Speaker 1: Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands
Speaker 1: were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders
Speaker 1: past and present.
Speaker 2: Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was
Speaker 2: recorded on Drug Wallamuta Land. Hi guys, and welcome back
Speaker 2: to another episode of Life Uncut.
Speaker 1: I'm Laura and I'm in the jungle.
Speaker 3: I'm celebrity. Get me out of here.
Speaker 1: Well you're actually, I'm not jungle. I'm Brittany.
Speaker 3: You're sitting in a studio with me right now.
Speaker 1: What the hell happened?
Speaker 3: Do you remember?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: People might not people might not have heard.
Speaker 2: I'm kidding that, just baiting them for a bit longer.
Speaker 2: And I think the jungle thing made it, given it away.
Speaker 2: Do you remember when we very first started this, we
Speaker 2: were like six months deep and then you fucked off
Speaker 2: to do the Bachelor Paradise?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you made me I did. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to do it. You held something to my head and
Speaker 1: were like get out, and then you ended up in
Speaker 1: a relationship with Tim. Lol. Don't even know cut that out.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk about that. I'm so far
Speaker 1: gone from that. We are not bringing that back into
Speaker 1: this episode.
Speaker 2: So funny. Oh bless, bless, look at you now, Babe
Speaker 2: going into the jungle. I'm a celebrity. Get me out
Speaker 2: of here. Yeah, Brittany Hockley, I feel so weird for you,
Speaker 2: and I also I feel weird for me. I feel
Speaker 2: so weird. I also am gonna be very sad. So
Speaker 2: for anyone who doesn't know Britt is going into the jungle.
Speaker 2: The show starts on Sunday, so out of here. But
Speaker 2: it means that Britt will still be on the interview episodes.
Speaker 2: But when it comes to our Tuesday and a Thursday episode,
Speaker 2: it could be two weeks, it could be six weeks
Speaker 2: that BRIT's gone.
Speaker 3: It depends on know you exaggerator. It's only a month
Speaker 3: if you win, is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The whole jungle, it may.
Speaker 3: Never come back unless we get eaten less. I could
Speaker 3: like eaten by something. It's funny.
Speaker 1: So straight away they said to me, what are you
Speaker 1: most afraid of in the jungle? And I said a
Speaker 1: hippopotamus And they're like what, And I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of hippopotamuses or hippopotami.
Speaker 3: Which one is it? Hippopotamy?
Speaker 1: I think it's hippopotamuses with a plural. It sounds so dumb,
Speaker 1: I am. Because they are outside of the mosquito. They
Speaker 1: are the most dangerous animal in Africa. I yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that the hippopotamus is the closet danger The hippotomot
Speaker 1: of my ass is the closet dangerous animal that people
Speaker 1: don't realize.
Speaker 2: Have you seen I'd petrified them? Also, what do they
Speaker 2: run through the camp? A whole herd of them?
Speaker 1: Have you seen their teeth?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like they need a brushed.
Speaker 1: Their teeth are humongous and they just chomp and they'll
Speaker 1: crush you in hard.
Speaker 2: They need to go on a reality TV show and
Speaker 2: get some free veniers after the fact, that's what they need.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was the worst joke I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: I'm the dad joker could for you after this new stint.
Speaker 2: Look at my teeth. I don't need teeth.
Speaker 3: Just so you know.
Speaker 2: I mean to give you guys the way that this
Speaker 2: is going to work over the next few weeks. Are
Speaker 2: you Sakishi is gonna be filling in for brit Yo.
Speaker 2: Delilah might make a few appearances.
Speaker 3: Delilah may also be on MIC.
Speaker 2: It'll be us, things will be exactly as normal, but
Speaker 2: it would just be produced a Keisha and I doing
Speaker 2: the episodes while britt You were gone.
Speaker 3: But genuinely, how are you feeling? It hasn't sunk in
Speaker 3: properly yet.
Speaker 1: I always said if I was going to do any
Speaker 1: other reality show, the only ones I'd do would be
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars like you did or I'm a celeb,
Speaker 1: because I just feel like they're in a different category.
Speaker 1: They're wholesome, they're family, Like I'm done obviously done with
Speaker 1: the love, but I'm done with drama, like I don't
Speaker 1: and I hope to god there's no drama in the jungle.
Speaker 1: But like, historically speaking, the show's not about that, Like
Speaker 1: people going from all walks of life.
Speaker 3: They're supposed to be friends.
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be working together to try and earn
Speaker 1: your dinner because you only get fed if you win
Speaker 1: stars together. It just looks like a lot of fun
Speaker 1: and I'm super excited to meet the other people in
Speaker 1: the jungle, Like.
Speaker 2: Do you have any idea who's going, Like is there
Speaker 2: any part of you that has an inkling or are
Speaker 2: you just completely kept in the dark?
Speaker 1: And on my heart, it is so secretive you do,
Speaker 1: it's impossible to know there is nothing leaked, and I
Speaker 1: have Google search the shit out of it.
Speaker 3: I was like, what's been leaked? Who's out?
Speaker 1: There's nothing? The speculation of so many different people. We
Speaker 1: know all the hints, like we know there's Olympians, AFL players, comedians, Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Do you know what's gonna happen? People are gonna get papped,
Speaker 2: People are gonna get paped going in. That's what happens
Speaker 2: every year. There's always some sort of leaks that happen
Speaker 2: leading up to just before it starts because they have
Speaker 2: to physically get them to Africa, and so that usually
Speaker 2: is like, oh, we have to physically go I mean no,
Speaker 2: not metaphorically going to Africa. Well, last time they just
Speaker 2: chucked them in the center of Australia or something, didn't
Speaker 2: they They just made a fake set and Byron that's
Speaker 2: so it was COVID though they did what they could do.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: And also this year, so doctor Chris Brown, the VET,
Speaker 2: he's not on it this year.
Speaker 3: This is his first year. I was doing the job.
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: And Robert is so cute like Steve as in everyone
Speaker 2: and Steve urban Terrio AND's son brother Tabindi. I feel
Speaker 2: like there was ever a TV show that he was
Speaker 2: perfectly made for.
Speaker 3: It's this show. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: I like the show and I have watched it in
Speaker 2: the past, but sometimes I don't enjoy how contrived parts
Speaker 2: of it feel, like how contrived the dynamic between the
Speaker 2: whose like, oh, it's what they lean into totally. But
Speaker 2: I actually fucking love Julia Morris a funny and she
Speaker 2: We've been so lucky in the past, like having really
Speaker 2: intimate conversations with her outside of just being you know,
Speaker 2: in the world of media, and she's always been really honest,
Speaker 2: and she's such an oversharer and she's she's just real
Speaker 2: salt of the earth, and so I think her partnered
Speaker 2: with someone like Robert could be a really awesome dynamic.
Speaker 1: A really cool thing is Robert has said, like you
Speaker 1: can only eat on the show now, like farmed animals,
Speaker 1: So you know how you have to always do those
Speaker 1: gross eating challenges where you're eating like an eyeball or something.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel sick.
Speaker 2: Things. Yeah, but also when they used to do the
Speaker 2: whole like eating a zebra penis like no one again,
Speaker 2: it's disgusting and like everyone's like, eh, the penis, but
Speaker 2: like no one actually wants to see someone eat a
Speaker 2: zebra panas no one wants to see that?
Speaker 1: Well, I think people do. I think who people love it,
Speaker 1: but people love the animals as well. Yes, but people
Speaker 1: want to see us in the jungle vomit.
