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Speaker 1: This episode, I was lucky enough to get the King
Speaker 1: of Radio, Kyle Sandylanz to join me and talk about
Speaker 1: the reboot of Australian Idol. Kyle Sanderlanz is an Australian
Speaker 1: radio host and television personality. You would know him from
Speaker 1: the popular radio show The Kyle and Jackie Oh Show
Speaker 1: on Kiss FM. He has also hosted countless TV shows,
Speaker 1: but nothing as iconic as his turn on Australian Idol.
Speaker 1: Kyle is a polarizing character, and that's not a negative.
Speaker 1: I love him for his brutal honesty and his sense
Speaker 1: of humor, and it's interesting to hear him talk about
Speaker 1: the version he created from the original series, which finished
Speaker 1: fourteen years ago.
Speaker 2: I was sort of playing a role almost back in
Speaker 2: the old day, still me but this time around, I
Speaker 2: just feel a lot more comfortable.
Speaker 1: We will find out what he will bring to the
Speaker 1: return of Idol and what advice he has for the
Speaker 1: young contestants.
Speaker 2: I just think these kids they need as much advice
Speaker 2: and guid's as possible, and then it's up to them
Speaker 2: to pick it up and run with the ball.
Speaker 1: I will also ask about his current relationship with former
Speaker 1: hosts Dicko and Mark holden Well.
Speaker 3: I thought Mark was dead, but apparently he's still alive.
Speaker 1: We will talk about those former judges and if they
Speaker 1: were actually asked to return.
Speaker 2: I think they came to me first. If I'd have
Speaker 2: said no, they might have gone to Marsha and then
Speaker 2: down the line. Down the line.
Speaker 1: This year, Australian Idol is back, and we will find
Speaker 1: out what Kyle thought of the new set of judges,
Speaker 1: including Harry Connick JUNR Like.
Speaker 2: Harry doesn't like me very much, but that's a bit prickly,
Speaker 2: but that's okay, but he's definitely worth his while.
Speaker 1: We will also get some exclusive stories from Kyle Sanderlance
Speaker 1: and I feel like this chat is the perfect way
Speaker 1: to kick off the reboot of Australian Idol, which debuts
Speaker 1: on Channel ten this Monday, the thirtieth of January. However,
Speaker 1: we really should bring Kyle into the podcast. He's in
Speaker 1: the car and on the fly, but sometimes that's the
Speaker 1: best way to chat with him. So guys, I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoyed this episode. I promise you it's going to
Speaker 1: be a wild ride. Hi, Kyle, I'm so happy to
Speaker 1: have you on the podcast having a chat right now.
Speaker 2: You've got the driving in the traffic, but that's all
Speaker 2: technology is like.
Speaker 3: Good to see you.
Speaker 1: Well, I get to talk to you about Australian Idol
Speaker 1: and I am loving this show. I was thrilled to
Speaker 1: see that you came back for the format. Not only
Speaker 1: was show a favorite of mine, but I thought that
Speaker 1: you were super entertaining when you joined the original.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you mate.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, to tell you the truth, I was
Speaker 2: so nervous because I used to watch the show and
Speaker 2: then when Dicko left. Remember Dicko left because he thought
Speaker 2: he could do any show, and he was like he
Speaker 2: was bigger than everything, and off he went to do
Speaker 2: some dud some cooking show that failed. Anyway. He eventually
Speaker 2: came back. But when I first went there and sat
Speaker 2: in the chair, you know they brought me in. I
Speaker 2: knew for a couple of reasons, because I was a
Speaker 2: bit lippy like Dinko was, and also that I came
Speaker 2: from a different angle from the commercial side of the
Speaker 2: music business, where we're pushing the music out on the
Speaker 2: radio or Channel V or MTV or.
Speaker 3: Whatever it was of the day.
Speaker 2: But I was very nervous and I was sort of
Speaker 2: playing a role almost back in the old day, still me,
Speaker 2: but this time around, I just feel a lot more
Speaker 2: comfortable and pretty much charged.
Speaker 3: So it's fun, it's relaxing.
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, you know, Dicko left to go and do Survivor,
Speaker 1: and then now you're up against Survivor, so like this
Speaker 1: is very serendipitous.
Speaker 2: Well, Jackie, who I worked with on the radio, sheesus
Speaker 2: of hands. So I said, what are you going to
Speaker 2: be doing?
