1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Earlier in the week, we spoke to the member for Catherine, 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Joe Hersey, who told us that a senior teacher had 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: been held at knife point and had his car stolen 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: after you's broke into his house over the Easter break. Now, 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Joe went on to say that he was left traumatized 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: from that incident and quit his job and is planning 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: to leave the community. That teacher joins me on the 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: line right now. Good morning to you. 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: Now can you talk me through what happened over the 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Easter weekend. 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was around one am on the Easter Friday. 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: We were sleeping and my friends dot com over for 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: this year, having a dinner before then, and they were 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: sleeping in none of the room and two males, unluckily, 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: they entered our residence. They had broken the loss and 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: they had got in and all the lights were on 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 2: and they were just looking after something in the in 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: the living area and suddenly my friend noticed something some 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: noise and also the lights were on, so he walked 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: out of the room and he just, uh, there's a 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: there are two doors, so he just walked out of 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: the door and so there was a male standing and 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: when he said cave rose, and the male just put 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: the knife on his boat and asked for the cor keys. 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: And obviously my friend was in shock. He didn't know 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: what to do. And there the offender. He took him 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: to the toilet, locked him in the toilet, and the 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: offender with a knife, went to the room where my 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: friend's wife was sleeping and threatened to kill her and 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: asked for the cor keys. And because we had two cars, 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: so obviously they were looking for another car coaky as well. 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: So my friend's wife was in shock and she was 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: frantically screaming that there was an emergency. And Kenny Freeze 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: opened the door and I was sleeping. When I got up, 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: I see a six foot tall mail with a cap 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: and a mask on his face. Obviously I can see 38 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: his face. And he puts a knife on my back 39 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: and asked me to hand in the cockys. And obviously, 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: because I'd just woken up in panic and shock and 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: disbelief and petrified, and I looked for the cockies. And 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: it took a while, and he pokes the tip of 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: my teep of the knife on my tricip where I 44 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: had a bruise, and yeah, I give him the hand 45 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: in corkeys. Uh. And the next thing he tells me 46 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: is to leave the room, and which I did, and 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: he looks, he like looks for some cash in my wallet, 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: and I took my apple walls and there was a 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: pair of Prescipson sunglasses which got broken, and we were 50 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: in shop. We just ran out of the house and 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: the next thing I see is the both of the 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: cars have been reversed and it's gone. 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that is that is odd a night 54 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: me situation. 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: Yep. 56 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: So I've obviously stolen a number of things. I mean, 57 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: how are you and your friends going at this point? 58 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, like, how are you all feeling after what's unfolded. 59 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: I've got a PTSD. I haven't been able to sleep 60 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: at night. And the only like I only came to 61 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: sorry Catherine yesterday. I left the town on the very 62 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: next day, and yeah, I'm in shock. I'm just here 63 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: so that I could see the police this morning and 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: do some investigation and assess the damage of my car. 65 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just been crazy. And we tried to 66 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: call the police on the night. Yeah, it took us 67 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: a while to get to the police. We'll try to 68 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: call them three times, and on the third ten they 69 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: came on the side. But those offenders they came back 70 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: with the car in front of our residence, so we 71 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: were in shop. Maybe they would stop the car and 72 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: come back and try to assault us to something. That's 73 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: what our thought was. We tried to desperately reach out 74 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: to police, and on the third attempt they attended our 75 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: apprentises and they took the victims statement and the Flora 76 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: Chick and everybody there came and did the job. But 77 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: while they were there taking the victim's segment, one of 78 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: the offenders he dropped my friend's car and ran off. 79 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: But after a while they came back with potentially of 80 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: a stolen motorbike and my car and they were honking 81 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: at the police, teasing them. And yeah, it was just 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: just like a my mind count processed what was going 83 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: on on that night. 84 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So those offenders were not worried at 85 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: all about the police being there. In fact, they were 86 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: taunting them. By the sounds of it. 87 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Oh might. 88 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: Now we're obviously not identifying you are know, Catherine is 89 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: a small town, and you know, I'm conscious I don't 90 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: want you to feel unsafe in any way. You had 91 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: said that you attempted to call the police three times, 92 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: and then they did. You were able to get them 93 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: on the third occasion, I mean, were they able to 94 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: get out there quite quickly. What was the response from 95 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: the police. 