WEBVTT - Lucinda 'Froomes' Price and Psycho 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:03.040 Gid A, Peter Helly here, Welcome to you Ain't Seen 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.600 Nothing Yet the Movie Podcast. We're our chat to a 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:09.280 movie lover about a classic or beloved movie they haven't 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:13.319 quite got around to watching until now. And today's guest 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:20.920 broadcaster comedian online personality writer Liscinda Rooms Price. 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:26.599 All below. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:38.600 I want to stay you with you, hey, little jobble, 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.440 my hat snake shucked my hail. 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:53.000 It couldn't be happening, right, So you ain't seen nothing new. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.200 Today's a special show because I get to hang out 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:06.520 with somebody who I've. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.800 Actually never met before. Licinda Froome's Price is the self 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:16.440 appointed CEO of Frooms World. I'm intrigued by Frooms I 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.080 have to say. I came across her a few years ago. 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.600 A friended pointed out that she'd posted a picture of 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.160 me from my row of live days. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:26.240 I checked it out. 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.119 In the back of my brain, I thought she's probably 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.160 taken the piss somewhere. This is probably you know, it's fine, 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.840 And I checked it out and it wasn't. And what 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.760 I've learned since then is that Froomes is kind of 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:44.080 loves to celebrate Australian nostalgia. She's a really positive person. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:49.560 She is joyful, joyous, she's bloody hilarious, and she's just 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:54.480 she's like an entrepreneur who has decided to invest in herself. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:58.720 She has branded herself the whole Frooms World thing is remarkable. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.680 She has a legion of fan who love her. She 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.960 does a radio show on the Caden Network called Flex 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.400 and Frooms. You can listen daily for the three pm 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.920 to five pm. It's also in podcast form. She has 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:15.239 a substack Frooms World which has over eleven thousand subscribers. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:16.640 She's performing live. 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.840 She performed at the Melbourne and Sydney Comedy Festivals this 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:24.200 year in the show called Besties, alongside Lewis Hansen. She 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.640 started The Pedestrian as a writer and the producer and 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.959 the presenter for a few years. And like I said, 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.800 she just has backed herself in and I find it 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:36.680 kind of inspiring, to be honest. 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:38.880 You know, we're very different ages. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:43.600 I think she's later twenties and she has recognized the space. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.240 She worked out that you don't have to wait for 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.120 a TV network or a radio network to give you 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:54.959 a call. You can just create and build your own thing. 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.919 And that's exactly what she has done and is doing. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:03.720 She's run thesehilarious campaigns. She read one as You Missed It, 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.440 where she basically there was billboards involved, where she was 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.400 basically putting out the word that she wanted to have 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.000 sex with Shane warn This is obviously before he passed, 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.360 and it was hilarious but also intriguing. It was like, 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.560 is this gonna is this gonna play out? What's gonna 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.840 happen here? And one he did engage with it for 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.800 a bit. She performed the song about it with g 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:30.000 Flip and Flume, which is basically a call out. She 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:36.120 embraces Australia nostalgia, pop culture, nostalgia, Shrek, Serena, Tuna, like, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.280 there's all kinds of things and it's always entertaining, it's 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.440 always positive. I think she's a really fun person to follow. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.920 I really encourage you to do that. Like I said, 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.920 she's smart, she's positive, she's bloody, hilarious, and I'm stoked 0:03:49.960 --> 0:04:00.120 to be hanging out with her today. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.160 My name is Friends, and my three favorite films are 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:13.240 number one Austin Powers. Actually my name is Austin Powers. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.960 It says your name danger Powers. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.960 No no no no no. Danger is my middle name. 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:25.279 Mean girl, that is so fetch, Gretchen, stop trying to 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:29.120 make Fetch happen. It's not going to happen. And everything 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:33.600 everywhere all at once. Rock acony? What rock acony? 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.800 You know, the one with the chef and he makes 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.200 bad food point and. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.600 Then this is raccoon, sit on his head, control him, 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.200 and then he cooks good food. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.680 Do you mean? But up until this week, I've never 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:48.480 seen Psycho. 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:05.160 Considered the mother of modern horror films, in nineteen sixty, 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.440 Alfred Hitchcock made it quite clear that adult men who 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.599 lived with their mothers are well a bit weird. Jamie 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:15.279 Lee Curtis's mum, Janet Lee is Marion Crane, a woman 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.039 we find in the hotel room having a rendezvous with 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.680 a ripped and shirtless divorcee Sam John Gavin, who is 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.240 suffering a little bit financially. When an opportunity presents itself 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.479 to Marry to take forty thousand dollar cash and skip town, 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:32.440 she takes it, eventually arriving at the completely vacant Bates 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:36.680 Motel run by Norman Gates. Anthony Perkins, a seemingly friendly 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.919 enough man with a passion for at taxidermy who lives with 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.840 his overbearing mother. Yes, in hindsight, there were some red flags. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.520 Based on the book by Robert Bloke from a screenplay 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.720 by Joseph Stefano, nominated for four Oscars, it went home 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.520 empty handed, but it has lived in the pop cultural 0:05:54.520 --> 0:06:01.000 psyche like very few films have rooms. Can you, without 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:09.400 writing it down, finish this maths equation forty thousand minus 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:10.680 seven hundred. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.159 Thirty nine thousand and three hundred. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.960 Well done? Well done? Was that right? That is absolutely right? 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:23.240 And I don't know why Marian couldn't do that sum 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.920 in her own head. I'm not sure why she had 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.800 to write that down and then flush it down the toilet. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.200 We'll get to that later, but from the get go, 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:33.600 thank you so much for joining us. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.240 Thanks you, Peter Hellier. It's a pleasure to be here 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:37.039 and to finally meet. 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.080 We have kind of over the a couple of years. Now. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.720 Just follow each other on Instagram and message each other occasionally. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:49.800 Basically started by a publicist told me a channel tention, 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.160 do you follow frums on Instagram? 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:53.800 This is a few years ago now. 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.000 I said no, no, I don't, and she sent me 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.560 these you had sent you posted something about me wearing 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.240 a beret whilst interview in the Backstreet Boys. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.080 You're wearing a backwards cagle short cap. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.480 I went through a little stage where I wore the 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.600 Can goal cap and was feeling kind of fine about 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.520 it at the time, and I think I may mentioned 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.480 this on this podcast before, and it wasn't until we 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.720 had Chris Rock on the show, who also wore the 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:28.160 Can goal cap, and our guest producer Paid McGinley introduced 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.960 me to Chris when they promoting Madagascar with Ben Stiller, 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.480 and she said, oh, Pete wears the Can goal cap 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.920 as well. I wasn't wearing it in this moment and 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.960 he just looked at me up and down and I've 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:44.520 never worn that cap again. 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.560 He said. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.400 He really was like, no, I wouldn't be surprised if 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.640 maybe he hasn't worn the Can goal cap again since 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.760 since that moment, I think I ruined it for him, 0:07:58.240 --> 0:07:59.440 and it was ruined for me. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:00.760 I did interview Chris. 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:02.840 I've interviewed a couple of times, and the last time 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.160 I'm interviewed him for that kind of sore, kind of horror. 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:07.920 Film thing he did. I mentioned it to him. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.640 I said, I this happened, and I'm I'm not trying 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.120 to shame you or anything, but I just want you 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:14.720 to know I don't wear the cano caps anymore. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.680 And he was. He promised me he wasn't judging me, 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.720 but he was judging me. Yeah, he was judging me. 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.320 I went through a face as well. I think that's 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.000 how I sound. I don't even I can't even remember 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.040 how I found the photo of you, but I went 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.559 through a period. I was working at Pedestrian, like a 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.560 colored news site in in Gooda Commons, and I'd be 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.199 sitting opposite this guy and I started wearing the little 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.000 cap backwards, like I don't know what came home with 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.680 me to even consider. I don't even know where I 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.520 got it. And he just started calling me Samuel L. Jackson. 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:51.800 I can't be doing this. 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.280 I feel Samuel Jackson does own that look now, like 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.920 that's who I think of more so than Chris Roe. 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.840 I think of Samuel Jackson. He's the guy who basically 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:00.880 own is that look. I think. 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:06.120 And you know, a white at twenty five year old 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.439 Australian chubby man should not have been wearing a Cago 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:10.080 cap backwards. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.240 I admit that, and I. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.080 Moved on, you know, And it's so it's so weird 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.199 and like in the way it's I find it really funny, 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:21.960 but it's also if I was a deep, a little 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.680 bit deep, a little bit deeper. 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.200 I've made so few fashion choices, like like. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.040 I'm like, I didn't I didn't go I'm gonna wear 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.920 hoodies and baseball caps, you know, as a fashion choice. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.440 It's just kind of they just found me, and I 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.040 just kind of like, you know, I've never been brave. 