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This is Clezy and 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: Lisa's podcast. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Coming up. 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 3: On the podcast, we catch up with our a the 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 3: Ancient Expert, the award winning Jeffrey Thomas, about the anniversary 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 3: of MH three seventy and a new docco You. 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 4: Told us what you avoided for the longest time. 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: Talked about me being worried about my girl with interest 10 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 3: rates with her first house and cameras. 11 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 4: Have they gone all retro? 12 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: Lisa, I want to talk it's not the elephant in 13 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: the room because everyone's talking about I want to briefly 14 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: touch on interest rates and they've gone up again, as 15 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: we know. Not fun, not fun at all. What's that 16 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 3: ten now? Ten in a row. 17 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 4: No one likes the goalpost changing every month mortgage. 18 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: As if everything else is in going up too. You know, 19 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: if you look at Leave, the petrol price goes Wednesday's 20 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: that's this morning and at six o'clock, so petrol is 21 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: going up in eight minutes time. But I did like 22 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: the West headline sometimes a critical of these corny headlines. 23 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: I do, but they've put in a Philip low headline, referring, 24 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: of course, to the governor of the Reserve Bank. Ten 25 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: things I had about Low, which I thought was pretty cute, 26 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: although he's no heath led you to look at. But 27 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: I feel like it was only about five minutes ago 28 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: that my daughter Madison was playing with bratstyles with their 29 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: creepy big eyes and their tiny outfits. And now we 30 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: zoom forward to twenty twenty three and she's in her 31 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: early twenties and my girl and her partner have bought 32 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: their first home, so that they did that last year 33 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 3: and immediately everyone's celebrating on the outside and inside Dad's going, oh, 34 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: what do we do here? You know, like I worry, 35 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: you worry about your kids. And I said her at 36 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: the time, I said, look, the rates are going up. Love, 37 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: are you're okay? And she said, Dad, From the time 38 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: we went on real estate dot com, dot a you 39 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: to look for a home and the time we settled 40 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: on our house, their rates went up four four times 41 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: and they've gone up five times since. But she said, 42 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: we're going to be okay. 43 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: Allet she could see what was happening in edge. Take 44 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: that into a chart, well or truly aware, and you 45 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: don't want to just what caught out a lot of players. 46 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: You don't want to interfere too much, you know. 47 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: I've had a few sort of sleepless nights, and it's 48 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: a weird place to be in after all those years 49 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: of worrying more about someone else's mortgage than your own. 50 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: The young line of bed guard, now, how are they 51 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: going to do? And how much do they make it? 52 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: You know, and you don't want to interfere that. You 53 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: don't want to, you know, actually ask them about the 54 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: actual money amount. But I did consider last Christmas and 55 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: Madison's a birth year, her birthdays just a few days 56 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: from Chrissy, do you consider making the Christmas and birthday 57 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: present mortgage payments? 58 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: And then I went, that would have been nice. 59 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: How do you wrap those? 60 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter so they would be accepted. 61 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: I would have loved it. 62 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: They've got vouches for their new home and all this, 63 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: and the fiscal experts Lisa saying that we might get 64 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: one or two more interest rate rises and then the 65 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: inflation beast will be killed killed off, and then the 66 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: rates will drop seven times in twenty twenty four and 67 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. Well, I hope it's not Philip Low, 68 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: because you remember what happened two years ago when he said, oh, 69 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: the rates won't go up until twenty twenty four, and 70 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: then they did. 71 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: So a lot of people had bought homes. 72 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 4: Believe anything that any of those people say. 73 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: No, you shouldn't, and they're all pundits having a bit 74 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: of a crack. 75 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: Now. 76 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: I've come up with solution, a solution for the kids 77 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: with their house. If they're having any trouble, I move 78 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 3: in with them. 79 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: What do you reckon? I move in. They've got a 80 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: spare room. I move in. 81 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: We can I can inject a bit of dad humor 82 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: into the household has on board. We can we share 83 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 3: the mortgage and utilities costs. We can watch Netflix and 84 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: chill together. Let's end a dad already in it, and 85 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: we can watch some fame, some family videos. I've got 86 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: a few beauties. Madison's birth is a good one. I 87 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: don't think Nelson's seeing that one. And I think the 88 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: other one was a projectile vomiting one. I think it 89 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: was a second birthday after too much cake. 90 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: As sure revorce on ninety six air FM. 91 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: Ed Sheeran will smash not only his own attendance record 92 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: but also perths when he plays Optis this weekend, it'll 93 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: be the most attended event WA has ever hadver when 94 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: seventy five thousand fans back into the stadium on Sunday night. 