WEBVTT - Shaynna Blaze: COUNTRY HOME RESCUE - PRESENTER 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:03.960 TV Reload the podcast last week their light. 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.320 Welcome back guys to TV Reload. My name is Benjamin 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.039 Norris and on this podcast I go behind the scenes 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.640 with the biggest players in television. Each episode you will 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:18.239 get a front row seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.119 editors and casting agents, plus the talent that we see 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.400 on our screens. TV Reload reloads the shows that we 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.360 are currently watching and gives you a better insight into 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.200 our television industry and our streaming services. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:30.720 Today. 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.560 On the podcast, I have one of Australia's most celebrated 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.920 interior designers. It is Channel nine's Darling Shana Blaze. Shana 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.839 is a television personality, writer and former singer and for 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.560 the first time, we're going to see her like never 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.920 before as she takes on a reality show that puts 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.880 her in the driver's seat boots it all. The new series, 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.240 titled Country Home Rescue, starts next Wednesday at seven thirty 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.920 on Channel nine, where you will see the dynamics of 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.600 her family life post divorce, featuring both of her children 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.640 now adults, joining her on an adventurous and somewhat ambitious 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:08.959 renovating project situated in Victoria's regional town of Kinton. I 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.880 will ask Shana how the project came about, whether she 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.160 pitched it, or whether they came to her, if her 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.639 kids were genuinely willing to take part, what she thinks 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.760 of the media intrusion of her private life, and we 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.840 will also hear some of her thoughts post the dramatic 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.959 Block finale. However, let's get started with today's episode. I'd 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.520 like to welcome Shana Blaze to TV Reload. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.800 I had to go into celebrity printice, going boots and 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:36.480 all just being me. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.120 Shana Blaze has created more magic in more homes than 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:42.560 any Aussie alive. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.119 If we did Country Home Rescue before that, we may 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:47.080 not have been as raw. 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.640 As a judge in The Bloc has inspired countless renovators 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.680 across our great Southern land. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.000 The Block doesn't have manufactured drama. It just happens to 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:58.320 be people against each other. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:02.440 Competition does that for the first time ever, Shane is 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.320 doing something she's never done before. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.360 But I sort of felt like a lot of my 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.080 private life was taken out of my control. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:16.280 And the family band together and create Shanea's Forever Country Home. 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.240 There was a lot of nervous laugh moments in there too, 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.959 where things were just going a little bit too pear shape. 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:24.000 Hi Bear, how are you? 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.079 I am fabulous. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:27.880 I've been waiting for this show to go to air 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.240 forever and I'm really excited. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.880 Well, I'm excited to have you on the podcast. I 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.200 have so much admiration for you, and I have been 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.840 delighted to preview the whole series and now have this 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:40.440 chat with you. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.200 Wow. How lucky are you? I hope, I hope. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.959 I hope people come with you on this journey because, 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.040 like for me, I have to be honest. I was 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.920 a little bit skeptical about it myself. I wasn't sure, 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.200 you know, how it would all come together. But it 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.840 is a beautiful show and you can't see this, but 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.120 this is my study area and I've I've actually cleaned 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.080 it all up because you've inspired me to be Shane A. 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.639 Blaze and if it does that, I'm very happy. 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:08.800 Yeah, my part is also happy if I'm going to 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.320 be a much cleaner person. I was saying to Channel 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.639 nine before watching Country Home Rescue, how much I love 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.160 your laugh And it felt like my prayers for answer 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.920 because we get you laughing a lot in this. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.119 I think there's a lot of nervous laughter too. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.799 Look, I'm in my happy space, I'm with my family, 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.160 I know a lot of the trays. It was really comfortable, 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.160 and I think when you're doing something that's coming from 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.480 your heart and your soul, it's so easy to laugh. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.440 But there was a lot of nervous laugh moments in 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.600 there too, where things were just going a little bit 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:39.520 two pear shape. 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.960 Well, if it doesn't go pair shaped, then there's a 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.080 lot of the enjoyment that that's taken out of it. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.360 Because in real world, like we all have things that 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.000 come across our table, and I think it's important to 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:52.480 try and laugh that kind of stuff off. 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.160 You know, you should have a sense of humor about 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:54.640 these things. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.520 I literally have built my life on that. Like, you know, 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.120 the problems will always come you and the only way 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.240 you can grow, the only way you can get the 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.280 good out of it, is to really embrace it and 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:07.920 then work out, well what am I going to do? 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.400 Because if you shy away from things going wrong, you're 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.040 never going to grow or move forward. 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.160 Well, how did this show come about? You know, did 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.440 you pitch this show? To the creators or did the 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:18.719 creators come to you? 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.000 No, I pitched it, So I pitched it actually before COVID, 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:27.680 so it actually was accepted before COVID in early twenty nineteen, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.279 and then twenty twenty we were about to sort of 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.880 go yep, let's do this, and it just went bang. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.400 And so once I was lucky enough to win Celebrity 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.480 of Printers, Channel nine went maybe we should revisit that show, 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.159 and then that's how that came about. So the following 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:48.040 year we started in early twenty twenty one, which is eighten. 