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.640 It's the only fashion choice I think I've ever made. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:45.160 But it was on TV for like a year and. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:51.200 Chris Rock kind of ended it for me, which had well, 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.200 he did a service I think for all of us. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.960 Maybe yeah, maybe, But I'm like, it is hard to 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.200 go out of your comfort zone. I always say wear 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.160 a hat to try and learn a few and kind 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.360 of like push yourself to be more confident because people 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.600 always comment on your hair on your hat. So yeah, 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:07.800 I think you got to take a risk, and you 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:08.400 took a risk. 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.640 I took a risk. I thought I've thought of, you know, 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:15.080 people have themed parties. Often thought of having a theme party, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.240 which is like where something you would never usually wear 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.760 and that could be anything that could be It could 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.719 even be a hat some people where it could be 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.360 as simple as a hat, or it could be you know, 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.880 some kind of really fuck off you know design feathery 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:34.240 feathery thing, you know, or pant, golden pants or something. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.480 I think it'd be a fun night, I think so. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.000 Definitely a little hot short what they. 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.800 Call little Kyle spitting around hot pants chat. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:50.480 That's it, sure, I mean, yeah, yeah, hey, Psycho, why 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:54.040 hadn't you seen this one? 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:55.920 I mean, this is made in nineteen sixty. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.040 There's obviously the remake which Gus van sand did with 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.880 Vince Vaughn, the shot for shot remake. But this is like, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.679 this is a major film, Like this is this is 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.679 really a big one. It kind of dawned on me 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.319 when I was watching it how big this film is. 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.640 And this is a real major one, And it doesn't 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.800 surprise me that some people haven't seen it. But why 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:17.880 hadn't you seen it? 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:18.200 Well? 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.120 I didn't even know there was a remake. There's a 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:21.080 Vinsfawn remake. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:25.240 Yeah, in the nineties is very kind of earliest Vinceful. 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.719 It might have been post Swingers. I think it was 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.320 post Swingers. Yeah, Gus van Sant did basically a shot 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.319 for shot remake, which I've never seen actually watching this 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.800 maybe thing I should just go check it out. But 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.880 and also there's there's two sequels which I think both 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.959 have Anthony Perkins in a Psycho two and Psycho three. Yeah, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.640 I mean this is a film that exists in the zeitgey, 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.199 so you must have known what were the things you 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.520 knew about this film. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:53.439 Like going in? 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.160 Yes, so I was obviously tasked with finding a movie 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.959 for this podcast, And there's so much stuff that I've 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.679 never seen because I'm the kind of person that will 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.679 watch and when we get into my favorite films, you'll 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:08.360 see two of them I've watched probably more than anything 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:12.640 else in the world ever. But like I haven't even 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.959 watched Star Wars, for example, Like the gaps in my 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:20.719 knowledge are so wide preaching. But obviously I knew the 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:53.480 shower scene in Psycho, so that kind of drew me in, 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.240 and I guess I just googled, like what are the 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.880 best fells of all time? And that came up. But yeah, 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.040 I'd never had an opportunity to watch it until an 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:01.520 hour And. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.440 I think this is actually the surprisingly. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.839 We've done over near one hundred and twenty episodes of 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.560 this and this is the first Hitchcock film we've done, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.800 so I was actually very excited. Yeah, we haven't done 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:15.360 Rear Window or north By Northwest or The Birds, and 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.120 I think this is I'm glad this is the first 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.200 one we're doing. This is you know, I think when 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:23.520 people think hitch they think Psycho. So yes, I'm very 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.800 interested to get into it with you. Let's talk about 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:26.600 your three favorite films. 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:27.920 If I was the guest. 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:29.559 And I'm not sure if this is already out there 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.240 that maybe you speak about it a lot and it's 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.040 just kind of in my head, but I'm not surprised 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:38.480 me and Girls is there. It is such a great film. 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.199 We covered it on this podcast with Sam Mack and 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.000 I was doing radio in Sydney at the time. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.760 I got to interview Tina Fey when it came out, 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:48.680 and I was just so. 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.400 Like surprise because I thought, like, I'm seeing this Lindsay 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.439 Loewen film, Okay, we'll see what it's low. 