95 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: The massive crowd beats Adel's sixty five thousand at Subi 96 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: Oval a few years back. And didn't realize that that 97 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 4: should be able to get that many in free co. 98 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: I think because she did the in the round, so 99 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: they used the grandstands in. 100 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: Right and Sharon's own previous record when he played a 101 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 4: total to a total of one hundred and twenty thousand 102 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: people over two nights back in twenty eighteen, was he 103 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: the first one to do? Jason Sidikas has confirmed Ted 104 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: Lasso will end with season three, but he's open to 105 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 4: a spin off show. Season three premiers next Wednesday and 106 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: Apple Plus, with co creator Sadeka saying, this is the 107 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: end of the story that we wanted to tell. Well, 108 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: I should hope say. Someone has surveyed a bunch of 109 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 4: restaurant staff in the US and compiled a list of 110 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: the worst celebrities to serve and these are their top five. 111 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: At number five, Gwyneth Paltrow, She allegedly treats service industry 112 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: workers like they're beneath her. Number four is Drake. He's 113 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 4: worth millions, but service claim he doesn't feel like he 114 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: should have to pay for his meals. 115 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: Oh don't you love that, Oh riget Rich. 116 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: Why shouldn't he have to pay for his meals? I'm Drake. 117 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 4: At number three, multiple services say Chloe Kardashian is their 118 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 4: least favorite, not just least favorite Kardashian, calling her extremely 119 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 4: rude and demanding. No one says Chloe wiped her arm 120 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: with a napkin after she accidentally touched her. Oh come on, 121 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 4: you're a cartash and you've been touched by worse than that. 122 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: Number two is James Corden, definitely looking like where there's 123 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: smoke this fly for this guy in restaurant staff, it 124 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 4: wasn't just the Boltazar people. And the number one celebrity 125 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,559 Speaker 4: restaurant staff hate serving is Vogue editor and a winter 126 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 4: described as absolutely horrid. A former maitre D wrote in 127 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 4: his book Your Table Is Ready, her idea of making 128 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 4: a reservation is to call and say I'm coming. 129 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: Oh, that's it. 130 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: And if you've ever asked yourself the question, who has 131 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 4: a strip club themed baby shower. The answer is Kim 132 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: Bassenger at Alec Baldwin's daughter Iland Baldwin. She's just had 133 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 4: a strip club themed baby shower. The party had a 134 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 4: pink cake which featured a baby's first strip club sign, 135 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: was covered in champagne bottles and depicted a doll hunkered 136 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: down beside a toilet. M classy. I don't know what 137 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: the doll was doing, throwing up or something else. I 138 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: don't know, making it rain. 139 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: That's just so many fronts. 140 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: I just I don't know. 141 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: More crazy, more Lisa, More podcasts soon. 142 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: Nine years since MH three seventy vanished with two hundred 143 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 4: and thirty nine people on board, and a documentary comes 144 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 4: out today on Netflix. Joining us to talk about it 145 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: is a aviation expert Jeffrey Thomas. Good morning, Jeffrey. 146 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 5: What are you doing In morning? I was giving a 147 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 5: speech to Boeing in Los Angeles. So yes. In fact, 148 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 5: the last question that was asked and the Q and 149 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 5: A was where's their mage? Three seven? 150 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: I bet it was so non easy wonder answer. 151 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 5: I thought, this is interesting. This will be a prelude 152 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 5: to my interview that's coming up in a few minutes, 153 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 5: so it. 154 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 4: Would be lovely to be able to give the definish 155 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 4: of answer, But I don't think it's found in the 156 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 4: three part Netflix documentary M three MH three seventy The 157 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: Plane that Disappeared. It's out today. You know, it could 158 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: be an interesting watch. But there are also a few 159 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: red flags out there. Jeffreys too looking who there are? 160 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 5: Look, it depends on who's made it. One of the 161 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: things I've seen all the clips from it. What disturbs 162 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 5: me is they seem to be focusing on conspiracy theories, 163 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 5: and there's too many of those. I mean, listeners may 164 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 5: not be aware that there's one hundred and fifty books 165 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 5: being written about the loss of. 166 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: Seventy and fifty. 167 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 5: Well, I know, and some of them, like some of 168 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: them are things like I survived in MATS three seventy. No, 169 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, yeah, I think the most honest, the 170 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 5: most honest one is a psychics guy to MS three seventy. 