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Speaker 1: Jump mission with Joins and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: You've watched our next guest get strangled by snakes, jump

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Speaker 2: off cliffs, drink reindeer blood or the usuals, and take

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Speaker 2: the likes of Barack Obama into the wilderness to teach

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Speaker 2: them survival skills. I'm talking, of course about bear Grills.

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Speaker 2: If you want to know why the hell he does it,

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Speaker 2: he has an extraordinary autobiography called Never Give Up. He's

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Speaker 2: joining us now beg Grills.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hey guys, Hey, nice to be with you. It's nice.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's nice to talk to you again. But your autobiography,

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Speaker 3: You've already had an autobiography out before, and you're a

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Speaker 3: pretty young sort of guy. So there's a lot to

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Speaker 3: know about.

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Speaker 1: You, isn't there.

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Speaker 4: Well much and tears I wrote ten years ago, now

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Speaker 4: you know. And I never thought that book would do

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Speaker 4: like it did, you know?

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Speaker 1: Went to number one.

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Speaker 4: It was a great kind of surprise, and I always

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Speaker 4: kind of felt like, I don't want to write anything

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Speaker 4: further than that because it's only going to be downhill.

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Speaker 1: So I always said no, but much.

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Speaker 4: And it's really kind of finished in a way, just

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Speaker 4: as the TV stuff was starting. I've got three sons,

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Speaker 4: you know that always ask me all these kind of

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Speaker 4: stories behind the scenes of running wild and man versus

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Speaker 4: wild and you versus wild, and what it is like

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Speaker 4: that that person and scouting staff and the marines and

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Speaker 4: all this kind of thing. So I kind of thought,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: It's taken me. It took me almost ten years to do.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to write it properly, or want to write

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Speaker 4: every word and really kind.

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Speaker 1: Of be honest and tell the kind of stories.

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Speaker 4: Of you know, the many struggles and failures as well,

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Speaker 4: because I think that's the stuff sometimes, certainly for my

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Speaker 4: family and our boys, you know, they see the good stuff,

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Speaker 4: but they sometimes don't know the many, many kind of

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Speaker 4: failures behind the scenes, and which, as you know, is

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Speaker 4: a part of all of our lives and a part

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Speaker 4: of any any success always comes through the door the

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Speaker 4: many kind of not backs.

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Speaker 2: I suppose is there something innate about wanting to prove

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Speaker 2: ourselves physically? Is that why huge achievers baraka bar My

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Speaker 2: Roger Federer been still a Julia Roberts have signed up

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Speaker 2: with you to go to extraordinary places where you push

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Speaker 2: them beyond their physical limits. They have success on most

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Speaker 2: measures that we look at, and yet they choose to

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Speaker 2: test themselves this way. Is there something innate about needing

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Speaker 2: to physically see how we'd survive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such an interesting point, you say. I think

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Speaker 4: you're right. First of all, these guys don't need the

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Speaker 4: money or the fame. They're not there for that. They're

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Speaker 4: there for something that the wild gives all of us,

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Speaker 4: you know, when we push ourselves there and we face

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Speaker 4: a few kind of scary things, and we push through

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Speaker 4: those rainstorms and that hunger and that fatigue and keep going.

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Speaker 4: And the one universal thing I've seen at the every

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Speaker 4: every end of every episode I've ever done, and every

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Speaker 4: adventure I've ever done, is that kind of glint of

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Speaker 4: pride in an eye, you know, in their eyes, of like,

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Speaker 4: do you know what I did this? And I'm really

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Speaker 4: proud of myself. And it's a great quality. It's a

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Speaker 4: great example of all of us. I think you've kind

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Speaker 4: of you know, never never just get complace to sit

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Speaker 4: in that comfort zone.

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Speaker 1: You know, comfort zones are bad. What it should be

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Speaker 1: called a comfort pit.

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Speaker 3: Real comfort pit. Spikes in your car, like the idea

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Speaker 3: of a comfort pit in your travels. You've eaten a

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Speaker 3: list of incredibly disgusting things like frozen yack eyeballs. You've

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Speaker 3: got the rein deer blood, and you've got bear poo.

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Speaker 3: I'm presuming that's not your own.

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Speaker 4: No, no, yeah, you know listen, survival food isn't going

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Speaker 4: to be pretty. You know, ultimately you need energy if

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Speaker 4: you're going to move, and you sometimes have to dig

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Speaker 4: deep and do the less imaginable stuff than things you

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Speaker 4: might not do at home. But you know that's a

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Speaker 4: heart of well, it's a part of survival for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well, just you know, to the bear poo, was that

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Speaker 3: because there was absolutely nothing else around?

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Speaker 4: What was the well the brepoo was showing how I've

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Speaker 4: been following this big black bear for a while and

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Speaker 4: you know that pretty fast digestion is eating a lot

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Speaker 4: of fruit. And I was just picking the bits of

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Speaker 4: the apple out and giving them a wash and you know,

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Speaker 4: eating those.

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Speaker 1: So it's just being resourceful. I suppose it's a part

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Speaker 1: of survival. I love, not necessarily the bits of apple

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Speaker 1: out of a bears.

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Speaker 2: You'd be a great friend to have over for dinner,

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Speaker 2: because if if you cooked a terrible dinner, you'd say,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's no way I'd let you can play well.

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Speaker 1: Nobody comes round of mind any longer before we come.

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Speaker 1: Who exactly is cooking?

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Speaker 3: Keep bear away from the barbecue and bear grills. This book,

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Speaker 3: Never give Up, is in all good bookstores today, bear grills.

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Speaker 3: It's a treat to catch up with you again.

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Speaker 1: Thank you always nice to be with you guys, and

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Speaker 1: you're doing a great job to come on. Never give Up.

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Speaker 1: I love it and Amanda's