Speaker 1: Remember that. Like, I don't know if your kids have
Speaker 1: grown out of them. The squeegees, the like they's got
Speaker 1: the mixed fruit in it, or like there's like one
Speaker 1: with like casserole and potatoes and the squeezy.
Speaker 2: Pouches like a normal pouch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a squeezy pouch you know you buy from
Speaker 1: black wools off the shelf. Yeah, do your kids have
Speaker 1: those still? Well, they used to have them.
Speaker 2: Well, the mics are grown out of it, but they're
Speaker 2: still there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they're still there, but they should have
Speaker 1: adult ones.
Speaker 2: Like if you're too fucking lazy to sit there and
Speaker 2: chew your meal.
Speaker 1: I just want to squeeze into my mouth.
Speaker 2: Probably that's what they use in all people's homes. Oh,
Speaker 2: they probably uses the baby ones.
Speaker 1: Do you reckon? I could go on a solid diet
Speaker 1: of those.
Speaker 2: Let's find out. Welcome back to two doting dads. I'm
Speaker 2: Mattie Jay and I'm as. This is a podcast that
Speaker 2: would you believe? It is all about parenting. It's the
Speaker 2: good is it bad? Let's talk about cars today.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about big gigs.
Speaker 2: I mean, already you are, You're like a dog on heat.
Speaker 2: There's not going to be any advice in this podcast,
Speaker 2: which will come as no surprise to anyone who's just
Speaker 2: joined us. What that interest sounds like? We did get
Speaker 2: a very nice review, did we accept?
Speaker 1: I don't read them?
Speaker 2: It said at the end in brackets, Ash sucks. So
Speaker 2: you guys are just a little bit crass.
Speaker 1: Oh who who?
Speaker 2: Except? Do you remember that last episode I dropped?
Speaker 1: Did they give us five stars? Shut the fuck up?
Speaker 2: I did drop the C word a number of times.
Speaker 1: You did last week? You did it in the first minute.
Speaker 2: I thought, should we edit that out?
Speaker 1: I don't worry about that.
Speaker 2: It's too late. Now. That's who we are, Like, it's
Speaker 2: just this environment. There's something about sitting opposite Ash that
Speaker 2: makes me want to swear more.
Speaker 1: And I do want to just talk about one thing
Speaker 1: really quickly, because you frequent my suburb, Yes, quite a lot.
Speaker 2: I love yourself.
Speaker 1: It's quite a fam like for those who don't know,
Speaker 1: I live in a very family friendly suburb called Warrywood
Speaker 1: or the swamp as I.
Speaker 2: Does anyone ever refer to it as family friendly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's parks everywhere. Man's here as well. But you've
Speaker 1: got this hill. You carry your kids ship up that hill?
Speaker 1: Bet you do all the time. It sucks on that
Speaker 1: it's all like flat. It's just very family friendly. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of nice pass through the.
Speaker 2: Interrupt you for one second. It's good incidental exercise. The
Speaker 2: reason I look the way I do is because of
Speaker 2: all the hills that I have to walk with the kids.
Speaker 2: Worrywood is not it's not good for your waistline.
Speaker 1: Do you call me fat? I already know that. So
Speaker 1: where was iry?
Speaker 2: You live in a family friendly it is.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of nice pass through the wetlands, the swamps,
Speaker 1: but there's parks everywhere. It's great. There's heaps of families. Okay,
Speaker 1: family friendly. There's heaps of families. However, is there a problem.
Speaker 1: There's a problem and having kids in the area, this
Speaker 1: is a big problem. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So on Sunday, does this mean you're about to move
Speaker 2: to the east. No, no, never, So it's not that severe. No.
Speaker 1: Nah, Oh, you'd be the judge, you'd be the joke.
Speaker 1: So on Sunday Sunday just gone, there was a police
Speaker 1: operation at the end of our street, near the cafe
Speaker 1: we go to all the time, and straight away I
Speaker 1: thought they've got the guy who owns a cafe because
Speaker 1: he's a bit creepy, but no, no, So I drove
Speaker 1: pasting you and you know when like something big is
Speaker 1: happening and everyone's like, all of a sudden, everyone's going
Speaker 1: to go to the end of the street. And it
Speaker 1: was like right near the shop there, so it's like
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everyone needs something from the shop,
Speaker 1: not us, because we were like we'll going out anyway.
Speaker 1: I was like, we'll just drive past. How did you
Speaker 1: do slowly? Something about that sort of shit in car accidents,
Speaker 1: you've got to drive past really slowly, a.
Speaker 2: Bit of a sticky beak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just want to like just poke your head
Speaker 1: in anyway. So at the end of this street there's
Speaker 1: two of those tactical support cars police, one like black cars,
Speaker 1: people with like cops with a covered up face, like
Speaker 1: full on ambo. There was like fifteen cop cars in there,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, not even have friend of it.
Speaker 2: Did you come out and say do you feel as
Speaker 2: need a hand? You guys need a hand? Do you
Speaker 2: need the big gun?
Speaker 1: It was funny because we've got friends who lived near
Speaker 1: that who were giving a sort of play by play, right,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's happening? They were like there's two cop cards.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's like ten cop cards. There's tactical units,
Speaker 1: all these stuff, and I'm like, not in this lovely
Speaker 1: family suburbs. Oh yeah, so and it's it's not a
Speaker 1: noisy place, like it's not like I mean, you've been there.
Speaker 2: It's not sweet, it's lovely.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have not once have I ever felt like I'm
Speaker 2: in any danger at all. Driving through warry Wood, I
Speaker 2: would leave my car unlocked.
