1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: It's a woman Woody podcast mini. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: But when you're in a rush or just can't be 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: bothered listening to them blather on for half an hour, 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: this is probably the most scarring audio I can remember 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: in the last little while. This is George Floyd Well 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: getting killed. 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: Please please please please. 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally wild. We all remember Derek Chauvin obviously had 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: his knee on him that really hectic, awful footage. Well, 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: today was the day that we found out the verdict 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 2: four that former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin. And we've 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: actually got Alison Petrowski joins us from Channel nine Live 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: in Minneapolis, who was out the front of the courtroom 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: while all of this happened. Allison tell us what went down? 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: Oh, it was it was the moment boys, Thank you 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: for having me. Basically I was live on error on 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: the Today Show when it came through that he was 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: found guilty of all three accounts, so a second degree murder, 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: third degree murder, and manslaughter. And it was really unprecedented, 20 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: I think partlic as a jury came back so quickly 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: and surprised everyone. We thought we were just going to 22 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: be waiting it out on Jury Watch today and I guess, well, 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: a lot of America was hoping for a guilty verdict, 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: for justice to be done for George Floyd's family. There was, 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: I guess, a lot of skepticism that it would actually happen. 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: So basically everyone's been preparing here for Minneapolis to riot 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: all over again. So there's three thousand National Guard deployed 28 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: here in Minneapolis over the last few days while we've 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: been here. They're on every corner. There's barbed life fences everywhere. 30 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: There are all these kind of protocols in place, preparing 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: for a riot tonight, and thankfully that's not happening. Everyone 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: has been this partying. 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: On the streets a flip, So you've had everybody out 34 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: in the streets and what they either had in their 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: hands a Molotov cocktail or a party popper, and thankfully 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: they've reached for the latter. 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really felt like that. It felt like it 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: could have gone either way. And I saw real elation, 39 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: tears of joy, strangers hugging and sobbing together. 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: Outside of court, it was a complete sea. And then 42 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: basically what happened is everyone kind of shifted over from 43 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: the courtroom into the CBD blocks of main streets of 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: Minneapolis and had a giant street party. 45 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: Oh wow, wow, that is extraordinary. So amongst all that, 46 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: aurics and I hate to then now shine alone the negative. 47 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: There was no response at all from people who were 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: against the verdict of you. 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Look, I'm sure there will be in the fallout for 50 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: the next twenty four hours, but I think at the 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: moment they wouldn't be brave enough to pop their heads, 52 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: given that there's been such a racial divide in this 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: country since this case took place. It was the case 54 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: of Sparks, the Black Lives Matter, That's Right movement, it 55 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: was the racial reckoning of America. And I don't think 56 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: anyone is silly enough even if they feel like justice 57 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: wasn't theirs today, I don't think they're going to be 58 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: popping up their head just yet and saying it. I'm 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: sure that will happen in the days in week naturally. 60 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: For the moment, nothing but just completely positive, positive vibes 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: and complete joy, which has just been wonderful to see 62 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: because America is quite broken. Guy, it's been a while 63 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: light last year. 64 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: Can I ask Allison this is obviously I mean, like 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like a total flog here. 66 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: But I used to study law and I in Italy 67 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: actually actually a subject called comparative Legal systems with the 68 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: ex Attorney General of Arizona, and I've done an exercise. 69 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: And all this. 70 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: But anyway, Alison, the reason I'm bringing that up is 71 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: just like I was looking at this and just thinking 72 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: to myself, like how absolutely in tense that that whole 73 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: setup is for the jury, the judge, and you know, 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: knowing that their verdict could basically decide whether or not 75 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: there's going to be a civil war in America, like 76 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: the tension around, like you know how impartial they are, 77 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: and America's got this really weird system about how they 78 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: choose who goes on a jury and how both sides 79 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: get a say on, you know, like choosing juries and 80 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: Well, mate, you should have been over here covering it, 82 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: because you're well accosted. The jury process for me to 83 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: watch was totally fascinating. It took eleven days for them 84 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: to whittle down a pool of three hundred into the 85 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: final twelve. 86 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: Right, So who was on the jury was it was 87 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: it mixed obviously race in terms of who was on there. 88 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: To be honest, I think it was about and look 89 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: these aren't exact I'm just rigking off the top of 90 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: my head. A but it was fifty percent white, I think, 91 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: forty percent black and ten percent mixed rates, which when 92 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: you look at the population of Minnesota, actually there's only 93 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: a twenty percent black population, so when you look at 94 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: that panel, they're actually over represented on the panel. But 95 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: even the paneling process for the jury was crazy in America, 96 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: as you would know with your expect their teeth. Once 97 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: this has gone once, once it's done and done, you 98 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: remembers are often identified. Do remembers are often identified, They 99 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: give interviews, you know, they become public figures. And so 100 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: what happened in this process is some people were on 101 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: the stand terrified. I don't want to be a member 102 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: of the jury. 103 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: You can film it, you can film it inside the 104 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: courtroom and stuff. They're like, you know, that's the wildest 105 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: part of it. In Australia, where you see these you know, 106 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: dodgy sketches of people over there, it's like you watch 107 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: it on the TV. 108 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: This case has been no, no, no, you need to 109 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: understand every second of this case. It's been broadcast live, 110 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: so wild for the last three weeks in rolling coverage 111 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: on CNN, NBC extraordinary and on the TV anywhere in America. 112 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: You're watching this case. This is how big this was. 113 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: Well, I'm so glad to hear that the tinder box, 114 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: which was set to light has just been doused with. 115 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: Well, it's still lit. It sounds like that party is 116 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 3: absolutely wild, that straight party. It's just it's just in 117 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: the list that we wanted. 118 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: Alison, thanks so much for joining us. That was genuinely 119 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: fascinating to hear the ins and outs there, and like, 120 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: you know, it must be just extraordinary for you to 121 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: know that you've sort of been at the center of 122 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: like a real genuine moment in history. 123 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: Oh and it was quite weird because I was live 124 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: on air for the Today Show and trying to keep 125 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: my wits about me. But it was absolute chaos. And 126 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: after the two hours of the street party, I turned 127 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: in to my cameraman and I was like, oh my god, 128 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: this is We've just witnessed a huge moment in US history. 129 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: This is really incredible. So you guys going to head 130 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: off and do some crosses outside at George Floyd Square, 131 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: which is apparently still got a party going on even 132 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: though George Floyd. 133 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: Was it George Floyd Square before all this or just 134 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: George like today, I mean, like as of the verdict today, 135 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: it's been George Floyd. 136 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: So you guys know, George Floyd Square is the intersection 137 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: outside Cut Foods where he was pinned down under that car. Now, 138 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: George is a beautiful mural there, and all week there's 139 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: been peaceful protests going on there, but I'm hearing is 140 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: a raging party and I'm going to them. 141 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: Well, go and have a drink for us. 142 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: Alison, get in there, Allison, Thanks for joys. Alison Petrowski 143 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: there from Channel nine Live from Minneapolis, and sounds like 144 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: that will probably be a last sober live cross. 145 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 3: I look forward to her future crosses actually because she's 146 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: going to get looser and loose, and I think tomorrow 147 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: morning on the Today Show we will see the loosest 148 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: Allison Petrowski. 149 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: Podcast. You know you want to