Speaker 3: Because you know, we.
Speaker 2: All love a bit of maths and we all love
Speaker 2: Survivor And now Idol's back, and I was like, where's
Speaker 2: your where are you going? I'm one hundred percent she
Speaker 2: wants the nostalgia of Idol like she misses, she misses it.
Speaker 1: Did you ever think that you would come back and
Speaker 1: do this show again? I mean, you know there was
Speaker 1: There's been fourteen years since we last saw it. Did
Speaker 1: you ever think you'd come back and do it again?
Speaker 3: Well, after I got fired, I thought, that's it to
Speaker 3: me and I loved that show.
Speaker 2: I was spewing. I went on to do X Factor
Speaker 2: in Australia's Got Talent and stuff like that, but they
Speaker 2: were never the same as Idol. Like Idols the Juggernau.
Speaker 2: Idol is the big one that's world makes worldwide stars
Speaker 2: like and so I tried to sort of patch the
Speaker 2: wound of that firing, you know, by doing the other shows,
Speaker 2: but it was never the same. And I've done a
Speaker 2: few TV shows since over the years, but nothing gave
Speaker 2: me the same sort of scratch that that thing did.
Speaker 2: So when Channel seven came knocking and they were like,
Speaker 2: what are we going to do to get back on TV?
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh god, I'm being romance here.
Speaker 2: I don't really want I said nothing. I'd do idol.
Speaker 2: That's about it. That's all we're here to talk about.
Speaker 1: So there was a few non negotiables for me as
Speaker 1: an audience, and I'm pleased to say that the format.
Speaker 4: Is very true to the original.
Speaker 1: Did you offer any notes before coming back when they
Speaker 1: were willing you to come back and do the show.
Speaker 2: There was a few things that were a bit disappointing
Speaker 2: the first round because when you do it year after year,
Speaker 2: you know, they could never sing an original song or
Speaker 2: there was no accompaniment.
Speaker 3: There was no piano or guitar or anything.
Speaker 2: And you know, some some people need that bit of magic,
Speaker 2: you know, to show their true skill. So there was that,
Speaker 2: and there was like even in my mind when I
Speaker 2: was first auditioning, I was like, if you ain't Britney Spears,
Speaker 2: I wasn't interested, you know, But music, the artists themselves
Speaker 2: have evolved and like you can be anyone in any shape, size,
Speaker 2: any age, which is their new thing, and be super
Speaker 2: successful so I think we've all grown up as listeners
Speaker 2: and purchases of music, and also me on the panel,
Speaker 2: I'm looking for something different. I'm looking for someone who
Speaker 2: can sustain this has career, not just you know, has
Speaker 2: a one trick pony song that they can, you know,
Speaker 2: sound good at.
Speaker 3: You've got to look a little bit deeper than just
Speaker 3: what they show you.
Speaker 1: Well, I love how honest you while with these contestants
Speaker 1: on the show. I mean that was what I was
Speaker 1: nervous about. I was like, twenty twenty three, we all
Speaker 1: have to be so careful about what we say to people. However,
Speaker 1: you give them some really great tough love on this show,
Speaker 1: which is what you need if you're going to survive
Speaker 1: in this industry. But I've always wanted to know where
Speaker 1: did you learn that tough love from?
Speaker 2: And honestly, I was just I was just a hustler
Speaker 2: as a kid because I was sort of on my
Speaker 2: own early and it was like make or break, and
Speaker 2: you know, I felt every mistake. If I made a mistake,
Speaker 2: I didn't eat, or I didn't have anywhere to live,
Speaker 2: or I didn't have anywhere to sleep.
Speaker 3: So I just learned.
Speaker 2: Early and I knew that you can't treat everyone exactly
Speaker 2: the same. You know, some people you can wrestle with,
Speaker 2: and some people will never be able to be wrestled with.
Speaker 2: They can only respond through them through a hug. So
Speaker 2: you're almost going to be a chameleon. You can't just
Speaker 2: be the same harsh person over and over, because what
Speaker 2: you want is your message to connect with the person,
Speaker 2: or your advice to sink in, whether they use it
Speaker 2: or not. Like you know, I've had a lot of
Speaker 2: advice from a lot of different people. Some I take
Speaker 2: it in, I inhale it and other stuff and think, ah,
Speaker 2: that might work for you, but that's not really for me.
