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Speaker 1: On today's episode with Blue Speedos otherwise known as Nathan,
Speaker 1: the fifth eliminated contestant from this year's Australian Survivor on
Speaker 1: Network ten, I will be talking about his time in
Speaker 1: Samoa and of course what he thinks now that the
Speaker 1: smoke has well and truly been snuffed out and faded
Speaker 1: away into oblivion. Australian Survivor Titans Versus Rebels is a
Speaker 1: showdown that pits the winners against the underdogs and the
Speaker 1: big wigs against the battlers, with each player competing for
Speaker 1: the grand prize of half a million dollars. Nathan from
Speaker 1: Melbourne Victoria's early campaign to focus on tribe's strength alienated
Speaker 1: him from the Titans Majority Alliance, although he was able
Speaker 1: to help his tribe embark on winning a streak of
Speaker 1: immunity challenges. After he lost the immunity challenge on day fourteen,
Speaker 1: the majority Alliance preferred loyalty over strength, prompting them to
Speaker 1: vote him out on a split vote. Nathan will talk
Speaker 1: about his early fumble with Frankie and discuss how he
Speaker 1: would have played the game differently if he could go
Speaker 1: back in time, and also how we would play the
Speaker 1: game if he was in a future season. He will
Speaker 1: unpack those blue speedos, telling us why he chose them,
Speaker 1: and we will discuss why they might not have been
Speaker 1: a good idea after all. I will address the current
Speaker 1: situation at the Titans camp and why Kelly didn't blink
Speaker 1: an eye being benched in that immunity challenge. Plus Nathan
Speaker 1: will explain why they aren't eating any fish that would
Speaker 1: obviously be in the water and not consuming the berries
Speaker 1: that would obviously be on some of the trees. There's
Speaker 1: actually so much to unpack with Nathan, and he's really
Speaker 1: fun to talk to. So sit back and relax as
Speaker 1: we dive just that little bit deeper into the world
Speaker 1: of Australian Survivor, which continues this Sunday night at seven
Speaker 1: thirty on Network ten. Hey Nathan, how are you? I'm excited,
Speaker 1: but I just want to say, with only six episodes
Speaker 1: under your belt, you've still left a very meaty impression
Speaker 1: on the friends that I have that watch Australian Survivor.
Speaker 2: It was good fun.
Speaker 3: Like I made obviously my personality, and I think like
Speaker 3: I'm obviously a cast as bit of a dumb jock,
Speaker 3: and I think I just played up to it a
Speaker 3: little bit and had a bit of fun with it.
Speaker 2: So it was good fun and hopefully I was entertaining.
Speaker 1: Throughout my whole entire life and I'm in my forties.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a way of surviving at school, but
Speaker 1: I always aligned myself with the alpha male in any
Speaker 1: social situation, and that might seem strange to you because
Speaker 1: I'm this really camp man, but it is a way
Speaker 1: of survival. So for me watching the game, I would
Speaker 1: have aligned with you first, where I don't know what
Speaker 1: happened all these other peo that no one wanted to
Speaker 1: align with you. It was very strange to me.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 3: I think in the game of Survivor, it's completely different
Speaker 3: to obviously real life, where in real life we're not
Speaker 3: voting each other off an island and we're not competing
Speaker 3: for half a million dollars against these people.
Speaker 2: So I think it's a bit of a double edged.
Speaker 3: Sword, being a bit more of an alpha and a
Speaker 3: bit more of an outgoing personality and strong and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, if you can play it well,
Speaker 3: you can do really well. But I think by design
Speaker 3: you're probably out numbered. I think the Alphas are probably
Speaker 3: out numbered. So yeah, maybe I like, I mean, if
Speaker 3: I have my time again, I might have just tried
Speaker 3: to dial it down a little bit and probably try
Speaker 3: to play a little bit more under the radar. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that's just the way when no one wanted
Speaker 3: to align with the Alphas this season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is great though, because like next season
Speaker 1: it won't be because I'm going to say the nerds
Speaker 1: they're not nerds. They're definitely not nerds, and if they're
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, you're not nerds. But I feel
Speaker 1: like next time round, everyone's going to try and get
Speaker 1: rid of the nerds first, because they're going to be
Speaker 1: like they're the ones to watch because we had a
Speaker 1: male brawn, strong or whatever they call it two seasons ago,
Speaker 1: which I think has now put a massive target on
Speaker 1: people that look like you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love.
Speaker 3: To go around on the next one where they're not
Speaker 3: voting out there's strong.
Speaker 2: Players, so I can make it a little bit further.
