup business. I have a big soft 104 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: spot for Jackie. I discovered her content when she was 105 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 1: hitting back at people being ages towards her and wanting 106 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: to be an influencer and have fashion content as someone 107 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: in their thirties. How dare a thirty year old want 108 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: to create content? I'm a big fan of her now, 109 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: Jackie got engaged in August last year, and she likes 110 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: a joke that she's a bit of a wag because 111 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: her fiance is an Olympian. He's called Nathan, He's a 112 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: hockey player. So I really enjoyed a lot of her 113 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: content when the Olympics were on. We got a real 114 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: behind the scenes view at what it was like as 115 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: the girlfriend or wife of an Olympian. Then we've got 116 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: Gabby Sullivan now. She is a thirty one year old 117 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: model and influencer who owns a sportswear brand. Now, she 118 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: has three hundred and twenty two thousand followers on TikTok, 119 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: and Gabby married her longtime partner, Chad Cross in November 120 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: last year. Now, in terms of their friendship, the pair 121 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: became friends during the pandemic when Jackie moved from Melbourne 122 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: to Gabby's hometown of Perth, and it seemed like Jackie 123 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: was somewhat of a fan of Gabby before they met, 124 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: because she admitted that she followed Gabby on social media 125 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: for years, and with both of them being influencers, Gabby 126 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: was also familiar with Jackie and she suggested that they 127 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: catch up when she found out she was moving to Perth, 128 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: and it turns out they finally met when Jackie asked 129 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: Gabby to shoot for her fashion brand, and she later 130 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: admitted it was a dream come true for her. From there, 131 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: they clicked instantly and became best friends. That seems to 132 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: be a bit of the norm in the influencer world. 133 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of micro influencers watch bigger 134 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: influences from afar, then when they suddenly gain more of 135 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: a following, they then reach out and befriend them. Yeah. 136 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they were similar standings in the 137 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: influencing industry at that time. But as an up and 138 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: coming influence you're always going to follow other big influences 139 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: and have that sort of fan girl moment with them, 140 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: aren't you. And you're also going to have a lot 141 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: in common because you like doing the same thing creating content. Now, 142 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: it's not the first time that the pair have had 143 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: a friendship fallout. So in May last year, Jackie interviewed 144 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: Gabby on her podcast and they spoke about a fight 145 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: they had that broke up their friendship for eight months. 146 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: I found this episode so fascinating to listen to, particularly 147 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: at this point when we know there's another argument. 148 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: Going on Now. 149 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: They didn't go into the specifics of what happened this time. 150 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: They just said that something came between them that they 151 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: should have communicated better about. And they said that the 152 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: communication following the incident made things even worse. Apparently it 153 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: got so bad that they would still go to the 154 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: same gym but ignore each other. 155 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 2: That is so awkward. 156 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, and their partners got so sick of it that 157 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: they said, can you just text each other and catch up? 158 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Or does this remind me of something that the three 159 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: of us would do? But I think it's slightly different 160 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: when your sisters. Like the other night, we had a 161 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: Father's Day dinner and you were telling your husband Reese 162 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: that no, well. 163 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Brandon, I can't remember who, but you were telling. 164 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: Someone that I unfriended you on Facebook and then blocked 165 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: you and deleted you, up everything just for a reaction. 166 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Oh this was years ago, though, this wasn't recently. No, 167 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: not recently, not recently. But I think it's something petty 168 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: that you do. I think when your sisters, you can 169 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: kind of get away with it. But I think when 170 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: your friends, this really damages the core of the friendship. 171 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Doesn't say yeah, well, when I listened to the podcast, 172 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: they definitely had a sister dynamic, like they didn't mind 173 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: giving it back to each other. 174 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: Okay, it turns out. 175 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: That Jackie actually blocked Gabby on her stories because she 176 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: said she operates under this sort of out of sight, 177 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: out of mind thing, whereas Gabby said that she was 178 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: more toxic and likes to quote, know what this bitch is. 179 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: Doo, that's me. I could never do the block. I 180 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: want to know what your I. 181 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: Don't want to say enemy, but what your old friend 182 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: is up to. It's kind of like a relationship. I 183 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: never was the sort of person when I got broken 184 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: up with someone that would be able to just block 185 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: them and ignore. I just had to keep up with 186 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: their life. What they're doing too much? I think, yeah, 187 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: too much to my own detriment sometimes. 188 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 189 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Well, during this eight month radio silence between the pair, 190 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: Gabby actually got engaged to her long time partner and Jackie. 