1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: The Will M. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: Woody podcast. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 3: Woods, I can't recall a moment where this has happened, 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 3: But have you ever made a celebrity storm out of 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: an interview? 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: Have you storm now? Have you ever angered a celebrity? 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: Yep? 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: Do you do? You want to share that or is 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: it best not to share that. We've discussed this on 10 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: our podcast. 11 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 4: I angered Niall Horan when he was in here because 12 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 4: I was asking him. I asked him about his mum, 13 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 4: his mom had His ex girlfriend had the same name 14 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 4: as your mum. 15 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: I didn't know they. 16 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 4: Broke up three He was his ex girlfriend of like 17 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 4: three days. Her name was Melissa Whitelaw. Your mom's name 18 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 4: is Melissa white Law. And I brought that up with 19 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 4: him before we did the conversation because I was like, 20 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 4: heads up, we think this is funny, and he was like, 21 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 4: that's just not funny. Didn't find it funny, won't be 22 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: doing that, and that was a really bad interview as 23 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 4: a result. 24 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: Okay, great, So you can relate to a woman called 25 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: Savannah Guthrie then, who is the co anchor of the 26 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: Today Show in a me Erica. Oh yeah, she's effectively 27 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 3: talked about the one question she regrets asking a guest. 28 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: Oh and it was Chloe Kardashian. Oh wow, this is 29 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: what she said. 30 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 5: I asked Chloe Kardashian like ten seconds before we were 31 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 5: going to break about the rumors that her father wasn't 32 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 5: her father. I was so embarrassed that I felt like 33 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 5: all this pressure I had just started, and I felt 34 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 5: like the producers wanted me to ask this dishy question. 35 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: Can't ask someone is your dad actually your dad? 36 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 6: What happened? 37 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: Chloe was very angry. They went to ads. I don't 38 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: think she came back after the ads. So is her 39 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: dad not her dad? I didn't know the tea on 40 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: Christian Age outside her mum is christ Jenna, her dad. 41 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: Robert Kardashian, But there are rumors apparently that her dad 42 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: may have been O. J. 43 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Simpson. 44 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: Oh that's right, that's right. I forgot about whoa yeah 45 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: christ Jenna? So she, by the way, I always one 46 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: of the very confusing its Christopher k Yes? 47 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? Also, who what about Caitlin? Thank you? So Caitlin 48 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: is not any of their fathers? Bruce, Jenna was Kylie 49 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: or is Kylie? And Kendall's fun Sorry, but. 50 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: She's Chloe Kardashian not Chloe Jenna. Yes, hence Bruce was 51 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: not her father. 52 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: Yes, I think I think we've made the family, know 53 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: what I mean against confus. 54 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: The likes most one of the most spoken about families 55 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 4: in the world. 56 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: If you are fresh to that discussion, it's a pretty 57 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: big blended. It is a landmine totally. But I think 58 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: there's a lot going on. I think we've covered it, 59 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: and then you just throwing the juice as well. 60 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: Doesn't know who the juice is probably famous for the 61 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 4: most famous court case ever in American history. 62 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he might be and Kardashian's dad. 63 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 7: Yeah. 64 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we don't think that. 65 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: We've never said that. 66 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: We have never said that. People have said it repeating. 67 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 8: She's a lot taller, She's quite like in comparison to 68 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 8: the other. 69 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: The juice is huge. God could he play football anyway? 70 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 3: What I want to talk to you about though off, 71 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: this is the one thing I think when we go 72 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 3: into celebrity interviews that we don't want to do is 73 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: anger the celebrity too true, right, That's that's probably the 74 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: one rule we go into all interviews with. We're going 75 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: to go to a song up next. I'm just going 76 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: to bring up celebrities with you, and I want you 77 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: to do the opposite. I want you to think on 78 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: the spot of the question that you think would make 79 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: them storm out of the interview. Okay, Tom Cruise, what's 80 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: the question that makes him storm out? 81 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: Why did Katie Holmes and your daughter hide from you? WHOA, yep? 82 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: I think he's easy? Yeah, okay, I know the controversial ground. No, 83 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: I grab it. 84 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 4: I'm like a moth to a flame with this stuff. Mate, Madonna, 85 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: why is the un so worried about. 86 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: I have just realized this is right on the line 87 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: and the bit that I thought this was a fun bit, 88 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: but I was like, wow, this is just gonna after 89 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: land Mine. 90 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: But here we go Madonna. 91 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: The problem is, I think Madonna's like, like, I just 92 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: think she's kind of a bit above this, Like she'd 93 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: be easy to get to walk out. 94 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: She just doesn't do interviews. 95 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: You know, we've locked in time, We've got five minutes 96 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: with how do you make a storm out? 97 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: The first question? 98 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 4: Are you sad that Beyonce is a better live show 99 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: than you? 100 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 6: Oh? 101 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: Good, that's that's good. 102 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: Okay, she'd hate that, or because we know she hates Gaga, 103 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: so he could be. 104 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: Does it suck that Lady Gargo has a way better voice. 105 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: She'd hate that. Elton John, How you believe Madonna's still 106 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: a better somewhereriter? In my view though? 107 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: Carry on, Elton John, Elton John, Oh, my god's because 108 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: he's famous for just being the absolute PREMI ma Donna, So. 109 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: He'd be pretty easy, I reckon. Do you think it 110 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: would have sold more records if you were taller? Oh? 111 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 6: Nice? 112 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: Go for his heart? Really sure? I love that, and 113 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: he'd probably never get well, no ties around him. How 114 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: does it feel in the size of a twelve year 115 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: old boy? Love that struggle getting into over eighteen clubs 116 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 2: being that high? Really, it would never have gone on 117 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: a roller coaster ride. 118 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: How much of a hack do you have to be 119 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 4: by just remixing current pop stars songs? 120 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: Oh? That that gets him in there? You know what 121 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: I mean? 122 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: Like, if you doesn't suck that, you don't make any 123 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: of your records and you just get Britney Spears and 124 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: Jewelie for to redo yours. 