171 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 5: I think that's the most that's the best one of 172 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 5: the lot. 173 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: To worry, well, well, look look it. 174 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 5: Look the thing is, we haven't found it. We've found 175 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 5: lots of debris, and there's been lots and lots to 176 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 5: conspiracy theories. Most of them are absolute, not most of them. 177 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 5: I think all of them are nonsense. And what we 178 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 5: have to work on is hard, cold, hard evidence, and 179 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 5: that's the debris that's been found. The incredible work of 180 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 5: the University of Western Australia Professor Charie Poterachi is one 181 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 5: of the world's leading oceanographers. He done some reverse drift modeling, 182 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: and then more recently the incredible work of a British 183 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 5: aerospace engineer, Richard Godfrey, who has devised a new way 184 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 5: of tracking it. And that's all leading to a new 185 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 5: search we expect in January of next year by a 186 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 5: company called ocean Infinity using autonomous ships, which is going 187 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 5: to be a first. So yeah, look, I'm really disappointed 188 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 5: with Netflix. Again. I haven't seen it, but from all 189 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 5: the grabs I've seen of it, I don't like what 190 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 5: I see. 191 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 4: I think that that Godfrey guy really sort of which 192 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 4: is your attention. But one of the theories in this 193 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: Netflix series is that Russian operatives stole MH three seventy 194 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 4: via the planes electronic bay accessible by a hatch in 195 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 4: the first class cabin to distract from the Crimean war. 196 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: This would ignore the satellite data which the theorist says 197 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: was tampered with as a decoy. This sounds particularly fanciful. 198 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 5: Well, you know the trouble with well look at this 199 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 5: is it, and the trouble with conspiracies. You would need 200 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 5: so many people involved to pull off something like that, 201 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 5: and the one in the world you can do that. 202 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 5: And the reality is all the evidence, the physical evidence 203 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 5: that's been collected by Blaine Gibson. I know he's in 204 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 5: the series. I don't know how they've cut and pasted him, 205 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 5: but he is in the series. He has found the 206 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 5: physical evidence which is washed up. It's been verified as 207 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 5: coming from m makes three seventy. And people listening may say, well, 208 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 5: why didn't wash up on the West Australian shores, not 209 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 5: the African shores? Was where where it's located? Nineteen hundred 210 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 5: kilometers west of Perth. That's where we believe it is. 211 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 5: The current there goes north and goes west, it goes 212 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 5: right across and down the down the African coast. So 213 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 5: which is why all the debris over there. 214 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 4: I think I was just going to wash up on 215 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 4: the nearest beach. 216 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 5: Well that's will you Well, if you hadn't studied oceanography. 217 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: Or the current. 218 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 5: Yeah you would, yeah, the weather systems. Yeah, the weather 219 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 5: systems come from the west towards the east. Therefore the 220 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 5: winds come that way, but the current doesn't go the 221 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 5: other way. That's what that's all about. 222 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: It to talk about one hundred and fifty books and 223 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: you talk about a lot of this rubbish that come 224 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: out and documentaries and the like. But did these people 225 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: ever think about these families and how much they're affected 226 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: by this, because this must be so upsetting. 227 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: Well, that's exactly right, Claire's. It looks absolutely And I've 228 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 5: met the families. We did an interview when I was 229 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 5: working with the West. We did a session with them 230 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 5: in the boardroom, about ten of them, and they were 231 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 5: telling us their stories and I can tell you there 232 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 5: it wasn't a dry eye in the place. Cameraman, the 233 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 5: cameramen and the sound guy were crying. It was just 234 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 5: so gut wrenching to listen to the trauma of their lives. 235 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 5: And yes, every time a stupid new theory comes out, 236 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 5: either in a book form or just simply an article, 237 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 5: their spirits get lifted, then dashed and torn to pieces. 238 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 5: The torment has been extraordinary for them and it's a 239 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 5: great tragedy that this has gone on. 240 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: I don't think there'd be too many things worse than 241 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: not having an answer. Do you think one day we 242 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 4: will get an answer? 243 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 5: I'm convinced. I mean, I have been to London to 244 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 5: meet the heads of Ocean Infinity, Oliver Plunket. We had 245 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 5: a two and a half hour session chatting about all 246 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 5: the dynamics of this. I've been involved off record with 247 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: a major link ups around the world with academia discussing 248 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 5: Richard Godfrey's work simply as a background before me. And 249 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 5: I'm absolutely convinced as our Ocean Infinity, as are the 250 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 5: people to have peer reviewed Richard god for his work, 251 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 5: that absolutely he is on the money, and it's the 252 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 5: location his pinpointed is just outside the previous search area. 253 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 5: So hopefully at the end of the year we'll have 254 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 5: a resolution to this. And we won't he said, won't 255 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 5: be talking about it in ten years time, as you know, 256 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 5: where is it? 257 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And once again, hard to get your head around 258 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: that search area, and hard to get your head around 259 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: how deep it. 260 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 5: Is four thousand meters. 