Speaker 1: In fact, probably actually anyway, so he drums and what
Speaker 1: I just in case? Anyway, So we drive past and
Speaker 1: we're like, anyway, we have to be somewhere. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're off. But then we're texting friends, like give us
Speaker 1: an update, give us update. Apparently just it came to
Speaker 1: an abrupt end and we don't know what happened because
Speaker 1: obviously they're not going to be walking around telling people
Speaker 1: what happened anyway. So it turns out what is there
Speaker 1: is a local meth head.
Speaker 2: It's always the meth head.
Speaker 1: There's a meth head. And at the back of the
Speaker 1: shops there there's a kids park, so it's Sunday, pretty busy.
Speaker 1: I would say the meth head has decided to go
Speaker 1: to the playground wilding a samurai sword. He's gone full
Speaker 1: kung fu fighter.
Speaker 2: He's working up. God, it's quite a nice outside. I'll
Speaker 2: take the samurai sword and go for a little trot down.
Speaker 1: Just take my samurai sword out down to the kids park.
Speaker 1: There's or birthdays. There's all this shit going on in this.
Speaker 2: People like, oh, they've got entertainment.
Speaker 1: Reminded me of that time I saw the ninja in
Speaker 1: the pask. But this guy was apparently he was like
Speaker 1: no shirt, no shoes, wielding a fucking ninja sword man.
Speaker 2: If only if only you and me were recording that
Speaker 2: day and we came across.
Speaker 1: Oh, we would have been like, don't never fear to
Speaker 1: dating dad. Here we got this. God. But since then,
Speaker 1: our loveliest suburb has been renamed.
Speaker 2: What's it called.
Speaker 1: It's now called worry Hood. What it's the talk of
Speaker 1: the town.
Speaker 2: It's taken the shine off what was once a beautiful
Speaker 2: little suburb.
Speaker 1: The good thing is all the house prices and now
Speaker 1: people can buy on the all the beaches. You just
Speaker 1: have to be careful that you're going to get chased
Speaker 1: by a meth head.
Speaker 2: Nothing with a ninja, nothing ruins. A beautiful suburb, a beautiful,
Speaker 2: family friendly suburb. Quite like a meth head with a
Speaker 2: samurai saw it, and I.
Speaker 1: Wonder what was like it was his weapon of choice.
Speaker 1: I guess, do you think like in his hallways? Got
Speaker 1: like today?
Speaker 2: Not today Nicole Duster's Yeah, Gune, you know what, what
Speaker 2: a shame? What a shame? I wonder. I wonder what
Speaker 2: that will do to the METS supply in Warrywood.
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't get my hit this morning, so sorry
Speaker 1: to take this times like chip up.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I have a few things to talk about you do. Firstly,
Speaker 2: I actually want to ask you. Maybe we've spoken about this.
Speaker 2: You're not wearing your wedding ring.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she left me.
Speaker 2: It was only in that time.
Speaker 1: No, I've got the initials tatooed there. I do wear it,
Speaker 1: but as you can say, like this one at the moment,
Speaker 1: I just get a reaction from them and I kind
Speaker 1: of chop and chain.
Speaker 2: Oh one of those rings, your wedding ring. No, they're
Speaker 2: not other.
Speaker 1: No, they're just like I just bang them one on
Speaker 1: the way out the door. But I do wear it,
Speaker 1: but just like if I wear it too long, too.
Speaker 2: Much knocking for the skin. I took mine off.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah you did, and you don't have any of yours.
Speaker 2: On because I went to the gym for the first
Speaker 2: time in ages.
Speaker 1: Yes and dog and yeah you left it there?
Speaker 2: No, well I took it off here at home. Oh no,
Speaker 2: and I don't know where it is.
Speaker 1: M kids like fucking grabbing them, don't they.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's concerning. It's been lost for two days, now
Speaker 2: is Laura and she now? So now I have to
Speaker 2: make sure I find it before this episode goes to.
Speaker 1: That signet one signet looking one, lost.
Speaker 2: That one as well, and the gold ring with the diamonds.
Speaker 1: Oh you've got the diamond one? Yeah, yeah, fancy. Well
Speaker 1: I haven't got a signet ring for mine. But then
Speaker 1: I just got the initials. So it's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I do like the finger tatsu they like they're going
Speaker 1: on oral gross anyway, Now.
Speaker 2: They look great, you look great. Great we spoke about Lola.
Speaker 2: Has been quite difficult the last a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Off the back of the Maggie Island trip. The non
Speaker 2: stop screaming, which is just happened the last the murderous screen,
Speaker 2: the murder of screams. Okay, this is all off the
Speaker 2: back of the doctor on Maggie Island saying that she
Speaker 2: was we can get access to. The diagnosis on the
Speaker 2: island was that it's a little virus. She does have
Speaker 2: a sore ear, there's no pass it's not that badly infected.
Speaker 2: We don't want to give antibiotics, and we thought great, perfect,
Speaker 2: we went on our way. Since then, the screaming has
Speaker 2: been consistent now every ninety seconds. As we got out
Speaker 2: of bed the other morning and she had all of
Speaker 2: this fluid all over the pillow, and then we're kind
Speaker 2: of googling, like, what does it mean perforated ear drum?
Speaker 1: Okay, let me stop you. Okay, you complained about this.
Speaker 1: I did constantly.
Speaker 2: I didn't complain.
Speaker 1: You said there's nothing wrong with the well, look because
Speaker 1: it's okay. Like I've always said, this is a safe space.
Speaker 2: So the reason why you shit that two things why
Speaker 2: we thought it wasn't anything serious. One, the vet on
Speaker 2: Maggie Island had said that it was fine, slashed and
Speaker 2: then at nighttime the crying always happened when we said
Speaker 2: that we wouldn't give her a bottle of milk because
Speaker 2: we're trying to stamp that stuff right, out and we
Speaker 2: give her the milk, and she was fine. Okay, but
Speaker 2: now we know that she had nearest gas light left right,
Speaker 2: she was gas lighting us. So you know, Laura and
Speaker 2: I were trying to figure it out and we thought
Speaker 2: she's just having a little tantrum. Turns out it was
Speaker 2: a perforated ear drum.