Speaker 1: But Nathan, I will apply and I will be there
Speaker 1: and I will let's do it. I will not be
Speaker 1: voting you out, my friend, there is no way.
Speaker 2: And you will make a good due, I think. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe it had to order a bit to
Speaker 3: do with a whole new cast as well, whereas like
Speaker 3: no returning players, everyone's new, everyone's fresh. Maybe if there's
Speaker 3: returning players or people who have been through the game
Speaker 3: before or that, I'm more open to aligning with the
Speaker 3: stronger players or the more alpha dominant players. Who knows,
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, it was just the way that
Speaker 3: the game went this time, where you know, the alphas
Speaker 3: were sort of the ones that were getting picked off,
Speaker 3: and you know, as you said, in other sort of seasons,
Speaker 3: there's been the alphas that.
Speaker 2: Have sort of made it through to at least merge.
Speaker 2: So just the way it went.
Speaker 1: I'd read something somewhere and maybe I've finished the Internet
Speaker 1: on you, and maybe that says more about me that
Speaker 1: I should really reveal. But how did the strengths have
Speaker 1: ever come up to you? Because I read somewhere that
Speaker 1: you'd applied a couple of times before. Is that wrong?
Speaker 2: No? No, I'd never applied before.
Speaker 1: No, I think fan fiction is what someone someone's obviously
Speaker 1: out there running to fiction.
Speaker 3: It was just basically like through Instagram, went through the process,
Speaker 3: and yeah, it sort of just eventuated that way. So no,
Speaker 3: I'd never I'd never applied or done any reality TV before.
Speaker 3: Obviously my background in sport and footy and AFL had
Speaker 3: some exposure to the media and stuff before that, but
Speaker 3: nothing reality wise.
Speaker 2: And I wasn't even sort of thinking about it.
Speaker 3: And then obviously this opportunity popped up and I thought,
Speaker 3: this is like a crazy experience and I'd love to
Speaker 3: jump on it. So yeah, and just eventuated from there.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that kind of makes a little bit more sense.
Speaker 1: I think. Also, when I was talking to Frankie, she was,
Speaker 1: you know, I threw this question out like who might
Speaker 1: not have done their homework this season? And she threw
Speaker 1: your name out there, said maybe it was you. How
Speaker 1: much of the past ten seasons did you try and
Speaker 1: watch before going in there?
Speaker 3: I watched a little bit. I mean I had a
Speaker 3: few friends that have been on it before, like Shawnee
Speaker 3: is a good mate of mine, Oh wow, Dave's a
Speaker 3: hi arcis a few people that I sort of just
Speaker 3: like got so.
Speaker 1: They did really well, You've really laid it down.
Speaker 2: I did really well. I did let them down.
Speaker 3: I was actually speaking to Shanny this morning and she's like,
Speaker 3: what happened? And I was like, I got to ahead
Speaker 3: of myself. She actually gave me some good pointers. I
Speaker 3: literally did the opposite to what Shannie told me to do. So, oh,
Speaker 3: I think it was just I don't know, I'm just
Speaker 3: really not like add but just like really competitive and
Speaker 3: always wanting to have fun and creatics and sort of
Speaker 3: just entertaining myself and others.
Speaker 2: So I think we just sort of came out too hot.
Speaker 3: Probably should have just relaxed and chilled for a little
Speaker 3: while and sort of built those like social relationships and
Speaker 3: those yeah alliances before being too open and out there
Speaker 3: and trying to have a bit too much fun and
Speaker 3: maybe pissing a few people off. So but it's fine,
Speaker 3: Like once you're out on the island, I think it
Speaker 3: does funny things. Yeah, Like you're just you're not thinking rationally,
Speaker 3: like some people are really really good at sort of
Speaker 3: like the marks and the edens. They're like amazing. It
Speaker 3: really just like chilling and like having a big think
Speaker 3: about the bigger picture and the moving parts whereas I
Speaker 3: think for people like even like myself, Jaden, I was
Speaker 3: like kitty, even like a few of the more like
Speaker 3: you know, fit and lean like we were. We were
Speaker 3: really battling without the food and just not the bottom,
Speaker 3: but just not sleeping and eating shit. Like It's just
Speaker 3: it does funny things to ya, Like looking back now,
Speaker 3: I'm watching it and going, I should have done this,
Speaker 3: I should have done that.
Speaker 2: Oh that was happening. I had no idea. But it's
Speaker 2: like a.
Speaker 1: Different it's a different game though, like when you're watching
Speaker 1: it on television. I always laugh at those people that
Speaker 1: are watching it and they're like, well, I would have
Speaker 1: said this because that person just said that. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: so you don't ever hear what everyone else has to say.