125 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you couple that with the height gear. Yep, 126 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: that's a good combat one too. Yeah, that's a good 127 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: one too. Okay, No, I think we're making it very 128 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: clear you'd never ask these questions. I am challenging you 129 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 3: to bring up the thing that would make them storm. 130 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: MAT's totally different thing. 131 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Russell Crowe, Oh umm. 132 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: Again, so many hang on, let me just ever think 133 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: about it. I'm not that many. 134 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: Um oh yeah, well, I've got to be careful here. 135 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, because I mean, there's no chance that 136 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 4: Elton and Madonna and who is the other one? 137 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: They're not hearing this rusty Tom cruise. I've interviewed Russell before. 138 00:05:59,560 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 6: He's love. 139 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: Do you want to skip? I'm going to give you 140 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: one skip, allowing it. I'm allowing it. 141 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 6: I go down with you. 142 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: I mean the rabbit, o sucker, the nice. It's good, 143 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: plain fun, good, plain fun. Let's end it there. 144 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: Actually, let's get on top. This is pretty hard to conceive. 145 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: Jess and Miriam road eight thousand miles across the Pacific Ocean. 146 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: It's almost fifteen it seems like ten hours and one 147 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: hundred and sixty five days, starting in Peru and finishing 148 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: in cans and. 149 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: They join us right now, safe and sound, on willing. 150 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 8: Hey guys, hello, thanks for having us on. 151 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: Of course, now this is probably a pretty immature question. 152 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 3: There's so many questions we could ask you, but I 153 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: do want to ask you first and foremost, toilet while 154 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 3: you're on the boat. 155 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: What was that mirror? Bucket? 156 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: Bucket and jack here? 157 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: But bucket, bucket and chuck it? 158 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: So because what I was, what I was envisioning, is 159 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: the thing he used to do when you were like 160 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: a kid and you just kind of like dangle half 161 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: your body over the boat and let it go. 162 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: But it wasn't that. 163 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 9: No, you'd end up getting just like a kind of situation. 164 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: Very good, Okay, cool, And a question there for I 165 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: guess a question for how close you guys are shared 166 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: bucket or different bucket? 167 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: No, we had the. 168 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 8: Same bucket, but we'd always clean it. So yeah, actually 169 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 8: the most comfortable seat on the boats. 170 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: Guys. What what does the day look like? Because I 171 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: was I was talking one of the producers before, I was. 172 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 4: Like, are they are you anchoring at night? Like because 173 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: you're in the middle of the Pacific. 174 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: Like how are you? How are you? How are you 175 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: doing this? 176 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 9: Like? 177 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: What what does the day look like? Is one of 178 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: you always rowing? I mean runs through. 179 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 9: We're rowing day and night. We've got to keep the 180 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 9: boat moving. As much as possible. 181 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: No anchoring. 182 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 9: No, there's a sea anchor, a parachute anchor in case 183 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 9: the wind was in the wrong direction or something like that. 184 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: But in the. 185 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 9: Beginning, our routine was two hours on, two hours off, 186 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 9: with we do an extra voutry hour during the day 187 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 9: whenever we felt we had the energy, and then towards 188 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 9: the end we were basically just rowing all day, and 189 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 9: then from six pm to ten am we do the 190 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 9: two hours on, two hours off, and those off bits 191 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 9: we could sleep, but you never get the four two 192 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 9: hours off because by the time you got into the 193 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 9: cabin and you maybe had a bit of a wash 194 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 9: or sorted out some admins or ran home. So we 195 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 9: probably averaged about four to six hours sleep for the crossing. 196 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, you were going down there and doing emails. 197 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: No, well, we like cleaning yourself. Yeah sorry, I thought 198 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: you were like, well, better pay the bills returns Like. 199 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 4: No, why why why? I keep going back to that, 200 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: Why why are you doing this? This is insane? 201 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we so we both met when we 202 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 8: were rowing across the Atlantic Ocean in twenty twenty two. 203 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 8: So there's a there's a race called the Tellus Whiskey 204 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 8: Atlantic Challenge. It's been renamed the World's toughest row and 205 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 8: it's a three thousand miles rowing race from Lagomera in 206 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 8: the Canary Islands to Antigua in the Caribbean and mint 207 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 8: growing solo. And I was wearing as a team of 208 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 8: four and we were in Antigua celebrating and pretty much 209 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 8: a week after, you know, we've both been on land together, 210 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 8: we decided let's try and top this. We absolutely loved 211 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 8: our time out there and so decided let's try and 212 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 8: take on the biggest ocean. 213 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: Wow, bloody hell. What was the hardest thing about being 214 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: on the bike? What was what was the bit was difficult? 215 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 9: I think probably the sleep deprivation we did pass There 216 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 9: was some days you'd have good days and bad days, 217 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 9: and then some days where you're just passing out on 218 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 9: the oars like just hit back, you'll be fine, You'll 219 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 9: be rowing and you can sleep rope for a little 220 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 9: bit and then you'll just sort of goom and then 221 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 9: I mean one day I opened the cabin door and 222 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 9: Jessman I just fell asleep, eat my snacks and she 223 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 9: was like just cut. 224 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 8: Around and also like you try and snacks to keep 225 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 8: you awake, And I was like, how ear has this happened? 226 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 9: This is wilds? 227 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: So what about like injuries? 228 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: Like I occasionally will jump on the rowing machine at 229 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: the gym and bang out a kilometer. Sometimes I get 230 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: blisters on my hands, so I try to actually steer 231 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: clear of it. 232 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: How are the hands? 233 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: Hands were good? 234 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 8: To be honest, I mean we did so much rowing 235 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 8: on the on the rowing machine prior and also did 236 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 8: a lot of training in our boat that our hands 237 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 8: were pretty tough before starting, so we didn't really suffer 238 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 8: from blisters our hands up. Yeah, just I've turned into 239 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 8: our feet almost feet are really solid for not walking anywhere, 240 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 8: and our hands are really really tough. 241 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: Need to go to get some manicures. 242 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 2: So what was so physically then? 243 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: What was the hardest part about rowing just so much 244 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: and rowing across the Pacific Ocean. 