Speaker 2: I want to see you eat zebra shit instead. Honestly, Wow,
Speaker 2: how okay?
Speaker 1: Tell me what you really think, Laura, No, that's my
Speaker 1: This is what I'm dreading the most right on this show.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to go. I'm so excited to meet people.
Speaker 1: The challenges look so fun, Like the actual physical challenges
Speaker 1: I don't care about. You know, when you get a
Speaker 1: question wrong and you get all this sloppy shit dropped
Speaker 1: all over you, like whatever, not going to be great.
Speaker 1: But the one thing I don't want to do two things.
Speaker 1: I don't want to skydive because I've got a heights problem.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping I don't get any of the heights
Speaker 1: and I don't want to do the eating challenge.
Speaker 3: And now you're not going to be able to avoid
Speaker 3: both well, which is the worst.
Speaker 1: Hear mere. I can avoid the eating challenges if you
Speaker 1: guys are voting for me on the right days, because
Speaker 1: I think what they do is say, like, who do
Speaker 1: you want to see in an eating challenge? And you
Speaker 1: you have to vote, So.
Speaker 2: Don't you fucking vote for me? Life, don't you vote
Speaker 2: for me? Part of me is like do we I
Speaker 2: won't see it.
Speaker 3: For the content.
Speaker 2: If you're like I don't want any drama and I
Speaker 2: don't want any challenges, I'm like, sorry, pal.
Speaker 3: Because you eat that zebra poop?
Speaker 2: Well, because no, because what it means, seriously, what it
Speaker 2: means is that you're always in the lowest amount of
Speaker 2: votes to go out each week as well.
Speaker 1: So it's like, that's how it works. The whole show
Speaker 1: is based purely on public vote. If you don't get
Speaker 1: enough votes, you're the person that leaves that week, and
Speaker 1: it just goes like that until the end. The person
Speaker 1: with the most votes wins the entire thing. Now, obviously, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I want to win.
Speaker 2: No, But I think it's this is so interesting to
Speaker 2: me because I always thought it was rigged, right, Like
Speaker 2: I believed that I'm a celebrity is reached. So there's
Speaker 2: two things that came as a surprise to me. I
Speaker 2: thought it was rigged. It's absolutely not, because it has
Speaker 2: to go through the same sort of like advisory board
Speaker 2: that lotto goes through, So it is commos.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's money for charity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so in Australia because because once you have
Speaker 2: a monetary amount that's attached to it, there's rules and
Speaker 2: regulations around how you can conduct what's called like prize winnings,
Speaker 2: and so it goes against everything I thought. But that
Speaker 2: was like my thing that I learned and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's so interesting and britt your charity
Speaker 2: is so beautiful. I'm so proud of you for choosing
Speaker 2: who you chose. So that's what this whole premise is.
Speaker 1: In case you've never watched, it is like you don't
Speaker 1: as the celebrity, which I hate even using that term.
Speaker 2: Even though every year people are like who and you
Speaker 2: know what?
Speaker 1: Okay, this is the other thing. When I get announced,
Speaker 1: I mean like when the people post more shit, people
Speaker 1: are gonna be like who is that?
Speaker 3: This is when I need you, guys. Your life is
Speaker 3: to band together and be like, oh that's Brittany, she's
Speaker 3: a podcast.
Speaker 1: We love her.
Speaker 3: I like the office like the most rogue comment wins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, why are you both against me? Challenge this right,
Speaker 1: the most who not for me? Can you fuck it?
Speaker 3: Guys?
Speaker 2: This is not just about you, britt, This is about
Speaker 2: all of the No, this is about me. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: sharing this one. I challenge you, right, the most random
Speaker 2: fact you know about Brittany. When people say the most
Speaker 2: random who is she? You need to write the most
Speaker 2: random fact that you can think of about britt and
Speaker 2: put it underneath. I don't want people to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's from life on cut podcast. I want people to
Speaker 2: be like, well, I want people be like, oh, she's
Speaker 2: the chicken's really into chicken nugget, dinosaur chicken nuggets, whatever,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: I want like, the most random thing you know.
Speaker 1: About her after all my life achievements. That's what pops
Speaker 1: to your head. Yeah, when you need to describe me,
Speaker 1: it's my chicken dinosaur nuggets.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's so sad also that you change your hairs so
Speaker 2: often that I can't keep up.
Speaker 3: But anyway, let's get back to the charity.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that is a premise, right, Like, you don't
Speaker 1: as the celebrity win money at the end. That's not
Speaker 1: what it is. You don't win a dollar, but your
Speaker 1: charity does. I think it's one hundred thousand dollars. You
Speaker 1: guys know. Over the last four to five years on
Speaker 1: this podcast, it has been very important for us to
Speaker 1: highlight women and to speak about domestic violence. From tempted
Speaker 1: murder from a partner. We've spoken to a woman whose
Speaker 1: sister was murdered in her relationship. We've spoken to somebody
Speaker 1: that survived on a killings. We've spoken to Jess Hill
Speaker 1: who was heavily involved in making coersive control illegal. We
Speaker 1: have tried to cover so many different aspects of domestic
Speaker 1: violence because the fact is it is so prevalent in Australia,
Speaker 1: and that is why I chose a charity called Rise Up,
Speaker 1: which basically helps families as a whole. So it's not
Speaker 1: just women, it's families and children, but it's predominantly women
Speaker 1: because we know that that's who it affects. They help
Speaker 1: them leave these situations and do whatever they can to
Speaker 1: help them start fresh, and that's a range of different things.
Speaker 1: Some of them will be set up in new accommodation,
Speaker 1: some of them will be giving a cash advance, some
Speaker 1: of them will be just given things that they need
Speaker 1: like clothing and appliances, well, just.
Speaker 2: The support network to be able to leave a poor
Speaker 2: relationship rise up. That's what I'm going into the jungle
Speaker 2: to be eating eyeballs and and stuff for. Hopefully I'm
Speaker 2: there at the end and we can hand over a
Speaker 2: huge amount of money. This is an area of which
Speaker 2: we have spoken about so deeply on the podcast and
Speaker 2: it also is just part of the fiber of what
Speaker 2: is DNA. Both of us we have spoken about personal
Speaker 2: reasons as to why we care about this space, but
Speaker 2: also it is just something that is not going away
Speaker 2: in the Australian landscape. It is something that you think
Speaker 2: male violence against women, how is in today's world in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. It's something that is as prevalent as
Speaker 2: it is. But every week there is stories about this
Speaker 2: and so this is an organization that helps women leave
Speaker 2: some of the hardest situations to do so. And I
Speaker 2: are like, if anything, if you don't want to vote
Speaker 2: for Britt for the child, just vote for her because
Speaker 2: she's doing good things for a charity that's amazing. Moving
Speaker 2: on from the charity aspect of the show, which is
Speaker 2: obviously one of the most important things. The reality is
Speaker 2: that you're going into the jungle and you're going to
Speaker 2: be doing all of the fucking wild stuff that you
Speaker 2: have to do. In terms of the things that you
Speaker 2: can take, like, I want to know about the logistics
Speaker 2: of it and how it works, Like what do you
Speaker 2: get to take with you inside? What do you get
Speaker 2: to like, because you get given a list of the
Speaker 2: stuff that is and isn't okay to take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you literally, I'm not exaggerating. The packing list
Speaker 1: is hilarious because there's nothing on it. You don't take anything.