Speaker 2: So I just think these kids they need as much
Speaker 2: advice and guidance as possible and then it's up to
Speaker 2: them to pick it up and run with the ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you need to have that thicker skin. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's one of the one of those industries where it's
Speaker 1: basically impossible. And if they're going to be on television
Speaker 1: and getting the critiques from the people on Twitter and
Speaker 1: on Instagram, you know they've got they've got to know.
Speaker 2: It's no good because some of these people can they
Speaker 2: can be absolutely crushed by one person saying some horrible
Speaker 2: comment online. I was like, you know, I told a
Speaker 2: few of them, you know, name someone that you think
Speaker 2: everyone would love, and they were like, oh, you know, Jesus,
Speaker 2: Ronald McDonald and Beyonce. Everyone loves them, no one would
Speaker 2: hate them. And then I showed them They've got actual,
Speaker 2: dedicated websites of hate out there floating around online too, Jesus,
Speaker 2: Beyonce and Ronald McDonald. So I was like, there is
Speaker 2: no one immune from someone, not like. All you can
Speaker 2: do is do your best, stand by who you are
Speaker 2: and what you believe in, and put your best foot
Speaker 2: forward and then be prepared to take the negatives with
Speaker 2: the positives.
Speaker 1: I think if you're on television or if you're in
Speaker 1: the media, what people need to realize is that there's
Speaker 1: as many people out there that loves you that hates you,
Speaker 1: because if you have that currency that resonates with an audience,
Speaker 1: you are polarizing, you are engaging people fascinated, and there's
Speaker 1: going to be two sides of that coin, always.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, and you actually need to have both to
Speaker 2: be big enough to be successful and make an earning
Speaker 2: and living out of this. You know, you can only
Speaker 2: I said, there's three groups of people. People who love you,
Speaker 2: people who hate you, and people who could care less.
Speaker 3: And don't even know your existence.
Speaker 2: Service Only the people that like you and hope to take,
Speaker 2: you know, from the people who don't know anything about you,
Speaker 2: hope to take a bit from them and add it
Speaker 2: into your love pile. But a lot of people waste
Speaker 2: time dealing with all the hate and blah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. And that's ridiculous because it's a waste of
Speaker 2: your life trying to get people who hate you to
Speaker 2: like you and ignoring people who actually.
Speaker 3: Like you for what you do.
Speaker 2: A lot of people spend more time worried about, oh,
Speaker 2: why does that person not like me? You know, and
Speaker 2: then ignore all the people that are giving them positive
Speaker 2: comments online. They just never respond, but they are obsessed
Speaker 2: on the people that hate them. I think, get over it.
Speaker 2: It's bullshit. No one's always going to love.
Speaker 4: You, I know. And that's the thing. You're a good
Speaker 4: person to talk to about that.
Speaker 1: And you've definitely had to see a lot of negative
Speaker 1: comments out there and choose what to connect to.
Speaker 3: But I'm quite right, some they're right.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I have done stupid things said stupid things, done
Speaker 2: stupid things. But when you're on here every day of
Speaker 2: your life for decade after decade, everyone's band is fucked
Speaker 2: up and say something stupid or do something dumb.
Speaker 4: Have you changed over the years, Like, how have you
Speaker 4: changed since the first time, say, Australian Idol was on television.
Speaker 3: I think that I have mature ed.
Speaker 2: And back when I was first doing the auditions, I
Speaker 2: think I was still trying to make it forwards my
Speaker 2: own path, so I was like bulldozing myself forward, and
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to do this regardless whether I
Speaker 2: think it's good or not, because I think it will work.
Speaker 2: But now I think I'm more comfortable and more sort
Speaker 2: of settled in my own my own business, my own life.
Speaker 2: I don't really I'm not out hustling anymore. I can
Speaker 2: pick and choose what I do, which is lucky, but
Speaker 2: it takes a lot of luck to do that. But
Speaker 2: I feel that I've maybe I've softened, and maybe I'm
Speaker 2: maybe a bit more empathetic because I was pretty cut
Speaker 2: and dry, black or white before and now I try
Speaker 2: and see then that comes with experience, Like because I've
Speaker 2: been consulting the record companies, internationally for decades, so I
Speaker 2: know more and I know a bit more about artists.
