1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Now we know that East Darnham Regional Council is progressing 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: the call for formal recognition of Aboriginal community controlled local 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: government councils by the Northern Territory and Australian governments. They've 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: got three motions which are going for consideration and endorsement 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: to the General Meeting of the Local Government Association, which 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: is legant as many people will know it today here 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory. Now I'm really pleased to say 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: that joining me in the studio this morning, we have 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: got the East Dannham Regional Council President lap Along Daramanji. 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Good morning to your laff Along. 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: Good morning, ye. 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. And we have also 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: got the CEO Dale Keane. Good morning to you Dale. 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Great great to have you both in the studio. I 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: really appreciate your time and I know that we have 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: got this situation today we're the call for that formal 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: recognition of Aboriginal community controlled local government councils. Those three 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: motions happening today at Lagan and at the meeting Dale, 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: I might go to you first what are these motions 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: and what will they mean for the Arnham region. 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: Thanks for that look, absolutely, there's three important motions and 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 3: we're really confident. We've been talking to the mayors and 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: the CEOs of the other councils, particularly the mayors and councilors, 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: and they're really supportive as so you know, as other 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: motions were put up in the past were really you know, 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: we're all in the same boat on this. So but 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 3: the first real thing about it is about the recognition 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: by the Anti Australian governments of the current Aboriginal control 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: of local government in the Northern territory. It's really unique 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: a It's not like down South Sydney, Melbourne even o 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: there as South Australia and so on. There's such a 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: control in terms of Aboriginal population and the board members 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: and local authorities in each and every community gay so 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: that is there. But we are finding we really want 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: to work constructively with government when we work in closing 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: the game and working the voice, which is meeting Indigenous voice, 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: which is about local and regional control and say in 38 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: a voice yep. 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: And also anti government's local decision making. 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: That's been a policy for four years that we can 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: make the difference as a bridge and lap Along will 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: took that more in a second A. But the bridge 43 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: with all the additional people, the tos, the clans and 44 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: all of people, young women, old, some people don't always 45 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: have the voice as strong as others. When we're talking 46 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: about how to improve an engage your community with the 47 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: other levels of government, the Balander, the non. 48 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: Indigenous levels specifically. 49 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: Now I'm happy to see Warren snow in there today 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: at Legant and is speaking on behalf of marrying wouldn't 51 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: get there, and we're talking to the current government as well. 52 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: But there's been thirty one point eight million dollars and 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: it's been allocated in the budget. 54 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 4: For the voice. 55 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the proportion of that for the six areas 56 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: and the NT they would relate to to go to 57 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: practically the local authorities and council as a key role 58 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 3: of not just having government come in and and til 59 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 3: can sort of listen or see the listen and go away. 60 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: But actually where you write things down, you follow up 61 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: with action. And that's what we do day in day 62 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: already for fourteen years. And all the pre accounts, the 63 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: councilors before this regional one they're all Aboriginal two. And 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: the next bit about that is just to ensure that 65 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 3: that federal policy A that's just been endorsed in December 66 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: last year is in line with all really that local government, 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: local decision making when it comes in line with that, 68 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: so you don't have government going out there fed's one 69 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: week into the next month or whatever, because it should 70 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: all be joined up. A community w of course, just 71 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: see it all together and all connected. And look the 72 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: last one it's it's it's it's the last in terms 73 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: of priority, but really significant as well as Aboriginal organizations. 74 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: Councilors can't get one dollar because. 75 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: They're not recognized as Aboriginal only, which are really important 76 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: to a and we work with them all the Averaginal corporations, 77 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: we contract them, we partner with them, but we do 78 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: have very high capacity and we can be there to 79 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: nurture them, support them and partner with them, which we 80 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: do every day. The other funds we get, but we 81 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: don't get any dollars. And there's big opportunities with the 82 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: land councils and the a BA for good work we 83 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: can do together on that as well. 84 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: Along How important is it that's some of these change happens, 85 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: but then it is led by local Aboriginal people. 86 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: I reckon talking as First Nations. 87 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 5: Leader, a strong leader in the community where I come from, 88 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 5: Millian Gimbee in northeast Crocodile Islands of eastern anam Land. Right, 89 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 5: just wanted to recap on what we are trying to 90 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 5: enhance today. It's about building that capacity and a bridge. 91 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: Of commonality between the government and. 92 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 5: People in the remote community as we call ourselves community control, 93 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 5: local government and local authorities. We needed our voice into 94 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 5: the top level of what we're enhancing and what we 95 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 5: are doing because sometimes our people are struggling between the time. 96 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 5: I mean today is the twenty first century. We need 97 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 5: to start walking together to build that capacity in what's 98 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 5: missing in the chapter of the Lives of the First 99 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 5: Nation Indigenous People. 100 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: The your law, I guess yep. 101 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: And how important is it as well? You know when 102 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: you talk about the young ones coming up, you know, 103 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: the young ones growing up in community and having opportunities 104 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: and being able to stay out in their communities. 