245 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: It's a tricky one. It's very mental. Our boat is. 246 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 9: Like, because it's such a big boat for this trip 247 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 9: and to get everything in there. It can be rowed 248 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 9: by up to four people, so it's a really heavy boat. 249 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 9: So it was actually really hard when there was no 250 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 9: wind and no waves and everybody thinks you want calm 251 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 9: weather but it doesn't help you go forward at all. 252 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 9: And as we got closer to this side, the ozone 253 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 9: layer was getting thinner, so the heat went on those 254 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 9: calm days when there was no wind to just cool 255 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 9: you down. 256 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: Pretty Yeah. 257 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: This food part of it. So you you five thousand 258 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: calories a day? 259 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: Is that age? 260 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, so we were trying to consume that many, but 261 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 8: we weren't really ever able to because we just really 262 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 8: didated food. 263 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 4: It's just so, was there a support boat at any 264 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: stages they're both following you along here or anything like that. 265 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: You took all your. 266 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 4: Food for six months and you've both got to eat 267 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 4: five thousand calories a day. 268 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's all. Wow, what is that just powdered milk? 269 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 8: Well, it's actually meals like curries and like pastavalonnaise and 270 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 8: anything you can think of really, and you just add 271 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 8: water and there's no texture to it whatsoever. 272 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: It's just mush. 273 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: You taking all your water on there? Does that work? 274 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 7: Well? 275 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 9: We have a desalinator, a water mall okay, the seawater, 276 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 9: but we had a problem with that, so that was. 277 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: As well. 278 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 3: You never had one of those big rills moments on 279 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: the boat. 280 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: Do you know who Big Grills is and what he's famous. 281 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you never had a moment like that with the 282 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: bucket d Yes, perfectly. I am asking you if you 283 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: ever drank your own urine in desperation? 284 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: Oh no, that point okay, okay, that's good. Good to confirm, 285 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: Good to confirm. 286 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: So let's talk then about the first meal when you 287 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: get back on land, and then what's the first meal? 288 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 8: So we had we had pizzas and beer when we Yeah, 289 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 8: as our first meal. We already put our orders in 290 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 8: for for pizzas a week before we arrived. 291 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 4: So good, and that is that thing you're missing most, 292 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: just like good quality food? 293 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: Is that what you're missing? 294 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 295 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 9: I mean we would spend most of our day talking 296 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 9: about food. So in the beginning we were really craving. Yeah, 297 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 9: and then as we got across it, it was just pizza. 298 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: But we would just get so obsessed with food. 299 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 9: We would just ask each other these stupid questions all day, 300 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 9: like what's your favorite pasta shape? 301 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: And what's your favorite pudding? 302 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 9: And oh god, and then we start messaging around all 303 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 9: our support team to find out like what their favorite 304 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 9: cake was. 305 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: Answers and we're. 306 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 9: Just annoying everybody with all these stupid food questions and 307 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 9: he was entertained for hours. 308 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: It sounds like a riot. 309 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: And you guys, I also heard before you got on them, 310 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 4: before we got into the pizza NBA. So you've been 311 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: rowing for six months on the Pacific, So what were 312 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: the first steps on land? 313 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 8: Like quite webbly And yeah, we could not believe how 314 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 8: many people were at the finish. Our story has sort 315 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 8: of been shared really wide by lost in Here, one 316 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 8: of our partners, and they've really spread the message out 317 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 8: and we had so many people at the finish line. 318 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 8: It was just it was crazy. 319 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: Cool, awesome. What about slap? Was slap weird? Back in 320 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: a bed? 321 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, So we we both have been up to like 322 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 9: three in the morning the last couple of nights because 323 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 9: we've been so wide and just wide awake, maybe because 324 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 9: we're not exhausting ourselves all day so bit it's hard 325 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 9: now it's I think it's going to catch up on 326 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 9: us and were crash soon. But yeah, got a lot 327 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 9: of adrenaline, still quite wired from it all and the 328 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 9: finished Do you. 329 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: Ever wake up thinking you're still on the boat? 330 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 9: Not yet, Yeah, I think that'll come. We did just 331 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 9: have some like really random boat dreams. I used to 332 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 9: get really disorientated and I would be asleep and I 333 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 9: would dream about something that was happening on the boat. 334 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 9: So when I woke up, I would think it was 335 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 9: time to go back to sleep again, and then realize 336 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 9: I'd have to. 337 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: Get up and do another two hours. 338 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 4: Rowing, Oh, I can't, I just I just I don't 339 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: get these guys. 340 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: I don't get it at all. I'm impressed. I'm then 341 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: so can I ask? 342 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 4: Was there ever a moment where you feared for your 343 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: lives where you were like, you know, this is well 344 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: enough now, like this is this is not is not 345 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: the fun that we thought it would be. 346 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 8: We definitely didn't have any moments where we were scared, 347 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 8: but we've had a lot of moments where we were 348 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 8: really frustrated just because of the amount of things that 349 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 8: went wrong run. It broke me out to restart. We 350 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 8: had parishes throughout, so we're pretty much dead ship. We 351 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 8: also the water maker pipes burst nine times, and then 352 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 8: the emergent emergency water maker filter also fell off, and 353 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 8: Mims prepaired that with a pair of knickers. 354 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: A lot of problem solving throughout were. 355 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: We argued, did you argue at any point. 356 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: No, no, no, there's nothing to argue about. 357 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: We were just not when you're talking about your favorite cake. 358 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: I suppose aout that the only chat. Well, guys, it's 359 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: seriously impressive. Congratulations from both of us is just one 360 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: of the best things that I've ever heard. 361 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: I just can't believe you did it. You're done with 362 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: rowing there? Or what's next? 363 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, we'd love to do it again. To be fair, 364 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: I didn't. 365 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: Get out more. Go do something fun in Ken's something fun. 366 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. Just stand at the beach, just chill 367 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: just for a second. Life's being good. 368 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, were very good at out. 369 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: I'm getting that sense. All the guys have been loving. 