Speaker 1: The poor thing's been living in pain, and you're just
Speaker 1: sitting here going and then filming her.
Speaker 2: Look that sometimes is a part of parenting.
Speaker 1: You said that filming meltdowns is normal, so that's fine.
Speaker 2: Thank you for reminding me. So yeah, so we for
Speaker 2: the record, affected ear drum. Now on the antibiotics.
Speaker 1: Okay, how's she doing now?
Speaker 2: Great, doing much better. Except not to pick on Lola.
Speaker 2: But we have credited.
Speaker 1: Monster the milk monster.
Speaker 2: No, well, it's a dummy monster. So she is obsessed
Speaker 2: with dummies, and your kids weren't.
Speaker 1: No, they never been, never been into sucking on things.
Speaker 1: That's hopefually that leads them into their future.
Speaker 2: The dummy. For us, it's the silver bullet item. We
Speaker 2: cannot go out out anywhere without having a dummy with
Speaker 2: an arm's reach. I can see you've got okay, because
Speaker 2: all of a sudden she would go to bed, we
Speaker 2: try and not give her dummy.
Speaker 1: During the please, does she get dummy rash?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Never, ha dummy rash where beer grows in She probably.
Speaker 2: So. Now she started having like a dummy in the
Speaker 2: mouth and then a dummy in the hand when she
Speaker 2: went to bed.
Speaker 1: Double dummy, double dummy.
Speaker 2: Nice. Then she wanted two dummies in each hand.
Speaker 1: Shut up.
Speaker 2: This is what she sleeps with.
Speaker 1: This is how many dummies you got there?
Speaker 2: Just one in the mouth, then one, two, three, four, five?
Speaker 1: Holy shit? What does she wear?
Speaker 2: Does she put them all like? She cuddles the dummies.
Speaker 1: She just's like they're comforters.
Speaker 2: And then she'll go this one, stop it out for
Speaker 2: the strawberry one or the little lady beetle. And then
Speaker 2: she has the blue one and the green one, and
Speaker 2: she just rotates the dummies.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And then she carries them around the house and also
Speaker 2: takes them with her. So then she starts losing them
Speaker 2: because she's got so many dummies, And I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 2: what have I done? How did we get here?
Speaker 1: How did you get there?
Speaker 2: You never had that problem?
Speaker 1: Never? They I think after six months, nah, I think
Speaker 1: also got a bit attached to one for a while
Speaker 1: and then we're like, nah, and it took like two
Speaker 1: or three days and done. You're just gonna have to
Speaker 1: fucking put it.
Speaker 2: Do you know what you do?
Speaker 1: Cut the end off each of them, because then they put
Speaker 1: in their mouth, they don't get the same satisfaction. They
Speaker 1: don't like it anymore, because then she'll get angry because
Speaker 1: it's well, you could just put dip it in dogshit
Speaker 1: and give it to.
Speaker 2: But look, and this is why we say there's no
Speaker 2: advice on this podcast.
Speaker 1: No, no, exactly right.
Speaker 2: People will be listening and they'll be going, well, that's
Speaker 2: good for Ash, it's sure grow out of it.
Speaker 1: But it's I.
Speaker 2: Feel guilty because now I put it through the pain
Speaker 2: of the last few days. So I'm now I've got
Speaker 2: the gilts.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you should. I'm letting it.
Speaker 2: Whatever she asked for, she just let it.
Speaker 1: Just do you know what you do? Put a day
Speaker 1: on it and go in like three more sleeps, we're
Speaker 1: going to take one away, and then three more and
Speaker 1: more we slowly take them away. So Oscar used to
Speaker 1: sleep with every toy he owned. I'm talking the whole
Speaker 1: cot was like wall to war with all of his toys, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how we fit in there, but he did.
Speaker 2: Okay, And did that happen overnight or was it a slow.
Speaker 1: Prog slow progression? And then eventually we were just like
Speaker 1: we thought, okay, well, what we'll do is we'll take
Speaker 1: some out and then let him keep the ones he
Speaker 1: wants to keep. And then eventually we've got it right down.
Speaker 1: Now he's just got one which is harmless, and his
Speaker 1: teddy which is Elma. So he used to sleep with
Speaker 1: all of them, and eventually that's what we had to do,
Speaker 1: just be like and just you know, you can have
Speaker 1: these for two more sleeps. But again, look that's not
Speaker 1: sound advice or from anywhere that I read. I just
Speaker 1: was like, let's just strap this thing, or you can
Speaker 1: just take them off and let a screen for two days.
Speaker 2: But I've just been through that. I'm not going back
Speaker 2: in the night, Yeah, to the screaming, oh my, And
Speaker 2: then also like I can't fucking talk to you whilst
Speaker 2: you fren't and you it's as far as the work
Speaker 2: environments go, I don't know how they behave in Warrywood warriorhood, man,
Speaker 2: but that shit won't fly here in the East.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of sleeping do your kids. Hasn't because she's
Speaker 1: still in a cot lower correct, like a big not
Speaker 1: like a little basn'tet She's still just like it's a
Speaker 1: little bit small for me. She's in a cot yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's like a she can't get out.
Speaker 2: No, you can take off one of the sides, so
Speaker 2: she could like roll out of bed. So with Marley,
Speaker 2: we in hindsight, we did it wait too early. We
Speaker 2: got over excited and we're like, oh, she's big enough
Speaker 2: now to have like a bed, and we thought we'd
Speaker 2: be cute if we take off the side wall, which
Speaker 2: is just fucked because she would wake up and instead
Speaker 2: of putting herself back to sleep, she'd be like, well,
Speaker 2: I'm up now and she's walking around.