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:51.400 Like nearly two years ago. So yeah, it was it's 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:51.960 been a long. 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.720 Time coming, am I right by saying that we got 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.200 to see a little bit of a sneak peek at 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:56.960 the start of the season of the Block this year, 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.760 did we when they mentioned the tree change and they 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.160 said that all the judges would have had a tree change, 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.360 we got to see a glimpse of it, right, you did? 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.800 Yeah, And I wassued in the land room. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:11.200 Yeah, don't give away to show too much of this house, 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.280 and hopefully everyone forgets you know. 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.960 Everyone loves it before and after, but it's the middle 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.520 bit that makes the after so good. And this is 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.600 part of I'm sure you've got a million questions because 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:28.400 you've seen the whole show, is that this is personal 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.119 and this is not a competition and it's not for sale. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:31.599 Yeah. 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.240 Absolutely, I mean I wanted to ask because I've seen 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.520 it all. I'm desperate to know how much the house 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.839 would now be worth, you know, not to spoil it 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.240 for anyone to say that the house is amazing or 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:42.960 it's terrible or whatever. I don't want to spoil that, 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:44.560 but I will have to get back to you and 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:45.839 asking that question because I'm. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:46.279 Dying to know. 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.640 I'm like a lot went into it. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.080 I mean, there's plenty to digest here, and there's a 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.000 lot for viewers to invest in. Was it difficult or 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.200 was it a difficult decision for you to let us 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.119 in like we haven't seen you before. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:00.440 Absolute lutely. 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.240 It was one of those things where I feel like, 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.280 just the way my life's been the past couple of 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.239 years that my private I hold my life very private, 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.360 and a lot of people didn't even know I had 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:12.200 adult kids. 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.000 A lot of people thought I had kids in high school. 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.320 So there's a lot of you know, you can sort 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:17.880 of put your life out there in the public, you 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.000 don't have to let them into your private life. 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.320 But I sort of felt like a lot of. 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.080 My private life was taken out of my control, and 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.200 so I was getting chased by paparazzi. I had media 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.600 at me and really invading me, trying to tell my story. 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.279 So part of this was also to say, look, you 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.080 think you might know who I am and through snippets 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.080 of gossip whatever, but this. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:41.680 Is who I am. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:43.800 So it was a little bit of just saying, you 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.599 know what, I need to take control of who I 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.920 am as a person too, So that came into play 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:49.200 as the beginning of the pitch. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.400 What do you reckon percentage wise on the media getting 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.279 it right when they talk about you? Because I've read 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.720 stuff in the past only knowing you. I've got girlfriends 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.960 that are friends with you, so like they off and say, oh, 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.400 a lot of it's really untrue. What do you think 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.640 the percentage is on what the media says about you 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.160 compared to what's actually accurate? 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.320 Probably twenty percent. Wow, Yeah, it's not much. And the 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:12.880 thing is also like there's a lot. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.720 Of magazines and online ones that you want to write 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.040 something about me, and I don't talk to them because 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.080 they misconsidrue everything is say they printed anyway and just 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.520 make up stuff and just say, you know, a source 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.000 is snow source. It's just people sitting in a room gossiping, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.200 that's all it is. And you know they might take 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.920 a thread of a truth and there have been and 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.480 then expand on that, and some of them you just go, oh, 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:36.760 how did you know that? 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:37.080 How? 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:37.440 You know? 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.960 Because I know my friends are a vault and so 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:41.160 there was a couple of things. 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.440 That I just went, wow, okay, yeah, that's through me 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:43.960 to six. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.440 I think that I've started to believe that maybe they're 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:47.560 psychic writers, you. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:48.000 Know what I mean. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.360 They kind of are looking at your image like you 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.440 would if you went to a psychic medium, and they're 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.520 trying to draw what they assume to be true just 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.800 from the very small facts that they have in front 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:00.440 of them, and some of them very good at it, 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:01.920 and that's how they get it right, you know what 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:02.280 I mean? 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.840 Yeah, absolutely, And it's also taking pictures that you're unaware 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.280 of and following you and making stories out of what 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.360 you did. Like I'm sure people couldn't give two hots 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.480 about me coming back from pilates, but the amount of 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.840 times I have been chased at eight in the morning 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.360 going to pilates like it's caah. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.480 Because I think, you know, you are someone who we 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:27.040 do care about. I think we have an ownership over you. 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.000 And I think as much as it could be very intrusive, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.160 I think that you have to be like, wow, I'm 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.480 surprised that you know, people are that interested, But I 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:36.319 want to tell you, I. 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.360 Think they really care that I go to pilarates. 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.240 It's not about you're going to pilates. 