WEBVTT - Kyle Sandilands: Australian Idol - Judge 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.680 TV Reload the podcast last week that line and welcome 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.119 TV Reload listeners. My name is Benjamin Norris and this 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:11.160 is your podcast to get all the inside goss on 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.240 the popular TV shows you may be watching from around 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:17.680 the world. Undeniably, our TV sets are a major part 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.400 of our home entertainment and very little is known about 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.439 how our favorite shows get made. 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Kyle Sanderlanz is an Australian 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:00.000 radio host and television personality. You would know him from 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.880 the popular radio show The Kyle and Jackie Oh Show 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.760 on Kiss FM. He has also hosted countless TV shows, 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.480 but nothing as iconic as his turn on Australian Idol. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.320 Kyle is a polarizing character, and that's not a negative. 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:17.520 I love him for his brutal honesty and his sense 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.240 of humor, and it's interesting to hear him talk about 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:24.160 the version he created from the original series, which finished 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:25.119 fourteen years ago. 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.679 I was sort of playing a role almost back in 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.000 the old day, still me but this time around, I 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:31.240 just feel a lot more comfortable. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.840 We will find out what he will bring to the 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.399 return of Idol and what advice he has for the 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:37.400 young contestants. 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.440 I just think these kids they need as much advice 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.040 and guid's as possible, and then it's up to them 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:43.720 to pick it up and run with the ball. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.240 I will also ask about his current relationship with former 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.480 hosts Dicko and Mark holden Well. 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.320 I thought Mark was dead, but apparently he's still alive. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.600 We will talk about those former judges and if they 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.080 were actually asked to return. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:58.880 I think they came to me first. If I'd have 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.080 said no, they might have gone to Marsha and then 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:02.480 down the line. Down the line. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.800 This year, Australian Idol is back, and we will find 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.240 out what Kyle thought of the new set of judges, 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.359 including Harry Connick JUNR Like. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.520 Harry doesn't like me very much, but that's a bit prickly, 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.239 but that's okay, but he's definitely worth his while. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.720 We will also get some exclusive stories from Kyle Sanderlance 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.200 and I feel like this chat is the perfect way 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.240 to kick off the reboot of Australian Idol, which debuts 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:28.360 on Channel ten this Monday, the thirtieth of January. However, 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.840 we really should bring Kyle into the podcast. He's in 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.600 the car and on the fly, but sometimes that's the 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.800 best way to chat with him. So guys, I hope 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.560 you enjoyed this episode. I promise you it's going to 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.240 be a wild ride. Hi, Kyle, I'm so happy to 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.280 have you on the podcast having a chat right now. 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.480 You've got the driving in the traffic, but that's all 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:50.600 technology is like. 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:51.520 Good to see you. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:53.800 Well, I get to talk to you about Australian Idol 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.960 and I am loving this show. I was thrilled to 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.720 see that you came back for the format. Not only 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:01.960 was show a favorite of mine, but I thought that 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.079 you were super entertaining when you joined the original. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:06.120 Oh thank you mate. 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:07.800 Well, you know, to tell you the truth, I was 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.840 so nervous because I used to watch the show and 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.600 then when Dicko left. Remember Dicko left because he thought 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.760 he could do any show, and he was like he 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.560 was bigger than everything, and off he went to do 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.919 some dud some cooking show that failed. Anyway. He eventually 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.160 came back. But when I first went there and sat 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.000 in the chair, you know they brought me in. I 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:26.760 knew for a couple of reasons, because I was a 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.919 bit lippy like Dinko was, and also that I came 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.560 from a different angle from the commercial side of the 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.960 music business, where we're pushing the music out on the 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:36.920 radio or Channel V or MTV or. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:37.839 Whatever it was of the day. 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.800 But I was very nervous and I was sort of 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.400 playing a role almost back in the old day, still me, 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.480 but this time around, I just feel a lot more 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.560 comfortable and pretty much charged. 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.240 So it's fun, it's relaxing. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.760 Interestingly enough, you know, Dicko left to go and do Survivor, 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.760 and then now you're up against Survivor, so like this 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.040 is very serendipitous. 