Speaker 1: Has she ever rolled out all the time?
Speaker 2: Yeah? All the time.
Speaker 1: Oscar just like fought for the first time. Has just
Speaker 1: falling out of bed to my knowledge. So like three
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, I hear him and I was like,
Speaker 1: the fuck sake, what's going on? Like he must have
Speaker 1: had a bad dream or something, and he's like rolled
Speaker 1: off the bed. But get this, he's got a rail,
Speaker 1: so he's rolled off the bottom of the bed, so
Speaker 1: somehow we started at one end and he's slowly like
Speaker 1: jinked his way up, taking all the blankets, all the
Speaker 1: pillows with it. He's kicked out the plug for the nightlight.
Speaker 1: The nightlight's fallen off onto the ground. Now Macey's awake and.
Speaker 2: She's just like Tad at three in the morning.
Speaker 1: Taddy like pepper Pig because you watched so much Pepper
Speaker 1: pickd Y, and I'm like, back to sleep.
Speaker 2: So this is three.
Speaker 1: We're all up since three o'clock. After that, I just thought, like,
Speaker 1: how the fuck do you fall out the bottom of
Speaker 1: your bed?
Speaker 2: The movement of kids of Toddler's at nine times unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I'll go and check on Marley before I go to bed,
Speaker 2: and she'll be like in the most weird fucking all aspects.
Speaker 2: Every night it's different where she's like one corner upside down,
Speaker 2: feet resting upgainst the wall, and I'm like, runner, that
Speaker 2: makes you comfy. But we we'll be like downstairs and
Speaker 2: then we'll just hear her a thought and I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's Marley all upstairs and she's just still finger like
Speaker 2: in the mouth sleeve, sucking it on the floor.
Speaker 1: To do it outline of.
Speaker 2: It pop her back into bed.
Speaker 1: It's so funny when you like pick them up to
Speaker 1: put them back in the bed and they did that
Speaker 1: start or that. It's like when you're trying to fall
Speaker 1: asleep and you're like.
Speaker 2: The old John job. We're I think we're going to
Speaker 2: try and keep Lola in the cot for as long
Speaker 2: as we can. This eighteenth birthday, literally, Lee's can I
Speaker 2: have a normal bed back in your car? When Marley
Speaker 2: was Lola's current age, like just after two, Marley figured
Speaker 2: out how to climb up and out of the cot,
Speaker 2: so did Oscar actually, so she's like we put her
Speaker 2: down and when she'd wake up and have an up
Speaker 2: would she just go like, you know, wwe to the
Speaker 2: top rope. So there was one time in the old
Speaker 2: house where this is when Marley still had like mid
Speaker 2: day sleep, and we heard this noise coming from the
Speaker 2: bedroom and she'd only been asleep like half an hour.
Speaker 2: So you know, when they wake up and you're like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go in.
Speaker 1: There see if they resettle correct.
Speaker 2: And we heard I'm sleeping, Mom, Dad, I'm sleeping, and
Speaker 2: we're like and we're like that's pretty cute. Yes, you
Speaker 2: are sleeping, You're meant to be sleeping. So the screams
Speaker 2: went for a few minutes, and she's still going, I'm sleeping,
Speaker 2: and we're like, what is she saying? She's sleeping, Like
Speaker 2: just go back to sleep. Eventually we're like, we'll go
Speaker 2: in there and see. She said, okay. She was like
Speaker 2: perched on one side of the railing up the top.
Speaker 2: She was stuck up there, and she was saying, I'm slipping.
Speaker 2: I'm slipping, been.
Speaker 1: Like slowly slipping off the edge, raised up in.
Speaker 2: The corner, up on the highest point of the crib.
Speaker 1: That's very good, that's cute. Yeah, Oscar, I know, like
Speaker 1: you see those videos of people's baby monitors and their
Speaker 1: kids like climbing out and they just go because they're
Speaker 1: so heavy at the headsettion all the way down. Which
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but yeah, like I said, like having Oscar
Speaker 1: fall out of the bed for the first time, I
Speaker 1: was like, just I never thought of it about it
Speaker 1: really especially I was like, there's a rail, there's a
Speaker 1: safety route. Now I'm like, what am I going to
Speaker 1: put at the other end.
Speaker 2: It's just some fault.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's stopped being such an aggressive sleeper.
Speaker 2: Ash I have a video that I want to play
Speaker 2: you because over the last few weeks you have mentioned
Speaker 2: a few times that you've raised.
Speaker 1: Your boys a few times.
Speaker 2: We're dealing with your kids and they're not behaving, and
Speaker 2: I thought, you know what, I probably just needs a
Speaker 2: little bit of help, but steer in the right direction.
Speaker 2: And so I've come across this video on social media
Speaker 2: and I thought, you know what, I'll play this and
Speaker 2: I'll help the poor guy out.
Speaker 1: Thanks, Suppose, and I love how you dropped poor guy.
Speaker 3: Do you want to know why your kids don't listen
Speaker 3: until you finally yell and lose your shit? Frustrating, right,
Speaker 3: because you're going to be shocked you set that boundary. Now,
Speaker 3: I'm not pointing my finger at you, and I'm not.
Speaker 1: You just pointed your finger at me to what works.
Speaker 3: Because they're born needing to push boundaries and tell boundaries
Speaker 3: are found if you ask nicely, you give reminders, you nag,
Speaker 3: and then you finally yell and lose your shit. They
Speaker 3: learn that they don't need to listen when you ask
Speaker 3: the first time. They don't need to listen when you're nagging,
Speaker 3: or you're reminding, or you're asking nicely multiple times they
Speaker 3: listen when the boundary is set, and that boundary you
Speaker 3: set is where you.
Speaker 1: Yell or lose your shit.
Speaker 3: So if you want to stop this, sancle, we have
Speaker 3: to learn how to set concrete, clear, consistent boundaries so
Speaker 3: your kids know up front what you need them to do.
