1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Dumb mission with Jonesy and Amanda. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: We're talking this morning about Tales of the UFI. And 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: I'm not putting on skeptical pansy. You know, fifty three 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: years of life, and I've been to many isolated places 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 2: and I've often looked up in the sky and I've thought, 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: surely there's something out there, I just haven't seen it. 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: Well, it seems that sensible scientific people are looking at this. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 3: It's not the image that we have from movies, where 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: you know, with a hay seed out of your mouth. 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: Maybe it's time we start looking at this. The top 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: echelon of American government, there's scientists are starting to look 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: at this. Maybe it's time we did so Tales of 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: the UFI. 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: But what you know, in this day and age, where 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: there's a camera to catch you doing everything, why don't 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: we have an unequivocal proof. 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 4: Well, there is alien a picture of a spaceship. 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: Well, this is the Pentagon is saying that they have 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: had sightings from their top military pilots of craft behaving 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: in a way that our technology cannot achieve. 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 4: Robi aka, Yes, can you sound reasonable? Rob You're not 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: a yokul? 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 5: No, Actually, I'm a huge skeptic, but I do have 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 5: a story what happened. I'm a pilot, have been for 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 5: many years. Quite a few years ago, I used to 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 5: fly a rescue helicopter on the north coast in New 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 5: South Wales and about one or two in the morning, 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 5: we were coming back from doing a patient transfer up 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 5: to Brisbane. So we're flying south past probably around cool 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 5: and Gatta, about five thousand feet and there was a 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 5: row of lights appeared in front of the helicopter quite close. 32 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 5: I thought it was close enough that it was going 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 5: to conflict with us, and I was a bit upset 34 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 5: that their traffic control hadn't warned us about any traffic. 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 5: So I called Brisbane up and Brisbane Air Traffic Control 36 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: and said, you know what traffic have you got for me? 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 5: I've got something at one o'clock or whatever, and they said, no, 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 5: we haven't got anything on the radar at all. And 39 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 5: my crewman was awake and he could see it as well. 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 5: But after I don't know a minute, the lights just disappeared. 41 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 4: Wow. 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 5: And I am a skeptic, and we couldn't explain it, 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 5: and Brisbane had no explanation. So that's it. 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: Why do you. 45 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: Think they don't. I mean, you can't answer the bigger questions, 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: but why do they come and observe us and don't 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: contact us? 48 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm a skeptic, so I haven't really 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 5: thought I thought that through. 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 4: Did you have any theories like a weather balloon or 51 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 4: something like that. 52 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 5: No, I mean I've been a pilot for thirty seven 53 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 5: years and I've never seen anything like that, and I 54 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 5: have seen weather balloons, and normally air traffic will warn 55 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 5: you about that sort of thing because they do get 56 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 5: a radar return from them. So no, it was a 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 5: row of lights, five or six lights, as though it 58 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 5: was the you know, as you were looking at the 59 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 5: through the windows side windows of an aircraft, it was there, 60 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 5: and then I don't know, a minute later it was gone. 61 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 5: And we were discussing it as we could see it 62 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 5: by the crew and iye, so it wasn't just me, 63 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 5: and it was early in the morning, and sure it's 64 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 5: a bit tired, but we both saw it. 65 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: Fascinating that you were interesting, isn't it sounds like a 66 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: lucid person. 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: And Anna's joined us as well. 68 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: Hello, Anna, Yes, I'm here, Hello Anna, what did you see? 69 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 6: Okay? 70 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: I was just around about I don't know, thirteen, i'd say. 71 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: And I was good with my parents at Villa Wood, 72 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: and we all went to bed that night and I heard, 73 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a long melt up on my bed, 74 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: looked at the window and there was this CUFO and 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: it was spacially about the ground, you know, it's sort 76 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: of up in the air and anyway, with the lights 77 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: around it and anyway, and I watched it and I 78 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: got scared, so I went under the covers. And the 79 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: next morning, it was Saturday night. Next morning, I heard 80 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: my son was killing out. Heard the bloody holle burnt 81 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: my gardens and all my plants, you know. And then 82 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: and I said to my mom, I said, I saw 83 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: a ufoture that and you must have been dreaming, and 84 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: I said, I just got into bed and the anyhow, 85 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: and what happened was later on, many years later, and 86 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: I got the UFO Society involved. They came out and 87 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: we had a set up phone between here and America. 88 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 1: I don't know which part it was, and I spoke 89 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: to them, telling them what I saw as well. And anyhow, 90 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: and then the UFO Society at Camptown they came out 91 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: and they took samples of the soil. There was light, 92 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: very very slight traces of radiation and so yeah, and 93 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: it was proven and they gave me a copy of 94 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: that on a what do you call one of osett 95 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: were district put in the computer. 