Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms brought to you by Kata. This is
Speaker 1: the Flex in Frooms Summer Sessions Podcast. Hey, spitty pies,
Speaker 1: welcome to Flex and Frooms the Summer Podcast. We are
Speaker 1: getting near it into continentally, so we actually aren't in
Speaker 1: studio and for good reason. Work life balance is real.
Speaker 1: We are entitled to a holiday just like you. If
Speaker 1: you're not having one, I'm so sorry. But in order
Speaker 1: to celebrate us and you, we're going to go back
Speaker 1: through our favorite moments of the party. There's been plenty,
Speaker 1: mind you, they get lost in the podcast sometimes, but
Speaker 1: we're here to revive them.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be talking about the sixteen three passes, a
Speaker 2: dating dilemma, and I'm going to keep it real quick
Speaker 2: with my arm wrestler Planet Karen Journey.
Speaker 1: We've spoken about session of Karen well yeah the first time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first Karen ten instances since then. But yeah,
Speaker 2: let's get to it Flex and Frooms. Now, I want
Speaker 2: to tell you a little tiny story, so if you
Speaker 2: can just close your eyes and open your ears, this
Speaker 2: is a story about a man and woman, which look,
Speaker 2: all my stories are about that.
Speaker 1: I see you rolling your eyes again. During Pride Month,
Speaker 1: it has to start. It has to start.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the title of this one is made a
Speaker 2: really bizarre rule at the start of a relationship and
Speaker 2: now regretting it. Let's get it.
Speaker 1: You know, when you pretend you're like chill, we have
Speaker 1: all ever do that that goes into your dating exactly.
Speaker 1: Start with high maintenance. Pretend you're just this tyrannical freak,
Speaker 1: and then like when they find out you're just like
Speaker 1: an averagely high maintenance person, it's chill. Pull it back.
Speaker 2: It's easy. So here we go. My name's Amy. I'm
Speaker 2: a female twenty three.
Speaker 3: Okay, too many details, get me three year old Amy.
Speaker 3: Let's go two year old Amy. She has been dating
Speaker 3: her boyfriend for three point five years. Her words.
Speaker 2: At the start of the relationship, we both liked each other,
Speaker 2: but weren't head over here for one another, due to
Speaker 2: which we made our relationship somewhat open. The relationship at
Speaker 2: the time wasn't serious, and honestly we both thought it
Speaker 2: wouldn't last, but would give it a shot. One rule
Speaker 2: we decided on was that if we slept with somebody else,
Speaker 2: that the other partner would get a free pass to
Speaker 2: sleep around that amount of time. We made this rule
Speaker 2: so that we could try our best to see if
Speaker 2: this relationship works or not. In a few months, I
Speaker 2: developed major feelings for him, as one does, and the
Speaker 2: same goes for him. We never officially killed the rule. Today,
Speaker 2: at dinner time, I jokingly told my boyfriend how dumb
Speaker 2: we were at the start of the relationship to make
Speaker 2: such a stupid rule. I saw him going from normal
Speaker 2: to extremely frazzled within seconds. He told me that he
Speaker 2: thought we were still in an open relationship and that
Speaker 2: I had sixteen free pass According to him, he did
Speaker 2: nothing wrong since we didn't decide otherwise.
Speaker 1: I've been racking them up for us.
Speaker 2: Literally, I think he cheated since we were in a
Speaker 2: committed relationship a few months in. I feel sick to
Speaker 2: my stomach right now thinking of what he has done.
Speaker 2: He's saying that he loves me and wants his relationship
Speaker 2: to work, and that I can use my passes and
Speaker 2: then we can close the relationship back up. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to sleep with Randos, but I also
Speaker 2: want this relationship. But I'm also disgusted by my botriend.
Speaker 2: What should I do? Does at count as cheating? I
Speaker 2: love Amy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm gross out, what a feral beasts? But
Speaker 1: also I love him. That's my man. I'm a stick
Speaker 1: beside him.
Speaker 2: Stick beside my feral, dirty beast. She wants to know
Speaker 2: is this cheating? And am I okay to be disgusted
Speaker 2: because she's in a position. We've all been there.
Speaker 1: She doesn't leave me. No, no, no no. If you've
Speaker 1: been there, say so.
Speaker 2: I haven't actually been there either, I'm just trying.
Speaker 1: To relate, Okay, got it.
