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Speaker 2: From ninety six air VM to where you're listening today

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Speaker 2: This is Clearsy and Lisa's podcast. Coming up on the

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Speaker 2: podcast today talking about the Rolling Stones, trading cards coming

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Speaker 2: no Bubblegum.

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Speaker 1: Though not longer. My birthday. We took calls on the

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Speaker 1: weird stuff You've seen in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 2: Wa Muso Wayne Green and his documentary Green The Fight

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Speaker 2: for Rock and Roll.

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Speaker 1: He joins us and ben O'shet reviews the new Blake

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Speaker 1: Lively movie. It ends with us the Sure Report on

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Speaker 1: ninety six AIRVM.

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Speaker 2: Almost two and a half years after his death while

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Speaker 2: on touring Columbia, Foo Fighter's drama Taylor Hawkins cause of

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Speaker 2: death has been confirmed.

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Speaker 3: It has taken a while due.

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Speaker 2: To the Attorney General of Columbia having to wait on

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Speaker 2: toxicology report results. Officially, Taylor Hawkins died from a cardiovascular collapse.

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Speaker 2: They've also ruled his heart was a factor. We're already

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Speaker 2: discovered that his heart was twice the size of what's

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Speaker 2: considered normal. Make of that, what's your world? And sadly,

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Speaker 2: the fact that he had ten different substances in his

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Speaker 2: system the day he died. Surely wouldn't have helped. What

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Speaker 2: a surprise that Taylor Hawkins had a huge.

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Speaker 1: Heart, massive heart man, and what a talent.

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Speaker 2: Jack Black has addressed the future of Tenacious D one

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Speaker 2: month after bandmate Kyle Gas made a controversial remark about

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Speaker 2: the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, but all happened here

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Speaker 2: in Australia. They were on stage in Sydney when Gas

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Speaker 2: said his birthday wish was don't miss next time, causing

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Speaker 2: swift backlash. Jack immediately canceled the rest of the tour

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Speaker 2: and they went home, clearly on the outs with each other. Now,

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Speaker 2: Jack says he and Gas are still friends and we'll

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Speaker 2: be back when it feels right.

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Speaker 3: He said, we need to take a break, but we

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Speaker 3: will be back. Journeys.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Cain is suing bandmatee Neil Seon again again just

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Speaker 2: days into their tour with def Leppard, this time the tour,

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Speaker 2: arguing over business decisions made by Sean.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure this is the same argument.

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Speaker 2: They each owned fifty percent of Journey's Freedom twenty twenty company,

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Speaker 2: but Cain wants a third party involved to oversee sean spending.

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Speaker 2: Despite the lawsuit, they're continuing the tour it's not awkward

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 1: There are different green rooms.

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Speaker 3: I take you a complete unknown.

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Speaker 2: The upcoming Bob Dylan biopic starring Timothy Chlamy as Dylan

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Speaker 2: just got a release date. It's coming out on Christmas

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Speaker 2: Day and Clersey, have I got.

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Speaker 3: Some news for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for it.

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Speaker 2: The Rolling Stones have teamed up with collectible card company

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Speaker 2: Panini America to release a set of trading cards. No

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Speaker 2: bubblegum though, out of that stinky flat bubblegum, just the

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Speaker 2: trading cars. The cards cover the band's more than sixty years,

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Speaker 2: highlighting their music and record setting tours with like Conic

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Speaker 2: Stones artwork. The especially the Special Prism Collection, is a

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Speaker 2: one hundred card based set to get you going. Okay,

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Speaker 2: You'll find them at Paniniamerica dot net.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, there was ten months and three weeks to

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Speaker 1: my birthday.

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Speaker 2: Could imagine the playground. I've got a giant lips and

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Speaker 2: tongue to start me up. I've got a six lips

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Speaker 2: and tons.

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Speaker 3: What have you got?

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Speaker 1: I've got one of mixed girlfriends. She's nineteen. I love that.

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Speaker 3: It's a set of Itselfeah.

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Speaker 1: And there's a big set and you want to play

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Speaker 1: fifty two pick up and there's no bubblegum because if.

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Speaker 3: You do pick up of his girlfriends.