Speaker 1: And also we need to work.
Speaker 3: On your yelling to shift your child's handing.
Speaker 1: That's first of all, let me just say this is okay.
Speaker 1: I know we've touched on this a lot in this
Speaker 1: podcast in the last twenty odd episodes. Okay, we've also
Speaker 1: had other videos similar where we've been like, that's gob
Speaker 1: first thing she said, I'm not pointing the finger at
Speaker 1: you while pointing the finger at me. That's what she did.
Speaker 2: First, you're getting very defensive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that firstly, that's what she did. And then
Speaker 1: she's telling me that so if from the very beginning,
Speaker 1: when I was a very novice parent doing it for
Speaker 1: the first time, that if I had to set that
Speaker 1: boundary really low and pleasant, it would still be low
Speaker 1: and pleasant. Shut the fuck up. Okay, nothing gets done
Speaker 1: in my house, no, I see a point now, Look okay, look, yes,
Speaker 1: it depends on the kid, right, But like, this is
Speaker 1: a parenting expert. Obviously, if she's going to dish out
Speaker 1: advice like that that comprehensive, you'd want to have something
Speaker 1: to back up. And that's fair enough. But every parent
Speaker 1: that has their first child, they're a novice parent. No
Speaker 1: one's gonna know that shit, and you're not gonna have
Speaker 1: enough sleep to actually put that into practice. If you're
Speaker 1: putting that into practice, you're a fucking psychopath from day one.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have that child because no one's sitting around
Speaker 1: getting it. Imagine getting at a one year old level
Speaker 1: and being like, now, don't cry.
Speaker 2: When mommy and daddy's sleeping.
Speaker 1: Or some fucking garbage like that last light.
Speaker 2: I love how worked up you get, Yeah, because like
Speaker 2: get a bit of passion from you. Ash.
Speaker 1: I get that there's people that don't yell at their kids,
Speaker 1: and they don't want to yell at their kids, that's
Speaker 1: up to them.
Speaker 2: But grow up to murder people, yes, and burn.
Speaker 1: People's houses down. They're all arso in this. But everyone
Speaker 1: has a stern voice, Okay, whether it's a yell or
Speaker 1: a stern I don't think that the kid's going to differentiate.
Speaker 1: I just know that, yes, she's right. They want to
Speaker 1: push boundaries to the boundary. But even now when they
Speaker 1: get to the boundary and I yell, they still sometimes
Speaker 1: just laugh at me. So at what point you need
Speaker 1: to start that or is it just too late for everybody, because,
Speaker 1: like I said, people are novice.
Speaker 2: For the record, I think her video sucks. I don't
Speaker 2: agree with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I just thought I played in front of you.
Speaker 1: It was like that fucking dickhead. It was trying to
Speaker 1: tell you to stop. Close your eyes.
Speaker 2: It's the people on social media. I bet she doesn't
Speaker 2: even have kids. But I was thinking the other day, no,
Speaker 2: she's got dogs. I was thinking the other day. I
Speaker 2: was like, maybe, you know, sometimes I think maybe I
Speaker 2: shouldn't yell. Maybe from this point on words, I'm going
Speaker 2: to change the way I parent and I'm going to
Speaker 2: be a great dad who never raises his voice. And
Speaker 2: then when we do the daycare drop off and we
Speaker 2: park the car, and it's always a bit tricky because
Speaker 2: you know, I've got two kids in the back. I
Speaker 2: gotta take Marley out first. I'll try and like hold
Speaker 2: her hand as I then go around to the other
Speaker 2: side to let Lula out. Sometimes Miley's like, don't hold
Speaker 2: my hand dad piss off, and so I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: just you got to stand right next to me. I
Speaker 2: need to see you at all times. And then the
Speaker 2: other morning she just went to like run off on
Speaker 2: the road and I was like.
Speaker 1: My come back here, right, that's where you're wrong. You
Speaker 1: should come on, Marley, please come back me. Look out
Speaker 1: for the oncoming trap.
Speaker 2: Like you need to. You need to not like if.
Speaker 1: They're going to get yelled at in their life, Like
Speaker 1: you can't protect your child from If I don't yell
Speaker 1: at my kids and then they go to school and
Speaker 1: do something wrong and a teacher yells at them, they're
Speaker 1: going to be fucking shocked. Okay, it's way worse now.
Speaker 1: It's like shock therapy in like eight years time. They're
Speaker 1: like what is this loud.
Speaker 2: Night when they go to school? I just look at
Speaker 2: the teacher of principal and go, is that all you got?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You got, bitch. I've spoken to my therapist about this. Yes,
Speaker 1: I see a therapist, believe it or about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's their take on it?
Speaker 1: Well? That look, they're like very much like just from
Speaker 1: you'd need to also remember that he's for Oscar, particularly
Speaker 1: because he fucking grinds my gears right, and it's they're like, look,
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with you being stern. Yeah, But then
Speaker 1: every time we do have that conversation, I try and
Speaker 1: put into practice maybe being a little bit more patient.
Speaker 1: Probably lasts about three days before he works out there.
Speaker 2: Dad's become a pushover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dad's kind of push over. And I've got a
Speaker 1: wrangling back into line, like unbelievable. But if I've said
Speaker 1: it a million times, nothing gets done in my house
Speaker 1: unless I yell, like even like put your shoes on
Speaker 1: this morning, put your shoes on, Please, put your shoes on.
Speaker 1: Start with that, and then it slowly escalates put your
Speaker 1: shoes on, Okay, put your shoes on.
Speaker 2: And then they're like, oh, you want the shoes on,
Speaker 2: Oh you.
Speaker 1: Want the shoes on? It now? Which one?
Speaker 2: Well, why didn't you say so?