191 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: Didn't reach out. Wow. 192 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: They ended up reconnecting at a brand event, so this 193 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: brand didn't know that they were arguing and invited both 194 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: of them. 195 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: Wow. 196 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm so surprised that they were able to rekindle a 197 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: friendship after all of that. I mean, I know it 198 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: hasn't ended well well. 199 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: They admitted on. 200 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: This podcast that they'd had three smaller fights since that 201 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: big one. So one of the arguments took place on 202 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: the final day of Australian Fashion Week, so they were 203 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: staying together in Sydney and they were meant to be 204 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: looking at wedding dresses for Gabby on the last day 205 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: of the trip. 206 00:08:58,920 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: However, they said. 207 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: They ended up having an argument over whether a pub 208 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: is called a pub. 209 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: But throw to some of what they. 210 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: Said, angry you were hanging you on your period and 211 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: when Jackie's on her period, fucked me. Sorry, Nathan, Oh, 212 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: I'm a cow. 213 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: It's actually a move. 214 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like no, and I think I was just 215 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: like I just snapped and I shouldn't have called your cow, 216 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: but I just told you it. 217 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 2: I get it because I become like really annoying, and. 218 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 3: I was like, can you just not ruin this day 219 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: for me of being an absolute cow? 220 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: Like I'm taking for he's about this pub thing. 221 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: What else can a pub be known as? 222 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: Well? 223 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: I don't really know. 224 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's a Melbourne verse Perth thing because Jackie's 225 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: from Melbourne. Oh it's funny because I can actually imagine 226 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: us getting in a heated argument about the pronunciation of 227 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: something or whether the word is right for something like this. Well, 228 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: it turns out they also had another fight at the 229 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: start of twenty twenty four, and that was in front 230 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: of their mutual friend Lucia, who was visiting Perth the time. 231 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: So they took her on this trip to Rottness, Ireland 232 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: and they had this massive blow up on the ferry 233 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: in front of an older couple. They said they were 234 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: really going ham at each other and they had to 235 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: actually apologize to the couple who also were on the 236 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: ferry on the way back. I suppose no one in 237 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: the world has captured them arguing, because it seems like 238 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: they're having quite public spats. I think the most awkward 239 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: part of this interview was that they'd said that they'd 240 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: both really matured since the big fight and it's made 241 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: their friendships stronger. Yeah, so much so that Jackie actually 242 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: went on to be Gabby's maid of honor at her wedding. Well, 243 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: it was an honorary maid of honor because Gabby ended 244 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: up having quite a small ceremony. It was very extravagant, 245 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: but she only invited thirty people and she said she 246 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: wanted the vibe of the wedding to be like a 247 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: big dinner party with friends. That's how intimate West wedding was. 248 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: So Jackie was there getting ready with Gabby, but they 249 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: didn't have an official bridal party as such. Now, this 250 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: wedding took place in November last year, but by February 251 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: there was a lot of speculation that Jackie and Gabby 252 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: were not no longer friends because people noticed that they 253 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: weren't following each other anymore. It's a telltale sign. We 254 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: had so many people sliding into our dms asking us 255 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: to speak about this potential friendship bust up. I couldn't 256 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: believe how many people were interested in it, but we 257 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: didn't want to touch on it until there was something concrete. 258 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: Well. 259 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: Lucy Jackson and Nicky Westcott actually added a lot of 260 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: fuel to the fire around that time in February on 261 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: their podcast Happy Hour, because they spoke about how two 262 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: of their friends had a falling out and unfollowed each other, 263 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: and later in the episode they implied it was over 264 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: competitiveness and jealousy over weddings. I love that they dropped 265 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: that on their podcasts. I am a big fan of 266 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: the Happy Hour podcast and Nicky and Lucy. They seem 267 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: to be interested in the influence of tea despite being 268 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: influencers themselves, which I enjoyed. Yeah, particularly when they've got 269 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: a bit of tea to share. 270 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. Please share more. 271 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we don't have to speculate anymore because Gabby 272 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: has confirmed that they are no longer friends. Now. All 273 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: of this drama started last month when Jackie shared a 274 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: TikTok that seemingly commented on the friendship breakdown. So in 275 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: the video, Jackie is joined by none other than Rannie Bransbury, 276 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: which was a complete blast from the past. She lives 277 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: in Perth, so it kind of makes sense though it's 278 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: very Perth centric this story. 279 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 280 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: So Jackie, Rannie, and Gabby all used to be friends together. 281 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: They were in a bit of a trio. So Jackie 282 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: has filmed herself with Rannie and added text to the 283 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: screen that says what happened to the trio and in response, 284 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: Jackie mimes to the lyric oh Boy from the Sabrina 285 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: Carpet a song Manchild. The pair then shrug and look 286 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: at something on Rannie's phone, the shade I'm living for the. 287 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: Shade as you can imagine. 288 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: The comment section absolutely blew up, and while Gabby didn't comment, 289 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: she did like a comment that said Jackie threw a 290 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: fit at her wedding. Now. Another commenter pointed this out 291 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: and Jackie replied, I did throw a fit though my 292 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: dress ate Now. That comment got over four thousand likes. 293 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: Jackie then went on to defend herself, saying if this happened, 294 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: why would we have posted Fords videos from the wedding together. 295 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: Let's use critical thinking skills here. Well, it is a 296 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: good point because if there's been a massive bust up 297 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: at this wedding, you aren't posting photos of your honorary bridesmaid. 298 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: You're going to try and eliminate them from those posts. Well, 299 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: the follower replied to Jackie saying, I'm not saying it happened. 