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.480 And it's just so smart and so funny. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.680 Btally, it's just I just think it's the perfect field. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:04.880 So obviously it came out in two thousand and four, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.760 so I was in year four, so I guess so you. 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:10.280 Didn't interview team the Fair when I came. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:14.439 Out, nor sorry approbly one Persson could do that. 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:19.680 The Grade fours weren't given the opportunity, which is which 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:20.160 is a shame. 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.800 So I I think about it the Locks. I still 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.000 watch it probably like two times a year, i'd say, 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.520 And when it came out, I don't think the humor. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.880 I don't think I really understood the humor beyond kind 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.040 of like the slapstick elements of it. Like I didn't 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.880 realize that the mean girls weren't cool or kind of 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:39.640 it was the joke. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:39.960 Was on them. 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:41.600 I was just like, I want to be a mean girl, 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.920 like I want to be Ridina George. I love their 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:48.640 fashion and the whole high school experience, so kind of 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.240 learning later that it was had to reflect and be like, 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.920 oh no, they're actually mean, Like you don't even want 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.560 to be like Caddy Heron, you kind of want to 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.560 be like the ard freaks. But yeah, I feel like 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.480 every time I watch it, it's got that mix of 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.320 nostalgia as well as it just yeah, it stands up 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.600 like it's funny and it's smart. Yeah, and I love 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:08.320 the actors in it. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.480 It's everyone's so good. It's it's funny watching it now. 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:13.120 If you're get a chance to watch it recently, if 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.160 you haven't seen it, go see it. It's it's so good. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.040 But to see Reggie McAdams play like, you know, not 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.080 kind of a sweet Regie mcadam's role, like she's kind 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.640 of the she's that the queen, mean girl is it's 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:26.080 kind of weird. 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:26.280 Now. 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.120 It's so weird, isn't it Because you then watch her 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.960 in the Notebook and you like see her in interviews 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.520 and yeah, every other character that she plays, it's like 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:35.960 you can't reconcile the two. 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:40.880 Yeah, yeah, like she I remember seeing her in Wedding Crashes. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.000 I think was the one that I really noticed her 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.520 and I thought, oh, she is, like I can understand 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.120 why she's cast in that role because she is like 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.120 every guy, every straight guy would go, well, that's who 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:54.480 I want to be my girlfriend. 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:56.320 It's like that that girl. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.720 And then and she's kind of played a lot of 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.960 those roles, and she's some diversity in her roles as 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:07.680 far as she would strive for more interesting stuff, you know, 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.280 later on in her career, but she certainly had that 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.120 kind of she was the golden girl. For you know, 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:16.000 a long time notebook and wedding crashes and so yeah, 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:19.520 to see her and it's blonde with the blonde eyebrows 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:23.520 as well. Is is really it's God to take you 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:27.880 back a little bit. Amy Poehler is so so funny. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:28.680 Is the cool mum? 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:30.960 Yes, yes, the other one. 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.000 Who makes me laugh a lot, like Tina fe is 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:37.880 so good at She's obviously a very good joke writer, 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:39.960 you know, through years of saturny in my life. But 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.160 her ability the pepper that at the right moments, those 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:50.320 assembly scenes with Tim Meadows, you know, playing I think 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:54.120 he's the principal. They're just perfect jokes at the right time. 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:58.000 They're never superfluous, you know, it's all still part of 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.880 the plot and character Bill and it's just it's so good. 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.840 It's genius. So I would watch it when we had 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.920 it on DVD, and I remember being downstairs at my parents' 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.879 house and there was this little tiny This is obviously 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:14.680 before you could be streaming and like kind of like 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.000 clicking exactly where you wanted to go in the movie. 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:22.080 And there's this scene when Caddie goes to the Halloween 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.760 party and she's dress up as the kind of like 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:30.240 Vampire Bride and she walks outs this guy sitting on 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.240 a sense and he sees her and he goes and 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:38.080 like so backwards, Like it's the most stupid slapstick thing 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.640 I've ever seen. But I just have to be really 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.400 like clear memories of just going back and like making 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.360 the CD go back and back and just actually saysical 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.600 tunes like rolling down my cheeks. It's it's like a 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:51.920 core memory of my childhood. 