WEBVTT - 🍺 PUB TEST: Do You Like Open Plan Kitchens?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get on down to the Jonesy Mander Arms for.

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<v Speaker 2>The pub test. Pub test. Does it pass the pub test?

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<v Speaker 2>If something sounds unlikely, then it should fail. The pub test. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the pub test. Doesn't pass the sniff test. Stop it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not helpful. We're talking today about the open plan

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<v Speaker 2>kitchen and here's a couple... Australians, we love our open

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<v Speaker 2>plan kitchen. Open plan living. We're all for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're a kid like we were in the

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<v Speaker 1>olden days, the kitchen was blocked in and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a little servery window with a bit of masonite that

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<v Speaker 1>would slide back and forth, and the poor lady of

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<v Speaker 1>the house would be stuck in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much it was the mum.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd pop her head out the window.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now more men and women share the space together.

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<v Speaker 2>An open plan allows all of that. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>what an anthropologist and a sociologist has said about the

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<v Speaker 2>psychology of the open plan kitchen, that the sanity requires

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<v Speaker 2>a hidden area to drop the social mask. Modern architecture

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<v Speaker 2>forces you into a state of performative labor. So you

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<v Speaker 2>have to keep up your host persona. If you're scrubbing dishes,

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<v Speaker 2>you turn your sanctuary into a stage where you're never

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<v Speaker 2>off duty. It goes on to say here that evolutionary

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<v Speaker 2>psychology involves us only feeling safe in spaces where you

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<v Speaker 2>can see out but can't be seen. This has been studied.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you have an open plan kitchen, you're exposed

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<v Speaker 2>from every angle. Your amygdala refuses to switch off your

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<v Speaker 2>threat detection because your peripheral vision, there's movement, there's action,

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<v Speaker 2>there's everything. You cannot relax. And that plays into this

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<v Speaker 2>other thought, the cognitive load. But if you're one of

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<v Speaker 2>those people who can't stand to see a sponge out

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<v Speaker 2>of place, plates piled up, you can't sit and watch

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<v Speaker 2>television while that's on. You cannot seal off the room

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<v Speaker 2>and deal with it later because Because once you see it,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't relax.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the congeal, as you know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, so people can't relax while that's in their peripheral vision.

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<v Speaker 1>Your kitchen's very open plan.

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<v Speaker 2>I like an open plan kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got an outdoor dining area and then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>your dining area. So they're at each end of your

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<v Speaker 1>giant bench.

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<v Speaker 2>In the middle. In a way. I mean, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>entertain that much anymore with Harley being as she is.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to have lots of social stuff in our

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<v Speaker 2>house and I loved the big open plan because I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't someone who thought I had to wash up as

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<v Speaker 2>I went. I let all that just go for weeks

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<v Speaker 2>at a time. So the open plan kitchen, does it

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<v Speaker 2>pass the pub test? I reckon it does.

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<v Speaker 1>My kind of thought with it, I reckon a closed

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<v Speaker 1>off kitchen, if you're in there, you feel isolated from everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And that to me... I question whether that creates a

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<v Speaker 2>social anxiety, being isolated from what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not for them. I've got walls around my

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen and I like the privacy of cooking and being

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<v Speaker 1>away from the family while I throw a shrimp on

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<v Speaker 1>my fry pan.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, I don't like the open plan, don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the island bench. I'm happy with what I've got.

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<v Speaker 1>I think open plan kitchen and dining areas just makes

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<v Speaker 1>the whole home look.

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<v Speaker 2>Open and inviting, everyone's involved. The woman should not be

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<v Speaker 2>stuck in the back of the kitchen. It should be

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<v Speaker 2>open for everyone and I think that an open-plan kitchen

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<v Speaker 2>is a great idea. I did until COVID and then

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<v Speaker 2>we all started screaming at each other. I'd say passers.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got open space living. If it's a very aromatic food,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to worry about your house smelling out.

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<v Speaker 2>You can have all air out. Neighbours can have a

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<v Speaker 2>whiff and get jealous. You just have a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>You can put the music on. You can kick back.

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<v Speaker 2>You can enjoy the air outside. It doesn't get stuffy.

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<v Speaker 2>You can have a dog around. Don't worry about muddy

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<v Speaker 2>paw prints if it gets weather-turned a little bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there you go. I'm not sure I follow the logic,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think I'd be closing the servery

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<v Speaker 1>window on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think most people like the open plan, but it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can't relax, that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the pressures.

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<v Speaker 2>Or because your brain can't stop seeing the stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>your brain starts to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying bring back the servery window?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm saying for some people, not the servery window,

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<v Speaker 2>but for some people that may explain why it's very

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<v Speaker 2>hard to sit while your kitchen's in your peripheral vision

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<v Speaker 2>if you can't relax.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the servery window, maybe that's a thing we

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<v Speaker 1>could bring back.

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<v Speaker 2>How about I have one now?

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<v Speaker 1>I could just slide the window.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd love that. We'll be fighting over who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to seal each other off first.