WEBVTT - UNPACKED REALITY - AUSTRALIAN SURVIVOR - ELIMINATION CHAT 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.640 TV Reload the podcast last weep that line. Hey guys, 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.720 welcome back to TV Reload. Thank you for clicking and downloading. 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:11.360 On today's episode with Blue Speedos otherwise known as Nathan, 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:15.000 the fifth eliminated contestant from this year's Australian Survivor on 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.880 Network ten, I will be talking about his time in 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:20.079 Samoa and of course what he thinks now that the 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.840 smoke has well and truly been snuffed out and faded 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.840 away into oblivion. Australian Survivor Titans Versus Rebels is a 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.600 showdown that pits the winners against the underdogs and the 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.199 big wigs against the battlers, with each player competing for 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.519 the grand prize of half a million dollars. Nathan from 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.440 Melbourne Victoria's early campaign to focus on tribe's strength alienated 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.600 him from the Titans Majority Alliance, although he was able 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:45.879 to help his tribe embark on winning a streak of 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.680 immunity challenges. After he lost the immunity challenge on day fourteen, 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:53.800 the majority Alliance preferred loyalty over strength, prompting them to 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.720 vote him out on a split vote. Nathan will talk 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.440 about his early fumble with Frankie and discuss how he 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.680 would have played the game differently if he could go 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.240 back in time, and also how we would play the 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.759 game if he was in a future season. He will 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.000 unpack those blue speedos, telling us why he chose them, 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.479 and we will discuss why they might not have been 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.400 a good idea after all. I will address the current 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.280 situation at the Titans camp and why Kelly didn't blink 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.679 an eye being benched in that immunity challenge. Plus Nathan 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.080 will explain why they aren't eating any fish that would 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.840 obviously be in the water and not consuming the berries 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.720 that would obviously be on some of the trees. There's 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.319 actually so much to unpack with Nathan, and he's really 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.680 fun to talk to. So sit back and relax as 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.600 we dive just that little bit deeper into the world 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.880 of Australian Survivor, which continues this Sunday night at seven 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:44.920 thirty on Network ten. Hey Nathan, how are you? I'm excited, 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:46.920 but I just want to say, with only six episodes 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.040 under your belt, you've still left a very meaty impression 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.040 on the friends that I have that watch Australian Survivor. 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:54.640 It was good fun. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.080 Like I made obviously my personality, and I think like 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.920 I'm obviously a cast as bit of a dumb jock, 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:02.200 and I think I just played up to it a 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:03.520 little bit and had a bit of fun with it. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.400 So it was good fun and hopefully I was entertaining. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.360 Throughout my whole entire life and I'm in my forties. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.640 Maybe it was a way of surviving at school, but 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:14.160 I always aligned myself with the alpha male in any 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.200 social situation, and that might seem strange to you because 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.400 I'm this really camp man, but it is a way 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.720 of survival. So for me watching the game, I would 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.760 have aligned with you first, where I don't know what 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:27.760 happened all these other peo that no one wanted to 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.360 align with you. It was very strange to me. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:30.200 It's funny. 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.600 I think in the game of Survivor, it's completely different 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.320 to obviously real life, where in real life we're not 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.799 voting each other off an island and we're not competing 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.359 for half a million dollars against these people. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.280 So I think it's a bit of a double edged. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.160 Sword, being a bit more of an alpha and a 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.880 bit more of an outgoing personality and strong and whatnot. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.399 So yeah, I mean, if you can play it well, 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.080 you can do really well. But I think by design 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.640 you're probably out numbered. I think the Alphas are probably 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.440 out numbered. So yeah, maybe I like, I mean, if 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.160 I have my time again, I might have just tried 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.000 to dial it down a little bit and probably try 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.119 to play a little bit more under the radar. But yeah, 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:07.919 I think that's just the way when no one wanted 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.800 to align with the Alphas this season. 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.440 Yeah, but this is great though, because like next season 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.680 it won't be because I'm going to say the nerds 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:16.639 they're not nerds. They're definitely not nerds, and if they're 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.080 listening to this podcast, you're not nerds. But I feel 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.720 like next time round, everyone's going to try and get 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:23.320 rid of the nerds first, because they're going to be 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.320 like they're the ones to watch because we had a 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.359 male brawn, strong or whatever they call it two seasons ago, 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.920 which I think has now put a massive target on 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:32.480 people that look like you. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:33.720 Yeah, I'd love. 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.360 To go around on the next one where they're not 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:36.600 voting out there's strong. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.160 Players, so I can make it a little bit further. 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.520 But Nathan, I will apply and I will be there 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.520 and I will let's do it. I will not be 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.720 voting you out, my friend, there is no way. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.880 And you will make a good due, I think. Yeah, 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:48.200 I don't know. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.280 I mean maybe it had to order a bit to 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.600 do with a whole new cast as well, whereas like 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:57.000 no returning players, everyone's new, everyone's fresh. Maybe if there's 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.720 returning players or people who have been through the game 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.080 before or that, I'm more open to aligning with the 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:05.480 stronger players or the more alpha dominant players. Who knows, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.240 But yeah, I mean, it was just the way that 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.760 the game went this time, where you know, the alphas 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:12.960 were sort of the ones that were getting picked off, 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.680 and you know, as you said, in other sort of seasons, 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:16.840 there's been the alphas that. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.360 Have sort of made it through to at least merge. 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:20.680 So just the way it went. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.880 I'd read something somewhere and maybe I've finished the Internet 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.320 on you, and maybe that says more about me that 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.240 I should really reveal. But how did the strengths have 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.480 ever come up to you? Because I read somewhere that 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.400 you'd applied a couple of times before. Is that wrong? 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.200 No? No, I'd never applied before. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.120 No, I think fan fiction is what someone someone's obviously 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.360 out there running to fiction. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.640 It was just basically like through Instagram, went through the process, 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.599 and yeah, it sort of just eventuated that way. So no, 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.839 I'd never I'd never applied or done any reality TV before. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.200 Obviously my background in sport and footy and AFL had 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.080 some exposure to the media and stuff before that, but 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:58.440 nothing reality wise. 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.400 And I wasn't even sort of thinking about it. 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.080 And then obviously this opportunity popped up and I thought, 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.680 this is like a crazy experience and I'd love to 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.200 jump on it. So yeah, and just eventuated from there. 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.240 Okay, So that kind of makes a little bit more sense. 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.880 I think. Also, when I was talking to Frankie, she was, 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.320 you know, I threw this question out like who might 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.720 not have done their homework this season? And she threw 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.400 your name out there, said maybe it was you. How 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.880 much of the past ten seasons did you try and 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.039 watch before going in there? 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:25.919 I watched a little bit. I mean I had a 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.920 few friends that have been on it before, like Shawnee 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.000 is a good mate of mine, Oh wow, Dave's a 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.400 hi arcis a few people that I sort of just 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:34.120 like got so. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:35.960 They did really well, You've really laid it down. 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.360 I did really well. I did let them down. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.880 I was actually speaking to Shanny this morning and she's like, 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.560 what happened? And I was like, I got to ahead 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.560 of myself. She actually gave me some good pointers. I 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.920 literally did the opposite to what Shannie told me to do. So, oh, 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.680 I think it was just I don't know, I'm just 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:57.000 really not like add but just like really competitive and 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:01.039 always wanting to have fun and creatics and sort of 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:02.680 just entertaining myself and others. 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.200 So I think we just sort of came out too hot. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.600 Probably should have just relaxed and chilled for a little 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.440 while and sort of built those like social relationships and 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:14.280 those yeah alliances before being too open and out there 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:15.600 and trying to have a bit too much fun and 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.839 maybe pissing a few people off. So but it's fine, 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.640 Like once you're out on the island, I think it 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.960 does funny things. Yeah, Like you're just you're not thinking rationally, 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.040 like some people are really really good at sort of 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.120 like the marks and the edens. They're like amazing. It 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.680 really just like chilling and like having a big think 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.320 about the bigger picture and the moving parts whereas I 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:40.320 think for people like even like myself, Jaden, I was 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.160 like kitty, even like a few of the more like 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.440 you know, fit and lean like we were. We were 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.440 really battling without the food and just not the bottom, 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.720 but just not sleeping and eating shit. Like It's just 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.000 it does funny things to ya, Like looking back now, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:55.800 I'm watching it and going, I should have done this, 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:56.640 I should have done that. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.000 Oh that was happening. I had no idea. But it's 0:06:59.040 --> 0:06:59.159 like a. 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.480 Different it's a different game though, like when you're watching 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.640 it on television. I always laugh at those people that 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.479 are watching it and they're like, well, I would have 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.640 said this because that person just said that. And I'm like, okay, 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.720 so you don't ever hear what everyone else has to say. 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.160 So calm down on the couch there while you're having 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:17.680 your second pizza, you know, after your good night's sleep, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.160 when you turn the TV off when Survivor finishes and 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.400 go to bed and get eight hours or ten hours, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:23.320 like come down. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.400 Eat a handful of rice and sleep on the ground 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.200 for four days and then go to work and see 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.560 how you go. But it's yeah, it literally tests you 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:35.200 on like every facet of your being like the mental, 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:39.040 the physical, the emotional, like everything. It's just like the 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.920 ultimate game. So yeah, I think I didn't go in unprepared. 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.560 I think I tried to prepare as best as I could, 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.960 But I don't think you can ever until you're actually 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.600 in there living it. I think it's like you can 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:52.880 think you're prepared, you you can do all the things 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:54.840 you can do, but I just don't think you can 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.160 really prepare for what it's actually like. 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:58.760 I I was going to ask you this later on, 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.640 but I feel like really nervous about this question. So 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.440 I'm going to throw this Thursday question out really early 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.840 on when it came to these blue speedos, because everyone 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.880 referred to you as the man in blue speeders, So 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.280 I'm not really being too crass here. Do the producers 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.120 ask you to put the speedos on to see what 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.200 they look like before you go in there, just to 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.200 sort of block them, to sort of see, you know 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:18.960 how that's going to work, so that they can keep 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.360 me rating down, Like you know, look what what what 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:25.120 kind of a decision process comes down to? Any man 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:26.560 wearing speedos and a show like. 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:27.440 This, I don't know. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:33.480 I'm not against I'm not you know, ex footy, like I. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.800 Wears all the time, wearing one of my footy shirts 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:36.240 and everything. 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.000 So I think that we were sort of like obviously 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:40.920 when I got cast and they want to put forward, 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:42.960 like what wardrobe we want to wear? 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:44.400 And I was like, well, I'm going. 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.520 To wear speedos because you know, I can wear them 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.520 in the water, I can wear them just a wonder where, 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:53.000 like they're pretty multifunctional. So of course, obviously the Titans 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.120 were blue, so I just went and got no fight 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.280 out blue ones and obviously like Alex on the other 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.360 tribe had pink ones, which was funny, like we didn't 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:00.600 even that was a thing, Like. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:01.800 We just wasn't coordinated. 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.080 Yeah I wasn't coordinated, but just the way it turned out, 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.320 so yeah, I don't know. Hopefully it gave a little 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.480 bit of eye candy or just a bit of Sunday. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.839 Did it did? And you know, to the fans out there, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.040 feel free to say you're welcome, but like, you know, 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.040 I'll veer away because I feel like people will be 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.240 listening to this and they'd be like, how perverted do 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:20.240 you want to be? Bit Norris? 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:26.880 You know, Kelly, I'd Kelly talking to me. Everybody challenge 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.160 about wanting to come sleep with me and everything. 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.400 So I was Kelly at home. I was yelling that 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.079 at the screen. And then when Kelly would say it 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:34.680 and people would say she was crazy, I was like, 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.360 leave that woman alone. She's she knows what she's talking about. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.360 You know, it's great. She was great value. 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.160 I wish that there was an immunity idol sort of 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.960 laying under the table where you write down your votes, like, 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.600 I just wish that there was something there, because it 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.600 did kind of it could have worked, and it would 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.840 have been good television if they all stacked like that 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:53.880 on you and then you were able to pull out 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.760 an idol. It leads me to ask the question, though, 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:58.200 were you looking for an idol? 