370 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: To meet you, Jess and Miriam, fresh off rowing across 371 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 4: the Pacific Ocean, and there's just an extraordinary sentence from Peru 372 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: to Cans in five point four months, one hundred and 373 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: sixty five days. Guys, congratulations again, thanks so much. 374 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: Joining some of. 375 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: Been watching a lot of like crime TV shows and 376 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: crime movies. It's just it's a go to I love 377 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: crime thrillers, and I'm finding in every single what. 378 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: Are you watching at the moment, Well, it's actually a 379 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: book that I'm reading. 380 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: It's a crime book, which I'm not gonna I don't 381 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: know what it's called because I get it on the kindle, 382 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: because I buy it on the kindle and then you 383 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: never see the cover anymore, so I never know the 384 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: name of the book. 385 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyway, it's a woman. 386 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: She's been found, she's been killed, right, and they're now 387 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: questioning a whole bunch. 388 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 2: Of people who could be suspects. But who killed this woman? 389 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 390 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 2: Right, Okay. 391 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: Now, in all these crime shows, movies, or books, there's 392 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: a moment where the police are interrogating someone or talking 393 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 3: to someone and then the person this line always comes 394 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 3: up and they say. 395 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: Should I should I call a lawyer? Yeah? And that 396 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: is always a moment where you go. 397 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: Ah, you look guilty now because you've mentioned and the 398 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: police want you to feel. 399 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: That way, yes. 400 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 4: Or the other way that it goes is the cops go, 401 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 4: we recommend you get an attorney. 402 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 2: We're about to go on. 403 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 4: You can go from just so you know we're taking 404 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 4: you very seriously. Recommend you get a lawyer. It's their 405 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 4: way of saying, like you're a suspect. 406 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: So that's when you know you're in trouble. 407 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: Without saying I want to focus on the other side, 408 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 3: which is when you feel the need to bring it up, right, 409 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: because I think whenever you've been interrogated, and I've never 410 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: been interrogated, but when you're in the interrogation room. 411 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: All you're trying to do is not look guilty. 412 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 3: Yes, right, And I don't even know how you're supposed 413 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 3: to play that from the books and stuff. It's just 414 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: don't get emotional, don't get defensive, and just answer their questions, 415 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 3: don't give too much detail. 416 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: Well no, no, no, that's in my head because whenever. 417 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: You're watching one of these TV shows, you're like, how 418 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: would I ask answer that question? 419 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: I think there's so many. 420 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 4: I feel like you just feel my evidence lecture just 421 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 4: like yelling at the moment so much that you've missed 422 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 4: uh yeah sure. I think the point is there are 423 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 4: certain questions that you actually don't have to answer. 424 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 8: Yeah. 425 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, But that's why it's nice to have a lawyer 426 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: with you to tell you which questions you don't have 427 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: to answer. 428 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: Okay, that, but let's be honest. 429 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 3: We all know that when you're watching these TV shows, yea, 430 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: and the person says, should I call my lawyer? 431 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? 432 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 3: It's like a win for the police because they go like, 433 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 3: now you look dodgy, Now you look guilty. 434 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 435 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 2: So my question was also find it funny that they 436 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: always have a lawyer. Oh yeah, and they're like, should 437 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 2: I have a lawyer? I call my lawyer. 438 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, you've already got a lawyer, dude, you're 439 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: already looking pretty dodged. Like how many times are you 440 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: calling your lawyer in to get you out of this 441 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 4: sort of stuff? Right if you've got them on speak 442 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 4: let me just figure out if there is anyone who 443 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 4: could actually come down right now. 444 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: And then it was like the next scene, they're like, oh, 445 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: here I am with my lawyer. 446 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're always like they're quite cordially with their lawyer, like, 447 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: oh good to see. 448 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: How are the kids. Yeah, it's like how often. 449 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: Like if they're a gangster, I get it, Like you 450 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 4: obviously need some sort of yere you know, swindling style 451 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 4: lawyer who's always thetting value out of tough situations. But yeah, yeah, 452 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 4: I agree, Sure, I agree. It's a red flag for 453 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: me if they've got a lawyer, red flag. 454 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, But if you're trying to not look, Dodgy, yep, 455 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: when should you bring up or when should. 456 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: You involve the lawyer? 457 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: Because it's just a hard thing to bring up, right, 458 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: because if you if you come if if a police 459 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: say to you, how do you want to ask you 460 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: a couple of questions, and you come down with a lawyer. 461 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dodgy, No, I'm watching that TV show, Go guilty, 462 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: Why did you bring a lawyer? They just wanted to 463 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: ask you a couple of questions. 464 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 3: But also on the other side, if you come in 465 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: alone and then you're answering questions and then four questions in, 466 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 3: you go, oh should I call my lawyer? 467 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: I think that looks worse. Yeah, I agree, So I 468 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: agree you're a trained lawy. I'm not a trained came 469 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: that more. Yeah, that's trained lawyer. No, it's not carry 470 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: on trained you know the law? Yeah, all right, Like 471 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: IL study this stuff for like a year. 472 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 3: So if I ever find myself in that situation where 473 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 3: I'm being interrogated and by the way, I'm not guilty 474 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: because I'm a good boy, when am I involving my lawyer? 475 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: When's the best time for me to involve my lawyer? 476 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: Do you not have you done it? 477 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 3: No? From the start, but I would fold. But you know, 478 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: like I'm not good in an interrogation room. I can 479 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: only imagine that i'd get sweaty in there. 480 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: Do you know? Do you know anything about it? Why 481 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: are you getting question? 482 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 6: Then? 483 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's what is the situation. 484 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 3: I mean is I didn't think I should even be 485 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: coming down to the police station to be questioned. 