96 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: You know, was discuss Can I ask you this when 97 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: you say you saw a flying saucer? Was it the 98 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 3: classic shape that we see in movies? 99 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: It was round, is you know? I said, the lots 100 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: of source of flashish and around. But I had all 101 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: we likes to write around it. But as I said, 102 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: I didn't coming down, but I heard it going. Oh 103 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: that's what got my attention. But none of the dogs, 104 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: the cats, the horse next door where it would have 105 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: came down me that side of the corral. No nothing, 106 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: no noise from any of the animals. 107 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: Strange, very strange. 108 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: Thank you, Anna, thank you. I remember when I was 109 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: a kid, he's just said, and my dad, he was 110 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: an ally passa. 111 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: Do you see UFO's dad And he said, if I did, 112 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: they'd take my license off. 113 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 3: Well, this is this is what's interesting. We always assume 114 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: that it was the nutjobs or the vulnerable amongst us 115 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: who wanted to believe this stuff, whereas now maybe it's time. 116 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: Can you imagine that if you don't on a night 117 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: job flying, you're seven four seven. 118 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: But maybe this is why rational people. Rational people are 119 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: too scared to say I've seen something, because we tend 120 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: to think they're weird. 121 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: This is a safe space. You can come here and 122 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 4: there's no judgment. Gareth is with us. Hello, Gareth, guys, 123 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 4: very well. 124 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: What have you seen? 125 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Gareth? 126 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 6: Probably I was of eight on nine different things at 127 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 6: different times, but they asked me to just sort of 128 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 6: talk about too. So the first one was just a 129 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 6: really simple walked outside after seeing my first unexplained thing 130 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 6: in the sky at Christmas. So it was a few 131 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 6: months later, and I shone a powerful torch card a 132 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 6: thrower into the sky, just drawing a little circle, and 133 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 6: three lights just from nowhere literally converged into the circle 134 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 6: and then faded out. That was the first one. The 135 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 6: second one, which is by far my best one that 136 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 6: I had seen, was well coming back from Balmain, heading 137 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 6: towards the city and my daughter said to me, Daddy, 138 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 6: what's that? And I said where she pointed, And I 139 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 6: floated the car when I saw what she was looking at, 140 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 6: and I just threw it up to a complete stop. 141 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 6: So it was to the left hand side of the 142 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 6: fish market. There's a block of flat that was done 143 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 6: up maybe seven or eight years ago. The brick to 144 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 6: start is right on the freeway and to the left 145 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 6: of that there was a queue. It was about two 146 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 6: meters by two meters by two meters. It was covered 147 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 6: in primary colored panels, browns, bronzes, silvers, gold. Had two 148 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 6: strange looking antenna that came out from the bottom on 149 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 6: the right hand side in an L shape that went 150 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 6: down maybe four hundred five hundred mil on a half 151 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 6: a met I don't know. Anyway, we just we literally 152 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 6: sat there. We didn't care about the traffic that it 153 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 6: was like if there was going to be a car accident, 154 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 6: that was the day r So you just stopped. 155 00:07:59,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: In the middle of the rain. 156 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: It was this thing hovering or was what was it doing? 157 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I was literally hovering. It was about two 158 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 6: thirds of the way up on the height of the 159 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 6: building forty meters to the left. And I said to 160 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 6: my daughter, can you see these streams, darling? She said no, Daddy, 161 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 6: And I said it was an incredibly windy day. And 162 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 6: I said, is it moving? And she said no, Daddy. 163 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 6: Still is anything. So it wasn't a kais so it 164 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 6: wasn't tethered in any way. 165 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: Wasn't an installation. 166 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, so my daughter my son was going, daddy, where 167 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 6: are you look here? What are you looking at? My 168 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 6: daughter's going, He's just there, can't you see? 169 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: He couldn't see it. 170 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 6: He couldn't see it, but then all of a sudden 171 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 6: he said, oh, I can see it. So I don't 172 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 6: really know if he wanted to join in the conversation 173 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 6: or anyway. So that was That was all interesting. But 174 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 6: what was incredible was the heat coming off this thing. 175 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 6: I said, can you see all those wavy lines, darling? 176 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 6: She said, yes, Daddy. The heat signature was going all 177 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 6: the way to the building. It wasn't enveloping the building, 178 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 6: but it was definitely hitting the building. And we sat 179 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 6: there for a few minutes. The battery out of my 180 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 6: phone just drained went from it was almost flat anyway, 181 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 6: but it just disappeared. 182 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 3: So you couldn't get a shot of it. 183 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: Couldn't get a photograph always the way, isn't it that 184 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: you can never get the shot? 185 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 4: Fascinating? That's maybe they go to certain people. 186 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: Maybe people who are open to it. See it that 187 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: your son maybe couldn't see it and others could. 188 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, closed minded people, fascinating, fascinating 189 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 6: Jonesy and Amanda's gaenation