Speaker 1: So calm down on the couch there while you're having
Speaker 1: your second pizza, you know, after your good night's sleep,
Speaker 1: when you turn the TV off when Survivor finishes and
Speaker 1: go to bed and get eight hours or ten hours,
Speaker 1: like come down.
Speaker 3: Eat a handful of rice and sleep on the ground
Speaker 3: for four days and then go to work and see
Speaker 3: how you go. But it's yeah, it literally tests you
Speaker 3: on like every facet of your being like the mental,
Speaker 3: the physical, the emotional, like everything. It's just like the
Speaker 3: ultimate game. So yeah, I think I didn't go in unprepared.
Speaker 3: I think I tried to prepare as best as I could,
Speaker 3: But I don't think you can ever until you're actually
Speaker 3: in there living it. I think it's like you can
Speaker 3: think you're prepared, you you can do all the things
Speaker 3: you can do, but I just don't think you can
Speaker 3: really prepare for what it's actually like.
Speaker 1: I I was going to ask you this later on,
Speaker 1: but I feel like really nervous about this question. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw this Thursday question out really early
Speaker 1: on when it came to these blue speedos, because everyone
Speaker 1: referred to you as the man in blue speeders, So
Speaker 1: I'm not really being too crass here. Do the producers
Speaker 1: ask you to put the speedos on to see what
Speaker 1: they look like before you go in there, just to
Speaker 1: sort of block them, to sort of see, you know
Speaker 1: how that's going to work, so that they can keep
Speaker 1: me rating down, Like you know, look what what what
Speaker 1: kind of a decision process comes down to? Any man
Speaker 1: wearing speedos and a show like.
Speaker 2: This, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not against I'm not you know, ex footy, like I.
Speaker 2: Wears all the time, wearing one of my footy shirts
Speaker 2: and everything.
Speaker 3: So I think that we were sort of like obviously
Speaker 3: when I got cast and they want to put forward,
Speaker 3: like what wardrobe we want to wear?
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I'm going.
Speaker 3: To wear speedos because you know, I can wear them
Speaker 3: in the water, I can wear them just a wonder where,
Speaker 3: like they're pretty multifunctional. So of course, obviously the Titans
Speaker 3: were blue, so I just went and got no fight
Speaker 3: out blue ones and obviously like Alex on the other
Speaker 3: tribe had pink ones, which was funny, like we didn't
Speaker 3: even that was a thing, Like.
Speaker 1: We just wasn't coordinated.
Speaker 3: Yeah I wasn't coordinated, but just the way it turned out,
Speaker 3: so yeah, I don't know. Hopefully it gave a little
Speaker 3: bit of eye candy or just a bit of Sunday.
Speaker 1: Did it did? And you know, to the fans out there,
Speaker 1: feel free to say you're welcome, but like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll veer away because I feel like people will be
Speaker 1: listening to this and they'd be like, how perverted do
Speaker 1: you want to be? Bit Norris?
Speaker 3: You know, Kelly, I'd Kelly talking to me. Everybody challenge
Speaker 3: about wanting to come sleep with me and everything.
Speaker 1: So I was Kelly at home. I was yelling that
Speaker 1: at the screen. And then when Kelly would say it
Speaker 1: and people would say she was crazy, I was like,
Speaker 1: leave that woman alone. She's she knows what she's talking about.
Speaker 2: You know, it's great. She was great value.
Speaker 1: I wish that there was an immunity idol sort of
Speaker 1: laying under the table where you write down your votes, like,
Speaker 1: I just wish that there was something there, because it
Speaker 1: did kind of it could have worked, and it would
Speaker 1: have been good television if they all stacked like that
Speaker 1: on you and then you were able to pull out
Speaker 1: an idol. It leads me to ask the question, though,
Speaker 1: were you looking for an idol?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, honestly, kudos to anyone that finds an idol
Speaker 3: without a clue, because it's so hard. The area is
Speaker 3: so big, camp is so big, there's so many places
Speaker 3: where an idol could be. So even now like looking
Speaker 3: and seeing like you know, Ferris find an idol without
Speaker 3: a clue, It's like, like, I don't think people understand
Speaker 3: just how hard that is. And obviously Winter finding the
Speaker 3: idol from inside the banana, and obviously they don't show
Speaker 3: what we do during the day because they're trying to
Speaker 3: condense everything into an episode. But yeah, man, we're in
Speaker 3: the jungle every chance we can get looking for these idols, and.