486 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: Sure, is there a chance that you might know something 487 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: and not know that? You know? That's something that is 488 00:20:53,600 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: classic meing. So yeah, maybe from the start, but of dodgy. No, 489 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: it's not with a lawyer. 490 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: Uh No, like I because I think if you say 491 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 4: halfway through I need a lawyer, that's when you go, 492 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: I'm hiding something. Oh I don't know how to like 493 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 4: work my way out of this. Yeah, because you've got 494 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 4: nothing to hide. But I just think that like people 495 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 4: who are generally as incapable of you and as you, 496 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 4: and who also can really put their foot in it. 497 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, like you might end up in jail 498 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: if you don't have a lawyer. 499 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: That's my biggest fear, end up in jail for a 500 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 3: CRIMEA did and convicted woods I had to pick up 501 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: at daycare. The other day picking up my daughter Remy, 502 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 3: and as I was walking into the outdoor area to 503 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: go and find Remy, just one of the kids. I 504 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: don't know if this was an intentional barb, but just 505 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: just just like I wasn't wearing shoes and she just 506 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: pointed at my feet just goes, why have you got 507 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: no shoes on? And I was like, I'm just I 508 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: just I just didn't want to put schoos on today, 509 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: and she just goes, can you not afford shoes? 510 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, wow, wack, that's kind of that. 511 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 6: That's hit. 512 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: That's hit. I'm embarrassed that that's hit. 513 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: But the two year old's hit me there and just 514 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: got me thinking, like if you like there is some 515 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: school gyard insults that still hit. 516 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And like. 517 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 3: I've just written the couple down here just like I 518 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 3: reckon if anyone if an adult said this to aford 519 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: shoes is strong, yeah you can you don't afford them? 520 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 3: And delivered it well, that was genuinely curious, like can 521 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 3: you not afford shoes? I can, I bloody can afford it. 522 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: And I felt like defensive about it. I was like 523 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: I wanted to prove it to them. I wanted to 524 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: take them to the shops and buy them a pair 525 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: of Clarks or something. Anyway, here's another one that it 526 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: would still if an adult said this, it would still 527 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 3: get me. 528 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: You're not invited to my birthday. 529 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: Party, just like if someone just straight up said to you, 530 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 3: you're not invited to my birthday party. 531 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: Or hit that that hits, that hits. That's a lot. Okay, 532 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: here's another one. 533 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 3: I mean, this is definitely there's a bit of immature, 534 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 3: but again, this would this would get me if this 535 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 3: came up at a dinner if someone said to me, 536 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: when you take a Wii, you pull your bents down 537 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 3: to the ankles and m hmmm, that would that would 538 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 3: definitely that would definitely between that would one hurt me. 539 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: You know about it as well, because you you know, 540 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 4: all of a sudden well there's also truth to it. 541 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: I think the thing with all these insults. 542 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 3: Sorry, I've just got a text message and I'm going 543 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: to go, oh by the drop zone. 544 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: Drop It's not desperate, It's okay. I was going to 545 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: do the drop zone desperately like a machine. 546 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: So so MIM's got she's she's going in, she's what 547 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 4: the water's broken. 548 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 3: So she came no, no, no, no, what has haven't broken? 549 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 3: But like she'd be messaging me saying like, belly's got 550 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 3: even lower, my boobs are leaky, which is obviously like, 551 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: but she thinks she might be going into the labor 552 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 3: so I'm probably gonna. 553 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: Have to go Jesus. All right, mate, Well, okay, see 554 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: you mate? What do we What do I do? Will 555 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: show we don't. 556 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: Have to go now, get out of it. 557 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: Enjoy my double get the get the que cards out, 558 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: double dad, I see your brother. 559 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 4: I mean, thank God saved us for some awful gear. 560 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: Tell you what primary school insults? 561 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: Oh god? Uh so? Yeah, all right, well sorry, and 562 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to clicking around here. What am I doing? Now? 563 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 6: We'll figure it out. 564 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 4: We'll figure it out it out. Okay, all right, Rob 565 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 4: Thomas gonna be in the studio. Guess don't go anywhere. 566 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: You're you're joining us. I mean to be honest. 567 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 4: At a very strange time, if you were listening just before, 568 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 4: you would have heard Woody literally run out. 569 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: Of the studio. 570 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 4: He's going to go and have a baby. Guys, So 571 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 4: that that happened, which probably. 572 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 6: His wife's having the baby. 573 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: But still I would it's a big deal and amazingly. 574 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 4: I mean, we had a bunch of people on speed 575 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 4: dial to fill in for him, but Rob Thomas picked 576 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 4: up the phone first and he's in the studio now 577 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 4: co hosting. 578 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 10: I appreciate I have a lot of free time and 579 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 10: I'm happy to be I'm happy to be anywhere nice 580 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 10: that you could come on in. I mean all the 581 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 10: way down janitorial like, whatever you need, I'm here. All right, 582 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 10: you're Johnny on the spot. 583 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: I'll let them know. I' let him know. There actually 584 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: is a bit of cleaning that out here. 585 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 6: Rob. 586 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: You're touring Australia at the moment. Just did Perth. 587 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 10: We did Perth Adelaide and one night in Melbourne brand 588 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 10: new record it's called All Night Days, which is out now. 589 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 4: We were just saying off air that your son is 590 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: it Mason Mason, so he's playing in your band with 591 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: you is twenty seven years old. 592 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 6: Twenty seven. 593 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 10: He played a full tour in the States and this 594 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 10: is his second tour. 595 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: Here probably, so I'm interested. 596 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 4: I'm going to weave this through so because what he's 597 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 4: not here, I can ask complicated questions. So so when 598 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 4: I was a teenager, like I was a like an 599 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 4: enormous matchbox t it's nice, like enormous, like I really 600 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 4: and all what's all we listened to? 601 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 6: Really just very cool man. 602 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm actually very nervous talking to you. I don't normally 603 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: get me. 604 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 6: You should be I have a very big deal. 605 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: I don't normally get nervous talking to people. 606 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 4: But I was very nervous about you coming in and 607 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 4: the fact that you had a boy and being a 608 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 4: I don't know, I just I suppose being a role 609 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 4: model to a son. And I look back on like, 610 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 4: you know, who you were probably when you had him, 611 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 4: which is I mean, I was a lastly different person. 