Speaker 1: Right now? I've just said to Oscar, I'm sick of
Speaker 1: yelling at y'a for not listening. That's the one that
Speaker 1: really shits me in the mom because I'm very obvious.
Speaker 1: He's got a very good vocabulary and he's very good
Speaker 1: at like articulating what he wants. So I want to
Speaker 1: articulate what I want, and it's like go upstairs and
Speaker 1: have a bath. And I've got to the point where
Speaker 1: it's like, every time you don't listen to me, Now
Speaker 1: I'm throwing something in the bin.
Speaker 2: Oh how's that working out?
Speaker 1: Oh it's great. Not he's just melt down after that
Speaker 1: because he can't comprehend that. But it's like, if I
Speaker 1: don't raise my voice, nothing gets done.
Speaker 2: We're going to debunk that video? Is that full of shit?
Speaker 1: Look, I think that this.
Speaker 2: I think it is.
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 2: I think it is.
Speaker 1: I think so. But I also think, like, don't be
Speaker 1: an expert and preach the new parents, Like preach to
Speaker 1: someone who's got kids that are like a bit older
Speaker 1: and they're used to it, and then maybe they're a
Speaker 1: bit out because I think in a few year's time,
Speaker 1: I won't have to be yelling at Oscar because he'd
Speaker 1: be like I've learnt from when younger.
Speaker 2: If I put a fork in the toaster, I'll do it.
Speaker 2: Dad won't like it. No, I'll stop it. Or I
Speaker 2: won't run out in front of traffic anymore because that
Speaker 2: would mean Dad will yell, which I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Oscar on the scooter, right, he's a really good example
Speaker 1: like that oscar on the scooter on the footpath. It
Speaker 1: goes around the corner. I'm like, stop at the corner,
Speaker 1: and he's riding away. Make sure you stop at the corner.
Speaker 1: Stop at the corner. And he goes around the fucking corner,
Speaker 1: and then I've got to go. I've got to yell
Speaker 1: in the streets because I can't see him. It's more
Speaker 1: for his safety that I'm yelling at him now. But
Speaker 1: he didn't fucking listen all the way out.
Speaker 2: And that's your fault for not setting those down earlier.
Speaker 1: What am I gonna be like?
Speaker 2: Please? And if you think of way not yelling at me.
Speaker 1: And you know what that does. It gas lights heaps
Speaker 1: of parents, making them think they're like shit, doing a
Speaker 1: bad job. You're not doing a bad job. You're just
Speaker 1: coping like the rest of us.
Speaker 2: I've got a few videos I've come across because you know,
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time on social media.
Speaker 1: Get a job, bro.
Speaker 2: I am an extremely hard working content creator, and I
Speaker 2: thought each week I will start to drip feeds of
Speaker 2: these videos in front of you in the hope ash
Speaker 2: that I just want to make you and me a
Speaker 2: better parent. But I think most of them will be
Speaker 2: full of shit.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that was full Who would have thought.
Speaker 2: Videos and social media that are explaining how to do
Speaker 2: something full of shit would come from someone who doesn't
Speaker 2: have any idea what they're saying. Should we do ash?
Speaker 2: We've been teasing this for a week now. We've also
Speaker 2: been mentioning it on social media. Yes, we do have
Speaker 2: a brand new segment we do.
Speaker 1: Yes. This segment is called Budget Smuggler's Most Ordinary Parent.
Speaker 2: We desart in their repair ordinary repair.
Speaker 1: We don't know what we do. We don't know what
Speaker 1: we're doing because repair. The vocals on that are absolutely outstanding,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to submit it to something.
Speaker 2: Laura's complained because that's been on repeat and it's like
Speaker 2: one of those earworms or it just won't fucking get out.
Speaker 2: We don't know what we're doing. There's a little part
Speaker 2: we harmonize. There's one moment in there where we harmonize.
Speaker 2: We both know it, and I think when we first
Speaker 2: sung it, we looked at each other and thought.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, we've just are we going to release an alphabet?
Speaker 2: It was like, I can imagine what's what the Beatles
Speaker 2: would have been like when the session they looked at
Speaker 2: each other and gone.
Speaker 1: We've got something. People are probably like, uh oh, they
Speaker 1: listening to the same.
Speaker 2: It's very catchy.
Speaker 1: It is very catchy.
Speaker 2: You can see why John Lenond is one a few Grammys.
Speaker 1: I can't wait till we get our Grammy for that
Speaker 1: version of it.
Speaker 2: Arias are coming up.
Speaker 1: They are yes, and we'll be singing that one live.
Speaker 1: Surely really get up and leave.
Speaker 2: If you got asked to do the mask singer on
Speaker 2: Channel ten, would you do it? Yeah, Charlton, if you're listening,
Speaker 2: we're available. We do you have this new segment. It
Speaker 2: is we put the call out there and we've asked
Speaker 2: for the parents of this country to send through moments
Speaker 2: of ordinary parenting. And we're not saying neglectful parenting.
Speaker 1: We leave them in a hot curR and sun parenting.
Speaker 2: But definitely not please do not do that. We are
Speaker 2: talking about ways in which you can cut corners to
Speaker 2: get the job done with a little less pain. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: we've got we've got some great ones that are sent through.
Speaker 2: We are going to read out a couple. Yep. Only
Speaker 2: one can be the budget smuggler winner with I'll get
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars worth of product.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Ash, do you want to go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go first. I'll read one I like, then
Speaker 1: you can read one you like, and then we'll go
Speaker 1: for the big grit, the big winner.
Speaker 2: Can I just say we had a moment where I mean,
Speaker 2: it's nothing brand new, but the kids loved it. We
Speaker 2: got home late on Monday and it was like quarter
Speaker 2: to seven. Kids are normally bed by seven, absolutely no
Speaker 2: chance of getting any decent food into them. So we
Speaker 2: give him wheatbis and I said, guys, isn't this going
Speaker 2: to be funny? We're going to have dinner, but it'll
Speaker 2: be breakfast.
