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Speaker 1: On today's show, Anna Paul's Whiteboard on Wheels, bar Bambi,

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Speaker 1: string of one star reviews, Sky Wheatley, Slam's OnlyFans creators,

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Speaker 1: and we get to the bottom of those Tammy Hembro

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Speaker 1: breakup Rumors. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose

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Speaker 1: of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kate Torbert and I'm currently planning my dog's first

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Speaker 1: birthday party. So the theme is first Lap around the

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Speaker 1: Sun because her name is Sonny. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: quite ironic.

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Speaker 2: Have you considered having children well after.

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Speaker 1: This, No, I'm much happier just planning my dog's birthday

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Speaker 1: party at this stage. I was sitting next to my

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Speaker 1: partner Dale when we got the Facebook invite and he

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Speaker 1: couldn't believe. But he's like, is your sister actually serious?

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Speaker 1: Is he coming?

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Speaker 2: Because he hasn't respirlved.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. But I'm Amy Torbert and I'm currently

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Speaker 1: planning my Halloween party. Because it's nearly October. I know,

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Speaker 1: it's so crazy. The decorations are out in full force.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited because you did such a great job

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Speaker 1: last time. You have a lot of decorations. Are you

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Speaker 1: going to be adding anymore? I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be adding any more, but they are going

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Speaker 1: to be placed outside. Now I finally got a big

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Speaker 1: backyard to actually show them off in. Well, I'm Sophie

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Speaker 1: Torbert and I might be becoming your neighbor, Kate. So

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Speaker 1: we have been living probably forty five minutes apart at

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Speaker 1: the moment. But there is a house that's popped up,

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Speaker 1: not on your street, but it pretty much practically is

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Speaker 1: on your street. I know went I looked at the

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Speaker 1: house with you, and it's a minute away. I really

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Speaker 1: want you to get it. I feel like we might

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Speaker 1: have to move the podcasting studio. It's not a fair

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Speaker 1: on your partners to be living a minute away. Well,

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Speaker 1: Branda doesn't seem to care. Yeah, Rece doesn't care. I

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Speaker 1: think it'll be more convenient. We're sick of having to

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Speaker 1: drive all the way down to Grange. Can I have

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Speaker 1: a couple of sugar cakee I feel like you stock

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Speaker 1: your house a lot better than I. I'll be over

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Speaker 1: there all the time, so you.

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Speaker 2: Need to come live near me.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm open to either. I mean, if you guys

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Speaker 1: start looking for houses for me. This is literally a

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Speaker 1: big whiteboard.

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Speaker 2: Literally, it's a big driving whiteboard.

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Speaker 1: You just wipe it off. Anna Paul has unveiled her

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Speaker 1: latest luxury car, which has an unexpected feature for fans. Kate,

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Speaker 1: can you tell us what's so special about Anna's car?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 1: I have never seen anything like it is. It is

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Speaker 1: essentially a whiteboard on wheels. So Anna's new car is

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Speaker 1: custom made by Mercedes Benz and it is of course white.

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Speaker 1: So the car has been painted with specially formulated paint

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Speaker 1: to allow people to draw on it with whiteboard markers.

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Speaker 1: And there's this really cool little pen compartment on the

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Speaker 1: side window and it says Anna Paul, leave me a message.

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Speaker 2: Kiss hug kiss hug.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is of course because her other car was

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Speaker 1: quite striking. It as this like bright green color, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of her fans knew that it was her

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Speaker 1: car because she'd always put it on TikTok and fans

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Speaker 1: would always leave notes for her on her car. So

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Speaker 1: this has really taken it to another level. It just

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Speaker 1: reminds me of the cars that get really dusty and

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Speaker 1: people just write clean or boost.

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Speaker 1: Well, Anna and her brother Adie were going on TikTok

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Speaker 1: how you can just ride on it and it washes

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Speaker 1: off really easily. So they are asking fans if they

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Speaker 1: they said every three days they're going to be wiping

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Speaker 1: it down and starting fresh. She imagine if you had

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Speaker 1: just start like hook he gets out of poses writing

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Speaker 1: a permanent texture. I know, well, the thing is, I

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Speaker 1: actually really love this idea. Because Anna was talking about

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Speaker 4: This is my dream car, and I wouldn't have it

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to make it interactive for all of us.