Speaker 1: You get given your uniforms, like that you're wearing there,
Speaker 1: those terrible cargo shorts and that shirt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're allowed to.
Speaker 1: Take six pairs of undies and six like bralettes or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to choose, Like a sports bor I
Speaker 1: might try and smuggle in some extra undies and then
Speaker 1: a few pairs of swimmers, two or three pairs of swimmers.
Speaker 3: LL that's it.
Speaker 1: But then that is literally it. They provide you with everything.
Speaker 2: So then in terms of contrabands, every year people snick
Speaker 2: stuff in and like you, what do you do?
Speaker 3: Do you shove it up inside your side?
Speaker 2: Do you shelving like lollies.
Speaker 1: Guys, I feel bad if I.
Speaker 2: Put this on here they can't seart you down, so
Speaker 2: you've got to pack it onto your body.
Speaker 3: But like, what do you want to take it?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What would be your.
Speaker 1: Espresso machine strapped to my stomach?
Speaker 3: What were you trying to hate?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been thinking about that because I
Speaker 1: need to go this afternoon to get it. I need
Speaker 1: to get some masking.
Speaker 3: Tape, super glue, chocolate.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking not coffee because that's silly because you can't
Speaker 1: have it for the rest of the time in there anyway.
Speaker 1: So maybe like a hot chocolate or something sweet, maybe
Speaker 1: some like but you want a few, right because you
Speaker 1: don't want to go in and not have any for
Speaker 1: anyone else.
Speaker 3: You can't go in make friends the dealer. You gotta
Speaker 3: be a dealer. Do you think anyone's gonna want to
Speaker 3: have it?
Speaker 2: Snakes alive after you've pulled it out of your vagina
Speaker 2: and people would pay for that?
Speaker 3: Giving yourself that's your top, donar.
Speaker 4: Do you guys remember how Shade worn after he went
Speaker 4: on he had the condition that he was allowed to
Speaker 4: smoke in the jungle, and after that they were like
Speaker 4: no more.
Speaker 3: He was even special privileges because he's Shane warn.
Speaker 1: Well, so Kerry and Kennelly was allowed to take her
Speaker 1: home makeup bagging. I think the big dogs are allowed
Speaker 1: to know I'm not big enough. I have got no
Speaker 1: negotiation skills.
Speaker 2: You didn't try and negotiate anything I did. They said, no,
Speaker 2: do you know what I tried to negotiate? This is
Speaker 2: how sad it is. I was like, guys, I need
Speaker 2: to take a hair brush. I was like, because I
Speaker 2: have hair extensions, I can't go in without a hair
Speaker 2: brush or my head will get not and you'll have
Speaker 2: to shave my hand.
Speaker 1: You know what. The fuckers said, shave it. Oh that'd
Speaker 1: be great content.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, Britt, we will man the four
Speaker 2: while you were gone. And also, I'm so excited for you.
Speaker 2: It's so fun doing these things that put you so
Speaker 2: far outside your comfort zone, that make you kind of
Speaker 2: like just like saying yes to stuff. It's where really
Speaker 2: cool new things happen. And you know, and I say
Speaker 2: this from going back to like Bachelor days, saying yes
Speaker 2: to doing the Bachelor changed our lives forever, you know.
Speaker 2: Saying yes to quitting my job and starting Tony May
Speaker 2: changed my life forever.
Speaker 1: I also just really want to go to South Africa.
Speaker 3: It's just really but it's also really cool.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes, you know, you get big opportunities in life,
Speaker 2: and it's so easy to say no to things because
Speaker 2: there's other reasons and things that come up. But I
Speaker 2: mean us even doing this podcast, like you saying yes
Speaker 2: to this is something that is admirable.
Speaker 3: I'm so fucking excited for you. I can't wait to
Speaker 3: laugh at you on TV.
Speaker 2: And the thing that I think I'm the most excited
Speaker 2: for is the fact that we get to see the
Speaker 2: real version of bread like every day on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Will you get to see the version that you hear
Speaker 1: on the podcast?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And like, well you're a loser and it's great and
Speaker 2: we know, but you're gonna be a winner.
Speaker 3: No, I don't want to lose please Yeah maybe winner.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: But what I mean by that is, like I said
Speaker 2: this to you the other day, because sometimes I think
Speaker 2: people look at your social media and they think that
Speaker 2: you're you're perfect, they think that you're this perfect. This
Speaker 2: is also an opportunity for the Australian public not to
Speaker 2: sound like a winker, but to see the version of
Speaker 2: you that we get to see every day and that's
Speaker 2: really cool and I'm really excited for you. So just
Speaker 2: be exactly the version of yourself that we get to
Speaker 2: see because we love you.
Speaker 1: And if there's every time I need you, guys, it's now,
Speaker 1: let's make you the queen of the jungle.
Speaker 3: We can do it.
Speaker 2: I believe in our life is we can make you
Speaker 2: queen of the I literally need to go, so let's get.
Speaker 3: This episode going. All right, let's answer your questions.
Speaker 2: But before we do that, we've got vibe and unsubscribed. Baby,
Speaker 2: what's your vibe of the week?
Speaker 1: Watch my vibe, guys, I'm sticking to it. My vibe
Speaker 1: is watch I'm a celebrity, Get me out of here.
Speaker 1: It's starting Sunday this Sunday, the twenty fourth. I think
Speaker 1: it's probably on at seven thirty, but like, that is
Speaker 1: my vibe. Please watch the show. It is on channel ten.
Speaker 1: In case you didn't know, and now you do.
Speaker 3: Keisha, what is your vibe for the week.
Speaker 4: My vibe for the week is potentially a little bit niche,
Speaker 4: but it does cross over into two territories.
Speaker 3: As I have learned.
Speaker 4: If you're the type of person who wears teeth, retainers,
Speaker 4: you know, those plastic ones in Visiline is the main company,
Speaker 4: but there are a bunch of other ones. I have
Speaker 4: them and I wear them to kind of keep my
Speaker 4: teeth straight straight ye maintenance phase. They get scummy and
Speaker 4: gross over time. So I ended up investing in this thing.
Speaker 4: It's called a Zimmer dental Pod. It's Zima and.
Speaker 3: It's ultrasonic cleaning.
Speaker 4: And so look, they're not cheap. It's one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty bucks. They do not give discount codes. I tried
Speaker 4: really hard to find one. But basically, you whack them in,
Speaker 4: they're like aesthetically quite nice.
Speaker 3: You put a bit of water in.
Speaker 4: You can also put a dental pod tablet in and
Speaker 4: you press the button and it essentially vibrates heaps and
Speaker 4: it cleans your teeth plates.
Speaker 3: Do you really really?
Speaker 2: The worst thing about having those so I used to
Speaker 2: have himisil Line and then I stopped using my maintenance
Speaker 2: plate is how funky they smell.
Speaker 3: There's nothing less sexy.
Speaker 2: This is Matt every time we're about to get it on,
Speaker 2: because he'll put his britainner and then he'll get into
Speaker 2: bed and then we're like, I'll know that.
Speaker 3: It it's sexy time.
Speaker 2: If he's like, that's it, that's our foreplay, Matt ripping
Speaker 2: those stinky retainers out of his rank.
Speaker 3: But that's what you.
Speaker 2: Do, right if you If you haven't, no, he does.
Speaker 2: He puts him in that sterident stuff like that cleans dents.