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.920 Yeah, so, honestly, kudos to anyone that finds an idol 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.280 without a clue, because it's so hard. The area is 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.440 so big, camp is so big, there's so many places 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.200 where an idol could be. So even now like looking 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.040 and seeing like you know, Ferris find an idol without 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.280 a clue, It's like, like, I don't think people understand 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.600 just how hard that is. And obviously Winter finding the 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.400 idol from inside the banana, and obviously they don't show 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.200 what we do during the day because they're trying to 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.560 condense everything into an episode. But yeah, man, we're in 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.880 the jungle every chance we can get looking for these idols, and. 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.360 That makes more sense. That makes sense to me. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:33.760 Yeah. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.160 Also what's also strange to me as well as like 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.320 why don't you goes fishing all the time and eating 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.520 nuts and berries on the ground, Like you told you're 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.320 not allowed to eat berries and stuff off the floor 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:43.120 and go fishing. 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.240 Now we can or you can do whatever you can. Honestly, like, 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:47.160 do whatever you want. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.520 It's fishing's really hard, Like that was I don't think 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.800 we caught anything. We tried a lot, but we didn't 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:56.120 really catch anything. Once you basically like eat all the 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.360 coconuts around the area, like you've just got to wait 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.000 for water fall down or it's all legit, like it's 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.160 you sort of just like fenjure yourself out there. But yeah, 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.960 you go, you go through your not your rations, but 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.120 like you find coconuts around the place, but you eat 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:10.480 them so quickly and then. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:11.120 There's none left. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.440 And it's like so you're always trying, you're always trying 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.319 to eat like catch fish and find coconuts. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.520 And berries and stuff. But yeah, it's like it's not 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:19.800 as it's. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.160 Not like they're plentiful, they're easy to find out there 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:23.520 because they're not. 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.280 You're sort of just relying on the rations of the 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:26.160 ice and the beans. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.760 And also like the reward challenges, like that's when you 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:30.839 really want to fill up. 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.320 And for my time I was there for was it 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:34.400 just over two weeks? 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.079 We didn't win one reward challenge that gave us a 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.240 good feed, Like we won a can of I think 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:40.800 I had a can of beans or something. 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.440 I don't like it, like green beans in my lid 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:44.000 al can. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.720 But like we were so hungry and we were just 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.000 like the other tribe. Every second day we're having a 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.079 feast like they are the toasties and the kids party 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:56.679 and everything. So wetuggled, we struggled so hard like we 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:57.360 were fitting it. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.199 You know. It was funny after Frankie's elimination and there 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:01.840 was this big target that was put on your back, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.800 it kind of felt like you were targeted very early on. 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:06.959 Would you have wanted to have played that any differently 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.400 now that you saw that that first episode really dictated 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:15.720 your demise, I think like I when I have. 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:17.360 My time again, if I go on again, like, I'll 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.520 do everything exactly complete opposite to what I did obviously, 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:24.280 banding together with other people that were like I would 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.760 have put a lot more energy into getting to know 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:31.080 and like especially really early days when those relationships are 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.040 being formed, like getting to in with the people like 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:38.400 the Chilesers and the Violas and the Marks, because yeah, 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.280 I think once those battle lines are drawn and those 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.680 friendships are really solidified, it's hard to unless you're sort 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.560 of in the middle, like the Childs and the Edens 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.199 that can sort of pivot in between the two, it's 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.280 hard to really get them back on side. And especially 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.320 when I was sort of aligned with Frankie and just 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.079 sort of just having a bit of fun, and. 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.200 I just thought that you would have charmed these women more. 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:59.960 There was a lot of women there and like, look 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.880 at you, and I'm sure you're not unfamiliar with a 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.840 v How did you not get those women on your side? 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:06.520 Yeah, I don't know. 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.720 I mean, Valeria has a husband outside the game, Carolina's 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:11.520 husband outside the game. 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:12.920 Even Frankie had a boyfriend. 