261 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, another world, you know. 262 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 4: And I think that asks another question that these people ask, 263 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 4: how does the plane just disappear, Well, it's way long 264 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: and down the Yeah, yeah, that's right. Well, absolutely, it's 265 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 4: not going to go away. I don't think until it's solved, 266 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 4: and we really hope that one day it will be. 267 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 5: Absolutely, that's my great hope. And I've been following it 268 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 5: since the first moment was lost nine years ago, and 269 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 5: as I said, I hope we're not discussing it on 270 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 5: the tenth anniversary, but we're discussing the fact that it's 271 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 5: been found. 272 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: Another fifteen books come out by then if that was 273 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: the case. 274 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 5: Thanks probably, Thank you, Jeffrey. 275 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: It's always lovely to talk to you. 276 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 5: All the best, Take care. 277 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: Thanks Jeffrey Thomas from Los Angeles. 278 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: Right, I survived? How is that allowed to even be published? 279 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: Is it self published? Isn't there something? 280 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 4: I mean, how does it even end up anywhere? Yeah, 281 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 4: surely there can be some kind of you know, then 282 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: on that stops things like that getting. 283 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: Out if it's regulated that closely. And then who buys it? 284 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: Is it just family friends that idiots? As you said, 285 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: good to catch up with jeff Thomas and Voice of Reason. 286 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 4: I want to talk about things that you put off 287 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 4: for a long time. A very popular. One is indeed 288 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: the dentist. I, for one, didn't go for a long time, 289 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 4: and then I started making appointments at dentists, and then 290 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 4: CATS realized that I was running out of dentists around 291 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 4: town to go and see. So eventually I went to one, 292 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: but I was terrified of the dentist. And our producer 293 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 4: Susie is the same, but she went to the dentist yesterday. Susie, Hello, hello, long, 294 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: do you mind admitting how long you put it off for? 295 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 6: Okay, Perth, I'm going to be honest and throw myself 296 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 6: under a bus. Oka fifteen years, sorry. 297 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 4: Fifteen years without going to the dentist. And what did 298 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: you finally went? 299 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 6: I finally went. I'm in this big thing at the 300 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 6: moment where I'm trying to just be more like health conscious, 301 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 6: like going to the doctors more and just having general checkups. 302 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 6: And the dentist was the next thing on the list. 303 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: Did you have to have matched up? 304 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 6: I've had a clean it's pretty good. I've only got 305 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 6: a couple of little feelings. 306 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 4: Apparently, that's amazing. Yeah, it could have been a lot worse. Yeah, 307 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: but you would have known about it if it was 308 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: going to be a lot worse. I think usually I 309 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: was driven to the dentist by pain something Dad paid 310 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: no pain that that'll make you go eventually, and have 311 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: you Are you saying you were inspired other people to go? 312 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 6: Now someone in the office has said they're in the 313 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 6: same boat, right, and they've booked an appointment now as well. 314 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 6: So a lot of it at the time. I know 315 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 6: it's ridiculous, but I've never had any issues, thank God. 316 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 6: And just I guess a combination of scared and I 317 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 6: grew up, you know, with a father that was very 318 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 6: you know, she'll be right kind of attitude. You know, 319 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 6: it doesn't go to the doctor, he'll like get a 320 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 6: cut and super glue himself like that kind of thing. So, 321 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 6: you know, just avoiding those kind of services. 322 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: I wouldn't try that with my teeth, thinking that, you. 323 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 6: Know, there's always other people who need it more than me. 324 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: So just yeah, it's real. You hadn't really that long. 325 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: You're just the little baby last. 326 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: Time you went, What did you say? Other people out 327 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: there that need it more than me? The appointment appointments 328 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: for everyone from all the. 329 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: Places Lisa went and booked up and then canceled it. 330 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like about all those wasted days. 331 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: So this is like procrastinators unit or dobbin a procrastinator. 