Speaker 2: But if he has cleans, he like, he's in bed
Speaker 2: and we haven't thought, oh, tonight's the night and he's like,
Speaker 2: oh fuck, you call me off guard and you're getting
Speaker 2: a little bit hot and heavy, and then he has
Speaker 2: to slop those things out of his mouth.
Speaker 4: Well, anyway, if you don't want Matt to have any
Speaker 4: gross ones, we'll get him as ibidential pod because I've
Speaker 4: also learned they double.
Speaker 3: As jewelry cleaners. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't know if I would recommend that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: ultrasny cleaning does. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's an ultrasunny little cleaner. So I've put
Speaker 4: my Like you're like, I don't know, I recommend that, Laura.
Speaker 3: This is me telling you.
Speaker 4: I have put my twenty May rings in plenty of
Speaker 4: times and they are going great.
Speaker 2: Just don't put any products or chemicals in there with it,
Speaker 2: and then that's okay, all right. I have a recommendation
Speaker 2: today It is a documentary that I watched on the weekend.
Speaker 2: It is not a new documentary though, so I just
Speaker 2: want to make that known because it came out in
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, but I did not hear about it in
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, and Matt brought it up the other day
Speaker 2: and was like, I'd be really interested in watching this.
Speaker 2: And it is called One Child Nation. It's an American
Speaker 2: horror documentary.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I say that because it documents the one child policy
Speaker 2: from China and the realities behind how that was mandated.
Speaker 2: It is truly horrific. This is not light viewing for anybody,
Speaker 2: especially if you are pregnant, or if you have been
Speaker 2: through pregnancy loss.
Speaker 1: Or even just for anyone. It's really hard.
Speaker 3: It is not light viewing whatsoever.
Speaker 2: But it is incredibly, incredibly interesting, and I also think
Speaker 2: it really lifts the veil on a policy that I
Speaker 2: think from the outset and from a Western culture, we
Speaker 2: don't understand how it would have been easy to maintain.
Speaker 2: And you know, there was a lot of conversation around
Speaker 2: there being finds that people would have been subjected to
Speaker 2: if they were to have more than one child. But
Speaker 2: this goes into the immense cover up and the propaganda
Speaker 2: and also child in fanticide that occurred, forced abortion, forced
Speaker 2: sterilization of women, and it is a very comprehensive documentary. Basically,
Speaker 2: it is a Chinese woman who has left she's had
Speaker 2: her child in China. She goes back and she's interviewing midwives,
Speaker 2: she's interviewing her own family members some of the atrocities
Speaker 2: that they did in order to maintain.
Speaker 3: A one child policy.
Speaker 2: And I don't recommend this because I think it's something
Speaker 2: that you're gonna watch and you're gonna be like, oh wow,
Speaker 2: that was you know, it is truly horrific. But like
Speaker 2: I said, the way that this documentary has done is
Speaker 2: an incredible story to watch that will be news to
Speaker 2: most people who view it. I don't think most people
Speaker 2: understand what happened during that period, and it was so recent.
Speaker 2: The one child policy was so incredibly recent, and it's
Speaker 2: been lifted now and people are being recommended to have
Speaker 2: two children because of the aging population. So the issue
Speaker 2: that's happening in China now is that it is yeah
Speaker 2: that the population is aging, and it is predominantly men.
Speaker 2: Because at the time, nobody wanted to have a daughter
Speaker 2: as their only child, which means that now there is
Speaker 2: an overpopulation of men in China, there's not enough women,
Speaker 2: and that population is getting older, so they're going to
Speaker 2: be in for a situation where there's a complete reverse
Speaker 2: in what was happening twenty years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well that is on Amazon Primes on Prime Video if
Speaker 2: you do want to watch it, and it's called One
Speaker 2: Child Nation.
Speaker 3: Let's get into the questions question number one. Last month,
Speaker 3: my family and I were at the beach.
Speaker 2: This is such okay, well no, we said, there's no
Speaker 2: dumb questions, but this one is a little bit dumb.
Speaker 2: We set up our cool kabana and three beach chairs.
Speaker 2: We were there for a few hours, but decided we
Speaker 2: wanted to have lunch, packed up our beach towels, but
Speaker 2: just left the cabana and the beach chairs underneath it.
Speaker 2: A few hours later we returned and a whole family
Speaker 2: was sitting under our cabana on our beach chairs. They
Speaker 2: had their rash shirts all hung up over our cabana.
Speaker 2: We said, what are you doing here and they said
Speaker 2: they asked people nearby if anyone owned it, and when
Speaker 2: they said that they hadn't seen anyone using it for
Speaker 2: a while, they thought it.
Speaker 3: Was okay for them to use.
Speaker 2: When I asked them to leave, the mum rolled her
Speaker 2: eyes at me, and only the young boy apologized. When
Speaker 2: I told my friend about this, she said that they
Speaker 2: had every right to use our cabana and the beach chairs.
Speaker 2: This isn't correct beach etiquette, is it.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. No, it's not.
Speaker 3: No, I disagree.
Speaker 1: Sorry, You're at a beach and there is a very
Speaker 1: expensive cool cabana and beach chairs and towels.
Speaker 2: And someone says they took the towels with them, just
Speaker 2: chairs and a cabana.
Speaker 1: Okay, set up, Okay, different story than Laura.
Speaker 3: So there's a beach club, there's a cool cabana and.
Speaker 1: His beach chairs, expensive at the beach, and somebody says,
Speaker 1: excuse me, does anybody own this? No? No, it floated
Speaker 1: down and sat there on its own. Yes, someone owns it.
Speaker 1: They're probably swimming because they're at the beach. Oh, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen them in a while, because they're doing beach things.
Speaker 1: They're playing with their kids, they're in the ocean, they're
Speaker 1: getting an ice cream, they're having lunch. Whatever.
Speaker 2: No, you're incorrectly Brittany, I am.
Speaker 1: Don't you are?
Speaker 3: You're incorrect.
Speaker 2: The reason for this is that there's nothing else there
Speaker 2: that indicated that people were around.
Speaker 3: There was no bag, there's no towel.
Speaker 1: Have to be it's their personal belonging. I know.
Speaker 2: But if you're going to go away for three hours
Speaker 2: and have lunch, she said, you've gone for hours hours
Speaker 2: and just leave a couple of chairs and a cool cabana.
Speaker 1: Let the family seek some shade.
Speaker 3: You're not using it.
Speaker 2: It's just a chair and a cool cabana. Like I
Speaker 2: would feel differently if it was a towel. I would
Speaker 2: feel differently.
Speaker 3: If these people dressed in your clothes, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1: But if, like Nora, if you went to the beach
Speaker 1: and you put your beach chairs, I would never.
Speaker 3: Leave my cool cabana at a beach for three hours.
Speaker 1: Yes you would unattended. Yes, you would go and play
Speaker 1: with the girls in the pool all the time for hours.
Speaker 1: You get ice creams, you walk your kids. Don't just
Speaker 1: go and sit and kick back and relax under a
Speaker 1: cool cabana.
Speaker 3: I strong disagree.
Speaker 2: I have never been to the beach with children where
Speaker 2: I have left my belongings for hours at the beach.
Speaker 3: That doesn't and that doesn't happen. So we're underneath the cook.
Speaker 1: There's not a time limit on your belongings. There's no
Speaker 1: one policing that. You're like, they're two hour limits. Up.
Speaker 1: I'm taking I'm taking the.
Speaker 3: Kab I'm saying you can't take it.
Speaker 2: I'm saying if they were like my cabana got stoll
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, that's a bit rich.