Speaker 1: That makes more sense. That makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also what's also strange to me as well as like
Speaker 1: why don't you goes fishing all the time and eating
Speaker 1: nuts and berries on the ground, Like you told you're
Speaker 1: not allowed to eat berries and stuff off the floor
Speaker 1: and go fishing.
Speaker 2: Now we can or you can do whatever you can. Honestly, like,
Speaker 2: do whatever you want.
Speaker 3: It's fishing's really hard, Like that was I don't think
Speaker 3: we caught anything. We tried a lot, but we didn't
Speaker 3: really catch anything. Once you basically like eat all the
Speaker 3: coconuts around the area, like you've just got to wait
Speaker 3: for water fall down or it's all legit, like it's
Speaker 3: you sort of just like fenjure yourself out there. But yeah,
Speaker 3: you go, you go through your not your rations, but
Speaker 3: like you find coconuts around the place, but you eat
Speaker 3: them so quickly and then.
Speaker 2: There's none left.
Speaker 3: And it's like so you're always trying, you're always trying
Speaker 3: to eat like catch fish and find coconuts.
Speaker 2: And berries and stuff. But yeah, it's like it's not
Speaker 2: as it's.
Speaker 3: Not like they're plentiful, they're easy to find out there
Speaker 3: because they're not.
Speaker 2: You're sort of just relying on the rations of the
Speaker 2: ice and the beans.
Speaker 3: And also like the reward challenges, like that's when you
Speaker 3: really want to fill up.
Speaker 2: And for my time I was there for was it
Speaker 2: just over two weeks?
Speaker 3: We didn't win one reward challenge that gave us a
Speaker 3: good feed, Like we won a can of I think
Speaker 3: I had a can of beans or something.
Speaker 2: I don't like it, like green beans in my lid
Speaker 2: al can.
Speaker 3: But like we were so hungry and we were just
Speaker 3: like the other tribe. Every second day we're having a
Speaker 3: feast like they are the toasties and the kids party
Speaker 3: and everything. So wetuggled, we struggled so hard like we
Speaker 3: were fitting it.
Speaker 1: You know. It was funny after Frankie's elimination and there
Speaker 1: was this big target that was put on your back,
Speaker 1: it kind of felt like you were targeted very early on.
Speaker 1: Would you have wanted to have played that any differently
Speaker 1: now that you saw that that first episode really dictated
Speaker 1: your demise, I think like I when I have.
Speaker 3: My time again, if I go on again, like, I'll
Speaker 3: do everything exactly complete opposite to what I did obviously,
Speaker 3: banding together with other people that were like I would
Speaker 3: have put a lot more energy into getting to know
Speaker 3: and like especially really early days when those relationships are
Speaker 3: being formed, like getting to in with the people like
Speaker 3: the Chilesers and the Violas and the Marks, because yeah,
Speaker 3: I think once those battle lines are drawn and those
Speaker 3: friendships are really solidified, it's hard to unless you're sort
Speaker 3: of in the middle, like the Childs and the Edens
Speaker 3: that can sort of pivot in between the two, it's
Speaker 3: hard to really get them back on side. And especially
Speaker 3: when I was sort of aligned with Frankie and just
Speaker 3: sort of just having a bit of fun, and.
Speaker 1: I just thought that you would have charmed these women more.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of women there and like, look
Speaker 1: at you, and I'm sure you're not unfamiliar with a
Speaker 1: v How did you not get those women on your side?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, Valeria has a husband outside the game, Carolina's
Speaker 3: husband outside the game.
Speaker 2: Even Frankie had a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: So that there was just like I want to take
Speaker 1: you to task on that, because I thought that was
Speaker 1: pretty outrageous that comment to the camera about her having
Speaker 1: a boyfriend, but she still wanted to cuddle, you know.
Speaker 2: So Frankie was so loyal to.
Speaker 1: I didn't come across that way, mate, It didn't come
Speaker 1: across that one.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I wasts on opposite sides of
Speaker 3: the but we did have a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Like I was, I was being a little bit cheeky,
Speaker 2: but no, she was a great girl.
Speaker 1: Did you get in trouble from her or her boyfriend
Speaker 1: if you had any calls?
Speaker 3: No, no, No, they're rock solid and they like I
Speaker 3: know them, like obviously know Frankie, but I know her
Speaker 3: partner now and he's like an absolutely ripper.
Speaker 2: Like it's all just good fun.
Speaker 3: And I mean, like you look at the other tribe,
Speaker 3: like the Cuddle Crew and stuff. Honestly, it's if you're
Speaker 3: not like you're always wet cold at night it is freezing.