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Speaker 4: So it's like our car. I wanted to be like,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be like, get away from my car.

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Speaker 1: I want to be like, come touch my car, do

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Speaker 1: everything to it, because you're the reason I even have it.

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Speaker 4: So draw on it.

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Speaker 1: Please.

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Speaker 4: It's fast, It's for everybody.

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Speaker 1: This is a fantastic stroke of genius. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it was made up by Anna or someone closely

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Speaker 1: working with Anna in some sort of pr team. But

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Speaker 1: the whole idea of this of community, you help me

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Speaker 1: get this, We've got this together. We don't see gratitude

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Speaker 1: usually on this level by influencers, and it's really refreshing

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Speaker 1: to see the car costs four hundred thousand. That's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure she is very thankful for it. It is a

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Speaker 1: just get jealous or they kind of bury their heads

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Speaker 1: subtle way. Are we going to see all of our

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Speaker 1: teen audience trying to copy it? Like there's suddenly all

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Speaker 1: are blackboards. Well, the whole thing this is a stroke

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Speaker 1: they're like, oh, we help do it together.

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Speaker 2: On it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that I love it, but I

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Speaker 1: involved in everyone knowing where Anna Paul is. I hope

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Speaker 1: she does have a secondary car, because it could become

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Speaker 1: she previously drove a very obvious car. It was Neon

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Speaker 1: me too is a lot of people could use it

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Speaker 1: Because if you're like, oh, yeah, I'm just like drawing

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Speaker 1: But even the fact that, as you said, it's so

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Speaker 1: her house exactly because we saw with Chloe and Mitch

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Speaker 1: when Chloe's car was someone tried to steal that.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: Also the fact that she is a sex worker on

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Speaker 1: only Fans, you know, there might be some users on

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Speaker 1: think that the relationship is more than it is and

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Speaker 1: as you say, stalk her. So I thought it was

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Speaker 3: So for my research, this is the oji Sizzler's comment

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Speaker 1: Okay, So prolific nightclub owner Nick Russian and his influencer

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Speaker 1: wife Rosalia claim their venue is the victim of an

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Speaker 1: orchestrated campaign. The trendy night spot called bar Bambi, which

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Speaker 1: is frequented by the who's who of Melbourne, has been

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Speaker 1: hit by a string of one star Google reviews slamming

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Speaker 1: the food, prices and service. Now, the restaurant opened last

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Speaker 1: so it was only last November that bar Bambi opened,

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Speaker 1: Nick and Rosalia are actually threatening legal action after one

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Speaker 1: TikTok user who goes by the name Dodgy Mole, uploaded

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Speaker 1: name is actually Ruby. So in her review, Ruby wrote

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Speaker 3: Now, this one's a little bit lengthy, but pretty much

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Speaker 3: they were complaining about the fact that they'd booked for

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Speaker 3: to take you seriously. So bar Bamby liked to respond,

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Speaker 3: sorry that you felt insecure. Sorry, I can't afford dior.

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Speaker 4: Sorry.

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Speaker 3: This is a full view of the response they gave

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Speaker 1: So Ruby finished her video by then sharing a screenshot

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Speaker 1: of her dming Nick Russian and calling him an absolute pig.

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Speaker 1: And I also want to point out for anyone who

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Speaker 1: doesn't understand the Smorgi's reference, it was a Melbourne chain

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Speaker 1: Bambie owners, they keep hitting back at people on the

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Speaker 1: Google reviews and they have actually referred to Smorgi's a

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Speaker 1: couple of times. I've seen to have an issue with Smorgy's.

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Speaker 1: So another person wrote on Google reviews, worse food I've

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Speaker 1: had in a long time. Seventy five dollars for a

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Speaker 1: set menu of nothing, took over half an hour to

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Speaker 1: eleven people. We recommend to stay away. If I could

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Speaker 1: as though Sizzler or Smorgy's maybe more suited for your taste.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the review. This kind of reminds me

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Speaker 1: Some people might see these reviews and go, great, this

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Speaker 1: photographed together, but I think it shows some cracks in

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00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 1: a relationship when people are unfriending and leaving passive aggressive

436
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 1: comments or not liking each other's photos. Reese Hawkin seems

437
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 1: like he wants a slice of the attention. He has

438
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 1: been in Bally as we reported on before. Well he

439
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 1: was on the trip with kids, which again I think

440
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people were like, oh, maybe they'll get

441
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 1: back together, but I think who would want them back together?