332 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: Have you put that bit of furniture together yet? 333 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: Shut up? No, I haven't the response I told you 334 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: there are other things that had to happen first, I 335 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 4: haven't done those either. The dentists, Matt and Dianella. What 336 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: did you avoid for the longest time? 337 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 7: Well, like you, Lisa, and so the dentist was winding 338 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 7: actually twenty years that I it. Yeah, and what got 339 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 7: me there was too infected teak, so that it came 340 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 7: out pretty much straight away. 341 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: That's like I said, it's the pain that gets you 342 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: down in the end if you get if you end 343 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 4: up with an abscess of some sort. Oh my god. 344 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: And what twenty years Matt? Was it a no, Look, 345 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. 346 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 7: It's just one of those things. 347 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 5: I think family lost it in the way. 348 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 4: If it broke, don't fix it. 349 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, well that too, and you know only all know 350 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 7: that Dennis charged like the wounded bull, so you know 351 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 7: there's probably a bit of that too. 352 00:16:59,640 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 353 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: If it ain't infected, don't fix it, that's right. 354 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 7: And were actually as it was, so one of my 355 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 7: seat is actually broken. 356 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: But it was. 357 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 7: It wasn't causing any paintory. 358 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: There was another side. You could eat on the other 359 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 4: side and then eventually run out of side. 360 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 8: Trouble. 361 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: Now I totally understand. Yes, yeah, the dentist. So many 362 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 4: reasons to not want to go. But good morning to 363 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: all identist. 364 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 3: We do love yeah, all those hygienists, and thank you 365 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: mat Have a good day, guys. 366 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what. They've come a long way 367 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: o modern. It's much different than it was. You know, 368 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 4: even twenty twenty five years ago. 369 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: I still have their hands in your mouth and ask 370 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: you a question. 371 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 4: You know what I don't don't talk to me. I know, well, 372 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: your hands are in my mouth procrastinat a Wednesday, we're 373 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 4: asking what you avoided doing for the longest time. Going 374 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 4: to the dentists proving. 375 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: Very popular, it's gone off. 376 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 4: It is the one that we have all mentioned. But 377 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: Debbie and Thornley, what is it for you? 378 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 9: Well, I'm going to stick with the theme of International 379 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 9: Women's Day. You're not going to understand this. Yeah. One 380 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 9: thing that us women put off that we know we shouldn't, 381 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 9: it's pa. 382 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: Yes, you know why, because they keep that damn thing 383 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: in the fridge. But glazy is just completely clueless. What 384 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 4: are they keeping the fridge? 385 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: What got I've got a wife and a daughter, that's true, 386 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: would you No, I've never. 387 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 4: Clean. 388 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 9: You've got to clean a manicure and make sure it's nice. 389 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: And yeah, I know it's going out, so. 390 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: Honest, it's going on and out. 391 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: You're gonna put on your best your best face. 392 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: I thought you said, pets me. He's a guitarist in 393 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: the Food Fighters. 394 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 9: You just don't get it clear. 395 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 2: You're right there, it's true. 396 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 4: And these are the things, of course, that we shouldn't 397 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 4: put off. Another one is the boobies. 398 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 9: Get what's going to say? It was between that one? Yeah, 399 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 9: you won't understand that one. 400 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: Understand boies. I'm good. 401 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 4: In the interest of International Weamer's Day, Debbie and I 402 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 4: are reminding everyone to check their bits. Well done, Yeah, 403 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: check your bits inten sixty five. What did you put 404 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: off doing for the longest time? Could have been learning something. 405 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 4: Maybe it was getting your driver's license. 406 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a lot of people do. 407 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 4: That's another one. 408 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 3: My mum got a license at forty or something. Yeah, yeah, 409 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: what about Yeah she was forty got the automatic of course. Lazy, 410 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: lazy foot. What about what about fixing something at home? 411 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 3: You know that's the that's the gym, is it? 412 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? I grew up with daddy fixer. 413 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah he was. 414 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 4: He was he for everyone. 415 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 416 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, people would have disliked that. Have it fixed, But 417 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: in two seconds. 418 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: You stare at it, you or do it in the holidays. 419 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 4: Holidays past didn't rub off on me, that's for sure, 420 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 4: Chantelle and Madly, Hello, Chel, what did you avoid? 421 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 10: I avoided going to a specialist to find out why 422 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 10: I had persistent ankle pain and found out that I 423 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 10: had broken it about ten years earlier and. 424 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 3: Really messed it up a decade of pain. So you 425 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: added to the injury with that procrastinating Chantel. 426 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, they had to rebuild the whole thing with 427 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 10: all kinds of stuff. 428 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 4: Do you remember the incident that caused the initial injury? 