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Speaker 1: Exactly well he picked them all up. And if you're

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Speaker 1: eighty two or any one like me, you don't want

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Speaker 3: Gum with dangerous one pick up. Now, any one pack's impressive.

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Speaker 1: That's not bad, is it? Now? I have mentioned this

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Speaker 1: to you, Lise, that as I left work this morning,

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Speaker 1: I saw a mystery light. I'm thinking, it's not a

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Speaker 1: And whether it was roller skates or blades. There was

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Speaker 1: We should play bialleero now. But I just went I

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Speaker 1: And I was thinking there must be some other people

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Speaker 2: Oh in the middle of it ceases to amaze me,

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Speaker 2: I think I often see things, particularly around Wellington Street.

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Speaker 2: And the other day there was a gentleman doing aerobics

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Speaker 3: Jeez, the things, yes, sir, things you things, Yes, see things.

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Speaker 1: You hear people are exercising. Oh yeah, no, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean we're getting used to seeing people rifle through bins

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Speaker 3: That's nothing any well, that's being industrious.

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Speaker 1: I think that's great daily week, that's admirable.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, in the middle of Bennett Street, not even

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you see regular was for thirteen, for thirteen, yeah, mine.

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Speaker 1: Was for seventeen. Actually, yeah, it is kipe. Is that

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Speaker 1: the dude on the Canning Highway was completely naked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a good one. I've yet to see

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Speaker 1: Yeah. He was wearing a scarf and even funny things

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Speaker 3: Something around your neck or a hat and you're naked.

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Speaker 1: Harder to work out what was going on. I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: phones and the text line the things you've seen that

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Speaker 2: Drivers running red lights? Says Mark and Jandercott. We do

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Speaker 2: see a fair bit of that. David from Gosnell said

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Speaker 2: saw a woman dressed in pj's riding a pushbike down

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Speaker 2: Carrington Road in Frio at four point thirty am with

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Speaker 2: Claire and Willerton saw a naked girl on Barrick Street

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Speaker 2: at five in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, is that when people start going Actually I

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Speaker 1: think I. I came into work and said where it was?

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Speaker 1: Someone said in the office said where was that? Again?

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Speaker 3: What's tree?

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Speaker 4: Was it?

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Speaker 1: Rolling Stone? Can everyone else?

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Speaker 5: Good morning? Hello?

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Speaker 1: What did you do?

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Speaker 6: Else?

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Speaker 5: Interesting? Rolling Stone with all the trees, it's always interesting.

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Speaker 5: So one night we heard a lot of noise outside

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Speaker 5: possums going at each other to get to a female

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Speaker 5: were definitely not stirred by their heads about about by

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Speaker 1: What an interesting went on?

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Speaker 2: Yes, so noisy in Melbourne that we had boots on

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Speaker 2: Doc Martin's well reallyous.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we had been in the roof, but we made

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Speaker 1: Yeah, noisy scrapping for the woman's heart.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, thank you nature. I know someone who sent us

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Speaker 2: a text but you didn't leave name was. But this

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Speaker 3: Right out in front of us and ran down the street.

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Speaker 1: Sure it wasn't gobbled dog bigger than that.

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Speaker 3: That's funny. That's a cheap way home from a fatcy dress.

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Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, well so it might just be for thrills.

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Speaker 1: Owen Zen, how you are.

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Speaker 6: Seen a number of quite a number of years ago,

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Speaker 6: and could hear the sound of horses hoods, and I thought,

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Speaker 6: I don't know whether you guys know this the ABC

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Speaker 6: hear this sound like horseshoes, which is the ship.

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Speaker 7: I was so impressed.

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Speaker 4: I work my wife up to have a look.

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Speaker 6: We just assume the electricity in the air from the

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Speaker 6: thunderstorm that was making these and it was only the

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Speaker 6: joiners and the guy wires that were flashing. It was,

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Speaker 6: as I said to the lady earlier, even now talking

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's freaky.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was very freaky.

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Speaker 6: And I never bothered to ask what it was.

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Speaker 4: Or anything like that, and never heard about it. But

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Speaker 4: that was just our assumption because it was a thunderstorm.