442
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,640
Speaker 1: I think that's where a lot of speculation has deemed from.

443
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 1: Isn't it this Barley trip we're being there? Well, ree

444
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 1: seems like he's got another girl on his mind. So

445
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: there's rumors that he and an Instagram model and also

446
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,159
Speaker 1: only fans star called Bailey's Scarlett and are an item.

447
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 1: So they both posted identical photos of smoothie bowls in Balley,

448
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 1: making it quite clear that they were together. So she

449
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 1: has one hundred and sixty two thousand followers, and she

450
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 1: also looks a lot like his ex wife London going

451
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 1: well were rumored ex wife again. They haven't confirmed it.

452
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 1: They've just been playing around with what London's been playing

453
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: around with her engagement ring. And I think that's probably

454
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Speaker 1: why people are looking out for whether Tammy's wearing it,

455
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: because London has been trying to make such a clear

456
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,719
Speaker 1: message her and Resa together without actually saying it. I

457
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: do love when people spot those similar instance stories because it's, yeah,

458
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: it's very like for you to be following both of them,

459
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,719
Speaker 1: like you know, you've got to be finding a lot

460
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: of people to notice that sort of stuff, don't you. Yeah,

461
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: when you put them next to each other, it was

462
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: clear that she shot the Smoothie bolt from one side

463
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: and he photographed it from the other. She has been

464
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: liking a lot of Reese's photos as well. I dare

465
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Speaker 1: to say it's probably just a holiday romance because Spailey

466
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: actually lives in Bali.

467
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Speaker 4: So to all you women who thought it was such

468
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Speaker 4: a good idea to comment to my video nasty.

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Speaker 1: Things, this goes out to you. I am gonna find

470
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Speaker 1: your husband's today. Sky Wheatley has opened up about her

471
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: views on OnlyFans this week, appearing alongside Michael Finch in

472
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: his most recent vlog, Sky admitted she was fuming about

473
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: the platform. Let's take a listen to what she said.

474
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: Let me get me dial go out and fuck meself?

475
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Speaker 5: Why are you doing that?

476
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 6: I actually thought about making a video about it last

477
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,479
Speaker 6: night because and like I'm fuming about what like just

478
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 6: saying like, oh, you know, I like to make my

479
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 6: money by approving in a product and loving a product

480
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 6: organically and sharing it with my audience rather than fucking

481
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 6: myself for the fucking dildo and making money off and

482
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 6: and like ending marriages. Your only girls would go through

483
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 6: their boyfriend's phone and see that they're secretly subscribed to

484
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 6: girls only fans, and that's the end of a marriage,

485
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Speaker 6: right there.

486
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Speaker 1: Actually ludicrous? Ah Well, absolutely, Darling, absolutely.

487
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Speaker 4: A root, Darly a root, freedom of speech, freedom to talk.

488
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Speaker 1: I was quite taken aback when I heard this, and

489
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Speaker 1: the fact that no one else has picked up on it,

490
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: because Holly and Jimmy from the Bachelor recently got in

491
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: hot water after making comments about OnlyFans that probably weren't

492
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: even this bad war. Well, Jimmy and Holly, they said

493
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: that only fans wasn't for them, and that they suggested

494
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: that any reality TV stars who were thinking of signing

495
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: up for only fans perhaps should sign up and do

496
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 1: it charity work. I mean, they were quite ridiculous comments

497
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: to make, but I mean this is taking it up

498
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: a notch, which is a very Sky Wheatly comment. You

499
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: can see she's put it out into the universe, not

500
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: really thought much about it, and it's appeared in a vlog.

501
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: I think after the reception that Holly and Jimmy got,

502
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of influencers and reality stars have

503
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: sort of stepped away from sharing their views about this platform. Well,

504
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't think many have shared their views on the platform.