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.800 Well, Jackie, who I worked with on the radio, sheesus 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:01.720 of hands. So I said, what are you going to 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:02.080 be doing? 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:02.840 Because you know, we. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.320 All love a bit of maths and we all love 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.880 Survivor And now Idol's back, and I was like, where's 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.840 your where are you going? I'm one hundred percent she 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.560 wants the nostalgia of Idol like she misses, she misses it. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.320 Did you ever think that you would come back and 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:16.960 do this show again? I mean, you know there was 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.440 There's been fourteen years since we last saw it. Did 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.040 you ever think you'd come back and do it again? 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.440 Well, after I got fired, I thought, that's it to 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:24.760 me and I loved that show. 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.599 I was spewing. I went on to do X Factor 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.200 in Australia's Got Talent and stuff like that, but they 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.480 were never the same as Idol. Like Idols the Juggernau. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.560 Idol is the big one that's world makes worldwide stars 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.120 like and so I tried to sort of patch the 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:43.159 wound of that firing, you know, by doing the other shows, 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.479 but it was never the same. And I've done a 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.839 few TV shows since over the years, but nothing gave 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:50.880 me the same sort of scratch that that thing did. 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.640 So when Channel seven came knocking and they were like, 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.200 what are we going to do to get back on TV? 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.400 And I was like, oh god, I'm being romance here. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.440 I don't really want I said nothing. I'd do idol. 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.040 That's about it. That's all we're here to talk about. 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.040 So there was a few non negotiables for me as 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.960 an audience, and I'm pleased to say that the format. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.359 Is very true to the original. 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.000 Did you offer any notes before coming back when they 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:13.880 were willing you to come back and do the show. 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.200 There was a few things that were a bit disappointing 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.120 the first round because when you do it year after year, 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.120 you know, they could never sing an original song or 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:23.720 there was no accompaniment. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.839 There was no piano or guitar or anything. 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.120 And you know, some some people need that bit of magic, 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.880 you know, to show their true skill. So there was that, 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.279 and there was like even in my mind when I 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.159 was first auditioning, I was like, if you ain't Britney Spears, 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:41.400 I wasn't interested, you know, But music, the artists themselves 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.520 have evolved and like you can be anyone in any shape, size, 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.679 any age, which is their new thing, and be super 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.839 successful so I think we've all grown up as listeners 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.279 and purchases of music, and also me on the panel, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.840 I'm looking for something different. I'm looking for someone who 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:02.520 can sustain this has career, not just you know, has 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.560 a one trick pony song that they can, you know, 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:05.440 sound good at. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.159 You've got to look a little bit deeper than just 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:08.000 what they show you. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.159 Well, I love how honest you while with these contestants 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:11.479 on the show. I mean that was what I was 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.279 nervous about. I was like, twenty twenty three, we all 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.919 have to be so careful about what we say to people. However, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.480 you give them some really great tough love on this show, 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.400 which is what you need if you're going to survive 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:23.600 in this industry. But I've always wanted to know where 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.320 did you learn that tough love from? 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.080 And honestly, I was just I was just a hustler 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.240 as a kid because I was sort of on my 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.039 own early and it was like make or break, and 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.560 you know, I felt every mistake. If I made a mistake, 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.200 I didn't eat, or I didn't have anywhere to live, 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:38.359 or I didn't have anywhere to sleep. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:39.800 So I just learned. 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:43.039 Early and I knew that you can't treat everyone exactly 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.480 the same. You know, some people you can wrestle with, 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.080 and some people will never be able to be wrestled with. 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.880 They can only respond through them through a hug. So 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.359 you're almost going to be a chameleon. You can't just 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.320 be the same harsh person over and over, because what 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.400 you want is your message to connect with the person, 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.280 or your advice to sink in, whether they use it 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:02.960 or not. Like you know, I've had a lot of 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.800 advice from a lot of different people. Some I take 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.080 it in, I inhale it and other stuff and think, ah, 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:09.960 that might work for you, but that's not really for me. 