Speaker 2: Some people have been there where they find out that
Speaker 2: a partner's cheating. They are disgusted in them, absolutely foul,
Speaker 2: but they still love them, and it puts you really
Speaker 2: between a rock and a hard place. So do you
Speaker 2: think was he cheating?
Speaker 1: No, it's a miscommunication.
Speaker 2: This is a pretty diabolical miscommunication.
Speaker 1: What were you talking about? For three and a half years,
Speaker 1: we just didn't bring it back up, Like things just
Speaker 1: don't peter out. I mean, you entered the relationship with
Speaker 1: a very specific dynamic, right. I feel like that would
Speaker 1: have been a couple of chats being like, let's just
Speaker 1: be open ish, and then you were just you continued
Speaker 1: being open with an extra layer of intimacy that maybe
Speaker 1: made Amy think that they were monogamous, which makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Is it cheating? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: But it all goes back to if she feels it's cheating,
Speaker 1: it's cheating. But I'm sure he could justify his way
Speaker 1: out of it to be like no, no, no no, because
Speaker 1: you said we were open, So if you if it changed,
Speaker 1: why didn't you tell me? I feel like right now
Speaker 1: she just gotta have a conversation about like, so can
Speaker 1: we be close? Like do you want to just be
Speaker 1: with just me? But also I think for me personally,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to imagine what I would do. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I could come back from that. It's not
Speaker 1: just the cheating, it's being on completely different pages. She's
Speaker 1: like here being like me and my number one monogamous
Speaker 1: man and laying is just us together, And he's like,
Speaker 1: that's my amy. We date, But I'm dating Jesse and
Speaker 1: Becky and Shela and I love them. That tectic. I
Speaker 1: would just have too many questions and answers. I don't
Speaker 1: want the answers.
Speaker 2: To I just say dump him, because if there was
Speaker 2: nothing like the whole reason why open relationships exist is
Speaker 2: for that reason they are open, open of communication. Open
Speaker 2: channels of routing.
Speaker 1: But they're twenty What do you mean they were twenty
Speaker 1: when they had this chat twenty three? They're twenty three
Speaker 1: now dating for three and a half years.
Speaker 2: I don't think you should be able to use your
Speaker 2: age as an excuse. I think she got a dump in.
Speaker 2: This is flex and Rooms on KEDA.
Speaker 1: It's not every day I read or see information that
Speaker 1: truly leaves me just at a loss for words. But
Speaker 1: nothing rendered me speechless more than seeing a TikTok video
Speaker 1: of this girl documenting her experience living in a seventy
Speaker 1: person sharehouse. I'm sorry, seven zero. I don't even know
Speaker 1: the mechanics of how many bedrooms a house needs to
Speaker 1: have to house seventy people.
Speaker 4: Okay, so this is a day in the life of
Speaker 4: someone who lives in a seventy person house in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: That's someone being me, a twenty four year old that
Speaker 2: lives in a bunk bed.
Speaker 4: Anyway, this is the singkroom. It's a room full of sinks.
Speaker 4: It's right across from my bedroom, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Some people have sinks in their rooms, but not me.
Speaker 1: Somebody left a comment and said, if you pay more
Speaker 1: than one hundred dollars in rent. That's outrageous. She made
Speaker 1: a reply video.
Speaker 4: Okay, this comment is killing me because in what world
Speaker 4: is anyone paying one hundred dollars for rent? Even with
Speaker 4: seventy people?
Speaker 2: Like maybe if this was in Wyoming, But I.
Speaker 4: Live in say Francisco, and it's really expensive over here.
Speaker 4: But the biggest question I have been getting is how
Speaker 4: much do I pay in rent?
Speaker 2: Which is very valid.
Speaker 4: I do feel like I have to explain myself, though,
Speaker 4: so let's get into that. Okay, So there's singles, doubles,
Speaker 4: and triples, although I don't know any I think there's
Speaker 4: like three people living in a triple right now. I
Speaker 4: don't know anyone else, so I'm not sure how many.
Speaker 1: Triples there are.
Speaker 4: So it's mostly singles and doubles. Private rooms right now
Speaker 4: are going for sixty fifty in UP.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm that at double.
Speaker 4: And double rooms are starting at eleven fifty right now.