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.680 It's about us, you know, seeing that you're happy and 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.440 you're well and you know, and I think that's inspiring 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.079 for other women to see that you're an active woman, 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.640 you know. I think that's what they're interested in. I mean, 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.440 as I said, though, yeah, it is. It is incredibly intrusive, 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.719 but I imagine that you winning Celebrity Apprentice gave you more 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.880 common fidence in letting us be a little bit more 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:06.240 a part of you because you have been in you know, 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:07.040 the end to Tayable. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.280 You've done what fourteen seasons of the block. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.439 Fourteen seasons block thirteen of selling houses and I started 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:13.559 over fifteen years ago. 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.959 So yeah, but we only got to sort of see 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.440 the Better Homes and Gardens version of you to a 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.760 certain point, you know, and then to go on a 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.880 reality show where it's your name and it's your words. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.120 Was it Celebrity Apprentice that gave you the confidence to 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:28.480 sort of go a little bit further with that? 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:29.359 Absolutely? 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.520 I sort of feel like if we did Country Home 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.800 Rescue before that, we may not have been as raw. 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:39.640 In this version of Country Home Rescue. The I had 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.680 to go into celebrity printice going just boots and all 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.559 just being me, which I can't be anything, but but 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.120 there was a lot of machinations of people seeing me 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.520 behind the scenes of how I deal with people, what I. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.080 Do, and you know, getting my kids on there. 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.319 So we sort of, you know, made ourselves exposed by 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.440 talking about who I am and what I do, but 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.240 also you know, snippets into my past of why I 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.640 was doing Celebrity Prentice, And you know, people didn't know 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:07.520 at the time that when we were doing that, I 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.599 had just come off the attack of being attacked in 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:11.080 the street months earlier. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.480 So I was so raw, so raw. So I felt 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:15.600 like it was a. 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.360 Family decision that if I was going on that the 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.880 kids had to know and accept. I wasn't going to 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:24.200 go on without their permission because it's their life as well. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.120 Not just mine, if you know what I mean. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.320 So I went in there going well, boots and all, 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.440 that's just what I can do. And I have to 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.319 say it was an incredible experience. I have alleterally have 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.760 my heart in my throat every single day. But everybody, 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.880 every contestant on there was there for all the right reasons. 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.480 I think if somebody was there just for you know, 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:49.040 to level their status or you know, get something else, probably. 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.439 Would have been a little bit different. 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.600 But I found everybody to be so real and it 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:54.960 was just it was amazing. 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:56.840 When I reflect on that part, I think. 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.800 We want our celebrities to be real though, do you 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:00.480 know what I mean? Like, I think that's the currency. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.720 I think it's the one who have a short term 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:05.560 shelf life that aren't real. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:06.160 You know what I mean. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.840 You see it more so with the reality space, because 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.360 you know, their way into reality is applying for a 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.560 show and the door opens and then they're a celebrity, 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.880 you know what I mean, well, temporary celebrity lately, and 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:20.200 so then they're trying to like manage that where for 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.240 people like yourself I mean, your passion for what it 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.679 is that you do is your reason. It's your origins 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.120 to why you're on television, which gives you a lot 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.880 more gravitas, you know what I mean? 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.080 Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.640 If you're going in for like an experience of what 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.760 you do, whether you're an actor, you are a singer 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:44.200 and entertainer, an artist or something like that, it's not 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.360 about celebrity status. It's about what you do. And then 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.400 the celebrity because I still hate that word. I call 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:54.240 it well known. That status is then that layer that 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.720 sits on that. And you don't live and die by 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.640 people have know you. You live and die by your craft. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.920 Do you live and die by the people around you? 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.520 I have to say I love you on Twitter. I've 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.559 been following you on Twitter the day you started. But 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.520 the reason why I love you on Twitter is because, 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.120 like you're very open and you're very opinionated, and I 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.960 was brought up by opinionated women in my family, so 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.160 like it's just that's just how we all should be, 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:23.640 you know, That's how all women should be, do you 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.360 know what I mean? But I love how you make 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.600 some people accountable in the news, and you feel so 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:29.280 confident to be able to have that. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.440 But I wonder do you have any rules? Because Rob 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:32.439 Mills once told me. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.800 That he writes out a tweet and then he waits 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.720 an hour before he presses send. Do you, because you 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.320 are so opinionated in that forum, do you have a 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.520 process or do you just like I'm doing it? 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.360 Yeah? I wish I had that. No, No, don't. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.920 I don't have rules. I just I have I literally 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.760 have that thing. If my kids see this, would I 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.880 be Okay? That's more where it comes from. It's that 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.600 sort of thing. And there are so there's so many 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.720 levels of great people on Twitter, and then the level 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.120 of like people that are literally white noise. I call 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.600 them the people that shout from across the street. And 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.040 so the people that are shouting across the street that 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.400 look like a little bit dodgy and look like they 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.240 haven't had a great day, do you really go. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:16.480 And talk to them? And your auntswers? 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.480 So why would you say that, Like, you know, I'm 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.880 really upset that you don't like what I'm thinking. It's 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.600 just like you're the strange person shouting across the seat street. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:25.840 You have no room in my life. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.520 So as long as I'm comfortable with what I'm doing, 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.720 and you know my kids wouldn't turn around and just 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.040 get done, then I'm okay. 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.640 Did you have to convince your kids, Carly and Jess 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.560 to be on the show. Have they ever expressed any 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.880 interest in having a media career like yours? 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.440 Well, my dad, my son is an actor, like he 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.080 did a night of training a long time ago. He 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.120 wrote the movie and acts in the movie that we 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.200 initially bought the house for for the fort and my daughter, no, 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.480 behind the scenes, she doesn't like it, but I think 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.839 she's liking it now. She's very much enjoying being on 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.000 the camera in a good way. 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.480 She's great, She's very good on camera, so. 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:02.480 And that's her. 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.160 She's so natural, she's just absolutely just hilarious. And my 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:10.040 son took a lot more convincing because he loves being 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.640 on this camera and the screen, but this is our 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.960 personal life and he's like, oh, mom, I'm not sure 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.679 about that. And he was coming from a protection mode 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.960 of also like are you thinking this through? Is this 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.560 something that you're sure about? And also exposing him personally, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.440 So it was more of my son. But once they 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.280 both decided it was a case of like, well, if 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:31.280 we're we're in. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.800 COVID really sort of changed the course of you know, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.280 for a lot of Australians. Do you think that you 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.800 would have taken this opportunity to make a tree change 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.640 if it wasn't for these lockdowns. Although you were already 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.200 pitching the show, you were saying, I've been looking. 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.160 To in Kineton and massive in Rangers, probably about three 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:49.120 or four years. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:52.120 Before I pitched the show before we bought. 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:53.520 It, always ahead of the trend, Shaer. 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.280 But I always wanted that country get away because I 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.120 just knew that it wasn't just a in a city 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.880 living that it was always just getting away and then 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.480 you know, eventually it could be somewhere where you'd spend 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.520 weeks at a time and having the access to the 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.960 city because it's only an hour and fifteen from Melbourne, 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.720 so it's not like that two three hour trip where 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.480 you can only go every month or something like that. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.160 But it wasn't somewhere where I imagined that would be 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.320 almost like a full time place or embraced. 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.360 But definitely lockdown. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.080 Changes your perspective and changes, and you know, my whole 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.440 career with selling houses was traveling the country for eight 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.400 months of a year, and I don't think people realize 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.600 that the amount of time that you are traveling and 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.600 being able to be home lockdown was hard, but actually 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:46.880 being based and calm and with my family just really 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:47.320 just went. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.680 You know what, I think. I think this is a 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:50.080 good thing. 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.680 I really miss you on selling houses. If I'm honest, 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:53.040 we have. 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.440 A time period and this is the next step for me. 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.520 I think that you've always been destined to have your 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:01.000 own show, doing this kind of show, Like it just 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.360 feels like this is the natural progression for you. I 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.760 mean as soon as you won Celebrity Apprentice, I was like, yes, 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.280 this is going to give us more of you, and 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.200 I think that door has definitely opened. Although we everyone 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:13.560 still loves you on the Block, so you have to 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:14.600 keep doing that as well. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.800 I'm not going until I get pushed out. I'm not going. 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.080 What's really interesting this show is a really interesting experiment 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.360 because the show is quite similar to the Block, but 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.479 yet all the drama that we've seen amongst the contestants 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:28.360 is not there. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.520 No, because the thing is one, I am in the industry, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.840 two it's my kids, and then it's just you know, 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.440 a lot of people renovate with their family. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.680 A lot of people renovate with their siblings. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.080 A lot of people renovate with the partner without the 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:49.920 stress of competition and without the stress of being judged, 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.400 and without the stress of worrying about the market. So 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.360 this is not for profit. This is not about you know, 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.280 something that's going to date in twelve months. This is 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:02.280 about me showing you design for your life, how to 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.919 design for your family, how to design for something that 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:05.680 for me. 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.000 I would like to pass on to my kids in 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.160 the next generation. That's the key. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.720 Did you ever think of having the element in this 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.840 show of say the two boys from the bloc come 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.080 in and do a score and a thing. Was there 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.800 ever any discussion about each room being graded? 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:23.200 What with Darren and Neil? 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:24.000 Yeah? 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.879 Absolutely, I actually wanted them to be on one of 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.960 the episodes to come through and do that, but because 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.119