612 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 6: I was a mess for a lot of it. 613 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 10: I mean, I think you know that's why there's something 614 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 10: really kind of great about the idea that this job 615 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 10: that was the thing that kept me away from him 616 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 10: for a lot of times, you know, more than I 617 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 10: wanted to, because you're traveling, you're out trying to hustle 618 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 10: and you do anything. Is now the thing that's kind 619 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 10: of brought us back together in a really big way. 620 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 10: And he's sincerely one of my one of my one 621 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 10: of my best friends, you know, like just as a 622 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 10: just as a person, and I think he's just so 623 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 10: kind and he's not like the first week that we 624 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 10: were out, we got you know, we did all rehearsals 625 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 10: and we got the first few shows under our belt, 626 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 10: and the whole band is like, okay, guys, let's go. 627 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 10: You know, because my solo band has been with me 628 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 10: for twenty years at that band, so like we're all family, 629 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 10: and we're like, okay, we're all together. Now, let's go out. 630 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 10: Let's get some dinner, let's have some drinks. And call 631 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 10: him up AND'M like, okay, this is we're going to go, 632 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 10: and he's like, I don't know. Daddy's like, I really 633 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 10: want to kill it these next three shows. I'm gonna 634 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 10: go to the hotel room and get some rest. And 635 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 10: I was like, you're dead to me. By the time 636 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 10: he was born, I just met my wife and it's 637 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 10: my wife is not his, So we met. When I 638 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 10: met my wife, I think I became a person more 639 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 10: suited for that. 640 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 641 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 10: Cool, you know, But I'm very honest with him about 642 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 10: especially because he doesn't have any of the compulsion issues 643 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 10: that I have, So you know, I'm not worried about him, 644 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 10: you know, idolizing that part of me, but he just 645 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 10: thinks the stories are very, very funny. Now I am 646 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 10: literally just dad joke guy to him, you know, so 647 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 10: it's like you just he almost can't believe that that 648 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 10: guy ever exist. 649 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 4: I don't think that kind of like male fandom exists 650 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 4: these days, Like it's not cool to like be in 651 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 4: love with a male pop star these days. 652 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 10: I think there's a reason why, like bands like you know, 653 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 10: if you have my chemical romance and things like that 654 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 10: they seem to do. I think there's something more about 655 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 10: I don't know if it's like maybe the idea of 656 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 10: the fraternal bond of like you know, mates getting together 657 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 10: doing something, and like people wanting to kind of emulate that, 658 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 10: yes kind of relationship, I think more than the individual 659 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 10: kind of adelation over or idolation over one person. Yes particular, 660 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 10: you know, I think Michael Michael Hudgins was like hot, yeah, 661 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 10: you know what I mean, Like if I and there's 662 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 10: if I see you know, Liam Gallagher walking on this jam, 663 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 10: I'm just I'm going to fang. 664 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: Right, Okay. Cool. 665 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: So for me, I wanted to ask you how it 666 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 4: was being like, well, you know, if you're talking about 667 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: what you were just talking about then in terms of 668 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 4: like the compulsion and addiction stuff that was going on 669 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 4: for you. It sounds like you didn't handle it very well, 670 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 4: But I like, I was going to ask you what 671 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 4: that was like being an icon for young men, because 672 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 4: I would I would struggle so hard that you have 673 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 4: to imagine, like it's a time where there's no social media. 674 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 10: As big as we were getting, we didn't really have 675 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 10: any perspective on like that. 676 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 6: You know. 677 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 10: We would just know that we would come to shows 678 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 10: and we saw the shows and they were like the shows. 679 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 4: Wow. 680 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 10: We didn't have another metric to compare it to wow, 681 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 10: Like we didn't know how many followers we had versus 682 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 10: how many followers somebody else had. 683 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 4: Did you have a moment where you were like, we're famous, Like, 684 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 4: did you have that? 685 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 6: There were kind of like little moments along the way. 686 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 10: My first solo record was twenty years ago, and I 687 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 10: remember playing like live aid in front of a million 688 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 10: people in Philadelphia with Stevie Wonder Wow. 689 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 6: But then at the same time, I didn't feel that 690 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 6: famous because it was Steve Iavie Wonder. Yeah. 691 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 10: I think my I've always been like that level of 692 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 10: fame where like I just judged myself by how many 693 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 10: other famous people I got to know? 694 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 695 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: Interesting. Another band that was probably on the same parallel 696 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: for me was The Strokes. I was just really into them. 697 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 4: What I saw The Strokes in Australia recently, and Julian 698 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 4: Casablancas was just back on the bus and he was 699 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: just a. 700 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: Bit of a mess, right, yeah, that's I mean, back 701 00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: on it. 702 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 6: And then I've ever been sober, and so maybe. 703 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 10: You know then I mean, I mean we still love 704 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 10: to go out, and we still like to have our 705 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 10: drinks and stuff. I just think, but I've never it's 706 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 10: been a very long time since I've ever let it 707 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 10: get in the way. It's definitely more of a recreational thing, 708 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 10: you yea, you know, once you clock. 709 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 2: Out like a normal person does, as opposed to waking up. 710 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 10: Like the first time my son was like nineteen, Like 711 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 10: my son used to come out on the road, he 712 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 10: was like ten, it was like as soon as he 713 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 10: was coming out, as like everybody were shutting it down, 714 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 10: put it away, don't show anybody that, you know what. 715 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 10: Then when he was like eighteen, it was kind of like, okay, listen, 716 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 10: just so you know, Dad's not like this all the time, 717 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 10: and even like these shows, these women are like sexualizing 718 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 10: my son from the stage and I'm like, he's a baby. 719 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: Stop it. He's twenty seven. By the way, everyone I 720 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: know ye're single. 721 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 6: No, no, it just has a brand new girl friend. 722 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: Stay away, guys. I want to ask you. 723 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 4: About this Bobby movie thing. 