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Speaker 1: Ghost rider in the night, yes, like the ghost of

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Speaker 1: Hammersley pasted. Yeah, it's especially when you don't have an

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Speaker 2: And storms make everything, of course weirder. We are talking

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Speaker 2: of the night. Thanks Alfhia Hillaries. We'll keep that one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Elfie did make us laugh, entertained the whole

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Speaker 7: They're driving along.

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Speaker 7: People going through bins taking the ten cent refundibles out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, don't bother going through your mind.

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Speaker 3: It's only wine bottles and they don't take.

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Speaker 3: More more Lisa more podcasts Soon.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful. Yeah, that's so very, very promising.

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Speaker 2: Wayne Green is a rock singer who's teated on the

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Wayne.

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Speaker 4: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we very well.

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Speaker 3: So tell us about the documentary The Foot for Rock

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Speaker 3: and Roll.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to know what it's aboad or.

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Speaker 2: Tell us how it came about making it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got to call out of the Blue from

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Speaker 1: His name was Yes and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he said he had a really good friend

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they're great people there, Dog and the guy

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we've just done a great series on our

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Speaker 4: Let's work now, I reckon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah great?

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Speaker 3: Is it true?

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Speaker 1: You guys did over three hundred gigs One Green and

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Speaker 1: Oh gotcha? Yeah you didn't, you know, like, let write

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Speaker 4: No? No, no, we actually we behaved ourselves really well.

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Speaker 4: I've done that and yeah, I've never been at a

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Speaker 1: You haven't been that, Joe Walsh mote.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, yea only by accident.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I don't value fine Yeah enough the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I want to talk about the music business

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Speaker 4: A lot more. Yeah, and I haven't done gardening all

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Speaker 1: But it's a problem you've got. You've got people who've

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Speaker 4: It really is. There's a I don't know who, there's

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's the Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of cases though,

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Speaker 2: The blur for the the blur for the doco talks about,

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Speaker 2: you know, being on the brink of fame three times,

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Speaker 2: and all of that will be explained in the documentary.

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Speaker 2: But I'm curious about the nineties when you went to Nashville.

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Speaker 2: What is it true that in Nashville, absolutely everybody you're

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Speaker 2: come into contact with, what's to play your song, here's

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Speaker 2: your coffee, and I've got something to play for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. They the blood on petrol for serving that, almost

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Speaker 4: every every person. And I really loved Australians at the time,

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Speaker 4: which was great for mate.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when they came out by accident again, I was

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Speaker 4: sick of music, so I went busting in King's Cross

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Speaker 4: with a motormite all right, Yeah, And I learned to

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Speaker 4: play guitars and I did a few little recordings and

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Speaker 4: that over there and send it over here, and my

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Speaker 4: brother who managed the frames, showed the same one. It's

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Speaker 4: a long story, but anyway, own the dufinancial over the

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Speaker 4: movie again.

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Speaker 1: How incredible. Yeah, And like all movies, sometimes the funding

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Speaker 1: issue gets in the way and things can fall out.

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Speaker 4: That's what happened. Yeah, that's what happens to a year exactly. Mate. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I wish I'm shortening my answers.

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Speaker 2: For where people might be able to find out a

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Speaker 2: bit more. Actually, as you're doing a Q and A,

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Speaker 2: I believe and a special performance at the what are

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Speaker 2: the screenings at Luna this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Brilliant?

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Speaker 2: Both both Okay, Friday and Saturday special screenings of Green

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Speaker 2: the Fight for Rock and Roll at Luna.

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Speaker 3: Chance to have a chat there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, the Q and A with Luke Luke the

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Speaker 4: director as well. Okay, and I get to play. Actually,

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Speaker 4: the Q and A is being run by the lead,

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Speaker 4: says my partner. This great This time I asked her

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Speaker 4: because Bob Gordon had to drop out, right, so she

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Speaker 4: might get a bid date from me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll be right, mate. That's what you do, go

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Speaker 1: to answers you can allow out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll do that. I'll do that. It's more

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Speaker 4: than anyway.

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Speaker 1: Really look forward to seeing your mate, Dan. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: the music, Ny over the years.