300 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying she's spreading this narrative, to which Jackie said, 301 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: I fear you are too, babe. Someone else wrote, wait, 302 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: what have I missed, and Jackie replied, nothing of no 303 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: queen now. Sofa Dofa also inserted herself into the narrative, 304 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: and she replied and a oop. Rannie Bransbick also wrote 305 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: over a bottle of wine, and Jackie replied, say less, 306 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: this to me feels like an old school influence a 307 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: few the way that the influencer's friends are actually getting 308 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: involved and weighing in. And I feel like we need 309 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: a bit more of this. Yes, it's a bit petty 310 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: and high school, but I feel like we need a 311 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: bit more of that injected into the influence the world 312 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: to make it more interesting, because for a while there 313 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: everyone's getting too boring. Oh it's so bloody entertaining. I've 314 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: been glued to this all week, and I came across 315 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: an old TikTok of Gabby's from last year in November, 316 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: where she referred to Jackie as her best friend. And 317 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: it seems like off the back of Jackie's TikTok, Gabby 318 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: has decided, well, maybe I'll reply to some of the 319 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: commentas on this video asking what had happened. So she 320 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: wrote back she ruined my wedding day and went on 321 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: to say we are definitely not friends anymore. She then 322 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: took things a step further and shared her own clap 323 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: back to TikTok on Thursday, and in the video, she 324 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: looked seriously at the camera with a text on the 325 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: screen that said, some people will never forgive you for 326 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: what they did to you. 327 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: Read that again. 328 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: Someone commented spill the tea. Jackie and Gabby ended up 329 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: writing under that the truth is simple. She got black 330 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: out at my wedding, yelled at me in front of 331 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: my entire family and made me cry. Obviously, after that, 332 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: our friendship never recovered. I'm just trying to move on 333 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: with my life. We are literally grown adults, and it's 334 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: so sad and embarrassing. Some girls thrive on drama and 335 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: bulling in twenty twenty five and others. A pretty big 336 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: accusation from Gabby. Ah, that's a massive accusation, and Jackie 337 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: responded with her own clap back, and it was quite 338 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: the timing because she was celebrating her Hen's party, which 339 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: also appears to be a collab with Cat the Label, 340 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: and Jackie shared a video from her Hen's party where 341 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: she was posing for photos sitting in the back of 342 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: a convertible with text on the screen that said, ain't 343 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: nobody safe When I'm a little bit drunk. The lyrics 344 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: of that song also played, and Jackie added the caption 345 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: read that Again, which was a copy of Gabby's caption. 346 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: I love that she took time out of her hens 347 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: to do this. It shows how much she's obviously impacting her. 348 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: Someone commented under the post, so we've heard, and Jackie replied, 349 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: talking about me again, because no one listens when they 350 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: speak about themselves. Now, Jackie just keeps delivering. So on 351 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: Friday she backed it up with a TikTok of her 352 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: strutting through the airport with the caption me trying to 353 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: act like I'm not slowly losing my mind, And underneath 354 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: the post someone wrote, we need your side asap, and 355 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: Jackie replied, God forbid, a girl has a dream. She 356 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: does have a point, because Gabby is really painting Jackie 357 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: to be someone who can't handle their alcohol. And it 358 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: seems to be quite clear from the fact that they've 359 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: had a friendship bust up before that it's not just 360 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: to do with this one incident. 361 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of things brewing in the background. 362 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: They clearly just clash heads. 363 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems to be a systemic problem. And I 364 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: found this focus on alcohol really interesting because as research 365 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: for this episode, I listened to the episode of Jackie's 366 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: podcast where she interviewed Gabby, and Gabby was talking about 367 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: her life and she grew up as I suppose, a 368 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: teen model, and when she was fifteen, she actually moved 369 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: to Asia by herself and was in this model house 370 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: and she said they used to go. 371 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: Out all the time. 372 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: They didn't really worry about IDs where she was living, 373 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: and she got into alcohol pretty early and that's part 374 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: of the reason that she's now sober. And she spoke 375 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: about how her and her partner are both sober and 376 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: she kind of wishes she could have a sneaky champagne 377 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: on her wedding as liquid courage, and Jackie was like, oh, well, 378 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: I'll have one for you. And so it seems to 379 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: me perhaps this is a case of their life style's. 380 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: Not Oh definitely. 381 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's safe to say that Jackie is a 382 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: bit of a party girl, so it would be hard 383 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: as her friend if you're trying to live this sober lifestyle. 384 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: Maybe she feels like she's been left out of a 385 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: few nights out as well. 386 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: Who knows. 387 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: Well. It was interesting because during this interview on Jackie's podcast, 388 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: they were talking about, well, what is it like being 389 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: the only sober friend? And she said, I remember every 390 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: little embarrassing thing everyone else does, but they don't remember 391 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: shit what I did. Oh, so does it sound like 392 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: she's sort of lauding their behavior over them. Yeah, I 393 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: did get that vibe. And I mean, we don't know 394 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: what actually happened at this wedding, but we've got Rannie 395 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: Bransby sort of backing up Jackie's claims. You know that 396 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: they were just having a few drinks. So maybe it 397 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: was a case of a lot of the girls were 398 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: drinking and having fun. You know, when you're in that 399 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: mood and you're drinking, you don't know how loud you're being. 