Speaker 3: I think night one night one I gave Valeria my jacket,
Speaker 3: Frankie my hoodie. Like I gave all the girls my
Speaker 3: clothes just because like I'm okay with the cold, Like
Speaker 3: I slept in my shorts every night, but the girls
Speaker 3: like had to rug up because they were freezing of course.
Speaker 1: I mean you do ice buckets every day to have
Speaker 1: a body like that, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so exactly like I was.
Speaker 3: I was okay with the cold, so I just gave
Speaker 3: all the girls my clothes and they just wore that.
Speaker 3: But if you're not like cuddling up, or if you're
Speaker 3: not sleeping really close, like I think, you've literally just
Speaker 3: got to, like like you need to. You're sleeping like
Speaker 3: shoulder to shoulder, you have to cuddle if you have to.
Speaker 1: Like, I think it's a survival thing.
Speaker 2: It's a vible thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not sexual flow, you know nothing, it's not
Speaker 3: sexual at all. It's like we're just all trying to
Speaker 3: like get through the night. So yeah, I mean like
Speaker 3: anything like that with like that you know, innuendo or
Speaker 3: like romantic sort of stuff, I think that's a little
Speaker 3: bit overblown.
Speaker 2: It's literally just us trying to stay warm.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: The Middle aged Alliance and whatever they're calling it, you know,
Speaker 1: they really slap you with this whole sort of mini
Speaker 1: frat boy thing, and I thought that was a little
Speaker 1: bit unfair that they kind of stereotyped you quite quickly
Speaker 1: with that. Watching it back and watching people's understanding of
Speaker 1: your character. Did you feel misrepresented? Did you think they
Speaker 1: took the wrong end of the stick? How did it
Speaker 1: feel watching it back instead of hearing the way that
Speaker 1: you were being discussed.
Speaker 3: I think that's just the way I know, like what
Speaker 3: my stereotype may look like. I did play up to
Speaker 3: it a little bit, just for very few laughs. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, like I'm complete. I think why people
Speaker 3: don't realize, like I'm completely different to what I am
Speaker 3: in that game.
Speaker 2: I think I just sort of played up to.
Speaker 3: It a lot.
Speaker 1: Well, even now today I'm talking to you, seem a
Speaker 1: little bit more personable, Like I'm stuck for a better
Speaker 1: word because we're on a podcast with a tight timeframe,
Speaker 1: but like I think, yeah, there's a little bit more
Speaker 1: warmth to you today in this conversation than to maybe
Speaker 1: what they saw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it.
Speaker 1: Does sort of beg the question if you're going to
Speaker 1: play Survivor, well, shouldn't you just stick to your truer
Speaker 1: self as opposed to try and amp it up in somebody?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I think so, I think. But the funny
Speaker 3: thing is, like it's a really good late Like me
Speaker 3: and Kitty are really tight off the game. Even Charles
Speaker 3: Mark like a messing this morning, like we were all
Speaker 3: really really close and really good friends. Like, but I
Speaker 3: think just the nature of the game is you sort
Speaker 3: of just got a we're all playing a game at
Speaker 3: the end of the day.
Speaker 1: So Kitty really came out at that, you know, the
Speaker 1: tribal council. Kitty sort of came out for Jayden, and
Speaker 1: I thought that that was really hard to watch, where
Speaker 1: she's like everyone who matters and then Jaden sticked to
Speaker 1: the plan. It was kind of brutal to watch considering
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen much of Kitty. Should she be acting
Speaker 1: like that at this point of the game, Like it
Speaker 1: seemed kind of out of character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3: Like the funny thing is is Kitty was me and
Speaker 3: Jaden and when I were really tight with Kitty, Like
Speaker 3: I adore Kitty. She's amazing, And I think it might
Speaker 3: have come across that way as well.
Speaker 2: She's very dry, she's very funny, witty.
Speaker 3: I think that just sort of like not taken out
Speaker 3: of context, but I think it just came across as
Speaker 3: very brutal. Well, obviously we haven't seen like literally anything
Speaker 3: of Kitty yet in confessionals or in the gameplay yet
Speaker 3: so it was almost like a like, oh, what the hell,
Speaker 3: like who's kitty? But yeah, I think like I was,
Speaker 3: I was really tired with a lot of the people.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I think I
Speaker 3: was the alphad jock Aussie. I think I just stood
Speaker 3: out a lot, Like my personality stood out a lot
Speaker 3: more compared to you know, add more of like an
Speaker 3: understated tribe on the Titans, whereas you look over the
Speaker 3: rebels and you've got some big, big personalities. Maybe I
Speaker 3: would have been a little bit more shielded by that,
Speaker 3: but yeah.