Speaker 2: That's one extensive.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: When she said seventy persons share house, I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: like creative commune. I'm thinking about ways that could make sense,
Speaker 1: like maybe there's do you know, thirty bedrooms or something
Speaker 1: or it's feeling a bit like midsummer where there are
Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, bunk beds in a room,
Speaker 1: very camp five, and I thought, maybe it's a temporary
Speaker 1: situation where you get on your feet, that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: or UNI accommodation, and she's just lying about it, like
Speaker 1: you live in a UNI household. No, no, no, she
Speaker 1: lives in a functioning house that was built to accommodate
Speaker 1: seventy people and has sink rooms and sinks in rooms.
Speaker 1: The thing that gets me is sis is paying premium
Speaker 1: prices to be there. I know she says that San
Speaker 1: Francisco is expensive, but if you're paying two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty US dollars or maybe around three hundred Australian dollars
Speaker 1: a week to live with sixty nine other people, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry that there has to be a better way
Speaker 1: to manage your money.
Speaker 2: I just like, what is it seventy other are they
Speaker 2: all certain?
Speaker 1: Age?
Speaker 2: Like what is the building? What are the She only
Speaker 2: showed us the sinks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is the thing, like she later on
Speaker 1: in the video, you do see her sitting in her
Speaker 1: living room, which is not that big by the way,
Speaker 1: I saw two four seedar couches and one three seater
Speaker 1: and they're all sitting around having a kiki, enjoying each
Speaker 1: other's company. I think it is meant to be like
Speaker 1: a creative household or for like you know, young explants
Speaker 1: implants whichever, people just like you know, joining the city
Speaker 1: for the first time. But I'm like, there was no
Speaker 1: better deal for you in seventy people. I don't want
Speaker 1: to sound insensitive because as someone who hasn't lived with
Speaker 1: anyone since my family and the one friend I lived
Speaker 1: with for a couple of months, and you currently live
Speaker 1: in a sharehouse as well, we have different approaches to this.
Speaker 1: So in the podcast, we're going to discuss our own
Speaker 1: housing situations and also try and think about if there's
Speaker 1: any circumstance we would be comfortable living with sixty nine
Speaker 1: other people. Some this girl hasn't even met. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There are some people in the room.
Speaker 1: I've never seen them before.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, Nah, I don't trust it. I
Speaker 2: don't like it.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms on kit. We're going to
Speaker 1: do what we do best, which is argue, but not
Speaker 1: with each other. With the ideas of the internet. I
Speaker 1: have a theory that the most silliest debates can be
Speaker 1: found on Rihanna's Www. Rihanna's Internet, But this one in
Speaker 1: particular is really grinding our gears.
Speaker 2: You know what's Rihanna's Internet?
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Yes? Oh my goodness, Like the Internet
Speaker 1: is Rihanna's Internet, It's Beyonce's Internet, It's Michelle Obama's Internet. Okay,
Speaker 1: you don't get that, Like it's the most iconic people
Speaker 1: who are solely responsible for keeping the Internet afloat. It's theirs.
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Is this like it's my Instagram?
Speaker 2: Okay? Can someone explain this to me? Is that like
Speaker 2: a well known yeah? Oh god, well favorite boom?
Speaker 1: Take it away.
Speaker 2: I got on an airplane last Wednesday to come home
Speaker 2: from Melbourne.
Speaker 1: Okay, jet Ce, no need's a flex on us. Okay,
Speaker 1: domestic travel.
Speaker 2: That is me, And I was sat in the middle seat.
Speaker 2: Now I make an effort not to be sat in
Speaker 2: the middle seat. Do you really I do?
Speaker 1: Did you pre book the seats or did you leave
Speaker 1: it up to chance?
Speaker 2: Well, long story short, I didn't get to choose this time.
Speaker 2: Usually I always choose.
Speaker 1: Why did windows like long.
Speaker 2: Story seven f every time? Really? Yeah? I just didn't
Speaker 2: get to choose. It was easter time, like high rates,
Speaker 2: et cetera. So I'm sitting in the middle, and this
Speaker 2: strikes panic in my very being because I know that
Speaker 2: I'm going to be sat in between two people.
Speaker 1: Gross.
Speaker 2: And my biggest issue is that I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people don't understand a plane etiquette.
Speaker 1: Bush pigs, a lot of them airborne push airborne bush pigs.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting down and two men come to sit
Speaker 2: next to me. By nature of their biology biology, they're
Speaker 2: bigger than me.
Speaker 1: Man spreaders. But either way, anyway, short kings exist. Okay,
Speaker 1: short kings do exist. Short tia kings, they do exist,
Speaker 1: and they do fly frequentlys they.