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.200 So I just think these kids they need as much 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.120 advice and guidance as possible and then it's up to 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.040 them to pick it up and run with the ball. 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.640 Yeah, well you need to have that thicker skin. I mean, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.000 it's one of the one of those industries where it's 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.440 basically impossible. And if they're going to be on television 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.680 and getting the critiques from the people on Twitter and 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.120 on Instagram, you know they've got they've got to know. 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.640 It's no good because some of these people can they 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.600 can be absolutely crushed by one person saying some horrible 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.200 comment online. I was like, you know, I told a 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.200 few of them, you know, name someone that you think 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.600 everyone would love, and they were like, oh, you know, Jesus, 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.320 Ronald McDonald and Beyonce. Everyone loves them, no one would 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.520 hate them. And then I showed them They've got actual, 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:55.840 dedicated websites of hate out there floating around online too, Jesus, 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.320 Beyonce and Ronald McDonald. So I was like, there is 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.080 no one immune from someone, not like. All you can 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.840 do is do your best, stand by who you are 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:05.760 and what you believe in, and put your best foot 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.320 forward and then be prepared to take the negatives with 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:09.000 the positives. 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.960 I think if you're on television or if you're in 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.160 the media, what people need to realize is that there's 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.640 as many people out there that loves you that hates you, 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.640 because if you have that currency that resonates with an audience, 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:22.840 you are polarizing, you are engaging people fascinated, and there's 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.360 going to be two sides of that coin, always. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.440 Exactly exactly, and you actually need to have both to 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.680 be big enough to be successful and make an earning 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:33.920 and living out of this. You know, you can only 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.360 I said, there's three groups of people. People who love you, 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.880 people who hate you, and people who could care less. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:39.960 And don't even know your existence. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.200 Service Only the people that like you and hope to take, 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.440 you know, from the people who don't know anything about you, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.360 hope to take a bit from them and add it 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.640 into your love pile. But a lot of people waste 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.240 time dealing with all the hate and blah blah blah 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.280 blah blah. And that's ridiculous because it's a waste of 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.600 your life trying to get people who hate you to 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.640 like you and ignoring people who actually. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:00.240 Like you for what you do. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.000 A lot of people spend more time worried about, oh, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:04.960 why does that person not like me? You know, and 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.600 then ignore all the people that are giving them positive 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.800 comments online. They just never respond, but they are obsessed 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.160 on the people that hate them. I think, get over it. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.040 It's bullshit. No one's always going to love. 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:17.800 You, I know. And that's the thing. You're a good 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:18.880 person to talk to about that. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.480 And you've definitely had to see a lot of negative 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.560 comments out there and choose what to connect to. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.760 But I'm quite right, some they're right. 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.600 Sometimes I have done stupid things said stupid things, done 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.040 stupid things. But when you're on here every day of 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.360 your life for decade after decade, everyone's band is fucked 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.439 up and say something stupid or do something dumb. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.400 Have you changed over the years, Like, how have you 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.439 changed since the first time, say, Australian Idol was on television. 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.800 I think that I have mature ed. 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.920 And back when I was first doing the auditions, I 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.800 think I was still trying to make it forwards my 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:56.960 own path, so I was like bulldozing myself forward, and 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.360 I think I'm going to do this regardless whether I 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.400 think it's good or not, because I think it will work. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.199 But now I think I'm more comfortable and more sort 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.520 of settled in my own my own business, my own life. 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.079 I don't really I'm not out hustling anymore. I can 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.800 pick and choose what I do, which is lucky, but 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.440 it takes a lot of luck to do that. But 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.600 I feel that I've maybe I've softened, and maybe I'm 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.839 maybe a bit more empathetic because I was pretty cut 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.040 and dry, black or white before and now I try 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.880 and see then that comes with experience, Like because I've 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:29.200 been consulting the record companies, internationally for decades, so I 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.720 know more and I know a bit more about artists. 