400 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: And then you've got Gabby who was so maybe wishing 401 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: that she could have a drink at her wedding, and 402 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: it seems really Yeah, I do feel a bit for 403 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: Gabby though, as the person who is generally well is 404 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: always the sober friend I don't drink. It can be 405 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: hard when you're out and about and your friends are 406 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: being obnoxious and acting like Dix really and you're like 407 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: just rein it in, particularly for a wedding. You're not 408 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: saying that, not saying that Jackie's actually done anything wrong. 409 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: At the wedding. 410 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, But the thing is if you're both sober as 411 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: the bride and groom, and you're having this very intimate 412 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: wedding where there's only thirty people. Everyone knows you really well. 413 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: And if you don't want it to be a party 414 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: vibe with alcohol, why don't you. 415 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: Just not serve it. Yeah, that's a good point. We joked. 416 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: My husband and I joke that we wouldn't serve any 417 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: alcohol at our wedding. But we had about one hundred 418 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: people and we're like, well, no one will probably come 419 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: and no one will give a present if we did that, 420 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it would be a popular decision. 421 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: No. Now. 422 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: The Daily Mail ended up covering this story and they 423 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: reached out to Jackie, who ended up giving them a statement. 424 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: She said to set their record straight. I did not 425 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: yell at Gabby's wedding, nor did I ruin her day. 426 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: We continue to remain friends post her wedding day. There 427 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: is a deeper problem and level of the story which 428 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: is missing, as anyone who has been in a toxic 429 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: friendship will completely understand, sometimes people aren't meant to be friends, 430 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: and that's simply what has happened here. In the end, 431 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: it wasn't healthy for the both of us, and that's 432 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: why it ended, which had already happened once before, but 433 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: I chose to forgive her and try again. These accusations 434 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: are false and hurtful. What has been more upsetting is 435 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: the ongoing bulling and public shaming directed at me, since 436 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: I have always respected that it was Gabby's special day 437 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: and I would never want to take away from that. 438 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: But respect goes both ways. I would not stand by 439 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: silently while my. 440 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: Character is attacked. 441 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: That is a pretty strong statement to put out there, 442 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: and I do feel for Jackie because there is this 443 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: particular narrative and story being built around her and her 444 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: consumption of alcohol, which is pretty unfounded and quite unfair. Yeah, 445 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: I think the fact that she was confident enough to 446 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: give this statement to The Daily Mail speaks volumes. Gabby's 447 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: very clever because she knows that there's nothing more than 448 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail in particular, love than a story where 449 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: a bride and a bride'smaid ap pitted against each other 450 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: and the bride'smaid has tried to steal the show or 451 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: ruin the day. Because I think even just with normal people, 452 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: weddings really do generate a lot of friendship bust up. 453 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: So they bring out the worst and people. 454 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: They do be honest, and there's so many people who 455 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: have no longer been friends with someone after a wedding. 456 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: They do say that sometimes your wedding will be the 457 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: last place that you see some of your friends. And 458 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: I think that's why this story resonates with so many people, 459 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: because not only is it a friendship bust up, which 460 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: a lot of us has been through, but it's also 461 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: due to a wedding. 462 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: Got to take the kiss of school in a minute. 463 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: I went to Melbourne. 464 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: I've got a brand event and stuff like super quick 465 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: trip should be fine. It appears things are heating up 466 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: between Tammy Hembro and Bailey Smith, with Tammy spending the 467 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: second weekend in a row in the AFL player's hometown 468 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: of Melbourne. It seems pretty serious and we touched on 469 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: last week. But it's bloody awkward because Tammy's ex husband, 470 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: Matt Sakowski, is of course from Melbourne as well. She 471 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: never seemed to be there when they were dating. Yeah, 472 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: because it was always Matt Sakowski who was having to 473 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: jump on the plane to the Gold Coast put in 474 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: the effort to go and visit Tammy and her family 475 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: do we reckon It's because in that situation that was 476 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: the lesser known person. He was just some guy off 477 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: a reality show, whereas Tammy was the big star. But 478 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: now Tammy's in a situation where Bailey Smith in Australia 479 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: is more mainstream known than her, So he is the 480 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: bigger mainstream celebrity. Yeah. I think being an AFL player, 481 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: he's definitely put on a pedestal in saying that, though. 482 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: I think it has to do with the fact that 483 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 1: at the moment he's in a finals campaign and he 484 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: can't just drop everything to fly to the Gold Coast 485 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: every weekend. That's a good point. Is actually got shit 486 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: going on. He's got a bit going through him as well. 487 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean Tammy does as well. She's got her businesses 488 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: and her children. But it shows how much she wants 489 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: this new romance to work. Yeah. Well, she just keeps 490 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: using these brand events that she's invited to that she 491 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: would never normally go to as an excuse to go 492 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: to Melbourne. She actually shared a TikTok updating her followers 493 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: about her weekend plans and get Ready with Me video. Now, 494 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: she didn't mention Bailey, but she said she was going 495 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: on a fun, super quick trip to Melbourne for a 496 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: brand event and stuff. And the brand event in question 497 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: was for a fashion label, and they must have been 498 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: thanking they're lucky stars at the timing because the media 499 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: were in full force to get pictures of Tammy. How 500 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: many Melbourne brands are going to be reaching out to Tammy? 