505
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: I think at the moment, the overwhelming view or public

506
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: conversation is that it's a very positive platform. People have

507
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: been very sex positive towards it. So I think it

508
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: is quite unusual to hear public figures speaking out about

509
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: only fans in this way, particularly someone like Sky Wheatley.

510
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: Did surprise me that she would hold that view about OnlyFans. Yeah, yeah,

511
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: I was pretty surprised as well, Sophie. I thought Sky

512
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: was a little bit more progressed then she came across

513
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: in this video. And I find it particularly interesting that

514
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: these sort of og old school influencers suddenly have a

515
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: problem with this new breed of influencer because previously influencers

516
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: like Sky and Michael Finch and Shining Grumman, they've been

517
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: put down for basically selling their soul in terms of

518
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: putting their name to any product, and the word influencer

519
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: is quite derived now, and it's almost like they're now

520
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 1: looking down on influencers that make their money off only fans.

521
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: And it seems to be that there are.

522
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: These two groups of influencers now, with the og ones

523
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: thinking they're a little bit better. Yeah, like even Sky saying,

524
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'd rather get paid for promoting products and

525
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: fucking myself with the dec She was like products that

526
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: I organically like. It's like common we all know that

527
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: brands approach you and yes, there is a part where

528
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: you have to like the product, but I don't think

529
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: that's been the case with every product Sky has promoted.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think perhaps she is being

531
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 1: critical though, because influencers do get criticized so heavily for

532
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: what brands they associate with, and as you say, Kate,

533
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: for not really doing much but earning a lot of money.

534
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: So yes, it could be hypocritical that she's having a

535
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: go at sex workers on OnlyFans. The thing is, we're

536
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: all very progressive and we live in a bit of

537
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 1: a bubble where we think the only fans creators are

538
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: very accepted, but I think there still is very much

539
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: a stigma around what they do, if people want to

540
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: admit it or not. So at the moment, it's seen

541
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: as oh, wow, you earn so much money from it,

542
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: But it's only the people that are in the top

543
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: echelon of these people. There are very negative impacts for

544
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: other people that have only fans. Firstly, a lot of

545
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: creators don't earn any money. There would be a big

546
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: revenge porn sort of issues going on from the platform.

547
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: People's lives have probably been ruined by people leaking videos

548
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: of them to their employers. So to say that there

549
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: isn't a downside of it and refer that these people

550
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: are making easy money is quite small minded.

551
00:25:59,040 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: Now.

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00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: Michael Finn which didn't really weigh into the discussion, but

553
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: I noticed he said freedom of speech and freedom to

554
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: talk after Sky made her comments. What did you guys

555
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: make of that commentary about freedom of speech? Well, I

556
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: mean obviously that I'm all for freedom of speech, but

557
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: I do think that there is a way about going

558
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: about things, and I think what Sky said was extremely

559
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: condescending and offensive, and I almost felt like it came

560
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: from a place of she seemed to be personally offended

561
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: about something. I mean, she did go on about how

562
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: only fans creators ruin marriages. I think that's very unfair

563
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: to place on someone that does sex work. It's actually

564
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: the person's husbands that seeking out this content. If that

565
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: they is something that their wife does not want to do,

566
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: it's actually their fault, not the an. I one hundred

567
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: percent agree with you, Kate, But as you said, I

568
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: feel like there are discussions about only fans that haven't

569
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: been had publicly because people are really scared of offending

570
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: anybody that is a sex worker on only fans, and

571
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Speaker 1: I think there are conversations to be had around the

572
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: platform and potentially some of the downsides to it.

573
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: But that's not what Sky.

574
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: Was talking about. It just sounded like she was annoyed

575
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: that she either isn't earning as much money as onlyfan

576
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: creators and has to slog it out by promoting products,

577
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: or it seems like potentially someone in her life has

578
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: been looking at this content and it's created dramas for

579
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: someone else. Going back to the whole freedom of speech

580
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: comment by Michael Finch, this one did resonate a little

581
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: bit with me because I feel like at the moment

582
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: there's only really one acceptable way to feel about things

583
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: in most arguments, not just the sex worker debate conversation.

584
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: This is on the internet.