Speaker 1: They moved in, they hung up a washing line and
Speaker 1: put their clothes on there. They were like drying. They're squatting.
Speaker 1: I think they.
Speaker 2: I would think, what's the time limitation on squorting someone's
Speaker 2: gool cabana?
Speaker 3: I think it is. I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 2: I think if there is a shade at the beach
Speaker 2: and no one is using it at all, God, oh.
Speaker 1: No, what is wrong with you? If you need to
Speaker 1: seek shade, bring your own fucking cool cabana and your
Speaker 1: own umbrella. You don't just get to go and say
Speaker 1: I'm going to take this shovel and I'll take this
Speaker 1: bucket from this girl, I'll take this tower from me.
Speaker 3: That's what happens.
Speaker 1: You don't just go and collect people's belongings to make
Speaker 1: your little house.
Speaker 3: That's what happens at the beach, though.
Speaker 2: If I go just listen, listen, O my god, let's
Speaker 2: send Lenda listen.
Speaker 1: Limmy's out there or offended.
Speaker 2: If I go to the beach with my kids and
Speaker 2: I take all of their shovels and spades and stuff,
Speaker 2: by the end of the day, I have to fucking
Speaker 2: walk up and down the beach trying to find all
Speaker 2: their bits and pieces because every other fucking kid has
Speaker 2: taken it.
Speaker 1: I always complain about it. You are, ah, yes, you.
Speaker 2: Do, true, But I also steal their stuff. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying it's normal. I'm not saying that you should
Speaker 2: run out and do it. I'm just saying that if
Speaker 2: I had left all my things at the beach, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying.
Speaker 3: I would even do it.
Speaker 2: But what I am saying is that if I left
Speaker 2: my cool obana and three chairs and nothing else at
Speaker 2: the beach for hours hours, and I came back and
Speaker 2: a family was using it, I would say, oh, hey, sorry,
Speaker 2: that's our stuff.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be like, can you leave?
Speaker 3: How dare you touched my cook obara? You know it's
Speaker 3: just a shade cloth. Who fucking cares?
Speaker 1: Nah? You're so far removed from what is normal. It's wild.
Speaker 1: Like the fact that you think that anyone can come,
Speaker 1: that your personal things belong to anyone on the beach
Speaker 1: is not normal. People spend eight hours at the beach.
Speaker 1: That's why they take a cool kabana because they want
Speaker 1: to be there all day. It's why they take their
Speaker 1: beach chairs. That's why people take eski's. It's why they've
Speaker 1: got a piece of string to hang up some clothes.
Speaker 1: Like that's the whole point. Who's hanging up their clothes?
Speaker 1: It's not survivor. They did.
Speaker 3: They just hung them over the back of the chair.
Speaker 1: They said that they hung up their shit to dry,
Speaker 1: like they'd they've settled in. They had their binoculars. They
Speaker 1: waited till a family left their cool kbarana.
Speaker 2: You know, okay, when she said the woman like I
Speaker 2: rolled her when she asked her to leave. I think
Speaker 2: it's probably because you asked her to leave with some tone.
Speaker 2: You'll probably excuse me, this is my stuff, and you
Speaker 2: get out of here.
Speaker 1: Yes, like the Three Little bears when they're leaving the bed,
Speaker 1: get out of my bed. What you can't just move
Speaker 1: into someone's shit and expect them not to be bit like, hey, sorry, like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing in Michael Barna? If you if
Speaker 1: you someone, if you came back to your little setup
Speaker 1: and there was an entire family that had moved in,
Speaker 1: you cannot tell me that you wouldn't be likery. Sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Like I come back and say, hey, guys, this is
Speaker 3: my chair in mac Obarna.
Speaker 1: Which is probably what she did. That's probably what she did,
Speaker 1: and she got the attitude and eye roll like this
Speaker 1: family thinks there are squorters they can score anyway. They
Speaker 1: probably just moved down to Cheryld's cool cabana down the beach, like,
Speaker 1: get your own cool cabana. I get it. If it's
Speaker 1: like I get.
Speaker 3: It, Can we say Cookobata one more time?
Speaker 1: It's not even sponsored.
Speaker 2: I know, cook a, buta if you should sponsor this episode,
Speaker 2: how dare you? They don't even need the sponsorship. Every
Speaker 2: single motherfucker has one of those in the beach these days.
Speaker 2: It's just to see a Cookabata. Let's stop saying the
Speaker 2: name shake cloth. Okay, let's insert shade cloth into every Cookabana.
Speaker 2: I genuinely this is what I would think, right if
Speaker 2: I had a cook a Baranna and I came back
Speaker 2: and there was a mom with a little baby under it,
Speaker 2: and she's.
Speaker 1: Like, so, I'm so sorry. I was just seeking some shade.
Speaker 1: I'm like, of course, of course, it's fine. That's not
Speaker 1: the problem. Like, totally fine. Mike cool, Kbana my shade cloth.
Speaker 2: He's always it's your shade cloth is going to be
Speaker 2: a castle cloth, your cuss a cloth.
Speaker 1: He shared your shade. Yeah, I think that that's fine.
Speaker 1: The thing here is the the entitlement this family had
Speaker 1: to think that it was a free for all, and
Speaker 1: the audacity they had to roll their eyes when the
Speaker 1: owner asked them to move. I just the question is,
Speaker 1: do you think that this is correct beach etiquette.
Speaker 3: No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I just genuinely don't. And I think this has going
Speaker 1: up as a pole anyway.
Speaker 3: That's a question too.
Speaker 1: Okay, that was hectic pole it okay.
Speaker 3: Question number two.
Speaker 1: I had a friendship of ten plus years who was
Speaker 1: my best friend and had been through everything with me.
Speaker 1: This friendship ended last year. The friendship in itself got
Speaker 1: quite toxic towards the end, probably the last few years.
Speaker 1: I'd say where I found that I wasn't happy in
Speaker 1: the friendship. And I felt I was stepping on eggshells
Speaker 1: all the time. So it's definitely a relief that we
Speaker 1: are no longer friends. However, it's hard not to look
Speaker 1: back on all the good memories and the good times
Speaker 1: we had. I feel like I'm literally coming out of
Speaker 1: a toxic romantic relationship. I know I'm better off without them,
Speaker 1: but it's still really sad. Now that I'm coming out
Speaker 1: of this friendship, I find myself looking around at other
Speaker 1: female friendships and I feel sad. I have friends, but
Speaker 1: I feel like it's all on that superficial level, and
Speaker 1: I'm never truly myself the way I was with her.
Speaker 1: My question is, how do people make good, pure friendships
Speaker 1: in their twenties.
Speaker 2: I love this question because I think we give so
Speaker 2: much airtime to romantic relationships. But big female friendship or
Speaker 2: big friendships of any gender, are the same as going
Speaker 2: through big romantic relationship breakdowns, right, and they feel the same.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they feel worse because you don't have any of
Speaker 2: the tools to figure out, Okay, well, what am I
Speaker 2: supposed to do here or how am I supposed to
Speaker 2: feel here?
Speaker 3: The thing about when you lose.
Speaker 2: A big friendship like that a friendship that's taken up
Speaker 2: so much space in your life, someone who shared so
Speaker 2: many memories, someone who's like connected with you on so
Speaker 2: many things. What you can't do is you can't compare
Speaker 2: your new friendships or your friendships that are quote unquote
Speaker 2: more superficial to that friendship, because they never ever, ever
Speaker 2: will stack up.
