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Speaker 1: It is just ten minutes away from ten o'clock. And

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Speaker 1: joining me on the line right now is the independent

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Speaker 1: member for god A Kezier Puric. Good morning Kezier, Hey,

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Speaker 1: good morning Katy Kezier. How are you going? Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you in well caught up in this situation at

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Speaker 1: the moment, Yes, I am.

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Speaker 2: Katie and everyone else who attended the Middle and Cup

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Speaker 2: days at mid of Mark Hub because of the lying

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Speaker 2: woman from Melbourne. I was a good five girl and

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Speaker 2: we got to check yesterday in the morning saying come

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Speaker 2: in contact with a close contact. And thought that can't

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Speaker 2: be right because I knew about the mid Mark server

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Speaker 2: being across a place of interest, so I rang them

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Speaker 2: to check and I said, look, it's not on the

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Speaker 2: government's website. I'll checked there too. I own toney Nescy Own.

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Speaker 2: I said, Tony, have you heard anything? And he said

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Speaker 2: yoln and he's the owner of the business. But the

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Speaker 2: lady on the government COVID line did say that there's

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Speaker 2: possibly is a delay and it'd be up there soon.

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Speaker 2: And she said there's two locations this in me in

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Speaker 2: my cabin and the Humpty Hub. And I went, god, ye, hell,

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Speaker 2: you have all days no updates. But there's a couple

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Speaker 2: there's a couple of things. You know, the chief manage

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Speaker 2: to come out and trying to name and show of

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Speaker 2: business that is just outrageous. You know, when did you

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Speaker 2: get off doing that? I was there and all my

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Speaker 2: mates are there and lots a lot of people. I know,

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Speaker 2: there's no way there was three hundred and fifty people there,

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Speaker 2: you know, I know how that place can hold. And

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Speaker 2: I've seen here on other Melbourne Cup days and I

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Speaker 2: put a guess at it about two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty. So you know, if he's trying

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Speaker 2: to scare among the people, well at the extent of

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Speaker 2: someone else, and particularly a business which is going through

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Speaker 2: tough times anyway, I mean, that's just shameful, you know.

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Speaker 2: And it goes goes to this show again that he's

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Speaker 2: not a leader's replace. So that's for sure. That pub

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Speaker 2: is a good pub. It's got a long history. It's

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Speaker 2: got a long history. I mean, I know when it

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Speaker 2: can bring a kid Tony his family is very hard

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Speaker 2: in that business to provide lots of entertainment, you know,

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Speaker 2: to lots of people over the years.

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Speaker 1: Well, Keys here we caught up with tiny just a

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Speaker 1: short time ago, and he obviously he'd said that he

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Speaker 1: coppted it on the chane obviously that you know that

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Speaker 1: they could have been doing more to make sure that

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Speaker 1: people were checking in. I still think that we all

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Speaker 1: need a bit of personal responsibility when it comes to

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Speaker 1: checking in, because the reality is, like you know, even

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Speaker 1: at your sporting events and community events, not everyone's got

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Speaker 1: a volunteer or got somebody there to make sure that

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Speaker 1: absolutely every person's checking in, like we should be doing

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Speaker 1: it ourselves.

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Speaker 2: It is tough, but I agree that we all have

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Speaker 2: to take some responsibility. I mean, we take responsibility for

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Speaker 2: our pin number, for our cards and make sure that

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Speaker 2: that's kept well hidden in our brain somewhere. But clearly

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Speaker 2: obviously with myself and my friend he will checked in

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Speaker 2: because that's why we've got a text. And I woke

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Speaker 2: to a couple of other people on me there and

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Speaker 2: I no, no, I think I forgot. I think we'll

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Speaker 2: get on the COVID line now, And they did. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I agree with turning. I've been to I've been to

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Speaker 2: many businesses and so though the stats are probably one

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Speaker 2: of the main ones I don't worry about. I've got

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Speaker 2: the piece of paper there and if I haven't got

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Speaker 2: my posing, just starting to put my name in. But

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Speaker 2: I think you're right that there has to be some

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Speaker 2: kind of education program that goes out across the business

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Speaker 2: community and in other places, you know, technical football matches.