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.040 And every artist is such a soft little flower, no 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.080 matter whether they're you know, the big rock stars or not. 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.319 They're all crying and they don't know what what's song 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.320 to pick, and it's a lot of stress. It's hard 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.240 to actually sustain being in the business than it is 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.160 to actually get a record deal in the first place. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:46.839 A lot of people think, oh, the hardest thing that 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:48.679 is get a deal. That's easy. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.560 Staying decade after decade after decade, making money, that's the 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.880 tough part, and only the best can do that. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:55.800 It's interesting, you know. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:56.959 I know a lot of people that work in the 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.400 entertainment business and people often say, what are they really 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.079 like in real life? And I quite often think to myself, 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:03.040 they're depressed. 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.000 Ah, well, you know what, have a look at comedians 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.680 like this is what surprised me. Even just comedians. 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.600 You think, oh, my god, they'd be starting I imagine living, 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:14.360 being married to that person whatever. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:18.000 And then when I've met nearly every comedian, they're like you, 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.720 and you think, I suppose that's their work is being funny, 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.120 and ah, this is loud and carrying on of course 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.040 that they're just normal people. I think people just get 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.840 a thought of what people are like. And it's the 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.920 same that happens with artists. You know, even see movie 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.880 stars getting abused by fans for a past they played 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:37.400 and I'm like. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.240 Oh, that must be just the weirdos doing that. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.840 But there's a lot of people out there, and these 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.800 different artists in different ways have impacts on people's lives, 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.920 and you know they carry that around like a wait 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.120 and I'm like, oh, I just go write another song, 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:51.120 have a little bit. 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.560 Do you think that they made the right choice of 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.439 not returning people like Dick Oh and Mark because everyone's like, oh, 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.920 they're going to bring back everyone, and they've brought back you, 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.440 which is I think a very smart move. You're just 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.360 as relevant today as you were back then, even more so. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.320 But then you know you are losing two familiar faces 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:09.960 that were synonymous with the brand. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:10.559 Yeah. 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.720 Well I thought Mark was dead, but apparently he's still alive. 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.040 So I've rung him since because I told Marsha he 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:18.560 was dead. She went, no, he'sn't easy. 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.000 He's dead, is he? And I said maybe? 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.439 And then we rang him and he was like hello Mark, 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.800 and I was like, oh, he's alive. We had a laugh, 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.640 and Marter's like, you're horrible. You still got that poison 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.199 blah blah blah. So she's hilarious. I was like, I 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:32.400 don't know, because I asked that too. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.720 When they first said hey, we're doing this, I said 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.600 what about the other judges and they said no, like 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.280 you know, we're thinking. I think they came to me first. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.040 If I'd have said no, they might have gone to 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.080 Marsha and then down the line, down the line. And 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.040 Marsha does come back to the top fifty, which is fabulous, 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:48.679 and I have a great time with her because her 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.560 and I get on very well. Yeah you know, yeah, 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.760 like it could have been reborn with all the original judges. 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.319 I just think that, you know, someone news producing it, 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.000 so they probably want to put a different spin on it. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:03.440 And I'm glad because the girls, Meghan and Amy fantastic. 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.719 I like him, I love them both and Harry, and 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.719 I like Harry doesn't like me very much, but that's 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.480 a bit prickly, but that's okay. But he's definitely worth 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.760 his while and he's got the chops to be there, 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.720 and I've learned stuff from him just with his judging. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.280 So it's good TV with him, but you know, he 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.200 doesn't have to lick my ass for him to be there, 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:22.840 thank god. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:24.320 You know. 