Speaker 3: The intensity of the connection is never going to.
Speaker 2: Stack up to the friendship that was a decade long,
Speaker 2: because you spent a decade building that connection, You spent
Speaker 2: a decade getting to that level of comfortability. It didn't
Speaker 2: exist when you very very first met each other, and
Speaker 2: it's not going to exist when you very first meet
Speaker 2: someone new and start a friendship there either. And we
Speaker 2: do this in romantic relationships too. We can get out
Speaker 2: of long term relationships, especially if you're the one broken
Speaker 2: up with you start dating, and you go nothing compares
Speaker 2: to them, No one I've meant, nothing I have experienced,
Speaker 2: compares to that person who you hold up on this pedestal.
Speaker 2: And it's because, of course, no one's going to compare
Speaker 2: to the many things that you have invested and shared
Speaker 2: with them.
Speaker 3: So I think, firstly knowing that this is.
Speaker 2: Very normal and it's a normal part of a friendship
Speaker 2: and relationship ratedown whatever that relationship is.
Speaker 3: But also you have to give it.
Speaker 2: Time to invest in those In the relationships that you
Speaker 2: say are superficial, or in the friendship that you say
Speaker 2: aren't necessarily giving you what your past one did, you
Speaker 2: have to give it time to allow for those friendships
Speaker 2: to evolve into that too. And I do think it
Speaker 2: is a kind of a bit of a balancing act
Speaker 2: between finding the friends that you have the same or
Speaker 2: similar chemistry with, but also giving it time and doing
Speaker 2: things with them that will allow you to get to
Speaker 2: that place where you feel as though they're your best
Speaker 2: friend at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: I do think it is way harder to make those
Speaker 1: deep friendships in your twenties and thirties as an adult.
Speaker 1: It's harder to meet someone that's on your level, and
Speaker 1: it's harder to find the time to make those connections.
Speaker 1: It's harder to find the time because you're an adult
Speaker 1: and adults come with responsibility. Adults come with families, and
Speaker 1: they come with more of a workload and more pressure
Speaker 1: and more. I hate to say this, but really serious
Speaker 1: things happening in people's lives as adults, like you're older,
Speaker 1: your family's older people are passing away, Like, and I
Speaker 1: know that sounds really serious, but like it's just different
Speaker 1: when you're in your teens and your early twenties. Life's
Speaker 1: different to twenties, thirties, forties. So I have often found
Speaker 1: that that's probably why I have a small friendship group
Speaker 1: like Keisha and you, Laura some of my closest friends.
Speaker 1: And that's because we work together, because we are forced
Speaker 1: to spend those time together. But a boy, don't look
Speaker 1: at me like that. I'm sure you wem your weigh in.
Speaker 3: As well, haha.
Speaker 2: But also when you say we're forced to work together,
Speaker 2: like we came together as friends, you made that sound
Speaker 2: so grim only friends of you.
Speaker 3: Because we're forced to spend time together.
Speaker 1: I don't mean forced, but like we get to eight
Speaker 1: hours a day together because we work together, So there's
Speaker 1: no other relationship in my life that I have eight
Speaker 1: hours at a time to spend with a person to
Speaker 1: develop the relationship totally.
Speaker 2: And also, like our situation is very unique because the
Speaker 2: lines are so blurred because what we share as friends
Speaker 2: became our work. So we talk about all the life
Speaker 2: stuff and then that also is.
Speaker 3: Part of our job.
Speaker 2: So it's a very unique situation that most people wouldn't
Speaker 2: have in their workplaces. I agree with you, Britt, I
Speaker 2: think it is harder to be able to reach that
Speaker 2: depth of friendship when you are a little bit older.
Speaker 3: But I definitely don't think that that's impossible.
Speaker 2: There are loads of people who you know, make new
Speaker 2: friends in their twenties and in their thirties, and those friendships,
Speaker 2: you know, our sole connections where they feel this, you know,
Speaker 2: very very deep friendship with that person.
Speaker 3: But you have to make time for it.
Speaker 2: You have to make space for it, and has to
Speaker 2: be somebody else who also is in a similar time
Speaker 2: of life who can make time and space for you also.
Speaker 2: And I guess, knowing that this is your priority, I
Speaker 2: just think be gentle with yourself in terms of.
Speaker 3: Thinking.
Speaker 2: You know, I look back on this relationship and I
Speaker 2: think about our friendship that we had, and you're always
Speaker 2: going to have fondness for it. And I say this
Speaker 2: because it's from my own experience. One of my closest
Speaker 2: friends all through school, all through my twenties, we're you know,
Speaker 2: literally inseparable best friends. And I would have compared our
Speaker 2: friendship to a romantic relationship in terms of like the
Speaker 2: intensity of friendship. We spoke all the time, every day,
Speaker 2: did everything together. We had a big friendship breakdown and
Speaker 2: it was just before her wedding, and it really ended
Speaker 2: quite terribly. I'm not sad that she's not a part
Speaker 2: of my life anymore, because I think that in some
Speaker 2: way ways it's easier. But I absolutely still think of
Speaker 2: her in the same way that sometimes I reminisce on,
Speaker 2: like you know, the really great things of ex relationships
Speaker 2: that you think about and you go, I can't believe
Speaker 2: that person was so important to my life and now
Speaker 2: I never ever get to speak to them. And you
Speaker 2: never know, maybe in time this person will come back
Speaker 2: into your life and you will get another opportunity to
Speaker 2: redo your friendships. Sometimes friendships just need breathing space, especially
Speaker 2: if they turn toxic.
Speaker 1: But also what you've said is really normal, just to
Speaker 1: reiterate that like friendships are like relationships, they come and go,
Speaker 1: and that cliche, Laura, you would have posted it in
Speaker 1: your quotes era. Friendships are for a season, not a
Speaker 1: reason like this all.
Speaker 3: No, it's a season, a reason or a lifetime whatever.
Speaker 1: Laura would know.
Speaker 3: Probably Apple never falls fas f. No, it really is
Speaker 3: a season water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, first in best dress. So what you said earlier,
Speaker 1: Laura is very important that when you are seeking out friendships,
Speaker 1: it's not imperative and it's not the end of the world,
Speaker 1: but it goes along way to make sure that the
Speaker 1: people that you're hanging out with are in your stage
Speaker 1: of life. Even when you think of like when you're
Speaker 1: going out in a group of friends, you're all single,
Speaker 1: you're partying, you're having fun, you have so much time
Speaker 1: to catch up with each other, and then one of
Speaker 1: them gets in a relationship and you realize it's not
Speaker 1: so much harder. They're still around, but not as often
Speaker 1: because their priorities have shifted. They're in a different stage.
Speaker 1: So that's the one thing that I want people to
Speaker 1: keep in mind when you're searching for friendships, because it's
Speaker 1: a question we get a lot we might want to
Speaker 1: have friendships in their twenties and thirties and they don't
Speaker 1: know how to do it.
Speaker 3: But that is like a key part.
Speaker 2: But I do think most people, and I don't want
Speaker 2: to say most because I want anyone who has an
Speaker 2: experience this to feel left out, but a lot of
Speaker 2: people do have a friendship or friendship throughout their lives
Speaker 2: that are a different level to most friendships. There is
Speaker 2: that intense friendship which is almost like they are your soulmate.