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you you guys. Thanks Wayne, keep up with

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Speaker 4: good work.

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Speaker 2: The Fight for Rock and Roll is on a Luna

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Speaker 2: this Friday and Saturday with a special performance and a

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Speaker 2: Q and A Wayne.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, Thanks, say More.

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Speaker 3: Clezy More, Lisa More Podcasts soon. Great to flick with

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Speaker 3: ben o'she Hello, good morning you guys.

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Speaker 8: I am great here to talk about a movie that, look,

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Speaker 8: it's going to be something on everybody's lips at the moment.

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Speaker 8: It ends with us the new Blake Lively movie. Now

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Speaker 8: it's based on like it's really a classic kind of

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Speaker 8: airport novel, which sounds like sounds like a criticism because

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Speaker 8: it is by Colleen Hoover. It's a New York Times bestseller.

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Speaker 8: Least you've read it.

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Speaker 3: I've read it. I didn't love it, but it's.

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Speaker 5: Not my.

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Speaker 3: Tea.

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Speaker 1: Welew it in by best selling.

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Speaker 2: I was, I was helut it in by the words

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Speaker 2: New York Times and best seller.

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Speaker 8: It does feel like these days they slapped it on

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Speaker 8: just about every book. Yeah, you know, long is the

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Speaker 8: list anyway, So it's in the same category as you know,

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Speaker 8: You're You're Gone Girls, Your girl on the Train, where

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Speaker 8: the craw Dads sing like I loved all those Yeah,

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Speaker 8: those books I would say are better. This is more

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Speaker 8: of like a romance, like a romance novel. Like it's

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Speaker 8: maybe a slightly elevated Mills and Boone kind of thing. Anyway,

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Speaker 8: so they've turned it into a movie now starring Blake Lively.

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Speaker 8: It's a sort of book where you know, her character

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Speaker 8: is called Lily Blossom Bloom and wait for it, she

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Speaker 8: owns a Floris's shot and the blokes, and the blokes

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Speaker 8: have names like in probable names like Ryle Kink and

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Speaker 8: Atlas Courage and as of course there's a sort of

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Speaker 8: a love triangle going on. But at its core it's

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Speaker 8: really an examination of domestic violence, which is a very

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Speaker 8: weighty topic. And so you know, you could make the

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Speaker 8: argument that is that the sort of theme that's best

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Speaker 8: explored by a glossy romance.

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Speaker 3: Probably not.

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Speaker 8: It probably romanticizes something that's very serious and in real

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Speaker 8: life is ugly and terrifying and grim and hopeless and not,

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Speaker 8: you know, the sort of thing where you make a

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Speaker 8: movie and every shot is this beautiful shot of Boston

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Speaker 8: in autumn with the leaves changing color and the sun

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Speaker 8: setting and everything looks amazing, and so it's been directed

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Speaker 8: by Justin Baldoni, who people might remember from the TV

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Speaker 8: show Jane the Virgin. He's also he also plays Ryle

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Speaker 8: kink Hate, this charming neurosurgeon that Blake Lively's character meets.

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Speaker 3: Because of course he's a neurosearcher.

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Speaker 1: He's a neurosearcher.

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Speaker 8: And then they sort of strike up at romance, and

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Speaker 8: all the way through she has these flashbacks to her

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Speaker 8: first love, Atlas, who was a kid who was a

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Speaker 8: homeless boy who lived in this abandoned the sky across

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Speaker 8: the road from her childhood home, and they sort of,

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Speaker 8: you know, sort of fall in love and all the

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Speaker 8: rest of it. And then years later she bumps into

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Speaker 8: him because he owns a restaurant in Boston. So, you know,

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Speaker 8: as her relationship with the doctor unfolds, there are may

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Speaker 8: be some moments where there are these incidents around the house,

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Speaker 8: like he burns a for tata in the oven and

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Speaker 8: he reaches into grab out the pan, burns his hand

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Speaker 8: and he sort of pulls his hand back and gives

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Speaker 8: her a whack in the face seemingly accidentally. When they

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Speaker 8: go into Atlas's restaurant, he sees that she's got a