96 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 2: Well, the first two times they said they had multiple 97 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: jobs to attend, and yeah, on the third attempt, when 98 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: one of the offenders came back to drop off the vehicle, 99 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: he was trying to park and near our property, so 100 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: we thought maybe he would stop the car and maybe 101 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: he had a weapon, because obviously he did, and he 102 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: was coming back trying to threaten us. So my friends 103 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: and I were at the balcony watching all that happening, 104 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: and we were despraded, calling the police, can you police 105 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: come and protect us? And they said, like they had 106 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: on the justice attempt, But yeah, it took a while, 107 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: like I think about an hour after the third attempt 108 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: for the police to come inside. And even when the 109 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: police was there and they were taking the victim's statement, 110 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: like I said, they came back with potentially a stolen 111 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: motorbike and my car and they were to the police 112 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: and when I told the police, if they're able to 113 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: test them up and recover my car, but they told me, 114 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: like the last prevent them from doing the height switches 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: because the US are obviously driving the car and if 116 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: they get i don't know killed or and then like here, 117 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: there'll be charges. 118 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: Press yes, sir, it was just it is just insane, 119 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: like I said it like it's the stuff that nightmares 120 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: are made of. I mean, to have somebody inside your home, 121 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: to have a knife being held to you, woken from 122 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: your sleep, your friends, they're staying at your place. I mean, 123 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: you said you immediately left Catherine the following day. I 124 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: know you've had to go back there to speak with 125 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: the police and assess the damage. But but have you 126 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: are you now? Is that it for you? You are 127 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: not moving back to Catherine, not at all. 128 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: I'm here just to see and assess the damage. And 129 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: I've also spoken to hersy like because Joorsey said, if 130 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: I can get some photos from the of the car, 131 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: I'd be able to, I don't know, reach out to 132 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 2: the community if they can chip in some money into support, 133 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: because obviously I've resigned from the job. I'm traumatized. It 134 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: was I don't know icons even process what is going on, 135 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: even after seven days, nearly seven days from the incident 136 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: and I've lost my job. I was supporting my family overseas. 137 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: They were planning to join me in June, and we 138 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: all really had both the tickets and and I have 139 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: slipped in all my belongings from Darwins just a month ago, 140 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 2: so I've got like heaps of stuff that I can't 141 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: obviously I don't have a car, but even then, like 142 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: I need a removed list to take all of my belongings, 143 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: so everything was here. I was in shock. And the 144 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: next day I asked my neighbor if they could change 145 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: the locks because the car kids had my house kids 146 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: as well, so the actually the house keys to the 147 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: next day I managed to change the lots thanks to 148 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: my Neva was very generous and very next day, my 149 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: friends and I we we fled Captain. So basically, yeah, 150 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: so that that was that was really shocking. And I 151 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: really don't think, like I don't think this is this 152 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: is Australia that I knew what I've been calling Australia home, 153 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: like as an Australian citizen for the last decade or so, 154 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: and yeah, this is a horrific I can't imagine. I 155 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: was just thinking, you know, like how like people living 156 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: in water and countries, like somebody walks into your home, 157 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: the enemy with a with a gun and points the 158 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: barrel of the gun on your head and tells them 159 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: to leave the leave the town or something that. That 160 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: is just the feeling I'm feeling as moderns. So that's 161 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: the stead Oh my, look. 162 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: I am I'm a heart broken for you. I mean 163 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: the fact that you've gone through that, the absolute fear 164 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: that you must have felt, and how you continue to feel. 165 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: Are you going to stay in the Northern Territory? Are 166 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: you going to stay in Darwin? What are you going 167 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: to do? 168 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is something I'll have to decide in 169 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: the next few days. But hopefully I might be able 170 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: to recover my car. I've just been to the police 171 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: and there is an extensive damage at the front and 172 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: they have changed the rear tires. Yeah, they've done a 173 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: lot of damning in my car. And hopefully I'm able 174 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: to recover a car and go to Darlin and take 175 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: all my belongings. And I don't know. I stared my friends. 176 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: I don't know where I'm going to say, and yes, 177 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: see what I can do for the next couple of 178 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: months and what my plan is to leave the territory 179 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: in the next year whenever I have like all these 180 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: plans simply. 