Speaker 1: I could Ge're probably right. I did actually contemplate that
Speaker 1: sort of theory myself, like as in whether you'd been
Speaker 1: on that side because there was such big personalities over there,
Speaker 1: I think that you wouldn't have stood out as much.
Speaker 1: But then I also wondered whether or not not to
Speaker 1: go back to the Blue Speedos and this podcast is
Speaker 1: now called Blue Speedos. But I wondered whether or not
Speaker 1: even sort of not wearing something that stood out that
Speaker 1: much would have been good for you, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like I kind of feel like if
Speaker 1: I was to go back in time and mentor you
Speaker 1: in this and no one had seen you because you're
Speaker 1: a friend player. I reckon that you could have just
Speaker 1: not tried to be something you're not, because I don't
Speaker 1: think that works, but like almost be a little bit
Speaker 1: more of your nerdier side of you, Like a little
Speaker 1: bit more I'm unaware of how attractive I am. Kinde
Speaker 1: kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, like I said before, if I go
Speaker 3: on again, I'm going to I literally do the opposite
Speaker 3: to what I to what I've done now.
Speaker 1: But then people already have such a strong connotation, no
Speaker 1: one's going to forget you. So when you turn up,
Speaker 1: I feel like your impact on the game was so strong.
Speaker 1: I actually think that that impact could even translate and
Speaker 1: still exist in your next play potentially.
Speaker 3: Once you're out there, funny things happen too. It's like,
Speaker 3: it's not Australia aren't voting each other out.
Speaker 2: We're voting each other out.
Speaker 3: But again, like who knows, I might go on and
Speaker 3: I could play the exact same game I just played
Speaker 3: and make it a lot further just based on tribe
Speaker 3: dynamiccent it's dynamics. Yeah, yeah, if the tribe want to
Speaker 3: vote out the weaker players, first, maybe I'll last longer. So,
Speaker 3: like you can say all the ifs and butts, but
Speaker 3: it's just the way it turned out for me.
Speaker 1: I always call it Sunday Morning quarterbacking, which is a
Speaker 1: sort of a sporting term, which I think you might understand,
Speaker 1: but you know that is what happens. You can't help
Speaker 1: but do that. It's the nature of any kind of reality.
Speaker 1: It's actually the nature of any kind of sporting game,
Speaker 1: you know what. I mean to look back and see.
Speaker 1: But we would be crazy not to talk about Kelly,
Speaker 1: because Kelly is the most hashtagged and talked about person
Speaker 1: this season, because she's quite polarizing. Do you think because
Speaker 1: she bothered the Rebels so much and then she's come
Speaker 1: across to the Titans, do you think she's going to
Speaker 1: bother the Titans as much as she bothered the Rebels.
Speaker 1: It was so funny because when she came over to us,
Speaker 1: we knew that when we were at the Challenges, when
Speaker 1: we cross.
Speaker 3: Paths, we know that she's on the outer like, we
Speaker 3: know that everyone's pissed off with her. So when she
Speaker 3: came to us, I think we had we sort of
Speaker 3: just like wrapped her arms around her and we're just like.
Speaker 3: She was very because we didn't have we didn't have
Speaker 3: much excitement in our tribe, like we didn't we were
Speaker 3: not boring, but it was just like Kelly coming over
Speaker 3: to us, it was like a fire cracker. We were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is awesome, and like tell us everything, like what's happening.
Speaker 3: And we had a lot of like Charles's the dad,
Speaker 3: Eden's a dad, Carolines and March like, we had a
Speaker 3: lot of people that which just sort of like wanted
Speaker 3: to wrap our arms around her. So we had a
Speaker 3: lot of fun with cal and I think she really
Speaker 3: enjoyed us, and I think to the point where she
Speaker 3: didn't even attempt to sabotage our immunity challenge, which was
Speaker 3: our mission.
Speaker 1: So well it wasn't really her choice though, to be
Speaker 1: able to sabotage that, because I mean she was benched.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we benched her, and I think and she
Speaker 3: didn't even put up a fight because I think and
Speaker 3: then like obviously we went to tribal counsel and she said,
Speaker 3: she goes, I just loved you guys too. She was
Speaker 3: almost like in that trouble counsel went for ages and
Speaker 3: she was in tears and she was so grateful that
Speaker 3: so nice to her.