Speaker 1: It'll be breakfast.
Speaker 2: We'll have it the wrong way around. And they thought
Speaker 2: it was hilarious.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Dad, this is crazy what we're looking for me?
Speaker 2: And then Marley was like, are we going to have
Speaker 2: spaghetti for breakfast? And I was like, maybe we will,
Speaker 2: Like we didn't. They just had more wheatbicks.
Speaker 1: It's like when I told that story about how if
Speaker 1: they've eaten a full nutritious meal like Kindy, I just
Speaker 1: give them to Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, they've come from Kindy, It's totally fine.
Speaker 2: Let's just how you do it. I mean, they snack
Speaker 2: on like chickpeas and carrots.
Speaker 1: That's enough.
Speaker 2: Now, but your first example of ordinary parenting ash, please
Speaker 2: take away.
Speaker 1: Yes, so this one comes from someone called MOFO eighty one.
Speaker 1: But this is Look, this is not the winner, but
Speaker 1: this is the sort of stuff that we love to hear.
Speaker 1: So he does this thing he or she sorry, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yes, they cause the eyes closed game in
Speaker 1: car trips. So they just do this competition who can
Speaker 1: close their eyes the longest obviously not the driver, and
Speaker 1: they just fall asleep. He has two really competitive boys
Speaker 1: and it works. A tree is that's great genius. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like you're lying to them. But it's an
Speaker 1: ordinary parent move that we love to hear.
Speaker 2: But if the kids are going to fall asleep, it's
Speaker 2: a win. They probably need a nap anyway, it's a win.
Speaker 1: That's any win you can get from a cutting a
Speaker 1: corner or whatever is amazing.
Speaker 2: Okay, this one is from Jewels. Also could be a hero.
Speaker 1: She could be.
Speaker 2: They have said, when toddlers are crying, just say it's
Speaker 2: my turn now and cry louder. It stops him.
Speaker 1: Every time I've done this too, it's my turn.
Speaker 2: I did it this morning with Marley she was having
Speaker 2: a little hissy fit because she's doing some coloring in
Speaker 2: started crying and I was like, how did that not win?
Speaker 2: Do you know what? Started crying? And she started laughing.
Speaker 2: Turned it right round straight away. Nothing works better.
Speaker 1: That is great. Okay, now we have a winner.
Speaker 2: This week's winner.
Speaker 1: Now, this week's winner comes from Megan. Megan. I don't
Speaker 1: know Meghan anyway, go that. It's quite a long one.
Speaker 1: Please if I fuck this up, I'm really sorry. She said.
Speaker 1: She wanted to add her parenting hack on decluttering, especially
Speaker 1: bigger toys that her kids have, and how do you
Speaker 1: get rid of them?
Speaker 2: Because my place is messy? As please continue action? What
Speaker 2: have we got?
Speaker 1: She says? What she does. I break the toy when
Speaker 1: they aren't around, on purpose, and when they get home,
Speaker 1: I pretend to trip on it, acting like I've broken it.
Speaker 2: I do the.
Speaker 1: Old Oh no, I've broken it. Bullshit.
Speaker 2: It can't be fixed.
Speaker 1: We'll have to put it in the bin. Works every
Speaker 1: bloody time. Therefore removing the shit toys. I hate taking
Speaker 1: up space in the house, but that rather outstanding and
Speaker 1: I will be using that one. I love the just
Speaker 1: the secrecy of it when they're not around. I just
Speaker 1: secretly break them so prem psychotic.
Speaker 2: I was going to say it's borderline psychotic, bullblown psychotic,
Speaker 2: but it's one. You two hundred bucks of Budget Smuggler gear.
Speaker 1: Well done, that's amazing. Love that. We'll reach out to you.
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Speaker 1: please send us a d M with your and reparenting stories.
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to what we do best, and that
Speaker 1: is answering the parenting questions of the world. The whole
Speaker 1: world has come to ask with questions that they have
Speaker 1: and they need answered immediately.
Speaker 2: I've got one here, can pipe that up. That was
Speaker 2: a great intro.
Speaker 1: I'm just on one today. Anything you need to do,
Speaker 1: I'll do it.
Speaker 2: That oat flat white you had before is just absolutely earning.
Speaker 1: It made me gassy, That's what.
Speaker 2: Earning. Its keep earning it.
Speaker 1: I've de robed my microphone. Well okay, okay questions Matthew,
Speaker 1: you can go first, okay.
Speaker 2: And this is no way targeted towards you because.
Speaker 1: You said why are you just targeting me?
Speaker 2: Today? Just happens to be one that I thought we
Speaker 2: were both unpacked. Also, you swear from your kids a lot.
Speaker 2: This comes from Scott and he says, how should you
Speaker 2: react when your kid swears? His little girl is just
Speaker 2: over three in a little bit and she has copied
Speaker 2: her mother? How can one not laugh and discipline at
Speaker 2: the same time. Now, Ash, he has sent through a
Speaker 2: video and he has said, I can play this audio. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna give you this ship full context of
Speaker 2: the swear word that their little daughter is using.
Speaker 1: Fucking hope it's the sea bomb, black eye hopa, it's
Speaker 1: the Z bomb.
Speaker 2: What does mommy say? Did you just say silly can't?
Speaker 1: Are you fucking serious? That's amazing? What does mommy say?
Speaker 1: What's the other.
Speaker 2: Way fucking.
Speaker 1: Is she saying silly can't? I think she's saying silly cars.
Speaker 2: I thought she was dropping silly cars. Okay, silly cars.
Speaker 2: It's not as bad as what we thought.