585
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: This is on the Internet, and I feel like it's

586
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: becoming a bit of an echo chamber where there's only

587
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: one acceptable way to think about something, and if anyone

588
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: comes in and has a good debate about it, that

589
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: person is canceled or ruined or gone. And I think

590
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: if you think about the way that universities used to work,

591
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: it was where a lot of scholars were bringing two

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00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: different opinions or even three different opinions to the table

593
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: and people debated those opinions. Now it seems wrong for

594
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: people to debate. And I don't I'm not suggesting that

595
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: Sky Whetley here is having a scholarly debate or an

596
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: educated debate about anything, but I think this whole freedom

597
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: of speech conversation is quite interesting to look at. What's

598
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: interesting that Michael even chose to put this on his platform.

599
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: I saw smile when she said it because it's just

600
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: something that Sky would say.

601
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: Isn't it just get herself in trouble?

602
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: Well, I wonder if he's doing it to get a

603
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: bit more of engagement, to create a controversy.

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00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 1: His vlog was actually lovely to watch. It was og

606
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: Michael Finch. It was his first video in three months,

607
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: and besides that controversy over the common it was a lot.

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00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: If you'd watch that back and think should we put

609
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: this out there? Because he probably asked her. I have

610
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: heard that they know they do ask one another is

611
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: just okay to share. But the thing is Sky usually

612
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: says a lot of stupid stuff on an Instagram story,

613
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: and you can more understand how that gets put up.

614
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: There's a real instantaneous nature of instat stories. But this

615
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: has obviously been filmed, then edited, then approved by Sky,

616
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: so she clearly stands by it. Maybe it's how some

617
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: other influences are feeling like, you don't know the conversations

618
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: they have again, but it's interesting, yeah, that these two

619
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: camps of influencers are being formed, and I want to

620
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: know how that's going to play out moving forward, because

621
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: a lot of there's this secretive nature of only fans,

622
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: as you say, where it's not really spoken about because

623
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: you can't even say OnlyFans on Instagram without your without

624
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: the content being flagged. So again, well everyone's saying I'll

625
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: go to my of like that's why people talk in

626
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: codes and you can't link directly. I believe too, only

627
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: fans you have to put it on a link tree.

628
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: So there are obviously steps in place to make only

629
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: fans a bit of a secret thing on apps like Instagram.

630
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: Do we think that there is a little bit of

631
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: jealousy because at the moment, you would have to say

632
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: that Anna pol is probably one of the largest influencers

633
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: in the country. We've seen her closed down, you know,

634
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: Maules with all of her fans there, and there's a

635
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: lot of these influencers who are getting a little bit

636
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: older and probably feeling a little bit more irrel maybe

637
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: that they wish that they had only fans.

638
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's an age thing, but maybe it's.

639
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: Because it's not their age, but they've been in the

640
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: business no longer and they're probably becoming you know, how

641
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: else can I get attention? And also they can't make

642
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: the money the only fans because the top only Fans

643
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: creators can make That's what I was going to say.

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00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: I do think that there would be jealousy and the

645
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: amount of money they're only fans creators are able to

646
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: bring in, and the fact that it's subscription based, like

647
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: for Sky, she's got her apparel line, it would cost

648
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: a lot of money to actually buy the stock for

649
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: that subscription bases means that fund's always coming through it

650
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: and not having to go out and seek new clients

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Speaker 1: and new sponsors to work with. Yeah. Now, Sky's comments

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Speaker 1: on only Fans it got me thinking about all the

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Speaker 1: controversy online involving Only Fans creator Roxy Style. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if you guys have been keeping up to date,

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Speaker 1: but Roxy recently went viral because she decided to start

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Speaker 1: reaching out on social media to the husbands of women

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Speaker 1: who had left her nasty comments on TikTok. So this

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Speaker 1: all started when Roxy shared a TikTok captioned do you

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Speaker 1: tell your husband he's handsome? Because I will, and the

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Speaker 1: video went viral and Roxy copped a lot of nasty

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Speaker 1: comments from married women calling her a home wrecker. So

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Speaker 1: she decided to seek revenge and started messaging the women's husbands.

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Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to what she said.