Speaker 2: You speak to them all the time. And that's the
Speaker 2: comparison I made where I'm talking about they almost feel
Speaker 2: like a romantic relationship, but without the romance. I don't
Speaker 2: think that those friendships with that level of intensity where
Speaker 2: you're completely entwined in each other's lives can stay at
Speaker 2: that level forever. I think that that eventually either something implodes,
Speaker 2: something turns toxic, or you both move into different stages
Speaker 2: of life and the friendship mellows in a way that
Speaker 2: is more manageable, because you simply cannot maintain a friendship
Speaker 2: of that intensity for forever without anything ever changing. And
Speaker 2: I think often more often than not, it changes in
Speaker 2: a healthy way in terms that you aren't like, you know,
Speaker 2: part of the same DNA. You start to kind of
Speaker 2: just have other things that are priorities in life, whether
Speaker 2: that's new relationships, whether that's kids, whether it's work, whatever
Speaker 2: that looks like for you. But often what can happen
Speaker 2: in those types of friendships is that for one one person,
Speaker 2: a new priority has popped up, the other person feels
Speaker 2: deeply jealous and left out, and that causes a lot
Speaker 2: of the toxicity as well. So I think it's a
Speaker 2: very big thing around, like managing friendships, and friendships is
Speaker 2: such an important relationship that we have in our life,
Speaker 2: but we don't have anywhere near as many tools to
Speaker 2: manage them as what we do romantic relationships, and they
Speaker 2: get so little airtime. The only other thing I want
Speaker 2: to add to this is you asked how do you
Speaker 2: make new friends as an adult? We've spoken about these loads.
Speaker 2: We've spoken about, you know, do new things, trying new hobbies,
Speaker 2: go do sport, like those types of obvious things that
Speaker 2: you can do. Recently, we interviewed Ali Walker on an
Speaker 2: episode on Loneliness and we spoke about this idea of
Speaker 2: friendship and like how do people make friends in their
Speaker 2: twenties and their thirties, And she even commented on often
Speaker 2: the advice is things I do a new sport, open
Speaker 2: up your circle in order to make new connections. But
Speaker 2: one thing she mentioned, which I think often gets forgotten,
Speaker 2: and it was such a great point, is the repetition
Speaker 2: showing up at the same time doing the same things,
Speaker 2: so that way you can build those networks. So say
Speaker 2: it is that you're doing a sport, but you're doing
Speaker 2: it with the same team, you're doing it on the
Speaker 2: same day. Because often you might go, Okay, I'll join
Speaker 2: a gym class, but then the people who are in
Speaker 2: that gym class are transient. So it's making sure that
Speaker 2: you are doing the same thing where you're being exposed
Speaker 2: to the same people, and it's over time that gives
Speaker 2: you the opportunity to build those deeper connections and to
Speaker 2: really figure out who you have a connection with and
Speaker 2: chemistry with.
Speaker 1: Okay, next question. This was a long one. I think
Speaker 1: it's a good one, and I'm just gonna like summarize
Speaker 1: it into a nice little package.
Speaker 2: Very short, sharp, cute, sexy, surmise, surmize it.
Speaker 1: Surmise somehow us So long story short, This girl and
Speaker 1: this boy have men and woman have been together for
Speaker 1: a little while. His sex drive has been declining. She
Speaker 1: has noticed, and she's also noticed that on his explore
Speaker 1: page on his Instagram it was just like shock, a
Speaker 1: block of bikini's half nude, you know, g strings, very
Speaker 1: sexy page and like just.
Speaker 3: Use pornhub, why the fuck use instagrams?
Speaker 1: Well, she has said, it's obviously the Explore page gives
Speaker 1: you what you look at, right, So she's like, I've
Speaker 1: seen a page of all this sexy shit. I know
Speaker 1: that obviously that's what it's feeding him, because that's what
Speaker 1: he's looking at. So she asked him straight up and
Speaker 1: he admitted that he jacks off to Instagram models. I
Speaker 1: guess sometimes it models chicks in bikinis on Instagram. That's
Speaker 1: what he is jacking off to.
Speaker 3: Oh yuck.
Speaker 1: Now, she wants to know if this is a problem
Speaker 1: or if she's overreacting. I have thoughts and feelings, but
Speaker 1: you can hear me first, Laura.
Speaker 2: I think if it's a problem to you, it's a problem.
Speaker 2: If it's affecting your relationship, it's a problem. If it
Speaker 2: makes you feel insecure, it's a problem. Like all of
Speaker 2: those things. To me, feel like, yes, it's a problem.
Speaker 2: My thing with Instagram and the reason why I have
Speaker 2: way more of an issue with my partner jacking off
Speaker 2: to chicks on Instagram than I do to them doing
Speaker 2: it for porn for example.
Speaker 3: And we've spoken about this.
Speaker 2: I know some people are not comfortable with porn and
Speaker 2: they don't want their partners to use it at all,
Speaker 2: I don't mind. I feel differently about porn because I
Speaker 2: feel like it's purpose built for that. The people who
Speaker 2: are on there know that that's what people are doing
Speaker 2: with that content. I also feel like the people like
Speaker 2: it's exactly that it's purpose built. On Instagram, it's different
Speaker 2: for a couple of reasons. One, it feels exploitive of
Speaker 2: the women who are on Instagram, the fact that there's
Speaker 2: some Dudeeney's bedroom jack and off, which that wasn't the
Speaker 2: purpose of it being posted.
Speaker 3: But the other part of this is, and.
Speaker 2: The thing that I think is the bigger issue, is
Speaker 2: that women on Instagram, especially like influencers, girls in bikinis, whatever,
Speaker 2: they are also accessible people, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And actually maybe that's not the bigger issue, but it's
Speaker 2: something that would make me feel insecure.
Speaker 3: They're accessible people, you know.
Speaker 2: And I remember a girlfriend of mine telling me that
Speaker 2: her boyfriend was really like looking at this one girl's
Speaker 2: Instagram a lot, and she was an influencer and she's like,
Speaker 2: but the reason why I have an issue with this
Speaker 2: is because she lives in the same suburb. Like we've
Speaker 2: seen her at the beach. She's not this like unattainable.
Speaker 2: You know, angela white person on YouTube or on porn
Speaker 2: or whatever. She's like, this is someone who is accessible
Speaker 2: to him. And so it feels weird to me that
Speaker 2: that's where he shooting me.
Speaker 3: Shot hah literally.
Speaker 2: But also I think in general, and this goes beyond Instagram,
Speaker 2: if someone is masturbating so much, that's causing an issue
Speaker 2: you in your sex life, in your relationship, regardless of
Speaker 2: what the content is. That is a reason to be upset.
Speaker 2: It's impacting your relationship. And how did he respond when
Speaker 2: you said that you were upset? You know, when you
Speaker 2: said that this is something that hurts me, and you're like,
Speaker 2: am I overreacting? He first lied about it, Okay, did
Speaker 2: he make you feel like you were overreacting?
Speaker 3: Did he gaslight you?