Speaker 1: WHOA. I was like, look, I know I wished for it,
Speaker 1: and then when I saw it, I was like, no,
Speaker 1: but she's saying the first one silly cars, but the
Speaker 1: next one is fucking car. I thought you said silly car.
Speaker 2: It's always do you know when it gets you. The
Speaker 2: hardest part is when you're driving and some idiot in
Speaker 2: front of your yeah, being stupid. It slips out. I say,
Speaker 2: for fox sake.
Speaker 1: For fox Sake is a good one.
Speaker 2: And I'm always like, oh god, Marley's there, just like
Speaker 2: absorbing everywhere and going, oh, u's that one. That's great.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like they were saying that time when we
Speaker 1: got the pool noodle up onto the side, fuck sack
Speaker 1: into the noodle at a resort.
Speaker 2: Okay, but it's hard because it's equal parts hilarious. Yeah,
Speaker 2: as it is concerning.
Speaker 1: That your kids are dropping what they're doing there. If
Speaker 1: you're disciplining it, then they're like this is naughty. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna you know, and they're going to push that boundary
Speaker 1: that that fucking idiot was telling us about. But if
Speaker 1: you have a giggle about it, then it's harmless. I think.
Speaker 1: I always say like, I don't really care if my
Speaker 1: kids drop a swear word. I'll think it's funny if
Speaker 1: it's in context. But if they start saying to someone
Speaker 1: in public like fuck you, that's when I'm going to
Speaker 1: be like that.
Speaker 2: No, if the waiter like drop some marshmallow when giving
Speaker 2: them a baby Chino and fake lady, I better rate.
Speaker 1: It in I'm going to really go home and look
Speaker 1: in the mirror and think about my parenting.
Speaker 2: Parenting is that hard? At any moment where the child
Speaker 2: is behaving to a certain degree but not destroying anything
Speaker 2: and giving you a moment of laughter, you just got
Speaker 2: to take it for It's.
Speaker 1: Something to talk to your friends about as well, Like
Speaker 1: it's always a good laugh when you're having a drink
Speaker 1: with other parents and you're like, I was gonna dropped
Speaker 1: a F bomb the other day, and in context it's
Speaker 1: great and watch this. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2: So Scotty laugh away, my friend play.
Speaker 1: On my question to you, Matthew. Okay, it comes from
Speaker 1: Brent Redmond.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't know what that was funny?
Speaker 1: Is that that made up? Mate? No?
Speaker 2: That's legit.
Speaker 1: I think what's the strangest dinner you've fed your child.
Speaker 1: My two year old just went with a slice of ham,
Speaker 1: a crumpet with the teller and a pouch to wash.
Speaker 2: It down, delicious, a smalgas border, random random items.
Speaker 1: That is random? What about you?
Speaker 2: What have you? Okay? So this one wasn't one that
Speaker 2: went down well. You sometimes you say to your kids,
Speaker 2: you're not going to like this food, and they're like,
Speaker 2: I want it. I love it, and you're like, you're
Speaker 2: gonna hate it. It's not gonna be a jam. It's
Speaker 2: either spicy or it's just like a weird flavor. And
Speaker 2: Marley was like, give it to me, give it to
Speaker 2: me now, bitch. And I was like, all right, if
Speaker 2: you really wanted, I'll give you one. But when we
Speaker 2: moved house, we're clearing out the pantry, you know, there's
Speaker 2: always those random items like yeah, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: how they got there.
Speaker 1: I bought that thing and I'm going to make something
Speaker 1: with this. Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think this might have been like a ham or some
Speaker 2: I don't know where it came from.
Speaker 1: Hampers always got the weird combination of like food in
Speaker 1: one food.
Speaker 2: So it was like items that are like you wouldn't
Speaker 2: buy that never, that's why they give them away, Like
Speaker 2: you've got no choice in the matter.
Speaker 1: You' getting into a fucking hamd park.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the items that we held onto was
Speaker 2: smoked muscles. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and like in the
Speaker 2: can yeah. And I was like looking at it, and
Speaker 2: maybe because it was a sho I don't know, Marley
Speaker 2: was like, I love one of those.
Speaker 1: Plans, one of those shiny can things.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty hungry. And I was like, you're not gonna
Speaker 2: like this, and she's like, serve it up, serve it
Speaker 2: up and give it to me. So I was like whatever,
Speaker 2: Like I don't care, like have it if you want.
Speaker 2: So I gave her a smoked muscle and she was like, yep,
Speaker 2: that's delicious. I would like another. She it was oh.
Speaker 2: I was like I told you, yeah, I told you.
Speaker 1: No, they don't get it for me. On this one.
Speaker 1: The food it wasn't the strange part. It was how
Speaker 1: it was eaten as the strange part. So it was
Speaker 1: just a spaghetti bowlin a no meatball spaghetti, so like
Speaker 1: the big meatball. Okay, served it up to Oscar and
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, I don't I don't want the sauce,
Speaker 1: So I put it in a strainer, washed it under
Speaker 1: the tap, put it back in his bowl and gave
Speaker 1: it to him and he ate it. So it was
Speaker 1: essentially watered down spaghetti with a watered down meatball, and
Speaker 1: he ate the whole thing and gobbled that bitch up.
Speaker 2: Their little arrogant little things. Aren't that weird?
Speaker 1: Man? Kids are weird?
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? He was like, this tastes like ass.
Speaker 2: But he's like, I'm not going to accept defeat here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know what he thought? He probably thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, just to annoy this person, I'm going
Speaker 1: to get him to deconstruct this meal, just for ships
Speaker 1: and giggle. And then when he got it, he was like,
Speaker 1: what have I done? What have I done?
Speaker 2: This is a mistake? Kids? Is so dumb? Hey, ash?
Speaker 2: That is until we have time for is we did?
Speaker 2: We did? So? I feel like we do waffle before
Speaker 2: we start recording. When you come out to this.
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