Speaker 2: And every artist is such a soft little flower, no
Speaker 2: matter whether they're you know, the big rock stars or not.
Speaker 2: They're all crying and they don't know what what's song
Speaker 2: to pick, and it's a lot of stress. It's hard
Speaker 2: to actually sustain being in the business than it is
Speaker 2: to actually get a record deal in the first place.
Speaker 3: A lot of people think, oh, the hardest thing that
Speaker 3: is get a deal. That's easy.
Speaker 2: Staying decade after decade after decade, making money, that's the
Speaker 2: tough part, and only the best can do that.
Speaker 4: It's interesting, you know.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people that work in the
Speaker 1: entertainment business and people often say, what are they really
Speaker 1: like in real life? And I quite often think to myself,
Speaker 1: they're depressed.
Speaker 3: Ah, well, you know what, have a look at comedians
Speaker 3: like this is what surprised me. Even just comedians.
Speaker 5: You think, oh, my god, they'd be starting I imagine living,
Speaker 5: being married to that person whatever.
Speaker 2: And then when I've met nearly every comedian, they're like you,
Speaker 2: and you think, I suppose that's their work is being funny,
Speaker 2: and ah, this is loud and carrying on of course
Speaker 2: that they're just normal people. I think people just get
Speaker 2: a thought of what people are like. And it's the
Speaker 2: same that happens with artists. You know, even see movie
Speaker 2: stars getting abused by fans for a past they played
Speaker 2: and I'm like.
Speaker 3: Oh, that must be just the weirdos doing that.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of people out there, and these
Speaker 2: different artists in different ways have impacts on people's lives,
Speaker 2: and you know they carry that around like a wait
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, I just go write another song,
Speaker 2: have a little bit.
Speaker 1: Do you think that they made the right choice of
Speaker 1: not returning people like Dick Oh and Mark because everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're going to bring back everyone, and they've brought back you,
Speaker 1: which is I think a very smart move. You're just
Speaker 1: as relevant today as you were back then, even more so.
Speaker 1: But then you know you are losing two familiar faces
Speaker 1: that were synonymous with the brand.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well I thought Mark was dead, but apparently he's still alive.
Speaker 2: So I've rung him since because I told Marsha he
Speaker 2: was dead. She went, no, he'sn't easy.
Speaker 3: He's dead, is he? And I said maybe?
Speaker 5: And then we rang him and he was like hello Mark,
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, he's alive. We had a laugh,
Speaker 5: and Marter's like, you're horrible. You still got that poison
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. So she's hilarious. I was like, I
Speaker 5: don't know, because I asked that too.
Speaker 2: When they first said hey, we're doing this, I said
Speaker 2: what about the other judges and they said no, like
Speaker 2: you know, we're thinking. I think they came to me first.
Speaker 2: If I'd have said no, they might have gone to
Speaker 2: Marsha and then down the line, down the line. And
Speaker 2: Marsha does come back to the top fifty, which is fabulous,
Speaker 2: and I have a great time with her because her
Speaker 2: and I get on very well. Yeah you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: like it could have been reborn with all the original judges.
Speaker 2: I just think that, you know, someone news producing it,
Speaker 2: so they probably want to put a different spin on it.
Speaker 2: And I'm glad because the girls, Meghan and Amy fantastic.
Speaker 2: I like him, I love them both and Harry, and
Speaker 2: I like Harry doesn't like me very much, but that's
Speaker 2: a bit prickly, but that's okay. But he's definitely worth
Speaker 2: his while and he's got the chops to be there,
Speaker 2: and I've learned stuff from him just with his judging.
Speaker 2: So it's good TV with him, but you know, he
Speaker 2: doesn't have to lick my ass for him to be there,
Speaker 2: thank god.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: What was a really funny story was that when Meghan
Speaker 1: and Harry arrived in Perth, I think that's what they
Speaker 1: first flew into. Someone at the airline reported that Meghan
Speaker 1: and Harry had arrived in Perth, and the confusion was
Speaker 1: that it was the royals, you know, and ah, all
Speaker 1: of these paparazzi turned up at Perth airport thinking that
Speaker 1: we're going to get a photo.
Speaker 2: Who disappointed from thousands of dollars of photos to twenty
Speaker 2: dollars a photo me But.