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Speaker 4: One of the videos I made saying have you called

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Speaker 4: your husband handsome today? Or has your wife called you

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Speaker 4: handsome today? Has blown up and everyone hates me. But

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Speaker 4: I want you to think about this. If I could

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Speaker 4: come in and tell your man that he's handsome, and

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Speaker 4: just doing that would take the possibility of taking him

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Speaker 4: from you. He's not the one very he should be

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Speaker 4: ignoring me. He should be rude to me. He should

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Speaker 4: say no, I have a wife, not sorry, I have

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Speaker 4: a wife. It should be straight up no, I have

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Speaker 4: a wife. And if that's not the case, then girl,

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Speaker 4: I consider it fair.

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Speaker 5: Game and going to be main. So all of you

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Speaker 5: women that commented on my posts saying nasty things, I'm

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Speaker 5: coming for you and your profiles, and I've already looked

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Speaker 5: at a lot of your men, and I've already scoped

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Speaker 5: out which ones I'm going to take.

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Speaker 1: I did agree with Roxy when she said that if

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Speaker 1: someone messages your partner something flirtatious, they should respond and

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Speaker 1: be like, I'm married, do not message me, or just

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Speaker 1: flat out not respond. It really is on the partner.

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Speaker 1: I found the whole thing rather gross though, because it's

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Speaker 1: like she's trying to trap these men into a situation

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Speaker 1: and it's all out of revenge for these women. So

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Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty fair game. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like these women have been pretty critical of what

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Speaker 1: she does and her career. She's a content creator, and

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Speaker 1: while I don't think people should be trolled, I think

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Speaker 1: you've got to understand that when you put yourself out

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Speaker 1: there and produce controversial content, which is what she did, saying, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell your husband that he's hands and

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Speaker 1: that's going to get under a lot of people's skin.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like but at the end of the.

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Speaker 1: Day, she's trying to bring home the message that it's

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Speaker 1: actually not her fault. If men want to watch her,

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Speaker 1: not only fans, it's the men in that relationship as well.

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Speaker 1: It's up to them whether they want to watch that

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Speaker 1: sort of content and if they want to respond to her,

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Speaker 1: because most people, if you're in a good marriage or

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Speaker 1: relationship or whatever, the partners would not be responding or engage.

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Speaker 2: I completely agree with.

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Speaker 1: Someone cheats on you and everyone blames the other woman

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Speaker 1: when it's actually your part. And the thing is there

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Speaker 1: might be some couples who actually subscribe to OnlyFans account,

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Speaker 1: but together there's a cool with it and they don't mind.

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Speaker 1: But if it is an issue and the wife has

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Speaker 1: said I do not want you subscribing to this content,

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Speaker 1: he goes and do it.

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Speaker 2: That's on him, that's not.

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Speaker 1: On my I completely agree, but I just thought it

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Speaker 1: was a bit gross how she went about it trying

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Speaker 1: to I don't know. I felt like it was meddling

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Speaker 1: in people's real lives. I understand that they left her

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Speaker 1: negative comments, but I just think, well, you've got to

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Speaker 1: realize that you've got a platform, you're earning money off it.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you've got to take things like soul that people say.

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Speaker 1: I do get that, but I have to say I

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Speaker 1: was glued to these videos. There's been about ten videos

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Speaker 1: where she's been sharing updates. So I just want to

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Speaker 1: know did they reply?

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Speaker 2: Well, so three out of.

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Speaker 1: The four men she messaged replied what did they reply? Though? Well,

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Speaker 1: one of them he I think the wife must have

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Speaker 1: seen the message, and then she it sounds like she

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Speaker 1: deleted his Instagram account. He then set up a secondary

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Speaker 1: Instagram account and started talking to roxy are you serious?

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Speaker 1: So that Roxy's even shared a phone call with one

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Speaker 1: of the wives. So the wife contacted her and she said,

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Speaker 1: I'm recording this call. And the wife was furious and

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Speaker 1: she said, I'm going to find out where you live.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to sue you.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this conversation got very Jerry Springer all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, But that is all we have time

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Speaker 1: for today. Thank you so much for joining us for

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Speaker 1: this episode. Today's podcast was recorded on the traditional land

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Speaker 1: of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plaines. We pay

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