724 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 6: All right on, yeah, if. 725 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: You don't know it. 726 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 4: Ryan Gosling does a version of push in the Bobby movie. 727 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: Take I Love It, Take you long? 728 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 10: You know, in nineteen ninety six, I stunded a lot 729 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 10: more like that than people remember it. 730 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you so, first question. The Rob 731 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 4: Thomas voice, Like, it's iconic. You can't not sing your 732 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 4: songs at some stage. 733 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 10: The first couple of records, it was much more Southern 734 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 10: because I was from South Carolina and I had a 735 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 10: really deep Southern accent and it was more slurpy. 736 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know that it became over the years. 737 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so do you like is that a do 738 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 4: you do you when you're singing? Are you like all 739 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 4: right time to go full Rob Thomas on this thing? 740 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 4: And when I try not to, I think it just happens. Yeah, 741 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 4: I mean it's iconic, it's your voice. Yeah, I'm not 742 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 4: really sure. I wouldn't know. I'm not a good enough 743 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 4: singer to put something on. 744 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, okay, cool. 745 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 4: So the second question I have for you, so apparently 746 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 4: Greta Gwiga is said that she's a Matchbox twenty fan, and. 747 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 10: That's what when she wrote me to ask about using 748 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 10: the song, and she wrote, you, yeah, I mean, you 749 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 10: have to give permission. And so when she asked, it 750 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 10: was a one sheet really that just said Greta girlwigs 751 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 10: doing a movie. And I was already in because since 752 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 10: like Francis Hall, I've loved every movie. And but then 753 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 10: Margot Robbie, Ryan Goslin, you know, it's just like I 754 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 10: was like, whatever it is, I'm gonna be you know, like, 755 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 10: what's it's It's Ken's favorite song and he's singing it 756 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 10: by a campfire. So I mean, I'm I'm not stupid. 757 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 10: I know exactly where this is gonna come, right, and 758 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 10: there's it's not wrong because in the nineties there was 759 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 10: this feeling of like manufactured angst in a way which 760 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 10: felt very genuine at the time. And so the way 761 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 10: that I relate to that character was a sense that like, 762 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 10: you know, this this guy was not too bright. He 763 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 10: was young's boy, playing young and and and he didn't 764 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 10: know how to use his emotions. 765 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 6: So he had songs like this that, you know, and 766 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 6: that's how he kind of worked it out. 767 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 10: And when I was young and not that smart, I 768 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 10: wrote songs like that, you know, and that was how 769 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 10: I kind of worked through my own thing. 770 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: And that's why you were poppy La. I mean, that's 771 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: as a young boy. 772 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 4: That's why I loved you guys so much, because as 773 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 4: a young kid, you've got your parents and your teaches 774 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 4: and they're like, you know, you should be like this, 775 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: and then you get bands like you and you like, 776 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 4: oh no, I'm like that. 777 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 6: Now, because there's a lot. 778 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 10: Of people that like that were if you were, if 779 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 10: they were so embedded in that first record. And then 780 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 10: have we as we like, we're much less of a 781 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 10: rock band, you know, we're we're very much pop rock band, 782 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 10: and you know, we tried to try to do a 783 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 10: bunch of different kinds of things and sometimes people aren't 784 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 10: having it, yeah, you know, because they were just kind 785 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 10: of there for that part was Yeah, you're like, I 786 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 10: can't I can't be a that. Yeah, I mean, I'm 787 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 10: fifty three years old. You know, I'm rich. I'm fine, Okay. 788 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 4: So my question for you, Dan is obviously that song 789 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 4: in Bobby is used as like a you know, because 790 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 4: the whole point of the Bobby movie is that men 791 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: have it over women and Bobby dolls just. 792 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 6: It's it's a soundtrack for the patriarchy. 793 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah right, well, put, that's not what that song was about, 794 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 4: though it was it. 795 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 10: No, not, In fact, it was written about me from 796 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 10: the point of view, you were getting pushed around. I 797 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 10: was in a relationship that I was in and I 798 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 10: was and then this by someone who I maybe I 799 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 10: was and I don't know. 800 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 6: I could have been wrong, but it felt like I 801 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 6: was beingnipulated. 802 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 10: It felt like, you know, it was probably she probably 803 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 10: just broke up with me, Like it was probably that 804 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 10: was it, of course, but it just turned it around 805 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 10: because I didn't think that at the time, like nobody 806 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 10: wanted to hear a victim song. 807 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 6: Felt like it was a little better if I could, 808 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 6: if I reverse. 809 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 4: The roles for a man in the nineties to be 810 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 4: talking about getting emotionally manipulated. 811 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that doesn't exist. 812 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 10: It's amazing now that I can have song like the 813 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 10: New song Hard to Be Happy, and you just write 814 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 10: songs about mental health and not feeling you know, not 815 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 10: being okay and things like that. I mean, that's it's 816 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 10: it's a win, yeah, and it's definitely a better time. 817 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 2: But you were writing on Well in the nineties, which. 818 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 10: Was you know that I think where I started to 819 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 10: kind of be able to tap into that thing about 820 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 10: me and just realize that vulnerability was really the currency 821 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 10: in music, you know, And I think and that's the 822 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 10: thing that most people are going to really relate to 823 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 10: over time. Like people might like Push because it's going 824 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 10: to remind them of a certain time, but yeah, you know, 825 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 10: twenty years later, people can listen to Unwell because it 826 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 10: reminds them of a moment they're having right there. And 827 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 10: so I, you know, I'm really just been fortunate enough 828 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 10: to be around long enough to be able to kind 829 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 10: of explore all those different kind of themes. 830 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 4: Sorry, the teenage boy in me is just popping off 831 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: right now. I actually had some friends over for coffee 832 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 4: before I was telling them that I was interviewing you 833 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 4: this afternoon, and they were, like, a friend of mine 834 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 4: said to me, oh, didn't you used to like you 835 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 4: used to like I used to busk a. 836 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: Lot when I was a teenager, all right on. 837 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, And he was like, oh, you know you used 838 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 4: to play like a lot of used to play a 839 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 4: lot of Matchbox twenty and I was like, yeah, I did. 840 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 4: And he said you should ask Rob if he would 841 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 4: sing with you. I literally haven't picked up a guitar 842 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 4: in like fifteen years. 