181 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: And from what from what I am told, your vehicle 182 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: was then used to ram ride other businesses as well, 183 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: wasn't it. 184 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely Yep, that's what the police told me when I 185 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: spoke to them earlier this morning. 186 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: Oh, this is unbelievable. Now just tell me very quickly 187 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: before I let you go. Have you been to access 188 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: support from victims of crime? 189 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 2: No? Actually, a couple of months ago when I was overseas, 190 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: my car was vandalized at my residence and I had 191 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: access the support from them. So what they told me 192 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: is they can't help me in this situation, even though 193 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: this is like extremely serious situation I'm in where I've 194 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: lost my job and my car that was worth fifteen 195 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: thousand dollars was vandalized and everything that's going on at 196 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 2: the moment, they said they can only support once per calendar, 197 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: you know, which is very strange. 198 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: Wow. Oh mate, I'm so sorry for what you've gone through. 199 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: And from what I'm also told, you're you've been an 200 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: instrumental person in terms of establishing the Nepalese community in 201 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: Catherine as well. I mean, what impact does a crime 202 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: like this have then on what I would imagine is 203 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: a very tight knit and caring community. 204 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah. I was the secretary of the Netflix Community 205 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: in Catherine. I was very instrumental in setting up and 206 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: registering our community with the Northern Churchy government and last 207 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 2: year we organized one of the biggest festivals where I 208 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: was ki because I was very active and also playing 209 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 2: music and I was really into that. And still I'm 210 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: in the advisory committee. But the community is in SoC 211 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: and horror, like they're petrified, and everybody has been calling 212 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: me and consoling me on what has happened, and a 213 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: lot of Netflix Community members there are deciding to live 214 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: to leave the town, so which is obviously like I 215 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: can imagine, like from the point of view, they are 216 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: in absolute stock at the moment. 217 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: Oh my, I'm honestly on behalf of every territory and 218 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry for what has happened to you. I 219 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: know that everybody is so fed up with the crime 220 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: and what's going on, but I cannot even begin to 221 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: jen how you and your friends must feel after what 222 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: had gone on, to be woken from your sleep and 223 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: have a knife held to you, to then have your 224 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: vehicles stolen and to no longer feel safe to live somewhere, 225 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: or it is so upsetting to me that this kind 226 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: of thing is continuing to happen in the Northern Territory. 227 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: And I'm honestly like, I'm so sorry to hear that 228 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: that has happened to you. 229 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, yeah, even I am in like absolute stock 230 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: and I've got PDSD. And the last night when I 231 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: was in this residence, that thought was recurring, and yeah, 232 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: I couldn't sleeve last night. I haven't been able to 233 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: sleep for the last since that incident, but yesterday was 234 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: it was really hard for me to come into the 235 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: residence and like saying, incidents coming into my mind, and yeah, 236 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 2: the youth crime has has gone out of control, and yeah, 237 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: and the increase in youth crime and also increasing the 238 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: minimum age of criminal responsibility in the Northern Tributary from 239 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: ten years to twelve years. I don't remember whether it's 240 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: playing the path in the number of crimes and good 241 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: crimes we can see considering what is having in aled 242 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: screams and yeah, so I think in Catherine, like, yeah, 243 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: just become very unsaved, and yeah, the next couple of 244 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: days I'll be leaving the town and it is really 245 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: sad because I was really popular at my school as well, 246 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: and the students and the school community and the parents, 247 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: they will be divastated to hear the needs that I've 248 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: just had it to leave the town. 249 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: Oh mate, I thank you very much for talking to 250 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: me this morning. I know it's not easy to relive 251 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: what's going on, and you know such an emotional and 252 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: difficult time for you. So I really appreciate you speaking 253 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: to us this morning because I actually think it's really 254 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: important that these stories are shared, that people know that 255 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: there is a victim. To every pressure release that comes out, 256 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: there is a victim. And the impact that these senseless, 257 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: senseless crimes have on everyday territorians is horrendous and it 258 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: needs to stop. 259 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, So this just stops. So well, my question 260 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: is how many more assaults and how many more breakings 261 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: and how many such incidents have to be repeated so 262 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: that I think territories they feel safe to live in 263 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: their home on home. If you can't feel safe in 264 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: your home on home, then where can you be safe? 265 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,359 Speaker 1: That's my question, that is and that is a bloody 266 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: good question. Thank you very much for your time this morning. 267 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you speaking with me. 268 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, Katie, thank you