501 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Now we've got this fantastic event in Melbourne, You've got 502 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: to come along. 503 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 504 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: Well, the media had an absolute field day at this 505 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: event because Tammy rocked up in this sarong style dress 506 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: with a plunging neckline, and the media were reporting that 507 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: she nearly had a wardrobe malfunction, which which means basically. 508 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: Her boobs were about to pop out. 509 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: That's very early two thousands, the whole wardrobe malfunctions stories, 510 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: isn't it. It reminds me of when Jennifer Hawkins genuinely 511 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: had a wardrobe malfunction and I think she was wearing 512 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: a strong actually and her sarong fell off when she 513 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: was walking down the runway. But you know how funny 514 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: it is, it just showed off her g string bikini 515 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: like now everyone's just wearing now. The media also spotted 516 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: at this event that Tammy was wearing a twenty five 517 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: thousand dollar Cartier watch and they are claiming that this 518 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: must be a gift from Bailey. I mean, I think 519 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: they're forgetting that Tammy Hembro is worth fifty million dollars. 520 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: I think she can. 521 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: Buy her own Cartier what and out of those two, 522 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: if someone is going to be gifting someone a twenty 523 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars watch, it's going to be Tammy for Bailey. Now, 524 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: Geelong are in the finals at the moment, and I'm 525 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: not usually one who wants to sit down and watch 526 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: the footy on the weekend, but I wanted to see 527 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: if I could spot Tammy Hembro in the crowd. It 528 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: is still unknown if she was in the stand supporting Bailey. 529 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: I didn't see her myself, and no pap shots have 530 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: appeared yet. I feel like if she was there in 531 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: the wild, someone would have snapped a photo and she 532 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: had it to TikTok. But then again, maybe it's not 533 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: the demographic that's interested in Tammy Hembro. What we do 534 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: know is that she was in Melbourne, so she probably 535 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: celebrated with him at the very least after It seems 536 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: like she's a bit of a lucky charm because Geelong 537 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: won and they're through to the pre limb. I just 538 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: love that Tammy Hembro is entering her wag era, particularly 539 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: after her divorce. It's a bit of fun. She's on 540 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: the sidelines. I'm here for it. I love it bringing 541 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: a bit of glamour back to the AFL. Isn't she 542 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: blitz and glamour. I'm just counting down the days to 543 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: the Brownlow to be completely honest with. 544 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: Do you actually think she's going to be at it? 545 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: Yes, I definitely do think she's going to be at it. 546 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: She is gearing up to be at the Brownlow. 547 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: Do we reckon? 548 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: We'll see a bit of a sponsored number for her outfit. 549 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: We had Vera Waang who provided some wedding dresses for her, 550 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: which she's currently trying to sell. 551 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: Maybe she could rewear one of the dresses. 552 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: I mean it was pink, isn't it When people get divorced, 553 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: didn't they used to trash their dresses or die? Then 554 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: maybe she could dye the dress a different color, given 555 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: another spin. Yeah. Well, it's been reported that she's had 556 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: a lot of designers reach out to her, but the 557 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: strong rumor is that influencer stylist Paul Fasaci will be 558 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: dressing her for the eventually. Because he's very controversial at 559 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: the moment, he is now talking about controversials over. I 560 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about what Bailey said after 561 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: the game to the media, because I haven't heard this. 562 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: This is an epic quote. He was asked what he's 563 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: going to do with his week off footy because they've 564 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: got a buy in between waiting to play the prelimb, 565 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: and he said, probably get on the piss for a bit, 566 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: relax the mind, hang out with my mates. I think 567 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: there will definitely be a sneaky trip to the Gold 568 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: Coast thrown in there. What does his coach think about 569 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: him saying this? 570 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: See, I actually like this. 571 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: I feel like they're bringing a bit of character back 572 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: to the game. I know over the weekend, Nick Daykos 573 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: got in trouble because he said the F word during 574 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: a press conference, and like, what will little children think? 575 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: And I kind of understand it from that perspective if. 576 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: They're not hearing on TikTok. 577 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just love having a bit of character 578 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: to the game, like a bit of fun. As a 579 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: Crow's supporter, I hope that Bailey Smith does get on 580 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: the beers and then he heads to the Gold Coast 581 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: and he's not in full form if they're to face 582 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: them in the prelim final, because that what a shit 583 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: game that was on the weekend. Yeah, I'm one of 584 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: those Crows fans who I'm jumping back on the bandwagon. 585 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: I've been off the bandag for about ten years. It 586 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: used to be a die hard Crows fank. We would 587 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: cry if they lost. And now that we've finished as 588 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: minor premier. Sorry, this is a bit of footy talk 589 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: for people we might not be interested, but as we 590 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: finished as minor premiers, I'm back. I'm wanting to actually 591 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: watch the games. I had to beg my husband, who's 592 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: a massive port fan. We actually watched the Crows games. 593 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: Are you okay? What's wrong with you? 594 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 595 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: We watched it as well. It was so funny seeing 596 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: Taylor Walker play his three hundredth game and his son's 597 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: standing on the sidelines in a Nick Daykos jumper. 598 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: It was hilarious. 599 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: But those who haven't seen it somehow his son is Louis. 