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Speaker 1: Candace Fox is the author of eleven novels and the

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Speaker 1: winner of three prestigious ned Kelly Awards. She's also co

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Speaker 1: written nine New York Times best sellers with James Patterson,

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Speaker 1: only the world's best selling thriller writer. A meticulous researcher,

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Speaker 1: Candace has interviewed a serial killer on death row. She's

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Speaker 1: been to prison three times for research, and while on

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Speaker 1: honeymoon in the US, took a road trip to famous

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Speaker 1: crime scenes looking for clues. That is how committed she

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Speaker 1: is to the craft. And now she is joining us

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Speaker 1: to talk about her brand new book, Red Belly Crossing.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Candace, committed to crime.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, committed to crime. They've found it a little bit,

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Speaker 2: a little bit like I've been put somewhere in a

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Speaker 2: strait jacket. That's very on brand.

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Speaker 1: Actually, you might feel like that sometimes.

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Speaker 2: A little bit, a little bit, just a.

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Speaker 1: Couple of chapters to go, you know. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the new book, your twentieth novel. Goodness may congratulations, Red

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Speaker 1: Belly Crossing. This is a am I right, and this

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Speaker 1: is a little bit different this time it's based on

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Speaker 1: something that really did happen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, so I'm always trying to keep it different,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I wasn't necessarily trying to get so

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Speaker 2: deep into true crime this time, but I found that

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Speaker 2: I had a family connection. My mother just decided to

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Speaker 2: reveal to me after eight years of me trying to

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Speaker 2: be the foremost crime writer in the country. She's like, suddenly, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know what. You know what, I had a near

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Speaker 2: miss with a serial killer when I was seventeen. I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, really, really, I know that. Here's a

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Speaker 2: little plot twist for you here. I know, I know.

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Speaker 2: And so I took her tears about these fifty year

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Speaker 2: old cold cases that two women who were murdered were

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Speaker 2: Lynnette White and Marius Miths, murdered in their apartments in Cushie.

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Speaker 2: I took it to the police and I said, well,

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Speaker 2: here's this tip from my mother. She thinks she saw

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Speaker 2: the guy. And they were like, all right, great, well

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Speaker 2: then so that have a nice day. And I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: I can't just be it like I'm Candice Fox. I

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Speaker 2: have been called into this situation. Surely I should go

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Speaker 2: ahead and solve it myself down. And so I tried that.

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Speaker 2: I tried that for about three minutes, and then I

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Speaker 2: realized that homicide detection is like a whole profession that

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Speaker 2: takes you know, training and experience in decades, you know.

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Speaker 2: And so I thought, you know what my skills are

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Speaker 2: in they're in writing fiction and talking to people. And

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Speaker 2: so I sought permission from Lynnette and Maria's husbands, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I said, this is what I want to do.

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Speaker 2: I said, it's not going to be like Dexter or

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Speaker 2: some jokes, both star saying, you know, I'm horrified by

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Speaker 2: what happened to your wives. And I think that I

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Speaker 2: could use who I am and what I do, you know,

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Speaker 2: because I've got crime readers reading my novels. They like puzzles,

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Speaker 2: they like mysteries, they like to get involved. They're thinking me,

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Speaker 2: maybe I could drum up something like my mother, who's

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Speaker 2: she hasn't told this story in fifty years, my mother,

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Speaker 2: and maybe I can reach somebody out there who has

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Speaker 2: some little tidbit that might help. And they were all

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Speaker 2: for it. You know.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think in recent times, we've really seen a

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Speaker 1: lot of situations where a book or dare I say it,

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Speaker 1: a podcast of some sort has you know, it reaches

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Speaker 1: so many people, and next minute things are changing. People

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Speaker 1: are being discovered, or people are getting out of prison,

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Speaker 1: or it really you do have the power.

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Speaker 2: The story is getting out there, and more and more

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Speaker 2: people go, oh, I think I've got some door for here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there might be somebody out there who

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Speaker 2: thinks that whatever they know is not relevant. Like my

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Speaker 2: mum just thought it wasn't relevant, and I'm saying to her,

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Speaker 2: you've actually read all of my novels. It's always someone

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Speaker 2: some weird person off to the side who has a

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Speaker 2: little thing. Anyway, So the novel is about a troop

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Speaker 2: line podcaster who is murdered and these two brothers go

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Speaker 2: to investigate the case. So the brothers are estrange, they

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Speaker 2: hate each other's guts, they haven't spoken in five years,

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Speaker 2: so they're both assigned to this case. And then they

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Speaker 2: discovered they have a family connection. And the novel is

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Speaker 2: out today and I have already Last night I received

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Speaker 2: my first tip from the public. Yeah, a guy wrote

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Speaker 2: to me and he was like, I heard you on

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Speaker 2: a podcast talking about your novel and I think I

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Speaker 2: had something. So I don't know if it's going to

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Speaker 2: help in any way, but you know, it's the only

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Speaker 2: way that I could think of. And you know, I

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Speaker 2: met Paul and Stephen and I spoke to them and

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Speaker 2: I said I have good intentions and they said, we

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Speaker 2: can feel your good intentions.

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Speaker 1: I imagine that I would welcome it. Yeah, you know, Mum,

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Speaker 1: is that it? Is there anything else?

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Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to add? Well? I

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Speaker 2: know you know. When I told my husband about it,

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Speaker 2: he said, that is so on branch for your mother, right, well,

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Speaker 2: completely unsurprising.

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Speaker 1: Red Belly Crossing is out now. It is my Easter

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Speaker 1: read this week. And congratulations on your twentieth novel, Candas.

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Speaker 1: It's always so lovely to chat to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thanks for having me on. You're welcome, Candas,

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. And there you go. There is

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Speaker 2: your easter sworded life.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and you know, I mean it is amazing. The

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Speaker 1: pen is mightier than the sword. You never know what

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Speaker 1: you find once you're and

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Speaker 2: You never know who you find it out from, exactly right, mum,