Speaker 1: Did any of that happen? Did you put two and
Speaker 1: two together? And was there any jokes?
Speaker 4: One?
Speaker 2: I did that at one stage, I'm not sure where
Speaker 2: we were that someone bought me like a little plastic
Speaker 2: crown and a little cheap cape and I threw it
Speaker 2: on and said, oh, we've got.
Speaker 3: Our own Meghan and Harry here And they were like.
Speaker 2: Oh, because that was right around all that. They were
Speaker 2: really on the press when we were filming the auditions.
Speaker 2: They were in the press all the time. But yeah,
Speaker 2: very different ow Meghan and Harry are very different than those.
Speaker 1: Two, very different. And then Amy Shark. I thought she
Speaker 1: was a really interesting choice. I'm a huge fan of
Speaker 1: her music. I've actually interviewed her a few times on radio,
Speaker 1: and I found her to be so what's the word
Speaker 1: for it, Like, there's just she's just who she is,
Speaker 1: you know. And sometimes yes.
Speaker 3: She's not at all putting on any show.
Speaker 2: You know, she is right there on the panel exactly
Speaker 2: the same as she is, you know, if she's if
Speaker 2: she's just sitting in a restaurant having a chat with here,
Speaker 2: which is really refreshing. And Amy said to me, like,
Speaker 2: I don't even feel like I should be here. I said,
Speaker 2: that'd be ridiculous. But you've done it the hard way.
Speaker 2: You've done the van tours through the States to all
Speaker 2: the little pubs. You've really done this the traditional way,
Speaker 2: and that's invaluable, and that you won eight Arias, and
Speaker 2: like you'd deserved to be here.
Speaker 3: Kill it up and up straight and start.
Speaker 1: I think what's interesting about this format is that they're
Speaker 1: leaving stuff in that I thought would get cut away,
Speaker 1: that people would be nervous to see on television. And
Speaker 1: Amy had a real conversation, has a real conversation the
Speaker 1: first week with an artist who sounds amazing, he is phenomenal,
Speaker 1: and she says, do you want to be here?
Speaker 4: Like do you want to win Australian Idol? Because she
Speaker 4: was worried.
Speaker 1: We'd all seen headlines from Matt Corby saying, you know,
Speaker 1: idle ruined his life and he needed therapy and he
Speaker 1: found Jesus all the rest of it. But she was
Speaker 1: honest with this person and I thought that was fucking
Speaker 1: great television.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. And that is what she brings to
Speaker 3: the table. She's been there, She's felt the pain, she's
Speaker 3: felt the rejection. She knows the negative and the positive.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of young eys just see,
Speaker 3: you know, the dream. They don't realize that there's some
Speaker 3: uggliness that comes with this, like every job, but it's
Speaker 3: a bit on steroids because you know, people think they
Speaker 3: know you and they start commenting and you know, and
Speaker 3: the narrative can be completely off how you are.
Speaker 2: And I think that she's experienced that and she's got
Speaker 2: through it very well. And everyone loves Amy. Who doesn't
Speaker 2: have Amy Shark, you know, from Triple J to the
Speaker 2: biggest pop station. They're all playing her shit, so she's
Speaker 2: invaluable and just she's lovely that she is who she
Speaker 2: is twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1: I think the reason why this show, though, works is
Speaker 1: because we are getting to see the warts at all.
Speaker 1: We are seeing the diluted. We are seeing the best
Speaker 1: singers in the country, and we all have this thing
Speaker 1: inside of ourselves that thinks we can sing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't sing.
Speaker 4: I'd love to. I think that would be.
Speaker 3: I'd be I'd love to be.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be over your bloody Freddie Mercury,
Speaker 2: who wouldn't want to be that?
Speaker 3: Like, you know, you'd.
Speaker 1: Probably be dead by now if you were singing like that,
Speaker 1: I think that you would have finished it like.
Speaker 4: You would have been in the twenty seven class.
Speaker 3: I'd be in the ground dead for at least ten years.
Speaker 1: But I think that's the commodity of ivital. I think
Speaker 1: that we can watch people. We all think we can sing,
Speaker 1: we all think we can get up there and we
Speaker 1: can do it, and we can't. And this show's happy
Speaker 1: to show that. Like The Voice and other shows, they're
Speaker 1: only showing the best of the best, and they're all
Speaker 1: highly edited. And I think even some of the voices
Speaker 1: have been stylized or put an auto tune through it.