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Speaker 8: bit of a shiner and is like, oh, hang on

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Speaker 8: a minute, is it maybe more to this story? Was

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Speaker 8: it an accident? He gets very protective of her, the

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Speaker 8: doctor finds out, gets a bit jealous about this Atlas guy,

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Speaker 8: and so it unfolds from there and eventually you kind

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Speaker 8: of have to decide whether these incidents are just harmless

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Speaker 8: accidents or whether Ryle Kincaid is actually an abuser, and

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Speaker 8: then she has to make a call on whether she

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Speaker 8: stays with him or not. So there's some good stuff

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Speaker 8: to examine in a film like this, but it just

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Speaker 8: doesn't do it. And the book spends a lot more time,

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Speaker 8: I guess, focused on the abuse and what Lily, the

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Speaker 8: character of Lily has to go through and as a

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Speaker 8: survivor of this type of stuff and eventually getting to

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Speaker 8: the point where she leaves him. The film doesn't really

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Speaker 8: address it at all.

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Speaker 3: It's because she's seen her parents go through.

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Speaker 8: She's seen her parents, her mum was a victim of

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Speaker 8: her father's abuse in her childhood, and so there's this

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Speaker 8: cycle of abuse and the whole it's end with us.

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Speaker 8: It's a sort of film where there's a title drop,

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Speaker 8: you know, the most egregious title drop where where Blake

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Speaker 8: Lively is like it ends with us and it's one

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Speaker 8: of the last things. It's one of the last things

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Speaker 8: the film leaves you with, and you just go, oh

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Speaker 8: my gosh, this is just so cheesy. And you know, like,

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Speaker 8: over the years, there's been some incredible movies about this topic,

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Speaker 8: you know, like going all the way back to Sleeping,

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Speaker 8: Sleeping with the Enemy with Julia Roberts once We're Warriors,

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Speaker 8: even a film like Tanya with Margot Robbie where she

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Speaker 8: you know, she played Tanya Harding, the ice skater that

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Speaker 8: tackles domestic abuse in a way that is much more

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Speaker 8: gritty and realistic.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, it's you can't turn it into a Roman, can't.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, just really can't.

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Speaker 3: The Neurosurgeon.

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Speaker 8: Yes, all the performances are terrible, except for Blake Lively.

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Speaker 8: She's fantastic. And look, if you read the book, you

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Speaker 8: go along and watch it, you probably enjoy it. There's

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Speaker 8: a weird Ellen DeGeneres in the book. She's kind of

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Speaker 8: like the character writes a journal to Ellen de Generes

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Speaker 8: and the Ellen DeGeneres keeps swimming from finding Nemo is

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Speaker 8: a line that keeps repeated through the book. Thankfully that's

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Speaker 8: not in the film, So there's there's a bit that's

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Speaker 8: been cut out. Some of it benefits the film, but

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Speaker 8: a lot of it actually doesn't. It makes all the

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Speaker 8: characters really superficial.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that you because I always thought it just

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Speaker 2: handled the topic weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does sound like a strange way of yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: touching on that.

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Speaker 8: So if you're looking for anything that really change your

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Speaker 8: understanding of what it's like to be a survivor in

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Speaker 8: these horrible situations, this is not it.

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Speaker 1: Stay away from it.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of like a romantic fantasy that really downplays

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Speaker 8: the seriousness.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so what are you giving it?

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Speaker 4: Two?

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Speaker 8: Two stars? And both for both for both for Blake Lively,

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Speaker 8: who's fantastic. If you know, yeah, give it a miss.

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Speaker 8: Maybe don't bother with the sequel. It starts with oh,

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Speaker 8: you don't even get I pray that that never happens.

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Speaker 1: But as you touched on Ben before, we went to

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Speaker 1: where if people go and she gets bums on seats,

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Speaker 1: then she and husband Ryan.

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Speaker 8: They both he's got Deadpool at the movies, She's got

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Speaker 8: this could be it could be the new Abenheimer.

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Speaker 2: I think to be Babenheimer, one of the movies needs

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Speaker 2: to be Oppenheimer.

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Speaker 3: Or on that caliber.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, Crazy and Lisa ninety six, a m