600 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: I can't rember his name, but he is a massive 601 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: fan of Collingwood and Nick Daykos and these social media 602 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: teams for the Crows and Colin would have been having 603 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: some fun with it. So he actually got to meet 604 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: Nick and he presented him with a jersey. Taylor Walker 605 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: was such a good sport though. He patted him on 606 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: the back, gave his son a hug. It was the 607 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: first thing he bloody saw as he's being chair lifted 608 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: off after a very bad loss for the Crows. Yeah, 609 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: now we will get away from footy talk because some 610 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: of our listeners may be snoring their heads. 611 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: Off, but in fact we used to want to be 612 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: sports journals. Happened to us. 613 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's why I'm loving the influencer in sports. 614 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: Well collide, Yeah, the crossover. Now back to Tammy Hembro. 615 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: She continues to bless us with very entertaining snapchats and 616 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: while she was in Melbourne over the weekend, she filmed 617 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: herself miming in the back of an uber and she 618 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: panned her camera across as if she was going to 619 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: show who she was sitting next to, but then just 620 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: showed an empty seat and gave it the finger. 621 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: When she was. 622 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: Back on the Gold Coast on Sunday, she also filmed 623 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: a TikTok where she was in her car playing up 624 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: how difficult it is to date. So the caption on 625 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: the screen said, trying to be cool in the talking stage, 626 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: but you have no game. I have still agree Tammy 627 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: doesn't have any game. She's probably not used to the 628 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: chatting dating stage because got no game. When I say 629 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: she doesn't have game, obviously she does have game. Everyone 630 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: saying she's collected three engagement rings. 631 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: She does have game. 632 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: But what she doesn't have is she's not used to 633 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: being in a casual, fun, relaxed relationship. Everything goes from 634 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: zero to one hundred with her, so she's probably liked 635 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: a second. Why isn't this guy proposed to me yet? Yeah, 636 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: that is true, because if we reflect on a relationship 637 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: with Mattzakowski, she should already have Bailey Smith's name tattooed somewhere. 638 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: That'll be a new rumor that the Daily Mail will 639 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: be running. Yeah, first heard and outspoken. 640 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: Don't quote us on that one, because we have absolutely 641 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: no proof of that. No. The thing is, though, she's 642 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: also dealing with someone who is quite a bit younger 643 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: than her in that gen Z demographic who he's the 644 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: face of Tinder at the moment, he's you know, into 645 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: casual dating apparently, so I. 646 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 2: Wonder if he still is on Tinder. 647 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: Please, if you're on Tinder and you see him on there, 648 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: let us know, as if he's actually on tin he's 649 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: not talking to anyone now. Meanwhile, the Daily Mail have 650 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: tried their hardest to conjure up a story about Tammy 651 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: being involved in a neighborhood feud that sounds very today tonight. 652 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: Oh so I saw these pap photos on Influence Updates 653 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: AU and I was like, oh my god, what an 654 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: invasion of privacy because the photos were of the exterior 655 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: of Tammy's home, literally doxing her address, and the pictures 656 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: were of this big ton of cardboard out the front. 657 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: Obviously she'd done a big unpackaging. Well, it's probably a 658 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: lot of pr packages that she gets sent. I heavily 659 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: related to this because we have a trailer filled with 660 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: cardboard which sits to the side of our house, which 661 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: is quite ugly to look at. But from having a baby, 662 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: you buy so many things. They all come in large boxes. 663 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: Our couch came in a large box. 664 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: You can't get rid of this shit. 665 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, just as regular people, you deal with a 666 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: lot of cardboards, so imagine, you know, express and thought 667 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: for the influencers that have ten ton of it. There 668 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: were also photos of like shoes. 669 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: Piled out at the front. I'm like, she's got three kids. 670 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they also noted that the light fitting was 671 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: a bit rusty and the fence was stained. I'm like, 672 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: this woman runs two businesses and has three children and 673 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, is a single mum. 674 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: Can we give her a bit of slack? 675 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: She's also been flitting back and forward to mel but 676 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: she might not have had time to do it on 677 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: the weekend. So is the crux of this story that 678 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 1: the neighbor has apparently complained and sent them through the photo. 679 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: Yes. 680 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: So apparently the Daily Mail spotted some anonymous comments on 681 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: Tammy's posts about how there was a neighborhood feud because 682 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: Tammy's not maintaining her front yard up to the standard 683 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: that her neighbors want. So they flew a journalist across 684 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: to investigate. And this journalist obviously took the pap down, 685 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: took photos of the front yard and then she started 686 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: doing a door knock of the area and was asking 687 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: Tammy's neighbors about her I mean, I wonder if they 688 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: went through the bins like. I don't want to turn 689 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: my nose up at this sort of story, because I 690 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: did used to Eka today tonight, and this is the 691 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: exact sort of shit that we would concentrate on. Neighborhood 692 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: feuds thrown in with an influencer. 693 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: It's a great story. 694 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: I actually loved that the Daily Mail was dedicated enough 695 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: to send a journal out their door knocking. 696 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: Usually they just make shit up. I don't want to 697 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: give them too much props. 