Speaker 2: Where this I wouldn't be surprised what guy has done
Speaker 2: to make tell anything can be.
Speaker 3: But this is raw.
Speaker 2: And the good thing is we have pianos and we
Speaker 2: have guitars on standby if that's what someone needs.
Speaker 3: So it made it easier to audition, to show your best.
Speaker 2: But even on your like even some of these people
Speaker 2: that a proper singers can have.
Speaker 3: A bad, bad day and a bad audition. You know,
Speaker 3: it's just the lack of the drawer.
Speaker 2: And as you said, it is just like it is
Speaker 2: in everyday life show bus stuff.
Speaker 1: I have to say before you go as well, congratulations
Speaker 1: on your radio show. You know, I've been in your
Speaker 1: audience for as long as you've been in the media,
Speaker 1: and you've always been someone I've looked up to. And
Speaker 1: I think that I think this show like even moving
Speaker 1: radio stations and making the contents as rich and as
Speaker 1: interactive as you guys have both been able to do
Speaker 1: for such a long time. It's interesting to me though,
Speaker 1: that you know the format of you two actually getting
Speaker 1: along and being friends and having great chmistry and doing
Speaker 1: what you want to do is still not being done
Speaker 1: by any other radio show. I feel in the country,
Speaker 1: they're quick to play like comedians.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they still got this mentality of we need that
Speaker 6: that reality show, but you don't like I'm not against
Speaker 6: the reality show of people getting on like I know
Speaker 6: there was a lot of people bit like anyone with
Speaker 6: a profile is good.
Speaker 2: But the friendship and the chemistry is the part that
Speaker 2: is hard, and sometimes you can't do that on a
Speaker 2: chart like it's It's just lucky that JACKI and I
Speaker 2: be became very friendly and I was a fan of
Speaker 2: hers bride a starting with her, so I knew all
Speaker 2: about her and she just knew I was some clown
Speaker 2: from Brisbane dressed in Colorado that didn't know any of
Speaker 2: the current songs on the Hot thirty. But the friendship
Speaker 2: is important and that is the main key to the
Speaker 2: success over the years.
Speaker 1: I feel absolutely you know I would listen to your show.
Speaker 1: I was working for a Southern Cross Hysteria breakfast show
Speaker 1: for three years in Queensland and I would leave the
Speaker 1: show in the in the morning after I'd do it. It
Speaker 1: was four and a half hours. We did it based
Speaker 1: five days a week. Even you know, you know OB's
Speaker 1: on a fucking Sunday. Yeah, I would leave the show
Speaker 1: and listen to your whole show in the podcast format
Speaker 1: when i'd leave, and then in the afternoon, I'd get
Speaker 1: a phone call from the PD or the CD or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they would tell me all the things that I
Speaker 1: did wrong on the show. And the funny thing was
Speaker 1: all the things they told me not to do, you
Speaker 1: both did every day.
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous because they're like, and then I know that
Speaker 2: that's sort of I did exactly the same, made like
Speaker 2: I just balked against I was rolling the dice. Really
Speaker 2: when like when the program directors would scream at me
Speaker 2: every day, you don't do this, you only talk about
Speaker 2: one thing at a time. You don't say that, you
Speaker 2: start that, you get the news on the hour, and
Speaker 2: I just went, I think that's really that important. So
Speaker 2: I gambled it. I could have screwed this whole thing up,
Speaker 2: but luckily worked out.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Well, you defy all of the people in that industry
Speaker 1: and then still manage to get the ratings. It's just
Speaker 1: the mind boggles that they haven't looked at that recipe
Speaker 1: and have been able to replicate it in some way
Speaker 1: like no one's come close. So is there anyone that
Speaker 1: you think though that could ever Is there anyone in
Speaker 1: your mind that you think, hopefully they don't think of
Speaker 1: this person doing breakfast radio and going up against me.
Speaker 2: There's no one that I'm really worried about. There's some
Speaker 2: young people out there that I think have the ability
Speaker 2: and the showmanship to turn themselves into something. There's no
Speaker 2: one out there that I think, Oh, I'm glad they
Speaker 2: haven't got that person. I feel like if they we're
Speaker 2: confident with their own shit. But they've got the great
Speaker 2: talent out there. But I don't think our listeners would
Speaker 2: ever leave unless something, you know, catastrophic happens.