Speaker 2: Do anyway, And I'm sitting down and my biggest thing
Speaker 2: on an airplane is to get the space that I
Speaker 2: paid for. So I don't know if you know this, flex,
Speaker 2: but if you're sitting in the middle seat, you have
Speaker 2: ownership over the two armrests exactly a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't know that. Like I talked to my mum when
Speaker 2: I got home and said how I had to fight
Speaker 2: for my two arms to be on the arm rest,
Speaker 2: and she said, what do you mean? I said, honey
Speaker 2: doesn't travel often.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a freaking flyer.
Speaker 2: So we can both agree that here's the thing.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to not stand by your side
Speaker 1: in solidarity, because I would love to be on your
Speaker 1: side for this one. I get it in theory, the
Speaker 1: window gets the window, you get the best view, the
Speaker 1: aisle gets easy access to the bathrooms and first dipped
Speaker 1: with food. The middle seat hypothetically should get both arm rests,
Speaker 1: but in my short time in the middle seat, I
Speaker 1: don't want both arm rests. I feel quite comfortable, arms folded,
Speaker 1: palms on knees, not touching anyone. Because what's worse than
Speaker 1: having your space invaded on a plane is invading two
Speaker 1: people's space. And that's what happens when you're on in
Speaker 1: a middle seat requesting the arm rests. It's very like
Speaker 1: Butcher mask aggressive. It's not delicate. It's not delicate at all.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for that part of my personality to shine
Speaker 2: via two elbows.
Speaker 1: So you fought them.
Speaker 2: I just am like very insistent on having them there,
Speaker 2: and I will not to the point where like I'm
Speaker 2: not even touching my phone because they've got to both
Speaker 2: do there.
Speaker 1: I'm very stubborn with their armrests. I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: would have seen this coming.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: I feel like aesthetically one would assume that I'd be
Speaker 1: fighting people for for what's rightly mine the two arm rests,
Speaker 1: and you would be doing the palm on knee.
Speaker 2: Hell no, none of this.
Speaker 1: I think we can both agree that if you're sitting
Speaker 1: in the middle seat, on a technicality, both armrests should
Speaker 1: be yours to use freely. But I can understand why
Speaker 1: middle seat means no armrests as well.
Speaker 2: Strongly firmly disagree. So we've talked about horizontal etiquette on
Speaker 2: the plane, have we? Yeah, vertical, Now that's horizontal.
Speaker 1: Oh but I thought you mean verticals like sitting upwards.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's what we're going to do next. Vertical.
Speaker 2: So you're sitting upwards in a chair. What happens when
Speaker 2: you recline? This is a whole new ball game, and
Speaker 2: I don't know the etiquette around reclining. For example, you
Speaker 2: are on the Melbourne to Sydney, you're flying economy.
Speaker 1: I know it very well, do you, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: You decide you're going to recline. You've had a really
Speaker 2: big day to fly and fly out kind of situation.
Speaker 2: Are you reclining?
Speaker 1: The rules are and listen closely, please, there is no
Speaker 1: reclining on a domestic flight, none at all. If it's
Speaker 1: less sorry, let me caveat. If it's a domestic flight
Speaker 1: less than three hours, you cannot recline. It's inappropriate. It's
Speaker 1: savage behavior, It honestly is. The reclining is for the
Speaker 1: comfort of a long haul flight. Right you know you're
Speaker 1: doing your Sydney to Ghana. I'm not sure if you've
Speaker 1: done it before. I have plenty of time. And when
Speaker 1: you're getting to your halfway stop in Dubai, it's been
Speaker 1: thirteen hours. You deserve a recline at about four or
Speaker 1: five hours in you do deserve that. As for a
Speaker 1: domestic a Sydney to Melbourne, a quick one one and
Speaker 1: a half hour, upright, upright. And what a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't utilize enough is the head rest. Use the
Speaker 1: head rest, babe. If you want to relax and you
Speaker 1: need a bit of next support, just use the head
Speaker 1: rest it what's that word I'm looking for? Crunch crunches
Speaker 1: inwards to support the neck. But you don't need to
Speaker 1: be reclining backwards. That being said, though, if I feel
Speaker 1: it on my spirit to recline, and it's been thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm not uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I paid my money and I understand to be the
Speaker 1: person behind the recliner. I get it.
Speaker 2: Also, coughing on a plane ill, it's fun, it's gross.
Speaker 1: Coughing in public.
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