698 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: It seems like a complete invasion of privacy because they 699 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: were literally going to all her neighbors being like, what 700 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: do you know? 701 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: What does she do? 702 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: It is an invasion of privacy. But we've said for 703 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: a while now that investigative journalism is dead. 704 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: Clearly it is not. 705 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, what the journalists managed to uncover is that 706 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: Tammy has a gardener once a fortnight and that the 707 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: people were just being malicious on social media. But they 708 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: did manage to tack on at the end that an 709 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: anonymous neighbor said that Tammy was quite unpopular on the 710 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: street and wasn't friendly. I would literally hate if an 711 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: investigtive journalist came down to speak to our neighbors when 712 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: the three of us lived together, because my golly, they 713 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: would have some stories about the constant arguing and yelling 714 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: that came from out At least they went to our 715 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: family home, because our dad is your typical retired man 716 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: who is you know, has an issue when people park 717 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: out the front of his house. It's funny because I 718 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: remember growing up, we saw a neighbor and her mum said, oh, yes, 719 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: we spent the weekend that goa and the neighbor responded. 720 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: Yes, we know. 721 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: We couldn't hear your kids screaming in the backyards like 722 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: a lot. 723 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 4: Of guys for the past, like tennys. 724 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: For weeks now, rumors have been swirling that Sarah's Day's husband, 725 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: Kurt Tills, is set to undergo a hair transplant. Speculation 726 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: was ignited when Kurt popped up in the background of 727 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: one of Sarah's reels, sporting a freshly shaved head. Now so, 728 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: the new look seemed to shock a lot of Sarah's followers, 729 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: with one describing it as a jump scare. I also 730 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: got a bit of a jump scare when I saw 731 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: him pop up. I mean, his initial appearance was so 732 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: quick that you could have blinked and missed it because 733 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: he appeared in a reel which was focused around their 734 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: son Fox cooking, so he was cooking up some healthy 735 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: cupcakes for his family, and Kurt was literally in the 736 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: video for i'd say a millisecond eating one of the cupcakes. 737 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: But his fleeting appearance seemed to rock some followers to 738 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: their core because with no warning, Kurt, who has been 739 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: a permanent fixture on this channel since twenty seventeen, was 740 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: suddenly bald. And not only was he bald, but he 741 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: looked like an egg because his head was so shiny 742 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: and pale. He usually has. 743 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: A bit of a tan to him. It was just 744 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: a very dramatic change. 745 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a bit harsh to say he 746 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: looks like an egg. But what I think you're trying 747 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: to say is that it's not like he finally bit 748 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: the bullet, because he has been losing his hair for 749 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: a bit. It's not like he finally went I'm going 750 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: to go and get it shaved off. I've got a 751 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: bit of you know, stubble on the head. It was 752 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: like literally very extreme close shaved. 753 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: It was very close shave. 754 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: Well. I wasn't the only one who was shocked. The 755 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: top comment under the video was where is Kurt's hair? 756 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: All in capitals, and that comment received over five hundred likes. 757 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: Another follower said that they almost died when they saw 758 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: the bald head, whilst another said they nearly pulled their 759 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: neck reeling from the quick flash of Kurt's head. I 760 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: have to admit that this screenshot of Kurt's bald head 761 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: it did the rounds in our group chat, because I, 762 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: for one, wasn't sitting through Fox's cooking video. It was 763 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: quite a lengthy video. It was Amy who was very 764 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: quick with the screen shot. Yeah, I do want to 765 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: point out that there is absolutely nothing wrong with having 766 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: a ball head or shaving your head. It's just definitely 767 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: not I've been saying he should do it for years 768 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: because he, as Sarah pointed out, for ten years, he's 769 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: been losing his hair and he has been holding onto 770 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: the scraps. 771 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 2: A bit, hasn't it. 772 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, he and Sarah have been very upfront with the 773 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: fact that he's been losing his hair and is not 774 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: really sure what to do with it. They've spoken about 775 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: him trying different hairstars, and that's what I was most 776 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: surprised about. The fact that she just dropped it in 777 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: this reel with no explanation, because remember when she first 778 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 1: cut her son Fox's hair, because they let it grow 779 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: really long, and it was at the stage where they're like, oh, 780 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: we've got to cut it because we can't actually get 781 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: a brush through it. And she teased it for weeks 782 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: that they were going to do this unveiling of Fox's 783 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: new hair. 784 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: So I'm surprised that Kurt's. 785 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: Hair transformation wasn't used as contents. Yeah, she's really missed 786 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: an opportunity there to click bait, hasn't she. 787 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 2: I mean, she's probably too busy with her three children now. 788 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: Sarah is known for weighing in in the comment section, 789 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: and she decided to respond to a follower who wrote, wait, 790 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: why is Kurt Bold? She replied saying, I have a 791 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: lot to update you on. Make sure you're watching my 792 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: YouTube blogs, and this response led her followers to start 793 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: speculating that perhaps Kurt was set to undergo a hair transplant. Well, 794 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: it seems to be something that a lot of men 795 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: are getting done now. On the most recent series of 796 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: Love Ireland, it came out that Harry and Ben both 797 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 1: that had hair plugged so the media managed to dig 798 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: up these before and after photos of them from like 799 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: some hair transplant clinic in Turkey. Oh, the transformation was 800 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: pretty dramatic. 801 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: Oh, it's so good. That's the thing. 