Speaker 1: I've listened to I mean, I've listened to you guys
Speaker 1: for so many years. And Howard Stern I was listening
Speaker 1: to from a teenager. I think I was fourteen listening
Speaker 1: to that show us to download it like people downloaded
Speaker 1: music on nap staff Like, I've just been obsessed with radio.
Speaker 4: My whole my whole life.
Speaker 1: And you know, he's very similar and it is quite
Speaker 1: similar to your style at times, but you know, he
Speaker 1: also has that unbelievable cut through. I think of that
Speaker 1: Chatfield had a relationship like a best friend kind of
Speaker 1: that relationship that you have with Jackie.
Speaker 2: I think Abby is great, by the way, Like I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people have been trying to stir
Speaker 2: up something between Abby and I think even Abby's trying
Speaker 2: to stir sit up every now and then for me.
Speaker 3: To buy it.
Speaker 2: But I actually think she's actually got something. She just
Speaker 2: needs to just calm the farm every now and then.
Speaker 2: You don't have to fly the flag at every single
Speaker 2: thing that shows up.
Speaker 3: But I remember what that was like.
Speaker 2: I was that age, and I was that hungry and
Speaker 2: that opinionated, and fuck what everyone else thinks, and you
Speaker 2: know I know better than everyone else. So I get
Speaker 2: I get her thing, and she could that she could
Speaker 2: turn to something given the rights environment, and it's a
Speaker 2: survival thing for you know, some of these young especially
Speaker 2: these young out there influences not just Abs, but you
Speaker 2: know we've got you know, Laura and Brittany, and we've
Speaker 2: got like there's many many young powerful women out there
Speaker 2: chatting and saying their peace, which is great. It's just
Speaker 2: this business is you can be there one minute, and
Speaker 2: you can be you can you can shoot yourself in
Speaker 2: the foot the next Many bullet holes in my own feet.
Speaker 2: So it's just balancing and then realizing you don't have
Speaker 2: to be juggling every ball that's been thrown out there,
Speaker 2: you know, especially if you want to do it for
Speaker 2: a long long time, because it's good, good money.
Speaker 3: If you do it well, you can you can make.
Speaker 2: A lot of You can make more money than their
Speaker 2: brain shurgeon doing this shit and you're just talking shit.
Speaker 3: Got to be the right ingredients.
Speaker 1: It's still very hard. I saw Karl Stepanovic last week
Speaker 1: at an event and I was chatting to him. You know,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of media speculation about, you know,
Speaker 1: him being in this fight with you know, I'm gay,
Speaker 1: so sports not interesting to me.
Speaker 4: So some some cricketer Sky is that guy's name, just
Speaker 4: for the clarky there you go.
Speaker 1: And I just was like I just said to him,
Speaker 1: I was like, people like you for being real and
Speaker 1: they don't mind you being a little bit rough and
Speaker 1: involved in this sort of stuff. It's not ideal, but
Speaker 1: I think it shows us that you are a real person,
Speaker 1: and that's totally that's great for us to see. I
Speaker 1: don't think it is something for him to be that,
Speaker 1: you know, worried about no.
Speaker 2: No, I just I just think everyone involved in that
Speaker 2: situation and was you know, like there's friends, there's girlfriends,
Speaker 2: as wives, as sisters, there's like long life friendships, you know,
Speaker 2: like no one like it's like you know that party
Speaker 2: we've all been to, where we've all done someone's been
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 3: This just happens to be out in the press. And
Speaker 3: I made it quite clear.
Speaker 2: I said, imagine the worst fight you've ever had with
Speaker 2: any of your friends or your partner being filmed and
Speaker 2: put in the newspaper. We'd all die horrible. No one
Speaker 2: wants that. So it's just like, I think everyone knew
Speaker 2: it was an ugly situation, and everyone's just happy that
Speaker 2: it's sort of peetered out and dribbled off and everyone's
Speaker 2: got their own opinions. It'll be just one of those
Speaker 2: things we barely remember down the track.
Speaker 4: It's relatable content.