429 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: No? 430 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 10: Children, you know, you just remember always having a small ankle. 431 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 10: But the specialist stated the stone back to at least 432 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 10: ten years. 433 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 4: Wow. 434 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: That's incredible. 435 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 4: Wow. 436 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 2: Okay, And even the fact they can do that, they 437 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: work out what it. 438 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: Was I. 439 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 4: It's hard to imagine that could have been walking around 440 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 4: on a break ye, isn't it. 441 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 10: Yeah's that I had broken the main bones in the planet, 442 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 10: so obviously I just strapped it up, and they said 443 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 10: strapping it held it in place, but cook had broke 444 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 10: all the bones around. 445 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: Oh right, okay, and were you're taking painkillers through all this? 446 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: And tell what was going on? 447 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 4: Because we need all appreciated. 448 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 5: On us to it. 449 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, now you're on the right track. Yeah. 450 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, it was already built the full metal now. 451 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 4: Biic ankle cantel. 452 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: Shan't tell the barnic woman. That's amazing. It's a long 453 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: time too, isn't. The procrastinators are really good at putting 454 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: things off for a long time. 455 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: Incredible how people can just get used to the pains. 456 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: Got used to it. 457 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: I just got used to it. Juliana and Hernhill, Hello, Hi, 458 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: how are you? What did you avoid for the longest time. 459 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 8: Putting off diagnosis of breast cancer? 460 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: You happened? 461 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 8: I was renovating my house and I just bought this 462 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 8: old home and I saw the lump and I thought 463 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 8: I must get that scene too. And eventually six months 464 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 8: later and it's scene too, and the biopsy followed, and 465 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 8: then the doctoring me, I need to see you urgently, 466 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 8: and I went shopping thinking I know what the diagnosis. 467 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 9: Is, but guess what, I just beat it. 468 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 8: Yes, oh, Clia, So I'm studying radiation today and I'm 469 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 8: along the planet. 470 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: Oh, good luck with all of that, Juliana. 471 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 8: Thank you. Look every woman out there, find a lump, 472 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 8: just go and. 473 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 9: Get it checked. 474 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 4: Timely reminder. 475 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 8: Absolutely, it's a lump. Thank you. 476 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 9: Take care of everyone. 477 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 4: Thank you, Bye bye bye. Bruce in com Scott, Hello, 478 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 4: hello guys. 479 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: Bruce. 480 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 5: Well, I've been putting off rebuilding a car. 481 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 7: I bought it from nineteen eighty nine. 482 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and. 483 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 5: It's been sitting in my carboard of the sin I 484 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 5: first saw the car in eighty three. 485 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 7: So well, long, long, long time. 486 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: Forty years. 487 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 4: That is a long relationship. 488 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 3: That's a long project, Bruce. And you're not the only 489 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: person who's got one in their car board or garra. 490 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 491 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 11: Yeah. 492 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 5: Well, as I said, it's outlived one wife, two girlfriends, 493 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 5: and I've still got here. 494 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: You reckon, there might have been something in that. 495 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 3: That's funny another way when you say when you say outlived, 496 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: like as they moved on. 497 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 10: You know the relationships ended, but the car. 498 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: Are you in a relationship now? 499 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 6: No? 500 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: Nor so, Bruce. When was the last time you tinkered 501 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: with the car? When? When was the last time you 502 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: did something to it? 503 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 11: Well, I've been picking up bits and pieces over the years, 504 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 11: and that's about as far as I ah right. 505 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 7: It needs to come out and go on to wrote 506 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 7: history and have everything done. 507 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 4: Oh Bruce, good luck, hoisted up buddy. 508 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: Oh great, cool too, that's. 509 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 4: Funny, Leanne and cool and got last call? What did 510 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: you avoid for the longest time? 511 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 11: A Christmas tree? I didn't put a Christmas tree out 512 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 11: for my daughter. She's twenty five. Yeah, and she kept going, 513 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 11: why you put a Christmas treap? And I go, you 514 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 11: got one at Nanas and Rara and then yeah, and 515 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 11: then finally this year I've got two grandchildren, one five 516 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 11: and she goes, if you don't put one, ut, we're 517 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 11: not coming to visit you Christmas. 518 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: It's usually taking it down that people avoid. If it's 519 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: still up at Eastern it's been up to. 520 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 11: Happened it was up until about two weeks ago. 521 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 4: Oh really, you've really embraced the Christmas tree after all 522 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 4: this time of not you're making up for lost time. 523 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 11: I am, I am, thank you for. 524 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 4: The eighty gree Well this morning more crazy Lisa More Podcast. 