802 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 1: I would think, because Kurt and Sarah have so much money, 803 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: why not get a hair transplant if it's something that 804 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: is bothering you. Yeah. And particularly when Kurt joined Sarah's 805 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: YouTube channel, he was kind of like the Ken to 806 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: her Barbie. Like, he was this pinup guy who was 807 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: very fit, and he had blonde hair, he had a 808 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: tan rock a fake tan. He seemed to be very 809 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: into his appearance. I think as he's gotten older, he 810 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: hasn't placed as much importance into it. 811 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 2: Side note, I'm. 812 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: A bit of a fan of the videos on TikTok 813 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: where bald men go and get the wigs. 814 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: Done although glue on white. 815 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're shocked at how much. 816 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: Better they look. 817 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: Sorry, I know that sounds really harsh, but it's a 818 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: dramatic transformation for some men. I mean some men absolutely 819 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: rock a bald head. I mean you think of David Beckham, 820 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: he looks great with his buzzcut. Well, there's those guys 821 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: that actually get the sort of hair stubble tattooed onto 822 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: it and it actually looks really good. 823 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 824 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: The thing is, I think a lot of people assume 825 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: that this was also a hair transplant due to the 826 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: fact that Sarah was saying, look out for my video. 827 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: There's something coming. Maybe people thought that there was some 828 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: sort of sponsorship deal with a surgeon, which I mean 829 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: I would have thought that maybe surgeons would be reaching up, 830 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: particularly surgeons in Australia who might be trying to generate 831 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: interest in it because a lot of people fly Turkey, 832 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: but you could get it done in Australia. Also because 833 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: back in the day, Sarah got a deal for Kurt 834 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: with a dentist that got his teeth strange. Yeah, Sarah 835 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: definitely knows how to generate Engagement's been very good at it, 836 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: and she knows what her audience wants. So when she 837 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: dropped her latest YouTube video, she included in the title 838 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: Kurts bald, so people automatically wanted to click on it, 839 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: and they decided to address the news with humor, which 840 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: I quite enjoyed. Let's throw to a snippet of what 841 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: they said. 842 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 4: We have major family news and I'm really sorry you guys. 843 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 4: Didn't even get his say goodbye, and it's going to 844 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 4: be a jump scare, and it may be it may 845 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 4: really emotionally affect a few people on the channel, but 846 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 4: now there's a conspiracy going around on the comment felt 847 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 4: like he's bald because he's getting. 848 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 2: A hair traced. 849 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 4: Like, no, I just shaved it all off to get 850 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 4: rid of it. 851 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 2: Tell us the story. I was in the gym. 852 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: I took my hat off and my hair was just 853 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: sitting in a weird position, and I was like, Nah, 854 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: stuff this and get rid of it. 855 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 3: So I'm MESSI Sarah, I said, hell, the boys get 856 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 3: the shaver out shav. 857 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: So what he shaved his head at the gym? 858 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: No, no, no, He waited until he got home and 859 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: he got Fox and Malachi, his sons, to each take 860 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: turns at shaving his head. So he knelt down in 861 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: the shower so that the hair would all go in 862 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: there whilst they were shaving his head, and you could 863 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: tell he was almost regretting it as it was going on. 864 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: Causerah's like, are you sure that you want to do this? 865 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 1: And he's like not really? Oh God? 866 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: So is that why it was such a close shave? 867 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: Because they probably had these kids hacking at it, and 868 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: they're like, well, we're going to have to just go 869 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: right to the scout. 870 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: Maybe it'll look better once it grows back a little bit. Oh, 871 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 2: I think it. Definitely. 872 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: He's a nice looking guy. He's got a nice face, Like, 873 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: of course he'll be able to rock the balllet head. 874 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: It just needs a bit more stubble to go through. 875 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: I love that they actually addressed the conspiracy theories. I'm 876 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: a fan of when influence has actually touch on what 877 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: everyone's been saying in the comment section instead of just 878 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: ignoring it. Yeah, well, good on him. I kind of 879 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: like that he just dealt with it like a band 880 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: aid straight off. 881 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: I also had to laugh when their son Fox. 882 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: Was like, you're bold, brother, You're bold. 883 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 2: That was what he's funny. 884 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: Well, that is where we are going to leave things today. 885 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: But if you do want to hear more content from us, 886 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: as we mentioned at the start of the episode, we 887 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: drop a subscriber only episode every Thursday. It is now 888 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: available on our Spotify feed, much easier to subscribe to 889 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: if you do want to subscribe. All the details are 890 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: in the show notes. Again, that show is just an 891 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: extension of this show. Basically, and I think we're a 892 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: bit more unhinged on there. Is that the right word 893 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: unhinged or just a bit more unfiltered. It's probably a 894 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: nice When we have our discussions about what topics we're 895 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: going to cover on the regular shows, we're always like, oh, 896 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: maybe just like that one for the subs. I think 897 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: I feel we're comfortable talking about it on the subs. 898 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: It's pretty good timing because my son is waking up 899 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: for his two hour nap. He's decided to start screaming, 900 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: so I'm perfect timing. I'm very impressed with him. It's 901 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: been quite relaxing, thanks for the podcast. He's throwing his 902 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: legs around in there at the moment, so I better 903 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: go in. But this episode was recorded on the traditional 904 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. 905 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: We pay respect to Elder's past and present.