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.440 What was a really funny story was that when Meghan 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.000 and Harry arrived in Perth, I think that's what they 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.600 first flew into. Someone at the airline reported that Meghan 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.600 and Harry had arrived in Perth, and the confusion was 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.840 that it was the royals, you know, and ah, all 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.599 of these paparazzi turned up at Perth airport thinking that 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:44.680 we're going to get a photo. 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.480 Who disappointed from thousands of dollars of photos to twenty 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.920 dollars a photo me But. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.360 Did any of that happen? Did you put two and 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:53.720 two together? And was there any jokes? 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:54.160 One? 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.400 I did that at one stage, I'm not sure where 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.000 we were that someone bought me like a little plastic 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.240 crown and a little cheap cape and I threw it 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:03.360 on and said, oh, we've got. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.200 Our own Meghan and Harry here And they were like. 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.679 Oh, because that was right around all that. They were 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.120 really on the press when we were filming the auditions. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.280 They were in the press all the time. But yeah, 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.160 very different ow Meghan and Harry are very different than those. 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.719 Two, very different. And then Amy Shark. I thought she 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.000 was a really interesting choice. I'm a huge fan of 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.400 her music. I've actually interviewed her a few times on radio, 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.520 and I found her to be so what's the word 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.120 for it, Like, there's just she's just who she is, 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.000 you know. And sometimes yes. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.520 She's not at all putting on any show. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.640 You know, she is right there on the panel exactly 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.880 the same as she is, you know, if she's if 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.800 she's just sitting in a restaurant having a chat with here, 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.600 which is really refreshing. And Amy said to me, like, 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:45.800 I don't even feel like I should be here. I said, 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.720 that'd be ridiculous. But you've done it the hard way. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.600 You've done the van tours through the States to all 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.560 the little pubs. You've really done this the traditional way, 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.240 and that's invaluable, and that you won eight Arias, and 0:14:58.320 --> 0:14:59.680 like you'd deserved to be here. 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:01.960 Kill it up and up straight and start. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.480 I think what's interesting about this format is that they're 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.800 leaving stuff in that I thought would get cut away, 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.840 that people would be nervous to see on television. And 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.960 Amy had a real conversation, has a real conversation the 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.960 first week with an artist who sounds amazing, he is phenomenal, 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:17.880 and she says, do you want to be here? 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.240 Like do you want to win Australian Idol? Because she 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:20.960 was worried. 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.840 We'd all seen headlines from Matt Corby saying, you know, 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:25.840 idle ruined his life and he needed therapy and he 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:27.880 found Jesus all the rest of it. But she was 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.920 honest with this person and I thought that was fucking 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:32.320 great television. 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:34.800 Yeah, it is. And that is what she brings to 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.720 the table. She's been there, She's felt the pain, she's 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.880 felt the rejection. She knows the negative and the positive. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.040 And I think a lot of young eys just see, 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:48.040 you know, the dream. They don't realize that there's some 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.320 uggliness that comes with this, like every job, but it's 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.440 a bit on steroids because you know, people think they 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.600 know you and they start commenting and you know, and 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.520 the narrative can be completely off how you are. 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.960 And I think that she's experienced that and she's got 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.520 through it very well. And everyone loves Amy. Who doesn't 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.520 have Amy Shark, you know, from Triple J to the 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.720 biggest pop station. They're all playing her shit, so she's 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.480 invaluable and just she's lovely that she is who she 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:15.560 is twenty four to seven. 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.880 I think the reason why this show, though, works is 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:19.960 because we are getting to see the warts at all. 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.120 We are seeing the diluted. We are seeing the best 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.640 singers in the country, and we all have this thing 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.440 inside of ourselves that thinks we can sing. I mean, 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:28.120 I can't sing. 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:29.560 I'd love to. I think that would be. 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.160 I'd be I'd love to be. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.800 I wouldn't want to be over your bloody Freddie Mercury, 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:35.880 who wouldn't want to be that? 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.440 Like, you know, you'd. 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.880 Probably be dead by now if you were singing like that, 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.760 I think that you would have finished it like. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.000 You would have been in the twenty seven class. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.480