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Speaker 2: Make sure that people do do the right things for

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Speaker 2: as long.

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Speaker 1: As you have to do it.

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Speaker 2: So when this kind of thing happens, I mean adding

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Speaker 2: up the Ludamarte tub attendant pub plus the hunt to

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Speaker 2: Do pub attendant plus wherever else this woman went. You know,

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Speaker 2: that could have been just a rite of cases across

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Speaker 2: the top end, and they would have been varied those dads.

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Speaker 2: So I think there has to be a reinforcement of

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Speaker 2: that message. If you don't have this def con with you,

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Speaker 2: please find the piece of paper. Some businesses are deadly,

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Speaker 2: like I know one business in Whene. You can get

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Speaker 2: tools and all tools and they will not let you

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Speaker 2: come into the shop unless you check in. Now, that's

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Speaker 2: obviously a corporate position and good for them, so but

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Speaker 2: not everyone's like that, and I think that's where some

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Speaker 2: extra work needs to be done. And the other thing, Katie,

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Speaker 2: I think we need to seriously look at the penalty

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Speaker 2: for this kind of person like the Wa experience should

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Speaker 2: be looked at very carefully and plas you need should

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Speaker 2: copy that. With those two b stuck up the day

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Speaker 2: to go to the football match, they got chucked straight

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Speaker 2: in the slammer and didn't get any bail until they

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Speaker 2: went to court. Now this woman's.

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Speaker 1: Pleasy, Do you reckon? That's what we should be doing here.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 1: We need to go a step further than just the

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Speaker 1: five thousand dollar fine or whatever's been flagged and actually

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Speaker 1: make her do some jail time.

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Speaker 2: Yes I do, I mean crew months whatever. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what they did in Wa, but I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be riding to their tenant and not asking the government

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Speaker 2: to look at it because we're going to be with

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Speaker 2: this pandemic for quite a while and if there's one

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Speaker 2: person like this lying woman, there'll be another person, man

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Speaker 2: or woman. Now, she had the potential to infect the

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Speaker 2: whole community across Darwin and the rural area, bring great

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Speaker 2: strength and hurts not only the individuals but to businesses,

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Speaker 2: the government resources. Like when I went to the testing

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Speaker 2: station at Marva, I mean there were dozens of people

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Speaker 2: who are doing what they have to do. They've all

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Speaker 2: got to be recruited. They've all got to be employed.

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Speaker 2: But the cost of the community from her actions should

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Speaker 2: be added up and then that should be weighed upon

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Speaker 2: her and then possibly looking at jail time. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: I've had great comments on my Facebook and elsewhere talking

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Speaker 2: to people and they agree, they are horrified that, you know,

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Speaker 2: she blatantly lies. And I don't know whether she knew

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Speaker 2: where she's interested or not, but as soon as she

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Speaker 2: started to see you know, well she would have known.

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Speaker 2: You know, you just can't go out of deliberately and

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Speaker 2: maliciously set out to potentially harm communities. There has to

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Speaker 2: be a strongness you sent to people like that here

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Speaker 2: in the churchy and elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: Well. Kisiopureic, the independent member for Goid. We always appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time. I was gonna say, will we see you

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Speaker 1: Friday for the week that was?

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Speaker 2: But what do you have to do now you're going

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Speaker 2: to be in no I've got to stay bas you

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Speaker 2: stay home in closing, they they stay, if you come

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Speaker 2: from a hot spot or whatever, I'll be in a close, close,

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Speaker 2: close contact. You still have to stay for another seven days.

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Speaker 2: I've got to stay or six days because you've been

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Speaker 2: in contact with the close person. I think I get

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Speaker 2: tested again on the Sunday, so the sixteenth, I think

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Speaker 2: is when I can get out about again. So probably

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Speaker 2: not the fine okay, unless you want to do it

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Speaker 2: by face time.

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Speaker 1: Well, Kesi Epuric, we'll catch up with you again very soon,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. I always appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks, thanks,