105 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 5: Also, well, I'm I've got a great passion to try 106 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 5: and put an emphasis into what I believe we're depending 107 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 5: on those young people that we wanted to seccur you 108 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 5: know from where we are in this chapter to the 109 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 5: next phase into the next horizon. You know, I wanted 110 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 5: my people that we wanted to build a bridge of 111 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 5: communality for them to walk in the pastway of freedom 112 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 5: from where they are. But we need the heart of 113 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 5: the Government of Australia to give us a fair faired 114 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 5: income spirit where we can work together to build that 115 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 5: capacity and a bridge of communality between your war and 116 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: balunder and love. 117 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: Long do you feel as though we're getting to the 118 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: point where that is starting to happen in your communities 119 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: and in your region. 120 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, there is little that is happening, but we needed 121 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 5: more of their passion, their demand and giving us a 122 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 5: help in hand to lift us to the next phase, 123 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 5: into the next level so that we can sustain and 124 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 5: work together and to enhance a breakthrough together and walk together. 125 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: And with this meeting that's opening today with legant you know, 126 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: and being able to put forward these motions, it's obviously 127 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: it is an opportunity where the people of the East 128 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Darnham region will hopefully be able to have their voices 129 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: heard and to be able to put forward these motions 130 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: and really make sure that you are bridging that gap. 131 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 5: Well, I guess talking hard to heart, Sol to soul 132 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 5: as human being. 133 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: As you're from manham Land. 134 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 5: I wanted the heart of the government to work with 135 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 5: us and we wanted to walk with them. 136 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: This is the twenty first century. 137 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 5: It's a call of wakening, a great call of wakening 138 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 5: where we need to work together to sustain our nation. 139 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 4: And you'd like Lapelungs. 140 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: We'd like to invite Chancey Paik the Minister of Local 141 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: Government's invited and keen to wait his response and other 142 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: key ministers. 143 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: Do you want to talk about that level of inviting 144 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: Hi Mento country. 145 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: Proper way ceremony, right, you had that bond with the people, yeah, 146 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: and then start proper discussions. 147 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I reckon. We wanted the minister I don't know 148 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 5: the directory to come and visit our community. It's good 149 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 5: to know that there's someone out there talking on behalf 150 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 5: of us. We wanted him to come and sit with 151 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 5: us in the fair Thai land, in anam Land, so 152 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 5: that we can have orientation to say this is the 153 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: country where we belongs to. We have been struggling back 154 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 5: in the days. We have seen a lot of our 155 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 5: people involving in politics and all those other stuff in government. 156 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 5: Building that alliance saying enough, it's enough, it's a bad time. 157 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 5: We need to listen, listen very carefully and talk for 158 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 5: the truth telling is initiative at the moment. 159 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: And so Lap Belong, you are inviting you want to 160 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: see the Minister Chancey pay head out there to the 161 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: community in that in that traditional way. 162 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 2: We wanted to welcome him to the country so that I. 163 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 4: Was there and I would look forward to his when 164 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 4: he's able to do that. 165 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 166 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate you both coming in this morning. 167 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: I think it's really important, you know, to hear from 168 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: you both. I appreciate your time. I know it's a 169 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: busy time today as well. There's a lot happening, Lap Belong. 170 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: I understand as well that you have got have you 171 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: got a rock band? 172 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 5: Well, going back to nineteen seventy nine, Yeah, we started 173 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 5: up as Black Wizard Band. 174 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: Yep. 175 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 5: I've when my brother passed away, so I picked up 176 00:09:52,080 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 5: the sales seventy nine, nineteen seventy nine, and then we 177 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 5: we're called Winning a Band then, yep, and today we're 178 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:10,479 Speaker 5: still Winning a band. Did some recordings back in nineteen nineties. 179 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety six we did another second album and 180 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 5: that was called Dreamtime Wistay Modern Time Vision. The first 181 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 5: one nineteen nineties, it was a dream Time Shadow. But 182 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: the second one, I was there in the studio with 183 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 5: a fame of Goanna. 184 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: What's his name? He was playing in the Goanna band. 185 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 5: Shane Howard, Shane Howard, So we were there together. 186 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: He was there with me, and yeah, we had a 187 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: good time there. 188 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: Oh, I'd love to hear some of your music. 189 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: Plain to night. 190 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 3: I understand that the Local Government Association dinner pretty awesome. 191 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: Oh that is wonderful. Well, Like I said, I really 192 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: appreciate you both coming in this morning and speaking extensively 193 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: to us. I reckon, it's really important you know that 194 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: everybody around the Northern Territory here's the work that is 195 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: happening out in the East Dannham region at the moment. 196 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: So I really appreciate you both coming in today. East 197 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: Darnham Council President lap Along Dara Maji, thank you very 198 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: much for your time today and I also appreciate your 199 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: time today, Dale Keen, CEO of the Eastdarnham Regional Council. 200 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again soon. 201 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 5: Honor for coming to your studio. I admire that. 202 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: Thank you. 203 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: No We really appreciate you taking the time to come 204 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: and have a chat with us today, so thank. 205 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: You, thanks very much. 206 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: It is just eight minutes away from eleven o'clock and 207 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: I tell you what, I don't know. Well, we're going 208 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: to have a bit of queen here, but I don't know. 209 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: I reckon I'd rather hear Lap Belongs band, so I'm 210 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: going to have to do that another day