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.000 So that there was just like I want to take 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:16.480 you to task on that, because I thought that was 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.840 pretty outrageous that comment to the camera about her having 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.679 a boyfriend, but she still wanted to cuddle, you know. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.480 So Frankie was so loyal to. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:29.800 I didn't come across that way, mate, It didn't come 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:30.360 across that one. 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:34.160 I was like, okay, I wasts on opposite sides of 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.120 the but we did have a lot of fun. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.000 Like I was, I was being a little bit cheeky, 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:39.520 but no, she was a great girl. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.680 Did you get in trouble from her or her boyfriend 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.360 if you had any calls? 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.400 No, no, No, they're rock solid and they like I 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.920 know them, like obviously know Frankie, but I know her 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:50.920 partner now and he's like an absolutely ripper. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.040 Like it's all just good fun. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.200 And I mean, like you look at the other tribe, 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.280 like the Cuddle Crew and stuff. Honestly, it's if you're 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.560 not like you're always wet cold at night it is freezing. 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.840 I think night one night one I gave Valeria my jacket, 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.720 Frankie my hoodie. Like I gave all the girls my 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.280 clothes just because like I'm okay with the cold, Like 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.360 I slept in my shorts every night, but the girls 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.800 like had to rug up because they were freezing of course. 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.160 I mean you do ice buckets every day to have 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.240 a body like that, right. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.600 Yeah, yeah, so exactly like I was. 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.280 I was okay with the cold, so I just gave 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.040 all the girls my clothes and they just wore that. 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.680 But if you're not like cuddling up, or if you're 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.960 not sleeping really close, like I think, you've literally just 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.760 got to, like like you need to. You're sleeping like 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.240 shoulder to shoulder, you have to cuddle if you have to. 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.920 Like, I think it's a survival thing. 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:39.120 It's a vible thing. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:43.520 Yeah, it's not sexual flow, you know nothing, it's not 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.640 sexual at all. It's like we're just all trying to 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.400 like get through the night. So yeah, I mean like 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.480 anything like that with like that you know, innuendo or 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.640 like romantic sort of stuff, I think that's a little 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:54.280 bit overblown. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.720 It's literally just us trying to stay warm. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:57.080 You know. 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.200 The Middle aged Alliance and whatever they're calling it, you know, 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.440 they really slap you with this whole sort of mini 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.440 frat boy thing, and I thought that was a little 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.600 bit unfair that they kind of stereotyped you quite quickly 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.520 with that. Watching it back and watching people's understanding of 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:13.000 your character. Did you feel misrepresented? Did you think they 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.360 took the wrong end of the stick? How did it 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.160 feel watching it back instead of hearing the way that 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:19.560 you were being discussed. 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.080 I think that's just the way I know, like what 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.880 my stereotype may look like. I did play up to 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.800 it a little bit, just for very few laughs. But yeah, 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.600 I don't know, like I'm complete. I think why people 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.400 don't realize, like I'm completely different to what I am 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:35.160 in that game. 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:36.440 I think I just sort of played up to. 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:36.760 It a lot. 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.840 Well, even now today I'm talking to you, seem a 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.600 little bit more personable, Like I'm stuck for a better 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.080 word because we're on a podcast with a tight timeframe, 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.240 but like I think, yeah, there's a little bit more 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.400 warmth to you today in this conversation than to maybe 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:52.240 what they saw. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:53.720 Yeah, and then it. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.320 Does sort of beg the question if you're going to 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.880 play Survivor, well, shouldn't you just stick to your truer 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:02.080 self as opposed to try and amp it up in somebody? 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.800 Yeah? Yeah, I think so, I think. But the funny 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.120 thing is, like it's a really good late Like me 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.720 and Kitty are really tight off the game. Even Charles 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.240 Mark like a messing this morning, like we were all 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.680 really really close and really good friends. Like, but I 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.280 think just the nature of the game is you sort 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.320 of just got a we're all playing a game at 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:20.960 the end of the day. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.840 So Kitty really came out at that, you know, the 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.600 tribal council. Kitty sort of came out for Jayden, and 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.880 I thought that that was really hard to watch, where 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.440