Speaker 1: So do you know, I've got this theory with her, right, Like,
Speaker 1: is there a possibility that she's a genius because she
Speaker 1: fooling everyone with this kooky old lady act? Like is
Speaker 1: she pretending to be like a mister Bean type character
Speaker 1: of just some kind of buffoonery, But then in real
Speaker 1: life she's super duper smart or if.
Speaker 3: That's an act for the island, then she's great in
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 1: So she's the kokie old lady, she's not the genius.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think she's a cookie old lady.
Speaker 3: But again again like you just don't know, like she,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you could keep up an act
Speaker 3: for that long, true, in that sort of environment and
Speaker 3: not show any cracks of not being who you are.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's very, very hard. But she was funny,
Speaker 3: like she she comes from a great place, like she's
Speaker 3: she's very nice, very warm hearted. But I think she
Speaker 3: just doesn't over the line is to sort of just
Speaker 3: like pull back a bit.
Speaker 1: She's great television, Like I think that she's fantastic, and
Speaker 1: when people say things about her online it's funny. I
Speaker 1: always look at the profile pictures of the people that
Speaker 1: rip her the most, and I'm like, you are, Kelly.
Speaker 1: You look at their photos and you read their status updates,
Speaker 1: and you're like, you're upset with her because people don't
Speaker 1: like what they like in others, what they see in themselves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, she doesn't bother me at all. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, you're great television. And then I get online
Speaker 1: and people like she's unwell or say something ridiculous, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, mate, I think that's you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she gets people talking. That's I think that's the
Speaker 2: most that's the most important thing.
Speaker 1: So Mark ripping that box open was amazing to me.
Speaker 1: I would have liked it if he picked up like
Speaker 1: an axe or a shive and went over and smacked
Speaker 1: it open. But he ripped it open with his bare hands,
Speaker 1: which left like the fence, you know, scratching their heads
Speaker 1: about how fair that is considering he didn't have the key.
Speaker 1: How does that land with you?
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't even know about it. I didn't know
Speaker 3: that even happened. I didn't know Mark had an idol.
Speaker 1: But now that you've seen that, is that fair? He
Speaker 1: didn't have to wait for the key.
Speaker 3: I don't know, to be honest, if I was in
Speaker 3: the same situation, I'd probably rip it open.
Speaker 2: Myself as well.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he I don't know what was
Speaker 3: going through his head, if he if he thought he
Speaker 3: needed to get the key or whatever. But like if
Speaker 3: I found an id like that, I'd want it to
Speaker 3: still be in play. But I guess that's up to
Speaker 3: the game and the producers and jilp whether that's a thing.
Speaker 2: But it looks looks like it is and it.
Speaker 1: Was great television. I mean, we haven't ripped over with
Speaker 1: his bare hands.
Speaker 2: Mark's so underrated, Like.
Speaker 1: He's a strong fishing We saw him leap that fence.
Speaker 1: Do you know there was a challenge where he was
Speaker 1: like he just and everyone was like, Oh, there's Mark.
Speaker 2: He's a head swimmer. He's amazing. He's impressive guy.
Speaker 3: Mark.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, just because we're running out of time, I
Speaker 1: need to ask you, and this is a difficult question,
Speaker 1: can we work out the hierarchy from your perspective of
Speaker 1: the order of what's left with the Titans? So we
Speaker 1: have Mark Eden, the two V's, Charles Jaden, Winner and
Speaker 1: Kitty Ye. Can we just talk about the order of
Speaker 1: that hierarchy. Who's sitting at the top of that at
Speaker 1: the moment.
Speaker 3: I'd probably say Mark's at the top, followed probably by Aiden, Beal, Area, Viola,
Speaker 3: Charles Kitty, Caroline Winner, Jaden.
Speaker 1: Right, Jaden's at the bottom, like Jadens at the bottom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Jaden's on the wrong show. I think like Jaden's
Speaker 1: like a little bit like I don't.
Speaker 2: Know if Jaden knows what's happening most of the time.
Speaker 1: Jada be good on goggle Box though, because like he's
Speaker 1: kind of goggle boxing the experience, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like he's like, Okay, I really do enjoy that.
Speaker 1: So we got to see the buffs are down in
Speaker 1: the promo for next week, and I think that's signed for,
Speaker 1: you know, a new alliance. Who do you think is
Speaker 1: going to find a much needed new alliance once we
Speaker 1: see that kind of emerge.
Speaker 3: I think Jayden for sure, because I think there's a
Speaker 3: lot of strength still on the other tribe and like
Speaker 3: you know, the Alexis and the Ferrises and the Kirby's.
Speaker 3: Even Rihanna is a bit of a challenge beast as well.