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.879 Well, and that doesn't that doesn't surprise me because what 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.440 I've observed of you with you the Summer's content that 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:03.159 you pulled out into the world that you are like 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:07.840 a celebrator of I think pop culture, you know, and 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.080 and and you don't seem to me to be an 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:18.320 overly cynical person. No, you you do embrace You embrace 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.120 pop culture and a bit of silliness. 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.240 I love silliness. I can't help myself. I think like, 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.680 I've got a show with Flex Mummy on cater It's 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:31.000 called Flex and Frooms, And kind of when we first 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.680 started recording, I was like, oh, I've got to be 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.080 a bit more cerebral. I've got to come with kind 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:39.280 of like social dilemmas and talk about people's behavior, and 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:40.960 now that we've been doing it for a year, I'm 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:44.000 just like, that's just not my I can't. I find 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.480 it really hard to like criticize things. I just would 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.720 prefer to find the funny things happening or kind of 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.119 like try to find a way to be entertaining as 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:57.560 opposed to to I guess I'm just trying to find 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:01.040 my own way to talk about issues or like discuss 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:02.400 serious things, if that makes sense. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.560 And I think I think it's really refreshing as people 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.080 who and I've said the gravitation towards it, you know, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.800 people like you more recently because it's like I like 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.400 people who. There's so much stuff to be down about, 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.760 and you know, there's ways of doing comedy and you know, 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.760 I've done it before where you tend to be angry 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.720 about something that happens a lot, you know, but to 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:26.199 find somebody who just is genuinely celebrating that doesn't mean 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:27.840 you can't be taking the piss and you know and 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.400 all that. But you like Brendan cow you know, he's 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.200 a friend of mine and we made a movie together, 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.280 you know, in twenty ten, and he made like he 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.320 loves his music and he made like a like little 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:42.640 at the end of it wasn't quite the wrap party 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.720 was the end of shoot party, and and he made 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:50.480 like a mixed kind of tape which is was on 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:54.440 CD at the time, and it had like bands, and 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:55.840 I kind of thought when I saw, I thought he 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:57.879 was kind of taking the piss. I thought, ah, like 0:19:58.119 --> 0:19:59.919 it had maybe it had like I'm making this up 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.600 that like Duran, Duran and Kylie and you know, but 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.920 also like Midlake and and you know, more recent bands 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:07.960 and Bonavu and stuff like that. 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.680 And I thought, are you taking the piss? 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.280 Are you kind of saying that Midlake's cool but you 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.359 know and durand and this is just a laugh at 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:16.920 that and then and he's like, no, these are like 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:20.119 genuinely brilliant songs that I love. And he's like, and 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.240 I kind of thought, yeah, like you don't need to 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.960 be cynical about, you know, everything, You can just celebrate 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.840 celebrate it, you know, find the things you'd love, and. 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.199 Yeah, celebrate it totally. 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.919 I do sometimes like to. I think people who engage 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.560 with the stuff that I've made think that I'm taking 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.520 the piece out of everything as well, which is kind 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.240 of a fun place to play, like I'll post I 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:48.720 post songs on my story and like, I quite like 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:52.440 the songs, but they're also kind of not guilty pleasures, 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:54.840 but they're like old cuts of Australian pop music in 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.879 the early two thousands, and something about them is so 0:20:58.080 --> 0:20:59.840 funny because one missing me saying, I don't know if 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:02.120 you intend to be funny every time that you post 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.639 these songs, but it just it hits. 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.560 Yeah, yeah, it's funny. The term guilty pleasures go. 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.680 I've kind of almost I've started to kind of rally 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.080 against that term in a way, and I think you 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.120 almost alluded to it yourself. It's like, no, what, don't 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.399 take guilt if it gives you pleasure, And I think 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:23.120 it's part of us growing up. You kind of go, well, 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:27.159 I it's a bit embarrassing that I you know that, I, like, 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.080 I listened to so much bon Jovi growing up. So 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:30.840 I'm gonna kind of like come to this own. I'm 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:34.200 gonna put in a little category over here because I 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:36.879 want to. I'd rather people know that I listen to 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:40.879 more of the National now than I bonjo But so 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.560 I know they can all exist in the same head, 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.639 you know, I can I can have you know, the 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:50.000 latest national album in my head and still have space 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:50.800 for living on a prayer. 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:52.680