Speaker 2: Here's response and the way that he deals with that
Speaker 2: information and deals with your feelings of hurt says a
Speaker 2: lot about him, more so than it says about your
Speaker 2: reaction to the situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so some extra information there. They're twenty five
Speaker 1: and twenty seven. They both still live at their respective
Speaker 1: family homes. They're going to move out next year, but
Speaker 1: she said she only tries to initiate sex as it
Speaker 1: is once a week, because that's just their situation, and
Speaker 1: it's still a problem. So one hundred percent, the problem
Speaker 1: isn't even just that it's Instagram women. The problem is
Speaker 1: that he is preferring and prioritizing masturbation through the week
Speaker 1: to things that are on a screen as a posed
Speaker 1: to putting that effort and time and energy into relation
Speaker 1: and come into your relationship, into you. Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: is the issue here. I don't have a problem with
Speaker 1: my partner masturbating at all. I mean, even if I
Speaker 1: lived with him, right, Like, I know, I'm in a
Speaker 1: long distance relationship, so it's different. I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with him doing that. He's going to need to
Speaker 1: do that. But even if I lived with them, I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem if they want to do that,
Speaker 1: if it doesn't affect our relationship, Like I don't even
Speaker 1: want to know about it, to be honest, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm like, as long as I still feel like I'm
Speaker 1: getting what I need and that intimacy and the chemistry and.
Speaker 2: The excitement or whatever is still there.
Speaker 1: But when you're not living together in your relationship and
Speaker 1: you're only seeing each other once a week, if they
Speaker 1: are still not wanting to have sex and you do
Speaker 1: want to have sex, then that is the problem. He
Speaker 1: is not meeting your needs and you need to figure
Speaker 1: out why is he not meeting your needs because he's
Speaker 1: masturbating too much, or is he not meeting your needs
Speaker 1: for a different reason. You guys are not connecting on
Speaker 1: some level. Has he got other things going on? Because
Speaker 1: it might not be like men can masturbate and still
Speaker 1: have sex. One doesn't have to cancel out the other.
Speaker 1: So I would be trying to find out the exact
Speaker 1: reason why he feels like he doesn't want to be
Speaker 1: with you in that moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so glad you said that, Britt, because there's
Speaker 2: definitely a few ways to split this question. I think
Speaker 2: the very obvious place to go to, and it's where
Speaker 2: everyone kind of thinks originally, is like, oh, well, he's
Speaker 2: looking at these girls on Instagram. He's a bad guy,
Speaker 2: and therefore it's affecting your relationship and he's not having
Speaker 2: sex with you, And it's just that he is the
Speaker 2: problem and the Instagram's the problem. There may be other
Speaker 2: bigger issues in your relationship, and yes, he is going
Speaker 2: to Instagram and looking at models in order to pleasures
Speaker 2: and does But no, everyone doesn't necessarily do that. But
Speaker 2: what I mean is is that that might not be
Speaker 2: what the bigger issue is in your relationship and the intimacy.
Speaker 2: It could be caused by him masturbating too much and
Speaker 2: then not wanting to have sex with you, but there
Speaker 2: also could be something else that's the reason why he's
Speaker 2: not wanting to. So it's really having some very important
Speaker 2: conversations around why is his sex strive so low when
Speaker 2: it comes to being with you verse why does he
Speaker 2: feel as though he wants to prioritize pleasuring himself rather
Speaker 2: than prioritizing your relationship. There are big questions, and there
Speaker 2: could be very different reasons to the ones that seem
Speaker 2: so obvious to us at the moment. But just going
Speaker 2: back to this idea of like dating a guy who
Speaker 2: uses Instagram as a channel for following hot chicks. It's
Speaker 2: pretty juvenile and it feels pretty gross, Like if that's
Speaker 2: his only if that's his.
Speaker 3: Entire explore page is chicks in bikinis.
Speaker 1: I would want to yours, open yours right now.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's one hundred percent plants. It is
Speaker 2: so many plants. But if that's his entire, entire Instagram feed.
Speaker 2: Is that Instagram algorithm is saying, Oh, this guy just
Speaker 2: wants to look at chicks in bikinis. I would feel
Speaker 2: like that really sort of shows the quality of the person,
Speaker 2: like that, that's what he is on his mind, that's
Speaker 2: what his interests are, and it would make me question
Speaker 2: him as you know, as a whole. So and I
Speaker 2: don't want to go too deep because we know, at
Speaker 2: the end of the day is just Instagram. But but
Speaker 2: it is not normal for your partner's Instagram to be
Speaker 2: ninety percent chicks in long bikinis.
Speaker 3: It's just not I.
Speaker 1: Don't have one. I just opened my Explore page. I
Speaker 1: didn't have one male on my explore page. My exploor
Speaker 1: page is Taylor Swift, Margot, Robbie Fashion, a bit of
Speaker 1: tennis and that's it.
Speaker 2: Well, I okay, my Explore page is brit I'm not joking.
Speaker 2: Plant plant, plant, plant, jewelry, plants, paintings, plants, more jewelry,
Speaker 2: says a lot about us. More jewelry, more jewelry, self help.
Speaker 2: One chicken a bikini and she's a mum, hold and
Speaker 2: a baby. But the other thing I want to say
Speaker 2: on this is that some people might think that this
Speaker 2: is normal because it's normal to them, Like they open
Speaker 2: their boyfriend's phone and it's just chicks in bikinis, and
Speaker 2: that's become normal, and you think, oh, that's what all
Speaker 2: guys phones are. Like I guarantee you that I open
Speaker 2: Matt's phone and I look at his explore page and
Speaker 2: there is hardly any.
Speaker 3: Chicks in bikini. Let's do that.
Speaker 1: Let's go and make Ben and Matt show us export page.
Speaker 1: Take screenshot and see what it is.
Speaker 2: Everyone and as Yeah, go and get your partner's phone
Speaker 2: and look at their explore page, because it does give
Speaker 2: you an indication.
Speaker 1: We're starting fights over nothing. Don't do that, go and
Speaker 1: fight your husband. It's not healthy. Don't do it.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, that's in produced.
Speaker 1: She's looking at hers now.
Speaker 2: She It is true, he can look up whatever he wants,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. It does make me question if
Speaker 2: you're using Instagram for that sole purpose of perving on
Speaker 2: other chicks. For most people, there is a line as
Speaker 2: to how appropriate versus inappropriate that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely happy for Ben to look
Speaker 1: at chicks I think is healthy, because I know it
Speaker 1: doesn't affect our relationship. Yeah, I'm never going to say
Speaker 1: it like I follow hot dudes reading on trains. That's hot.
Speaker 1: It's like my favorite page.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just as.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a plethora of that's what it's masturbating to.
Speaker 1: Yes, anyway, well that.
Speaker 3: Is it from us, guys.
Speaker 2: We've answered your questions for the very last time we
Speaker 2: have it. Yes, you guys will still be answering questions,
Speaker 2: but I am out of here. I'm heading into the
Speaker 2: South African jungle for I'm a celebrity giving out of
Speaker 2: here either, I know, I actually am.
Speaker 3: I refuse to. I'll see you here on Monday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you will see me, but on the TV, which
Speaker 1: is so it's gonna be so weird. It's like the
Speaker 1: Truman Show, right, like you're locked in a little bubble
Speaker 1: and everyone just gets to watch on.
Speaker 3: I can't wait for them to get some video of you.
Speaker 3: Just like picking your.
Speaker 1: Nose really grow you gonna wedgy out?
Speaker 3: That's fine. Wedgies are fine, but nose picking is a
Speaker 3: bit gross.
Speaker 1: On National team, I have seen a lot of past
Speaker 1: contestants pick their noses because you just live day to
Speaker 1: day and like you get stuff up there. You've got
Speaker 1: to get them out. You've got no tissues. I would
Speaker 1: We're gonna do.
Speaker 2: It because I have particularly block sinuses, but I'm always
Speaker 2: picking my nose sponsor anyway, guys, that is it from us.
Speaker 2: We will be reminding you. Keisha and I will be
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Speaker 3: And even if you suck and you do not win,
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