843 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 6: But what happened? Why did you start because you found 844 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 6: a successful radio? 845 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 2: I brought my guitar. 846 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 6: What are we doing? Three am? 847 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 2: That was the idea. 848 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 6: Oh really, yeah, it's good you kidding playing it? 849 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 2: I was going to, well, then unless you want to 850 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: play it. 851 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 10: Huh no, I want to hear you play. Somebody give 852 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 10: me a dollar. I'm nervous about this. 853 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: Don don't you be nervous. 854 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 6: Okay, one American off for one American song. 855 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 4: So I don't know if I'm going to be able 856 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 4: to concentrate on lyrics and guitar. 857 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 2: I can try. I can try, but are you willing? 858 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 2: Are you willing to sing as well? 859 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 6: Let's do it. 860 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 10: I can't do it, thank you, because I don't. I 861 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 10: don't want to just sit here and stare at you. 862 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: Amika. 863 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 10: She said, it's cold outside and she hands me marrying cord. 864 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 7: She's always worried about things like that. She said, it's 865 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 7: all going to end and might as well. 866 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: Been my fault. 867 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 7: She alwas sleeps round it. 868 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 2: And she screams, yeah, voice istrain. 869 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 6: She says, baby, history. 870 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 11: I must be lonely, she says, baby, And I can't 871 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 11: help but be scared of it at all sometimes, but 872 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 11: the rain's gonna wash away. 873 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 2: I believe it. 874 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 12: Nice one dollar, Thank you, Sorry, ro Right, that was unbelievable. 875 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 3: Wow. 876 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 2: I never thought that Rob Thomas would be giving me money. 877 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 6: Dude. 878 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 10: We were in the car googling how to tell the 879 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 10: difference between a beer and a soda when you open 880 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 10: it up? 881 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: Shut up, shut up, All right, let's do it. I 882 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: love that. 883 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 6: Otherwise it'll feel like wasted time. 884 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 4: He's got the goggles on what he is out of 885 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 4: the studio. By the way, he's going to go and 886 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 4: off having his baby. Guys, if you're just joining us, 887 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 4: Rob is going to be doing. Can you hear it now? 888 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: Rob? 889 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 4: You should know on this celebrity leaderboard, Joe Jonas has 890 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 4: six oh, so he's at the bottom end of the 891 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 4: celebrity leaderboard. It kind of goes up from there. Now, 892 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 4: if you get zero, you'll be on the same as 893 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 4: Jason Derulo. I'm not sure if you and Jason have 894 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 4: hung out at all. Uh no, five seconds of somewhere 895 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 4: in here. They got nine yesterday. 896 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 10: Okay, so that's just. If I get one, I'm gonna 897 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 10: feel like a man, so don't worry about it. 898 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: Cool. 899 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 4: Well, you've been practicing in the car, so you should 900 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 4: get one. He's your first. Can that's a beer, Rob Thomas, 901 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 4: thanks for dropping by. It's been great. 902 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 6: Not a beer. Oh, I was so ready. 903 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 10: I feel like I knew exactly what a beer was 904 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 10: going to sound like, and that was it. 905 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 2: I'm happy to go again, Are you sure? Yeah? 906 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 6: Because the think is, let me see, I can't again. 907 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: The problem is, you know you can take that and 908 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 2: shove it up your ass. 909 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 6: I don't want to keep going. 910 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 4: The thing is, if hearing it on the microphone is 911 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 4: really different to hearing it away from the microphone, you're 912 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 4: getting an intense version right now. 913 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 2: Remember that. 914 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 6: I also do. 915 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 10: I feel like when I was in the car, I 916 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 10: got a really false, pumped up sense of my ability 917 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 10: to do this. 918 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 6: I was just I was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna 919 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 6: rule it this can one. 920 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: Here we go. 921 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 6: That's a beer. 922 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 2: That's a beer. 923 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a phoamy thing. 924 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: All right, Look he really is. You can just leave 925 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 2: your goggles on, you know, man, you don't need to 926 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 2: pop back up for air. 927 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 6: I just don't believe you. 928 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 2: All right, here we go, can't you. 929 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 6: That's a beer? 930 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 2: Rob Thomas, thanks again for dropping by. 931 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 10: I always like to point out that I'm a pretty 932 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 10: good songwriter and we could just go with that. 933 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 6: I did. 934 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 10: I I've never been more upset at a stupid skill 935 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 10: that I don't. 936 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 2: Have one can one better than Jason Derulo. You take it, 937 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 2: I'll do it. It's been great having you in man. 938 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 2: Rob's got a brand new album All Night Days. 939 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 4: Tickets to go and see him still Melbourne, Sydney shows. 940 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 4: Great to have you on the studio, Rob Thomas, O 941 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 4: and Llin Woody, thanks so much, man. Thanks without without 942 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 4: Woody your phone on. 943 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 2: We need you again. Yeah, and congrats to I. 944 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 10: Can't believe that just because he's having a baby and 945 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 10: can come say hi to me, But that's fine. 946 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 6: Priorities I guess I don't know. 947 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 2: Thanks Rob. 948 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 4: That's the wheel show. It's happened, guys. The baby the 949 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 4: baby came. Wood, he has flown off to the hospital, 950 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 4: not actually flowing off. We're not that show, and I'm 951 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 4: sure there are ready other radio shows that we taking 952 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 4: a helicopter to the to the hospital. But Wood, he 953 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 4: has gone out of the car park and drove in 954 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 4: his nineteen ninety five Nissen Duals direct. 955 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 2: To the hospital. 956 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 4: Which yeah, I mean like this is the wheel show now, 957 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 4: so I'm not sure where we go to from here. 958 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 4: I did for a little while discuss talking about the 959 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 4: Quamintang political party in the Republic of China, largely the 960 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 4: origins of If anyone's across that Sun Yat Sen in 961 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 4: eighteen ninety four, moving through to Chang Kai Shek also 962 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 4: known as Yang Xi Shi in the formation of Taiwan. 963 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 4: If it was interested in that, get on the podcast Passionate. 964 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 4: If not, well, who knows, I might be back here 965 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 4: doing that tomorrow. This seems unlikely judging why the producers faces, 966 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 4: but anyway, Goodluckwoods.