525 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: Soon ninety six air vans Man in the Western Force, 526 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: Isaac findes Lola Western Feel the Force, join the Sea 527 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: of Blue become a Western Force member for the twenty 528 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: twenty three Super Rugby Pacific season. 529 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 4: Now, good morning, Isaac, good morning, thanks for having me again, 530 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: thanks for coming in. So the Western Force play Mowanna 531 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: PACIFICA sounds like a Pixar movie at HbF Park this weekend. 532 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 4: Since we saw you last, you've had a great first 533 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 4: round win against the Rebels. It was only the second 534 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 4: time the Western Forces won its opening game. Yeap, so 535 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 4: that gets that hoo good start. 536 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: Good. 537 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was at that game, Isaac. You spent a 538 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: lot of time warming up in that first half, mate, 539 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 3: where you're getting worn out? 540 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: Or is it work to your favor? 541 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 12: I think it works for our favor. You know, you 542 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 12: near that second win by the time you get on, 543 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 12: So yeah, it worked out well. 544 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 3: And when you came out and your speed made the 545 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: difference and we're going, Hey, the man. 546 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 4: Felt good. 547 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: It's great. 548 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 4: Sorry if you could hear, yeah, sorry, I love it. 549 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 4: Jeremy Thrush came out of a short lived retirement to 550 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: score the winning try. 551 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't know, I feels happy or sad, but 552 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 12: he definitely felt it after the game. But you can 553 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 12: tell what a what a professionally is just with two 554 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 12: training sessions and coming in and put in a performance. 555 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 4: So what changed his mind to come as his. 556 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 12: If the coach gave him a real choice, we need 557 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 12: you your thirty seven, come do it. We need you 558 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 12: pretty much. 559 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, well paid off, Inn. This is a beautiful It 560 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: was good. 561 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 3: It was a good moment, and that crowd was so 562 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: loud at that moment because everyone knew this great comeback. 563 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 564 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 12: Yeah, he's a very very like guy Jeremy Thrush, so 565 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 12: it's good to have him back in the team around 566 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 12: the boys. 567 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: Are you still mixing up the songs that you sing 568 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 4: in the change room afterwards? That's a bit of a 569 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 4: you know, we've kept that going. So what was it 570 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 4: this after the winning game? 571 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 12: Oh, it was a bit of a free from desire. 572 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 12: It's a sort of it's not a it's sort of 573 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 12: a song that we picked up at the end the 574 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 12: last year. So just a bit more of a heart 575 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 12: techno songs, okay, brother a dance song rather than a singer. 576 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 12: So it was a bit more of an exciting one 577 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 12: rather than a sing along. 578 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 4: This time it might have been Miley Cyrus coming in 579 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: on a wrecking baller. It could be pretty much what 580 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 4: we did. 581 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 12: Hopefully we can get that this weekend. 582 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well after the last weekend which wasn't so good. 583 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that was a bit of a thumping. 584 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, tough game to be a part of. But I 585 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 12: guess we're together and we've got to bounce back together. 586 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: Okay, So you were beaten by the Reds in Melbourne. 587 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 4: It was twenty to seventy one. You were nine points 588 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 4: down at halftime, which is a bit different to what 589 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 4: it ended up being. Support a minute, Yeah, pretty much. 590 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 12: We're asking ourselves what happened? Yeah, yeah, I guess you've 591 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 12: got to look into the preparation of the week what 592 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 12: went wrong, And we just sort of spoke about being 593 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 12: ten percent off. At that level, you're going to pay 594 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 12: the price. So we had a real good chat yesterday 595 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 12: and a big review which was which was tough to watch, 596 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 12: but I think we need to learn from it real 597 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 12: quick and move on quick as well. 598 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 4: A red card went out too. It was Ollie, uh, 599 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 4: what kind of what does that do to you? Sort 600 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 4: of psychologically when red flags start popping. 601 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 12: Up and looks as I said, as a team, you 602 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 12: got to be better to deal with that. But it 603 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 12: also is deflating when you know you lose a yellow 604 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 12: and a red and yeah you're obviously down, and yeah, 605 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 12: it just seems like it gets worse. 606 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 4: And just one more things. 