Speaker 1: Again, you know, I don't think it's going to be
Speaker 1: damaging for him because we've all been as you said,
Speaker 1: we've all been in those situations.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm going to let you go. I just
Speaker 4: want to say thank you for coming on.
Speaker 1: Something I ask everyone who joins the podcast is this
Speaker 1: last question, which is what is something from behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: something that we won't see, kind of like a behind
Speaker 1: the scenes secret from filming Australian idol.
Speaker 3: Behind the scenes secrets. There's no this isn't a secret.
Speaker 2: But like and when we were in Perth, because I
Speaker 2: had to get up and do the radio show at
Speaker 2: three am live back to Sydney at six, I insisted
Speaker 2: on getting the presidential suite with a wrap around balcony.
Speaker 2: And then I said to Amy, said to me at
Speaker 2: some stage and where all the judges were together.
Speaker 3: She goes, how are you finding it having to go
Speaker 3: all the way downstairs and outside the smoke And I went,
Speaker 3: I'm just smoking on the balcony. And they all gave
Speaker 3: each other that. They all gave each other.
Speaker 2: The grace team side eye what. She goes, what balcony?
Speaker 2: We didn't have balconies.
Speaker 3: I was ah, and then ah, that could cast some ship.
Speaker 2: Oh well yeah, so I'm doing two jobs at once,
Speaker 2: so you know. And I asked for things they may
Speaker 2: not ask. They might be happy with the standard threat.
Speaker 4: She's probably in a box. She's at a cardboard box downstairs.
Speaker 3: But none of them had balcony. It's only me. There
Speaker 3: was only one doing with the balcony and I had
Speaker 3: it first and best dressed.
Speaker 4: Have you signed on for more seasons?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 4: If you have, you got like a three year deal,
Speaker 4: are going to be doing.
Speaker 2: And there's there's years of options, but you know this
Speaker 2: one has to work, no doubt. You know that'll figure
Speaker 2: it out. But they can say no and I can
Speaker 2: say no in any stage. But if it works then
Speaker 2: and I loved doing it. It was it was a
Speaker 2: real pleasure this year. I hope you know it runs
Speaker 2: from other ten years.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I really do as well. I think it will.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, I was so nervous about this coming back.
Speaker 1: We saw other very tried and tested shows to be
Speaker 1: brought back that have not done well, and this has
Speaker 1: stayed very true to its ingredients. And I think audiences
Speaker 1: are going to love it. When the live episode starts,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you you're going to bust a million.
Speaker 2: So I hope that because there's different TV because people
Speaker 2: watch it live then they recorded and other Fox must
Speaker 2: want to record everything.
Speaker 3: Fox help, so go on to the days you have
Speaker 3: to rush home and watch it live.
Speaker 2: But this is the sort of show you want to
Speaker 2: watch live because people are talking on social media about it.
Speaker 3: It's sort of like if you.
Speaker 2: Record it, you know, record maps and there survivor, because
Speaker 2: you don't have to be live watching that, but you
Speaker 2: want to be involved.
Speaker 3: When it happens.
Speaker 4: It's a sense time sensitive that he called.
Speaker 2: The others wats mine lit.
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you both, Bruno as well,
Speaker 1: who's there. I just want to say thank you for
Speaker 1: coming and having this time. It's very generous of the
Speaker 1: two of you.
Speaker 4: Bruno.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I was at a shop
Speaker 1: the other day and people came up to me and
Speaker 1: were like, I saw you on this internet show a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and they were like, what's Bruno
Speaker 1: really like?
Speaker 4: And they were obsessed with you.
Speaker 1: I think you were on like an episode a week
Speaker 1: on that, but the people are still out there talking
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: I can tell you what he's like. He's a freaking lunatic.
Speaker 2: He's exactly what you see. Look at what he's wearing.
Speaker 2: This is this is my representative list shorts.
Speaker 3: I think these are underpants.
Speaker 4: They're underpants.
Speaker 3: They're underpants. That was very good for me. He can
Speaker 3: wear whatever he wants.
Speaker 1: Well, seriously, it was such an honor and so amazing
Speaker 1: to be able to have this chat with you. Good
Speaker 1: luck with Australian Idol and good luck with the radio show.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you need it, but I'll
Speaker 1: be in your audience.
Speaker 3: Thank you so I appreciate that. I'll look forward to
Speaker 3: talk to me again