Speaker 3: I reckon Jaden will find a bit more of people
Speaker 3: like minded like him, and I hope he does. And
Speaker 3: I think it'll be interesting to see, like if the
Speaker 3: V's and the Mark Alliance stay together in the Tribe
Speaker 3: swap or if they get broken up like it's Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's it'll be really good for obviously my
Speaker 3: boy Jaden to try and weasley his way out of
Speaker 3: getting off the bottom.
Speaker 1: And I think you're really smart. And this is one
Speaker 1: of the I threw this in there because I want
Speaker 1: people listening to this podcast to sort of see a
Speaker 1: different side to you. But Ferris was prompted that an
Speaker 1: idol can be used for multiple ways. Can you name
Speaker 1: two other ways an idol can be used? That is
Speaker 1: not saving yourself, that's not saving yourself obviously saving others.
Speaker 1: You can save someone else. There we go, Yep, you
Speaker 1: could save someone else. You can hand it over to
Speaker 1: someone else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, handed over to someone else, save someone else. I
Speaker 3: don't know, like what he's done. He's created a bit
Speaker 3: of paranoia if he hasn't actually shown anyone the idol yet,
Speaker 3: so I don't think anyone except for Ray, So there's
Speaker 3: I think there's probably still questions about whether he has.
Speaker 2: One or not. Just to throw a bit of a
Speaker 2: spanner in the works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so sort of double fake people with the whether
Speaker 1: or not you've got one. Okay, so there you go.
Speaker 1: Not a meadhead.
Speaker 2: I was even contemplating making a fake idol to try,
Speaker 2: and we've.
Speaker 1: Seen that in a previous series, mate, and I don't
Speaker 1: think you watched that in your homework episodes. It didn't
Speaker 1: work out, I.
Speaker 2: Know exactly, and I'll just it also looked.
Speaker 1: Like it made people feel that guy got eliminated, Benjamin Laura.
Speaker 1: It was, and he was eliminated because people were like
Speaker 1: that guy making a fair you know, a fake idol
Speaker 1: that rubbed people the wrong way, was like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know what.
Speaker 3: It looked like anyway, so I could have made something
Speaker 3: completely stupid and the people they know what it looked like,
Speaker 3: would have been like, you're an idiot.
Speaker 1: Okay, So last two questions finished this sentence In Australian
Speaker 1: Survivor owned to the bar.
Speaker 2: I have learned that Eddie's the best game in the world.
Speaker 1: Better than your footy. Don't throw your footy under there.
Speaker 3: I want to throw a footy under the best reality
Speaker 3: TV show in the world.
Speaker 1: That's the only one you've done. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're the rape box poppy now it is, what
Speaker 1: is something from behind the scenes, something we didn't see,
Speaker 1: something of a behind the scene secret. Obviously, so much
Speaker 1: is not shown on the show because we're fitting forty
Speaker 1: eight hours into an hour and twenty minutes. What's something
Speaker 1: from behind the scenes we didn't see that you'd like
Speaker 1: to share.
Speaker 3: I don't know, probably going back on what we said before,
Speaker 3: just how much we actually try to search for idols.
Speaker 3: I think it only gets shown the people that find
Speaker 3: the idols, but like we're out there for hours an hour.
Speaker 3: It's just like searching in the bushes for idols. Like
Speaker 3: my hands all cut up and my body's cut up
Speaker 3: from going through the bushes.
Speaker 2: I think watching some iron you're like, what, how are
Speaker 2: they looking for an idol?
Speaker 3: Why aren't they searching around the reward challenges like trust me,
Speaker 3: we we have you get out of place over like
Speaker 3: under everything.
Speaker 2: So I think that's like a big one.
Speaker 3: Just how much we actually go out there and try
Speaker 3: and get a fucking little advantage.
Speaker 1: So I swearing, that's okay. I like to swear on
Speaker 1: the podcast. I don't like to tell people to swear
Speaker 1: that they can because if you say that at the start,
Speaker 1: just so you know you can swear, then they just
Speaker 1: swear the whole way through. Yeah, no, no, no, it's fine.
Speaker 1: A couple of pepper, a cheeky swear word's good. Anyway, mate,
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you for being so generous.
Speaker 1: I've ordered a life sized banner of you to put
Speaker 1: in my podcast studio here, So thank you for that,
Speaker 1: for the inspiration and good luck with it all. And
Speaker 1: I really do hope that we get to see you
Speaker 1: again on this show. I think that a redemption storyline
Speaker 1: is in order.
Speaker 2: That be amazing, mate. Yeah, I'll try my best.
Speaker 1: Amazing. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.