607 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, way when you throw it and you could see 608 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 3: early in that first game, Michael Wells the skipper, he 609 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: goes where angels fear to tread. Let's be honest. He's 610 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: got more and more courage than he needs to have. 611 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: But he ended up injured, is he Okay? 612 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think he had a bit of a bit 613 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 12: of a head knock, So I'm not sure how bad 614 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 12: how severe it was, so yeah, I'll find out before 615 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 12: we find out next tomorrow. 616 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, traveling all right? Yeah, you want the skipper 617 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: out of it? 618 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. So Moana Pacifica to win a game. Yeah, 619 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 4: so you'd be feeling good about this weekend. 620 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely. I think after that, after the weekend, you've 621 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 12: you've got to bounce back. And it's a perfect, perfect 622 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 12: opportunity for us to bounce back this weekend against. 623 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: At home at home. Yeah. Yeah, So back to that 624 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: first game. 625 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and for the women's comp I it's International Women's 626 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 3: Day at least when I mentioned today, it should be 627 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 3: every day. 628 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: But this is great for the future of the game 629 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: with the women, with the lords of the semi professional. 630 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely. As I said, we've I've probably seen the 631 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 12: girls in it training more than I've ever ever had before. 632 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 12: So you can clearly see they're heading in the right direction, 633 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 12: which is something you'd love to see as a club 634 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 12: as well. 635 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 4: Do they go I mean it's it's a you know, 636 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: it's a physical game. They go just as hard. 637 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 12: To be honest, I think they go hard. Yeah, there's 638 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 12: a lot bigger collisions I think just because you know, 639 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 12: as men were probably try to avoid it, but they're 640 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 12: straight into it. 641 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 642 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what it is. 643 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: But game. 644 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to say a different code, but I remember 645 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: seeing my first day of our women's game up close, 646 00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: and I'm going. 647 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: This, this is brutal to worries because we're just not 648 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: used to. 649 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 12: Context quite down, quite big. 650 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you go all right, pace yourself, girls, you know, 651 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: lead of all cameras still there at the counter of 652 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 4: Evidently film cameras are making a comeback as a new 653 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: generation falls in love with analog photography. At the counter 654 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 4: of lead of all Cameras in a suburban Perth, Jaden 655 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: Watts recently dropped off five disposable film cameras to be developed. 656 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 4: Remember those days you get all the rubbish ones back 657 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 4: as well. So while he's from a generation that grew 658 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 4: up with smartphone cameras and instant image sharing and filters 659 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 4: and whatnot, he has come to embrace the analog analogue technology. 660 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: He said, I think it's nice to capture the memories 661 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: just at the time, and if it's a bad photo, 662 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 4: it's a bad photo, and you just accept that. He 663 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 4: also likes the look of an image that's been produced 664 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 4: on film and isn't shaped by special effects on social 665 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: media filters. He said, I like the way they just 666 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 4: come through. I like the oldness. I like how they look. 667 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 4: I like the anticipation as well of the wait for processing, 668 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 4: which can now take three weeks evidently, but I don't 669 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 4: mind waiting that long. What are you talking about? What 670 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: are you talking about? These are all the things that 671 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 4: we saw as the downsides of photography. 672 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: Back in the day. 673 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: The photos, the blurry photos you're paid for those crap photos. 674 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 4: You're paid for those, the ones without a head. You're 675 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 4: still wondering who that was, or you've got as a body. 676 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: You pay for those, who's your uncle? 677 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 678 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 4: And the best thing was you got you had the 679 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 4: you know, the luxury of getting two of them. 680 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: But you get the bad ones too. 681 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 4: And we're even the one hour photo development things were 682 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 4: you know, you're still waiting, But you're waiting. You want 683 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: to wait three weeks? You find that charming and you 684 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 4: get the photo of your brother about waiting three weeks? 685 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: My five year old brother with the red demon eyes 686 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: in the background. My god, so bad. 687 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 4: Absolutely, there is nothing charming about waiting three weeks? 688 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: Is this a romanticism? Is this a romanticism like Vinyl? 689 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 4: It is? I think yes, it's like Vinyl. It's like, 690 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 4: come on, what's going on. It's the reason we do 691 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 4: it differently now. 692 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: You so it takes three weeks? 693 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 4: If you I get the charming retroness about vinyl, get 694 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 4: the charming retroness of a of a walkman, I get 695 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 4: the charm and retroness of a fond and a chicken 696 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 4: Ala king. 697 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: Please, But waiting three weeks for your 698 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 4: Photos, there's nothing charming about that cleazy and Lisa